Anybody Mad at Clem?
Here's the deal: Lee has warned and told Clem this guy is dangerous, her parents are gone, and not to run off. She's being doing it anyway all season and now she's kidnapped.
I think she gets now Lee was right.
Except now Lee is bitten looking for her and is going to die. The sickness comes on fast and hits hard. Duck died in less than 24 hours. Lee is going to spend his last moments looking for Clem (for as long as he has the strength).
Love or not, how can Lee not be a little resentful?
Even if they're reunited, and Lee isn't upset, this will haunt Clem the rest of her life. The older she gets the more she'll realize how foolish she's been and the more it will hurt.
I think she gets now Lee was right.
Except now Lee is bitten looking for her and is going to die. The sickness comes on fast and hits hard. Duck died in less than 24 hours. Lee is going to spend his last moments looking for Clem (for as long as he has the strength).
Love or not, how can Lee not be a little resentful?
Even if they're reunited, and Lee isn't upset, this will haunt Clem the rest of her life. The older she gets the more she'll realize how foolish she's been and the more it will hurt.
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"No"
Well, your Lee is dying b/c Clem ran off again so... Yeah, good luck with that. Maybe as a walker.
still time to kill your Lee. Were the same person.
We'll everybody has got to die one day, no sense in getting mad over it, that won't change a thing. Lee was an awesome character though, he will be missed.
I mean yeah she cares about lee and all and listens to him, but at the end of the day those are her parents and she needs closure at some point, so some creeper reaching out to her with "information" on her parents would be pretty hard to just pass up i'd imagine.
Hmm... No, I'm pretty sure you're Lee is going to die before he gets the chance.
That's human nature. Who doesn't get mad while dying? Have never witnessed people dying? It's part of the process. If you're not mad you're going to day you must have hated life. Everything you love will be gone and there's so much you'll never get to do.
Lee was going to jail before this for killing a man. He wants to redeem himself by saving clem.
Yes. Easily, in fact. First, she doesn't listen. She has been doing things on her own all season. She hid the fact a guy has been communicating with her. She opened the door to the train station in ep 3. She ran away to the backyard. The girl is hard headed.
Second, her parents are most likely dead. Finding them is like looking for a piece of hay in a needle stack. Not only is there a very small chance of finding them, especially alive, it is super dangerous to look. Closure? She needs to think about living, not sentimental suicide missions.
Third, I get the appeal, especially to one so young. Maybe that's on Lee for not doing more. He should have taken the battery out of the walkie-talkie. He could have stressed how dangerous it was more. Something. Perhaps he let love cloud his judgement.
Ok, you just made that up.
I bet.
Not everybody gets mad at death, don't assume things my dear. You know what they say about assuming? People have different perspectives.
The nihilism of the story is getting a bit much....
Wow. This is wrong on so many levels.
I'm not mad at clem but I honestly would have myself live then her. But that ain't happening.
I agree. I would gladly forfeit my life to save hers or anybody elses.
No, Itsmearmani is right. Granted, I've only witnessed one death in my life but it was enough to know that not everybody responds with anger. People handle things differently, including death.
Especially during a zombie apocalypse.
So, if you slept with somebody with HIV/AIDS and they knew they had it and didn't tell you, and you contracted the virus, you wouldn't be mad?
If you knew you were going to die tomorrow for whatever reason you wouldn't be mad?
Get real.
I think you misread what he wrote. More importantly, sacrificing yourself is different than having death thrust upon you. There is no noble sacrifice in Lee's death. It's just terrible timing., like getting hit by a bus.
Does that seem that impossible to you? Why must everyone[\i] be mad at their time of death?
Also finding out someone infected you with HIV/AIDS and responding with anger to that, isn't the same as responding to anger when facing your death.
First, I'm not claiming a person is always mad, but anger at some point for some length is expected.
Second, the HIV/AIDS example is relevant b/c it's an infection, and there's a lot of information about it, but it's an analogy not worth dwelling on or arguing about. All analogies fail at some point. Let's focus on the bigger point.
So your point is that people who know they've gotten a death sentence, will at some point feel anger?
Because I think I agree with that.
The way I read your posts, it sounded like you meant that whenever anyone - ever - was about to die, they'd just get really angry and then die...
If that's what you mean, then I still disagree.
But yeah, the first thing, I think is valid enough.
Hopefully now after Lee's death it will forever be a burden on her and she will learn that if she disobeys somebodies instructions people will die!!
That's the operational word.
Outside of a scam or a wierd sex fetish people don't tend to get kidnapped willingly. Hardly her fault for someone hopping over the backyard fence and kidnapping her.
In the end she's just a kid who doesn't learn. Maybe this is what it takes for her to realize how unsafe the world is. (If she even lives.). Im more upset when I reached out to hug her in the office she denied me
Mad that i'm bit,mad that clems gone, but not mad she left. Maybe if she was some teenage brat I was taking care off.
You're the one who said she was kidnapped. Here's the quote in it's entirety.
You didn't say "and now she's gone and run off with some guy.". The word kidnap has a very specific meaning.
As for evidence of her being kidnapped, both her hat and the walkie talkie had been dropped. this implies to me that she was either struggling or was unconscious and being carried away in haste. If she left willingly those wouldn't have been so carelessly strewn about. If the guy wanted to leave the walkie talkie somewhere he knew it'd be found he'd have left it sitting at the back door.
Obviously she's kidnapped. Haven't you ever seen how these things happen? "Oh, kid, I have some candy! Just come with me." In this case it's parents, but surprise surprise! They're kidnapped. She can go willingly and still be kidnapped.
The point is she disobeyed and went outside and now she's in trouble. You can't deny that. And now you're going to die b/c of it.
You would think someone would always be watching the one door, but hey.
Clementine of course, shes pretty much the reason of living.
There were four adults and one teenager in that house, none of them bothered to watch her in the slightest. Lee himself sat his lazy arse down and went to sleep. As adults they hold more responsibility to allowing her to be kidnapped than she did. They knew the situation and chose to not bother keeping an eye on her anyways.
In the end though, the only real person to blame, the one you should be angry at, the one Lee seemed angry at, is the kidnapper.
Seriously, what is it with some of the people here constantly blaming and getting angry at the victims in this game?
I'm mad at the Kidnapper and all the Adults, I mean really no one is watching the door at all.
Chuck was right this group is going to die, with the way they handle things.
HOW AFTER SAVING YOUR LIFE COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME, SCUMBAG STEVE?!
I can agree with you on this. Ultimately, the kidnapper is to blame. It still doesn't mean she didn't do something incredibly stupid and defiant that had grave consequences.
It's like the boy that cried wolf. You can blame the wolf at the end of the day, and it deserves all the blame, but you'd be missing the moral of the story.