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Thadeum
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Spoiler is when you tell the story elements to people who did not play the game or did not finish it.
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I took a look at TELLTALE .ttarch game files, which are the game data archives I extracted with third party obscure MS-DOS tools, and I found some stuff...
IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE SPOILED ABOUT ANYTHING STOP NOW!!!
*** END OF WARNING ***
There are spoilers and there are OVER-spoilers.
Spoiler is when you tell the story elements to people who did not play the game or did not finish it.
OVER-spoiler is when you spoil the story to people who FINISHED IT.
THIS IS OVER-SPOILER
I took a look at TELLTALE .ttarch game files, which are the game data archives I extracted with third party obscure MS-DOS tools, and I found some stuff...
IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE SPOILED ABOUT ANYTHING STOP NOW!!!
*** END OF WARNING ***
Updates:
- you should read all the pages of this thread to dig into the most plausible stories of ep. 5
- The mystery man at the burial now has a name! AND A FACE!
- Included info on a mysterious Jeff zombie
- Now with pictures included in this thread! Look further!
- I let the names of the people who were unnamed in Episode 4, so you can now who they were. Learn more about the attic kid, Vernon's group and the Crawford leader!
Spoilers & Insights:
So, basically, I found some skeleton and 3D Mesh files wearing the name of characters or elements of the game...
I found names I never met in the game. They are:
- Fivel. The 3D mesh body files for this guy point out he has his head either shot or smashed. The texture file designate the kid in the attic. So, his name was Fivel, not just "Kid". It's best to have a name for the pray when you burry someone.
- Joyce. CONFIRMED NEW CHARACTER. Very few info on her... But she has a face!
Picture now available!- a guy named "Campman". HE IS THE MYSTERIOUS GUY STARING AT YOU DURING THE BURIAL! Picture now available!
Could he be related to the camp in the TV show, or similar? Could that mean you think the end of story will be about a boat, but in fact Clem will join a camp?? COULD HER MOTHER BE THERE??? Over speculation here, but obviously, if there is a campman, there is a camp, and there is a man. My bet is that Clem's fate, and so at least two endings, could be to go on the boat, or in the camp! Or just in the camp, and screw the boat (are they gonna push it in the streets anyway?)
- Boyd. No spoil here. It is the name of one of the black guys in Vernon's group. The other black guy in Vernon's group is named Clive. No pics, you know them.
- Oberson, The crawford leader. He is the guy hanging at the bell in the Crawford school, there is a rope mesh file namely for him. No pics, you know him. He is confirmed plain dead.
Other files mention guys named:
- David.
According to the wiki, David refers to three characters from the Comic Series, one from The Walking Dead: Rise of the Governor, and one from the Video Game, an actor from the TV Series, and two crew members.
From the Game, he is the teacher who got killed in Ep2. It would make sense as the files related to him in Ep.4 are all about "pain". They could be ghost files left here unattended. Highly probable, considering there are still files from episode 2.
- Andy with the particularity he is "happy", "angry" and "busted". We suppose so far he is the guy from Andrew St John's farm as pointed out by Galdis. Otherwise, in the TV Show, after Ethan came back from a failed mission, Andy, along with David, was killed by Negan, leader of The Saviors, because he didn't get enough supplies (wiki)
- Jeff. There are files for a zombie named "Jeff". Why? Who knows. Picture included so you can have some clues... There is a Jeff character in the TV show according to the wiki.
Also, in the dialog files, TTG was clever enough to name The Radio Guy, "RadioVoice". Damn you TellTale xD
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Comments
Let's get to work TWDetectives!
Also, keep in mind that Andy could mean Andy St. John and David was the name of the guy whose leg you can chop off in Episode 2.
I am working on those files but they require some specific work as they are not very standard and I just got my hands into that dirty stuff
It's also 5 am here...
Yes, it's him!
Here is Joyce, obviously she is not finished
Here is Jeff the zombie. Why? Who is that zombie? Who knows!
Makes sense.
After looking at the walkthrough and then deeper at the files, it's true
I will remove her from the list.
It's cool to know she is alive and will be in the next episode.
Her presence in the game files is mandatory because she is played on the video tape, which is just a scene as others.
There is zero evidence she will be in the next episode.
I guess I misunderstood how this works.
I am not sure that I can provide you direct link to whatever executable is out there, but if you want to find them by yourself at your own (what I estimate zero) risk:
Google -> TTarchext: MS-DOS software for extraction purposes
Google -> DDSViewer: to see the texture dds files (requires you to make a metadata extraction with ttarchext). Beware, that tool is willing to install you that bullcrap babylon bar. Untick that shit on setup.
And do not work on the orig game files before doing anything, copy them in a safe space. However, I assume you know what you do and how you will do, otherwise the task will be a bit complex.
If you want to put that files on corpses, you can use 3D modeling software like Maya/3DSMax, and use the other model data files, or replace the files with others and re-use ttarchext to recompress everything into a new .ttarch archive, replace old by new archive, then start the game (could corrupt your game, crash it or create bugs, I did not try, backup anything by renaming files in .old. Still I tried replacing a full legit ttarch file by another legit one without any crash, so I assume the code is pretty solid).
If you never did that kind of stuff, just forget it, or do it for training purposes. Using a hex editor might also help you to browse some files, like dialog files (which contain indications of the emotion the actor must have when speaking!), and look for hints.
I am not responsible of whatever will happen if you do it wrong dude! I am also not providing any more help past this point.
If TTG wants to fire out this post, please do not fire out the thread, only the post ;-) I gave you my thumbs up! Thx guys
Anyways I suppose I'll get to it. Far away from my coveted original files
It does, use number 52
I mean the original .exe I had before I asked you. It was all GUI and simple. But only support games older than a year old.
Yeah I know the guy has a ethical concern that noone should use his software to spoil TTG games. Damn, reversing the story is what we want, he had it wrong xD
Edit: UPDATED WITH THE PICTURE OF THE MYSTERY MAN!!
Indeed. The parents must be dead now, or they would not have let their kid die in an attic. He starved man... How long did that take? A long time... Poor Fizel.
This only brings more questions lol.
It brings answers :-)
There is a camp, and there is a boat. So you can have a lot more ideas of how it could end (in a choice for Clem presumably), and also that this guy is obviously not hostile (camp for refugees is a safe haven, just like in the TV show).
I don't trust anyone that watches me all creepylike like the Campman does.
I suspect they did it the creepy way exactly so you are confused about the man, and think the evil is where it is not :-) He was in shadows, it's not his fault, it's sun's fault. It is also important you get introduced to the campman in a memorable way, so you are like 'wtf' and will have to deal with contradictory feelings the first time you meet him.
If he wanted to kill you, or hurt you, this would have been the perfect situation. Lee, alone, handling a dead body, noone around. Actually, he was scared of you more than you of him
So we have as characters (until you safe Molly from the zombies & rescue Ben) these:
Lee (bitten)
Clementine (kidnapped)
Kenny
Christa (pregnant)
Omid (bad leg)
Molly
Ben
Vernon
Joyce (pretty sick)
Boyd
Clive
Campman
Jeff (the Zombie) (infected)
One of clems parents (more Clems mum most likely infected)
So we have 14 characters in the final episode, so many people will die here. I still have a little little bit of hope that Lilly shows up.
But sure, a lot are gonna die, especially those who won the contest and are included in the game to die xD
Oh my. What ever will we do now knowing we won't have the privilege of the great Count gracing us with his presence.
lol. It's just names to match faces and a little bit of speculation. Not much spoiling really happening other then that.
Also I always pegged Fivel as more of a pet's name than a person. Any chance its just the dogs name? (Sorry to anyone who may be named Fivel)
The campman will appear in episode 5, he is already in the story in Ep.4, he is the mystery man at the fence.
Ehm, no unfortunately, the files designate namely the kid as Fivel.
But if it can be of any consolation, he ended like a pet...
Do you remember that dog food on the kitchen's table?
It could be; you see the picture of the dog on the fridge and it says "my dog Walter". Now, it could be that the dog's name is Walter, or the kid who drew the picture signed his name as Walter.
So, they are in the basement of a hospital... it could be the hospital where Clem's dad got bitten and they didn't let both of them out. Perhaps Vernon knows about Clem's parents or the "campman" have atleast her mother.
Nice guess
From the wiki:
Clementine will continue to appear in this episode 5. It is possible that something related to Clementine's family will take place in this episodes because one of the chapters is titled "The Marsh House".
Message two. Left at eleven-nine-teen p.m.: Oh my god, finally! I don't know if you tried to reach us; all the calls are getting dropped. They're are not letting us leave and aren't telling us anything about Atlanta. Please, please just leave the city and take Clementine with you back to Marietta. I've got to get back to the hospital. Please let me know you are safe.
Message three. Left at six-fifty-one a.m.: Clementine? If you hear this, call the police. That's 9-1-1. We love you... we love you... we love y-
When you read at message two the sentence they have to go back to the hospital, it does must be in Savannah... the only hospital where Vernon and his cancer group hide in the basement that "is since 1 year abandoned"
If you listen to message three and how the mother speak, then you know: 1st that Clem's dad is infected & 2nd that they must be in Crawford to that time. Diana's voice sounds scary, shocked & sad, so her parents did not know what happen in Savannah when they was in the city before all the bullsh*t started. It is also to note that "some crazy guy" who bit Clem's father Ed near the hotel could be the zombie "Jeff", when you go back 1 page to see the photos from him.
It does kinda sound that Diana was kidnapped by the "campman" to have his group of survivors or his "campers". Since "campman" is from Crawford or more from Savannah, he must be interested also in Lee, the guy can't really know Lee in any way. He might seeing him as a threat what Clementine told the "campman" via the walkie-talkie and what happend in the group with Lilly, Larry, St. Johns, Kenny and stuff (depends on your decisions you made).
I should stop going in Spoiler threads, they get me more anxious about the next episode rather than male the wait less-painful... anyway, thanks for the spoiler (no sarcasm).