Also btw, I re-heard the answer-machine in Clementines House and these 2 tapes are interesting from Clem's mom Diana:
Message two. Left at eleven-nine-teen p.m.:Oh my god, finally! I don't know if you tried to reach us; all the calls are getting dropped. They're are not letting us leave and aren't telling us anything about Atlanta. Please, please just leave the city and take Clementine with you back to Marietta. I've got to get back to the hospital. Please let me know you are safe.
Message three. Left at six-fifty-one a.m.:Clementine? If you hear this, call the police. That's 9-1-1. We love you... we love you... we love y-
When you read at message two the sentence they have to go back to the hospital, it does must be in Savannah... the only hospital where Vernon and his cancer group hide in the basement that "is since 1 year abandoned"
If you listen to message three and how the mother speak, then you know: 1st that Clem's dad is infected & 2nd that they must be in Crawford to that time. Diana's voice sounds scary, shocked & sad, so her parents did not know what happen in Savannah when they was in the city before all the bullsh*t started. It is also to note that "some crazy guy" who bit Clem's father Ed near the hotel could be the zombie "Jeff", when you go back 1 page to see the photos from him.
It does kinda sound that Diana was kidnapped by the "campman" to have his group of survivors or his "campers". Since "campman" is from Crawford or more from Savannah, he must be interested also in Lee, the guy can't really know Lee in any way. He might seeing him as a threat what Clementine told the "campman" via the walkie-talkie and what happend in the group with Lilly, Larry, St. Johns, Kenny and stuff (depends on your decisions you made).
the fact Clem's mother went at the hospital of Savannah is pretty clear. But having her abducted by the campman is, I assume, overspeculating. Also, you think the campman is the radio guy, I think he is not, because the radio man is known in the files as "Radio Voice" and Campman, well, he is Campman. I think TTG wanted you to think Campman is a threat, to obscure the real scenario before the final show.
I think campman is friendly, and never abducted Clem, but will lead to another ending that the one expected with the boat. Indeed, the boat ending is too obvious to be true, so it must not be that ending, while a story about a camp of survivors totally falls back on the canon story of The Walking Dead comic & TV show.
ayy just so you know, there is a Joyce in ep4. She's the OLD lady in the cancer survivors group, She has no dialogue in the episode so she might not be in the credits but that mesh thing looks like it could be her..
ayy just so you know, there is a Joyce in ep4. She's the OLD lady in the cancer survivors group, She has no dialogue in the episode so she might not be in the credits but that mesh thing looks like it could be her..
Good freaking observation. I'm starting to wonder what really are spoilers for ep 5. lol
I am not sure that I can provide you direct link to whatever executable is out there, but if you want to find them by yourself at your own (what I estimate zero) risk:
Google -> TTarchext: MS-DOS software for extraction purposes
Google -> DDSViewer: to see the texture dds files (requires you to make a metadata extraction with ttarchext). Beware, that tool is willing to install you that bullcrap babylon bar. Untick that shit on setup.
And do not work on the orig game files before doing anything, copy them in a safe space. However, I assume you know what you do and how you will do, otherwise the task will be a bit complex.
If you want to put that files on corpses, you can use 3D modeling software like Maya/3DSMax, and use the other model data files, or replace the files with others and re-use ttarchext to recompress everything into a new .ttarch archive, replace old by new archive, then start the game (could corrupt your game, crash it or create bugs, I did not try, backup anything by renaming files in .old. Still I tried replacing a full legit ttarch file by another legit one without any crash, so I assume the code is pretty solid).
If you never did that kind of stuff, just forget it, or do it for training purposes. Using a hex editor might also help you to browse some files, like dialog files (which contain indications of the emotion the actor must have when speaking!), and look for hints.
I am not responsible of whatever will happen if you do it wrong dude! I am also not providing any more help past this point.
If TTG wants to fire out this post, please do not fire out the thread, only the post ;-) I gave you my thumbs up! Thx guys
Thanks for posting about the TTarchext. My video card went out. And my onboard video is not supported by the game. On high settings I had black boxes around everything and on low all the control icons were blacked out. I was able to fix it with this. The end of EP 4 was hard not seeing where the cursor was.
ayy just so you know, there is a Joyce in ep4. She's the OLD lady in the cancer survivors group, She has no dialogue in the episode so she might not be in the credits but that mesh thing looks like it could be her..
Spoiler is when you tell the story elements to people who did not play the game or did not finish it.
OVER-spoiler is when you spoil the story to people who FINISHED IT.
THIS IS OVER-SPOILER
I took a look at TELLTALE .ttarch game files, which are the game data archives I extracted with third party obscure MS-DOS tools, and I found some stuff...
IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE SPOILED ABOUT ANYTHING STOP NOW!!!
*** END OF WARNING ***
Updates:
- you should read all the pages of this thread to dig into the most plausible stories of ep. 5
- The mystery man at the burial now has a name! AND A FACE!
- Included info on a mysterious Jeff zombie
- Now with pictures included in this thread! Look further!
- I let the names of the people who were unnamed in Episode 4, so you can now who they were. Learn more about the attic kid, Vernon's group and the Crawford leader!
Spoilers & Insights:
So, basically, I found some skeleton and 3D Mesh files wearing the name of characters or elements of the game...
I found names I never met in the game. They are:
- Fivel. The 3D mesh body files for this guy point out he has his head either shot or smashed. The texture file designate the kid in the attic. So, his name was Fivel, not just "Kid". It's best to have a name for the pray when you burry someone.
- Joyce. CONFIRMED NEW CHARACTER. Very few info on her... But she has a face! Picture now available!
- a guy named "Campman". HE IS THE MYSTERIOUS GUY STARING AT YOU DURING THE BURIAL! Picture now available!
Could he be related to the camp in the TV show, or similar? Could that mean you think the end of story will be about a boat, but in fact Clem will join a camp?? COULD HER MOTHER BE THERE??? Over speculation here, but obviously, if there is a campman, there is a camp, and there is a man. My bet is that Clem's fate, and so at least two endings, could be to go on the boat, or in the camp! Or just in the camp, and screw the boat (are they gonna push it in the streets anyway?)
- Boyd. No spoil here. It is the name of one of the black guys in Vernon's group. The other black guy in Vernon's group is named Clive. No pics, you know them.
- Oberson, The crawford leader. He is the guy hanging at the bell in the Crawford school, there is a rope mesh file namely for him. No pics, you know him. He is confirmed plain dead.
Other files mention guys named:
- David.
According to the wiki, David refers to three characters from the Comic Series, one from The Walking Dead: Rise of the Governor, and one from the Video Game, an actor from the TV Series, and two crew members.
From the Game, he is the teacher who got killed in Ep2. It would make sense as the files related to him in Ep.4 are all about "pain". They could be ghost files left here unattended. Highly probable, considering there are still files from episode 2.
- Andy with the particularity he is "happy", "angry" and "busted". We suppose so far he is the guy from Andrew St John's farm as pointed out by Galdis. Otherwise, in the TV Show, after Ethan came back from a failed mission, Andy, along with David, was killed by Negan, leader of The Saviors, because he didn't get enough supplies (wiki)
- Jeff. There are files for a zombie named "Jeff". Why? Who knows. Picture included so you can have some clues... There is a Jeff character in the TV show according to the wiki.
Also, in the dialog files, TTG was clever enough to name The Radio Guy, "RadioVoice". Damn you TellTale xD
Spoiler is when you tell the story elements to people who did not play the game or did not finish it.
OVER-spoiler is when you spoil the story to people who FINISHED IT.
THIS IS OVER-SPOILER
I took a look at TELLTALE .ttarch game files, which are the game data archives I extracted with third party obscure MS-DOS tools, and I found some stuff...
IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE SPOILED ABOUT ANYTHING STOP NOW!!!
*** END OF WARNING ***
Updates:
- you should read all the pages of this thread to dig into the most plausible stories of ep. 5
- The mystery man at the burial now has a name! AND A FACE!
- Included info on a mysterious Jeff zombie
- Now with pictures included in this thread! Look further!
- I let the names of the people who were unnamed in Episode 4, so you can now who they were. Learn more about the attic kid, Vernon's group and the Crawford leader!
Spoilers & Insights:
So, basically, I found some skeleton and 3D Mesh files wearing the name of characters or elements of the game...
I found names I never met in the game. They are:
- Fivel. The 3D mesh body files for this guy point out he has his head either shot or smashed. The texture file designate the kid in the attic. So, his name was Fivel, not just "Kid". It's best to have a name for the pray when you burry someone.
- Joyce. CONFIRMED NEW CHARACTER. Very few info on her... But she has a face! Picture now available!
- a guy named "Campman". HE IS THE MYSTERIOUS GUY STARING AT YOU DURING THE BURIAL! Picture now available!
Could he be related to the camp in the TV show, or similar? Could that mean you think the end of story will be about a boat, but in fact Clem will join a camp?? COULD HER MOTHER BE THERE??? Over speculation here, but obviously, if there is a campman, there is a camp, and there is a man. My bet is that Clem's fate, and so at least two endings, could be to go on the boat, or in the camp! Or just in the camp, and screw the boat (are they gonna push it in the streets anyway?)
- Boyd. No spoil here. It is the name of one of the black guys in Vernon's group. The other black guy in Vernon's group is named Clive. No pics, you know them.
- Oberson, The crawford leader. He is the guy hanging at the bell in the Crawford school, there is a rope mesh file namely for him. No pics, you know him. He is confirmed plain dead.
Other files mention guys named:
- David.
According to the wiki, David refers to three characters from the Comic Series, one from The Walking Dead: Rise of the Governor, and one from the Video Game, an actor from the TV Series, and two crew members.
From the Game, he is the teacher who got killed in Ep2. It would make sense as the files related to him in Ep.4 are all about "pain". They could be ghost files left here unattended. Highly probable, considering there are still files from episode 2.
- Andy with the particularity he is "happy", "angry" and "busted". We suppose so far he is the guy from Andrew St John's farm as pointed out by Galdis. Otherwise, in the TV Show, after Ethan came back from a failed mission, Andy, along with David, was killed by Negan, leader of The Saviors, because he didn't get enough supplies (wiki)
- Jeff. There are files for a zombie named "Jeff". Why? Who knows. Picture included so you can have some clues... There is a Jeff character in the TV show according to the wiki.
Also, in the dialog files, TTG was clever enough to name The Radio Guy, "RadioVoice". Damn you TellTale xD
If you look at the dialog files for Ep 3 it uses campman instead of radio voice for the guy on the radio.
I've listened to the messages a couple of times and I don't think Clem's Dad is necessarily infected. The guy bitten is just referred to as "Ed" and not explicitly as Clem's father. Maybe this "Ed"-Guy is just another dude who travelled with them. Also Clem's mother says "WE had to get him back to the ER" so she says there were more than 1 person that got "Ed" back to the ER after he got bitten. Seems to imply that their group consisted of more people than just Clem's parents.
Ed could be Clem's father, but he doesn't have to be.
I've listened to the messages a couple of times and I don't think Clem's Dad is necessarily infected. The guy bitten is just referred to as "Ed" and not explicitly as Clem's father. Maybe this "Ed"-Guy is just another dude who travelled with them. Also Clem's mother says "WE had to get him back to the ER" so she says there were more than 1 person that got "Ed" back to the ER after he got bitten. Seems to imply that their group consisted of more people than just Clem's parents.
Ed could be Clem's father, but he doesn't have to be.
I half agree with you. Ed is definitely Clem's father (her mother's name is Diana) but I don't think he was infected. At the end Clem's mom says "WE love you, WE love you..." because I think they were about to be killed.
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the fact Clem's mother went at the hospital of Savannah is pretty clear. But having her abducted by the campman is, I assume, overspeculating. Also, you think the campman is the radio guy, I think he is not, because the radio man is known in the files as "Radio Voice" and Campman, well, he is Campman. I think TTG wanted you to think Campman is a threat, to obscure the real scenario before the final show.
I think campman is friendly, and never abducted Clem, but will lead to another ending that the one expected with the boat. Indeed, the boat ending is too obvious to be true, so it must not be that ending, while a story about a camp of survivors totally falls back on the canon story of The Walking Dead comic & TV show.
Good freaking observation. I'm starting to wonder what really are spoilers for ep 5. lol
As for the rest. No real EP5 spoilers
do you have a link to ttg tools?
I thought she was called Ammy?
It's Joyce.
I read up and on the wiki it used to be Ammy,but it is now Joyce.
this is a spoiler forum for spoilers
This is an overspoiler lol
There's actually zero spoilers for episode 5. Everything discovered is in ep 4.
If you look at the dialog files for Ep 3 it uses campman instead of radio voice for the guy on the radio.
If you did I have a friend who might be able to render them.
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Woah.
I've listened to the messages a couple of times and I don't think Clem's Dad is necessarily infected. The guy bitten is just referred to as "Ed" and not explicitly as Clem's father. Maybe this "Ed"-Guy is just another dude who travelled with them. Also Clem's mother says "WE had to get him back to the ER" so she says there were more than 1 person that got "Ed" back to the ER after he got bitten. Seems to imply that their group consisted of more people than just Clem's parents.
Ed could be Clem's father, but he doesn't have to be.
Clem's light-skinned like her mom but she's black.
I half agree with you. Ed is definitely Clem's father (her mother's name is Diana) but I don't think he was infected. At the end Clem's mom says "WE love you, WE love you..." because I think they were about to be killed.