TheGonza, your pic almost made me crap my pants!! too funny my friend.
It is what I've been trying to say all along, you cannot compare a "zombie" virus or contagion to anything we know today, imagine if it happened now, would I run to the drug store for penicillin? No!!
Another good topic brought up is the decomposition of the walkers (or "dead") as we know them...what truly makes them dead? It was confirmed that brain functions resume and the primal desire to eat is everything, what I don't get is why don't we see "walker crap"? You would think an walker legion would crap quit regularly since they eat all the time, right?
Maybe the eating is what helps replenish their bodies with fluids and keeps them from rotting to the bones. I know there are flaws in this but if their metabolism is slowed down, maybe eating half of what one of us needs will suffice?
TheGonza, your pic almost made me crap my pants!! too funny my friend.
It is what I've been trying to say all along, you cannot compare a "zombie" virus or contagion to anything we know today, imagine if it happened now, would I run to the drug store for penicillin? No!!
Another good topic brought up is the decomposition of the walkers (or "dead") as we know them...what truly makes them dead? It was confirmed that brain functions resume and the primal desire to eat is everything, what I don't get is why don't we see "walker crap"? You would think an walker legion would crap quit regularly since they eat all the time, right?
Maybe the eating is what helps replenish their bodies with fluids and keeps them from rotting to the bones. I know there are flaws in this but if their metabolism is slowed down, maybe eating half of what one of us needs will suffice?
I did and also read World War Z...both very good and two different spins on what and how the zombies make it. In both they freeze in the cold and eventually die, but that was another author......
So I'm saying you cannot take one book and apply it to another genre, plain and simple.
Its wrong to see the bite=death as a mere case of normal infection from
The bite causing death.
It has to be something that kickstarts the dormant virus.
Else it does not mesh with the story.
Think about it, a komodo bite is not 100 percent lethal. It is also treatable. And can take quite a while for someone to succumb to. All doesnt fit with the lore
And at the break out? Fresh zombies would have a bite with low infection chance and easily treatable with medical infrastructure still intact. Bite/scratch is already a slow vector to spread a virus...but in this case the apocalypse would never really get started.
"successfully treated the patients homeopathically"
ya... you might want to check your source there
Who knows, maybe homeopathic remedy's work on zombies, afterall both the effects of zombie bites and the advertised effects of homeopathic treatments are equally fictional.
TheGonza, your pic almost made me crap my pants!! too funny my friend.
It is what I've been trying to say all along, you cannot compare a "zombie" virus or contagion to anything we know today, imagine if it happened now, would I run to the drug store for penicillin? No!!
Another good topic brought up is the decomposition of the walkers (or "dead") as we know them...what truly makes them dead? It was confirmed that brain functions resume and the primal desire to eat is everything, what I don't get is why don't we see "walker crap"? You would think an walker legion would crap quit regularly since they eat all the time, right?
Maybe the eating is what helps replenish their bodies with fluids and keeps them from rotting to the bones. I know there are flaws in this but if their metabolism is slowed down, maybe eating half of what one of us needs will suffice?
Walkers don't digest the food they eat, they just let the meat rot inside of them. Anyway, in the comics we have seen plenty of walkers that are highly decomposed, to the point they can barely move.
It's probably something new, which is resistant to all current medication. Pretty sure that medications would be the first things tried when someone has got an infection, and the symptoms are getting worse by the minute.
It's probably something new, which is resistant to all current medication.
Exactly or something that is present in the human mouth made worse by incubating in the zombie mouth.
Altho everyone should just stop speculating or trying to find a logic fault where there is none. Quite simply...
A zed bite causes a severe infection in all victims with a 100 percent fatality rate. And everyone is already infected and will rise. That's all the info that's ever really been give. And until Kirkman & Co. add anything any discussion is a metaphorical exercise in mental masturbation
Walkers don't digest the food they eat, they just let the meat rot inside of them. Anyway, in the comics we have seen plenty of walkers that are highly decomposed, to the point they can barely move.
We don't know that the zeds don't digest their food, either way it doesn't matter. Food goes in....nothing comes out, impossible.
Zombies would all either have ruptured stomachs or would be defecating the excess. I know I said don't bring up other genres in TWD lore, one of two must happen.
Some walkers are highly decomposed, but what is to say it wasn't a result of being eaten prior to their reawakening? We still have no clue if walkers decompose like normal dead things do.
**I haven't read the comics so if they do in their I'm unaware of it**
"Kurt Schwenk, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Connecticut, finds the discovery of these glands intriguing, but considers most of the evidence for venom in the study to be "meaningless, irrelevant, incorrect or falsely misleading". Even if the lizards have venomlike proteins in their mouths, Schwenk argues, they may be using them for a different function, and he doubts that venom is necessary to explain the effect of a Komodo dragon bite, arguing that shock and blood loss are the primary factors.[37][38]"
I'm inclined to agree; even if venom was present, it doesn't seem to be a factor - people survive komodo bites just fine even though there's no antivenom for any theoretical venom they have, on the other hand, a poor shmuck that gets bitten still needs antibiotics.
This Thread is hillarious......quoting doctors for zombie bite advice LMFAO
It's just a minor detail most people would like to flesh out when thinking about scenarios within the TWD universe, like any other fiction.
I'd think that a walker's bite is as lethal as any infection. It would be accelerated only because of the amount of bacteria present in a corpse, and how complicated the wound is.
A zombie's bite is like a bite from a dog with rabies. If it bites you, and gets in deep enough (Like lee), you will get rabies unless treated immediately. A zombie bite's cure is instant amputation. Lee got the infection from the bite and it already went trough his body. He is a (un)dead man.
The funny thing that really complicates kirman's official statements on zombie bites is simply other things he allows happen. Like zombie bodily fluids don't cause you to turn, as tyreese has been completely covered in zombie blood before, and the governor used to deep kiss his zombified niece, penny, after removing her teeth, and thus, would have swapped saliva. Robert kirkman always said it was saliva that causes zombie bits to be extremely infectious and have a 100% death rate unless the infected area is cut off directly after to stop the spread. Yet penny blake's saliva is a-ok in the governors mouth "as long as she doesn't have teeth"....lol
So yeah, it's kind of silly to think about it. Just need to suspend your disbelief and go with it. Heck, in star wars they can travel PAST light speed, and take almost no time to get places. People question that less than >zombie< bites lol.
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It is what I've been trying to say all along, you cannot compare a "zombie" virus or contagion to anything we know today, imagine if it happened now, would I run to the drug store for penicillin? No!!
Another good topic brought up is the decomposition of the walkers (or "dead") as we know them...what truly makes them dead? It was confirmed that brain functions resume and the primal desire to eat is everything, what I don't get is why don't we see "walker crap"? You would think an walker legion would crap quit regularly since they eat all the time, right?
Maybe the eating is what helps replenish their bodies with fluids and keeps them from rotting to the bones. I know there are flaws in this but if their metabolism is slowed down, maybe eating half of what one of us needs will suffice?
Then you'd die of bleach poisoning. :P
Surely he meant cleaning alcohol and not bleach... and that hurts like a sonova!
Read the "Zombie Survival Guide" for answers.
I did and also read World War Z...both very good and two different spins on what and how the zombies make it. In both they freeze in the cold and eventually die, but that was another author......
So I'm saying you cannot take one book and apply it to another genre, plain and simple.
This pretty much explains my feelings for this forum at the moment.
If you are someone in the zombie apocalypse and you have not come to terms with the fact that you will very likely get bitten, you are a fool.
The bite causing death.
It has to be something that kickstarts the dormant virus.
Else it does not mesh with the story.
Think about it, a komodo bite is not 100 percent lethal. It is also treatable. And can take quite a while for someone to succumb to. All doesnt fit with the lore
And at the break out? Fresh zombies would have a bite with low infection chance and easily treatable with medical infrastructure still intact. Bite/scratch is already a slow vector to spread a virus...but in this case the apocalypse would never really get started.
Who knows, maybe homeopathic remedy's work on zombies, afterall both the effects of zombie bites and the advertised effects of homeopathic treatments are equally fictional.
Walkers don't digest the food they eat, they just let the meat rot inside of them. Anyway, in the comics we have seen plenty of walkers that are highly decomposed, to the point they can barely move.
*tries using real world science in a fictional story*
yep, that will work out really well!
Exactly or something that is present in the human mouth made worse by incubating in the zombie mouth.
Altho everyone should just stop speculating or trying to find a logic fault where there is none. Quite simply...
A zed bite causes a severe infection in all victims with a 100 percent fatality rate. And everyone is already infected and will rise. That's all the info that's ever really been give. And until Kirkman & Co. add anything any discussion is a metaphorical exercise in mental masturbation
We don't know that the zeds don't digest their food, either way it doesn't matter. Food goes in....nothing comes out, impossible.
Zombies would all either have ruptured stomachs or would be defecating the excess. I know I said don't bring up other genres in TWD lore, one of two must happen.
Some walkers are highly decomposed, but what is to say it wasn't a result of being eaten prior to their reawakening? We still have no clue if walkers decompose like normal dead things do.
**I haven't read the comics so if they do in their I'm unaware of it**
From the article:
"Kurt Schwenk, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Connecticut, finds the discovery of these glands intriguing, but considers most of the evidence for venom in the study to be "meaningless, irrelevant, incorrect or falsely misleading". Even if the lizards have venomlike proteins in their mouths, Schwenk argues, they may be using them for a different function, and he doubts that venom is necessary to explain the effect of a Komodo dragon bite, arguing that shock and blood loss are the primary factors.[37][38]"
I'm inclined to agree; even if venom was present, it doesn't seem to be a factor - people survive komodo bites just fine even though there's no antivenom for any theoretical venom they have, on the other hand, a poor shmuck that gets bitten still needs antibiotics.
It's just a minor detail most people would like to flesh out when thinking about scenarios within the TWD universe, like any other fiction.
I'd think that a walker's bite is as lethal as any infection. It would be accelerated only because of the amount of bacteria present in a corpse, and how complicated the wound is.
So yeah, it's kind of silly to think about it. Just need to suspend your disbelief and go with it. Heck, in star wars they can travel PAST light speed, and take almost no time to get places. People question that less than >zombie< bites lol.
The text he copied in is just as fictional as the walking dead :P
The rules for ZA don't even really hold true from story to story. It just depends on the writer's universe and their rules.