Did you let Lilly back on the RV?

fusedmassfusedmass Banned
edited November 2012 in The Walking Dead
It's so disappointing. I couldn't bear to kill her Father. When she needed Lee the most in her most desperate moment. He was there putting boot to Kenndy's Butt.

Now Kenndy act's like I'm his worst foe. Treating me completely different. We have an argument in the espoide 3. She shoots Doug in the head and I still have enough compassion to let her back on the RV.

Then she tells Kenndy about my past. I guess that's what I get for bringing doug. I didn't have the option to tell them about my past. But Lilly why would she do this?
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  • edited November 2012
    fusedmass wrote: »
    It's so disappointing. I couldn't bear to kill her Father. When she needed Lee the most in her most desperate moment. He was there putting boot to Kenndy's Butt.

    Now Kenndy act's like I'm his worst foe. Treating me completely different. We have an argument in the espoide 3. She shoots Doug in the head and I still have enough compassion to let her back on the RV.

    Then she tells Kenndy about my past. I guess that's what I get for bringing doug. I didn't have the option to tell them about my past. But Lilly why would she do this?

    I bashed Larry's head in so Kenny is my buddy. Lilly shot Doug in the head and I couldn't forgive her. It made her a huge liability so I happily left her behind. Lilly then told people about my past, duck had been bitten though so no one cared too much. Lilly was going a bit nuts by this point so I'm not surprised she tells everyone.
  • edited November 2012
    On my first playthrough not on others, and Kenndy lol
  • edited November 2012
    Nope. I left her in my first playthrough after she shot Carley.
  • edited November 2012
    I left her. I felt it was kind of my fault since I helped Kenny off her dad, but that probably made me, and possibly Clem, a target. If she shot Carley for simply talking back, what would happen to the two men who helped kill her father? And their families?
  • edited November 2012
    Good point Rock for your play-through...in mine I tried to save her dad when Kenny bashed his brains in all over my clothes, without so much as a warning to move away from the splatter.

    I kept Lilly with us because I didn't want to just kill her like she killed Carly, although she warranted it, but I wanted to afford her the opportunity of a group decision similar to a jury when we were sure we were out of danger. IF the group voted her to be executed or be admonished from the group later, I would have went with it as I would have voted for her execution for cold-blooded murder.

    I guess I try and hang onto humanity when able to and try and not become a beast.
  • edited November 2012
    I brought Lilly for the same reason. She was part of the group, and deserved a proper discussion and vote instead of being ditched on the side of the road.

    Interesting that people would not kill St Johns, who were murdering cannibals, but would abandon Lilly to die because she went crazy and murdered someone. Apparently the St Johns deserve mercy because they premeditate, whereas Lilly deserves to die because she doesn't. Ben also deserves to die because he gets people killed without meaning to.

    So ... if you are a murderer, players spare you. If you make mistakes, players kill you.

    In TWD, players consider mistakes worse than murder.
  • edited November 2012
    IndigoHawk wrote: »
    I brought Lilly for the same reason. She was part of the group, and deserved a proper discussion and vote instead of being ditched on the side of the road.

    Interesting that people would not kill St Johns, who were murdering cannibals, but would abandon Lilly to die because she went crazy and murdered someone. Apparently the St Johns deserve mercy because they premeditate, whereas Lilly deserves to die because she doesn't. Ben also deserves to die because he gets people killed without meaning to.

    So ... if you are a murderer, players spare you. If you make mistakes, players kill you.

    In TWD, players consider mistakes worse than murder.

    That's a bit of a huge, and completely wrong, assumption. Each situation has totally different circumstances which have to be taken in to consideration, you can't just compare them like that.

    I only killed Danny, I dropped Ben and I left Lilly, and here's the ACTUAL reasons why. Lilly didn't make a mistake, she murdered a member of the group in cold blood on the assumption she was right. She didn't give Ben a fair vote before trying to shoot him, so why should we give her one. Who's to say who else she would have quickly shot if she thought they were in the wrong. She became a threat to the group and that's why I left her. The st johns brother and Ben were in completely different scenarios. I didn't need to kill the second st johns brother, he had nothing left and we were leaving him behind, he was no longer a threat to us, even though he was a psychopath. I feel guilty for dropping Ben, but I shot the walker that attacked him and grabbed him as he fell, he made no effort to climb up and was begging me to leave him. I put the safety of the group first again as I thought walkers may attack them in the time It took to pull Ben up, not to mention the fact he was a huge liability to begin with.

    You write your comment like everyone that chose different options to you is in the wrong and should feel ashamed.
  • edited November 2012
    Left her behind to rot. I try to save her dad and be nice to her and, as a reward, she kills Carley!
  • fusedmassfusedmass Banned
    edited November 2012
    IndigoHawk wrote: »
    I brought Lilly for the same reason. She was part of the group, and deserved a proper discussion and vote instead of being ditched on the side of the road.

    Interesting that people would not kill St Johns, who were murdering cannibals, but would abandon Lilly to die because she went crazy and murdered someone. Apparently the St Johns deserve mercy because they premeditate, whereas Lilly deserves to die because she doesn't. Ben also deserves to die because he gets people killed without meaning to.

    So ... if you are a murderer, players spare you. If you make mistakes, players kill you.

    In TWD, players consider mistakes worse than murder.

    Something interesting here.

    If you bring Carely. It looks like a pure accident she shot her. A slight move of the trigger.

    If you bring Doug. Then you can see her holding the gun up aiming it and Doug jumps in front of Ben and gets shot in side of head. She meant to kill Ben.

    Interestingly enough she was right about Ben having something to do with the supply's. He almost comes close to admitting it. Right before they run over the walker in the road.
  • edited November 2012
    HELL NO!
    i wouldn't let that BIACH ON THE RV!
  • edited November 2012
    Not only did I let her back in the RV but I was planning on taking off with her and Clem when she steals it.
  • edited November 2012
    Ninnuendo wrote: »
    Not only did I let her back in the RV but I was planning on taking off with her and Clem when she steals it.

    Lilly lover alert
  • edited November 2012
    I kicked that bitch to the curb
  • edited November 2012
    Lilly lover alert

    Lilly + The RV vs Kenny, Ben, Katjaa + The Train (Duck was already dead essentially)

    Easy choice, Lilly was more useful than all 3 put together. Kenny is an ass, Ben is a moron and Katjaa does fuck all.
  • edited November 2012
    Ninnuendo wrote: »
    Lilly + The RV vs Kenny, Ben, Katjaa + The Train (Duck was already dead essentially)

    Easy choice, Lilly was more useful than all 3 put together. Kenny is an ass, Ben is a moron and Katjaa does fuck all.

    the most probable reason she left is she thinks has done something horrible (which she has) and she feels the need to leave to not cause anymore trouble
  • edited November 2012
    the most probable reason she left is she thinks has done something horrible (which she has) and she feels the need to leave to not cause anymore trouble

    I wish Kenny had taken that attitude after the meatlocker. He kept going on about leaving in the RV, I wish he had and I told him so at the start of Ep 3. His reply was that he knew Lee, Clem, Lilly and Carley wouldn't go with him and that he didn't want to get stuck with Ben.
  • edited November 2012
    Ninnuendo wrote: »
    I wish Kenny had taken that attitude after the meatlocker. He kept going on about leaving in the RV, I wish he had and I told him so at the start of Ep 3. His reply was that he knew Lee, Clem, Lilly and Carley wouldn't go with him and that he didn't want to get stuck with Ben.

    sooner or later they have to run out of supplies and food if they stay in one place
  • edited November 2012
    sooner or later they have to run out of supplies and food if they stay in one place

    They had supplies from the car.
    Kenny simply doesn't have the courage of his convictions, he wants to leave but won't go unless everyone else comes with him because he knows he'd be screwed. Even after Lilly takes the RV he tells Lee that it's buggered and won't last much longer. So what the hell was he thinking about leaving for then?
  • edited November 2012
    Ninnuendo wrote: »
    They had supplies from the car.
    Kenny simply doesn't have the courage of his convictions, he wants to leave but won't go unless everyone else comes with him because he knows he'd be screwed. Even after Lilly takes the RV he tells Lee that it's buggered and won't last much longer. So what the hell was he thinking about leaving for then?

    that food Ain't lasting years ya know
  • edited November 2012
    that food Ain't lasting years ya know

    I think it'd last longer than the 30 minutes the RV had left. Kenny's plan works out like this

    Load up the RV with supplies
    Drive off
    Break down 30 minutes later
    Stay with supplies and die/Leave supplies and die

    Funny he didn't mention the RV being useless before, isn't it?
  • edited November 2012
    Ninnuendo wrote: »
    I think it'd last longer than the 30 minutes the RV had left. Kenny's plan works out like this

    Load up the RV with supplies
    Drive off
    Break down 30 minutes later
    Stay with supplies and die/Leave supplies and die

    Funny he didn't mention the RV being useless before, isn't it?

    lucky they found a train
  • edited November 2012
    lucky they found a train

    I think being lucky was part of Kenny's plan.
  • edited November 2012
    Ninnuendo wrote: »
    I think being lucky was part of Kenny's plan.

    "Duck bit wasn't luck though". Clem said
  • edited November 2012
    Exactly, you cant rely on luck, which is why Kenny's plan was utterly stupid and irresponsible, and he knew it.
  • fusedmassfusedmass Banned
    edited November 2012
    The thing that upset me on Lilly. When I saw her about to steal the RV. (Which she does if you bring her back on) I told her to "Go" and she ask's me to come with her. I say "Okay" and I step outside of the RV and she peels away with tires rubbing against the ground.

    I sincerely feel bad for what she went through but she is ditched either way.
  • edited November 2012
    No I did not let her back into the RV. And I'll explain why.
    Lily and her dad was not that welcoming and nice when you first encountered them. I don't like hostile people especially during a catastrophe. If you can't stick together and let out a little trust. Then things are going to be bad.
    Eventually I tried to digest the fact that, this is the way they behave all the time. Zombie Apocalypse or not. However that still doesn't excuse the way they argue all the time.
    I did try to save Lily's father however Kenny took it upon himself to bash his head in with a salt lick... I felt bad for her, but things looked grim and I didn't think he was going to make it. Kenny was a jerk for it, but I could understand his reasonings a little bit.

    After her father died, she kind of lost it. Even though I still chose to stuck up for her. She was already 2 wheels short of a bicycle (thats southern talk for crazy). The last straw, she killed Carley in cold blood for trying to talk some sense into her.

    Now Kenny, I would have killed him or left him behind if he didn't have a sweet wife and a child to care for. He is no angel either.
  • edited November 2012
    Ninnuendo wrote: »
    Exactly, you cant rely on luck, which is why Kenny's plan was utterly stupid and irresponsible, and he knew it.

    Compared to hanging around the motel with loads of bandits in a nearby forest just waiting for a chance for revenge and clearly planning something? Not to mention, Kenny probably wasn't finished on the repairs on the RV when they were forced to use it. Besides the RV didn't even break down, Kenny just stopped it to give the radiator a break.

    Anyway I left her at the side of the road. Like someone else said, if she was crazy enough to shoot Carely for talking back, there's no reason she wouldn't go after the people who killed her dad and maybe their families. As Katjaa said, we have to have lines.
  • edited November 2012
    lilTomTom wrote: »
    No I did not let her back into the RV. And I'll explain why.
    Lily and her dad was not that welcoming and nice when you first encountered them. I don't like hostile people especially during a catastrophe. If you can't stick together and let out a little trust. Then things are going to be bad.
    Eventually I tried to digest the fact that, this is the way they behave all the time. Zombie Apocalypse or not. However that still doesn't excuse the way they argue all the time.
    I did try to save Lily's father however Kenny took it upon himself to bash his head in with a salt lick... I felt bad for her, but things looked grim and I didn't think he was going to make it. Kenny was a jerk for it, but I could understand his reasonings a little bit.

    After her father died, she kind of lost it. Even though I still chose to stuck up for her. She was already 2 wheels short of a bicycle (thats southern talk for crazy). The last straw, she killed Carley in cold blood for trying to talk some sense into her.

    Now Kenny, I would have killed him or left him behind if he didn't have a sweet wife and a child to care for. He is no angel either.
    you have sympathy for Lilly?
    Lilly lover alert
  • edited November 2012
    Wrighty wrote: »
    Compared to hanging around the motel with loads of bandits in a nearby forest just waiting for a chance for revenge and clearing planning something? Not to mention, Kenny probably wasn't finished on the repairs on the RV when they were forced to use it. Besides the RV didn't even break down, Kenny just stopped it to give the radiator a break.

    Anyway I left her at the side of the road. Like someone else said, if she was crazy enough to shoot Carely for talking back, there's no reason she wouldn't go after the people who killed her dad and maybe their families. As Katjaa said, we have to have lines.

    exacly:D
  • edited November 2012
    you have sympathy for Lilly?
    Lilly lover alert

    I have a small sympathy for anyone losing a family member. But that was quickly diminished shown by her actions later on. She went crazy!
  • edited November 2012
    lilTomTom wrote: »
    I have a small sympathy for anyone losing a family member. But that was quickly diminished shown by her actions later on. She went crazy!

    going crazy by losing a loved one would be killing the killer.
    but killing an innocent girl/dude is messed up
    I had no sympathy after that
    I had 10% sympathy before she killed Doug/Carley
    even though I killed her dad and never sided with her
  • edited November 2012
    going crazy by losing a loved one would be killing the killer.
    but killing an innocent girl/dude is messed up
    I had no sympathy after that
    I had 10% sympathy before she killed Doug/Carley
    even though I killed her dad and never sided with her

    I never said I was in love with her. So I'm not sure why you are making it appear that way because I showed a bit of sympathy for her? :confused: After the events unfolded at the hotel I quickly lost my sympathy for her. It was completely gone after she killed Carley/Doug.
  • edited November 2012
    lilTomTom wrote: »
    I never said I was in love with her. So I'm not sure why you are making it appear that way because I showed a bit of sympathy for her? :confused: After the events unfolded at the hotel I quickly lost my sympathy for her. It was completely gone after she killed Carley/Doug.

    I'm not saying its bad but in real life I'd be scared to have someone taking out innocent lives
  • fusedmassfusedmass Banned
    edited November 2012
    Dexter-Practically-Perfect-Jennifer-Carpenter-14-10-10-kc.jpg

    Does this look like Lilly? This is from Dexter.

    cast-feature-lilly.png
  • edited November 2012
    fusedmass wrote: »
    Dexter-Practically-Perfect-Jennifer-Carpenter-14-10-10-kc.jpg

    Does this look like Lilly? This is from Dexter.

    cast-feature-lilly.png

    I can kinda see this as Lilly
  • edited November 2012
    fusedmass wrote: »
    Dexter-Practically-Perfect-Jennifer-Carpenter-14-10-10-kc.jpg

    Does this look like Lilly? This is from Dexter.

    cast-feature-lilly.png

    I don't see her shooting someone I care about based on a hunch. I'm gonna have to go with "no".
  • edited November 2012
    I'm not saying its bad but in real life I'd be scared to have someone taking out innocent lives

    If thats the case you should feel the same about Kenny who seems to run away in the face of danger. And when he killed Lily's father?
  • edited November 2012
    lilTomTom wrote: »
    If thats the case you should feel the same about Kenny who seems to run away in the face of danger. And when he killed Lily's father?

    heart attack,no movements at all, zombie virus
  • edited November 2012
    you have sympathy for Lilly?
    Lilly lover alert

    Oh, you hate Lilly because she's mentally unstable, right? ...Go on, Kenny lover :D

    anyway... I neither stopped supporting Lilly and Kenny when they were mentally down. I took Lilly with us, and i am still Kenny's friend ("Friend", he doesn't hate me, but that's all). Edit: I like Lilly, but i agree she was a little lot crazy, dont missunderstand me lol.
  • edited November 2012
    Ghositex wrote: »
    Oh, you hate Lilly because she's mentally unstable, right? ...Go on, Kenny lover :D

    anyway... I neither stopped supporting Lilly and Kenny when they were mentally down. I took Lilly with us, and i am still Kenny's friend ("Friend", he doesn't hate me, but that's all). Edit: I like Lilly, but i agree she was a little lot crazy, dont missunderstand me lol.

    I ain't gay
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