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About the endings *SPOILER*

NiceGuyNiceGuy
edited November 2012 in The Walking Dead
I would love to see lee @ season 2 and it may happpen.
In the endings we dont see him dying, so it could mean, that Clem didnt shoot him, lets say... She shooted in wall. And if u choosed to cut Lees arm, he survived.
If he didnt, he asked for Clem to look for something to cut it off.

I just wanted to get this in here, what do u think? Is it possible?!

P.S. Sory, for my bad english, im from Latvia :D and im really, really BIG fan of TallTales TWD!

Comments

  • DreamjbkDreamjbk
    edited November 2012
    Omg Please don't even start on that.....
  • DreadMagusDreadMagus
    edited November 2012
    Not possible.

    If you don't amputate, he'll die of the bite. It's 100% fatal.

    If you do, I suppose there's a small (as in lottery winning small) chance he'd survive, but we know he lost a lot of blood. And he was too weak to move at the end.

    He's dead. It's the only real option.
  • martymf621martymf621
    edited November 2012
    I completly agree but i kinda feel that the ending showed that Lee completed what he wanted to do to protect Clementine and she needs to find other people or live alone

    what i would think would be interesting if Lees wife is alive and she will take care of clementine
  • martymf621martymf621
    edited November 2012
    No if you read The Walking Dead comic books you know if you amputate the bite you live
  • DreadMagusDreadMagus
    edited November 2012
    IIRC, it also requires a ton of antibiotics.

    Which Lee didn't take. And again, the blood loss.

    Unless there's a way to remove limbs that doesn't involve blood loss and shock and high risk of infection I'm unaware of. Human beings aren't made of LEGOs you know.
  • martymf621martymf621
    edited November 2012
    Yeah youre right thats how Hershel survived by taking antibiotics
  • eblocksonianeblocksonian
    edited November 2012
    DreadMagus wrote: »
    Not possible.

    If you don't amputate, he'll die of the bite. It's 100% fatal.

    If you do, I suppose there's a small (as in lottery winning small) chance he'd survive, but we know he lost a lot of blood. And he was too weak to move at the end.

    He's dead. It's the only real option.
    DreadMagus wrote: »
    IIRC, it also requires a ton of antibiotics.

    Which Lee didn't take. And again, the blood loss.

    Unless there's a way to remove limbs that doesn't involve blood loss and shock and high risk of infection I'm unaware of. Human beings aren't made of LEGOs you know.

    I also want to add, it was a bit late for him to cut his arm. It could have already spread further than expected, and the cutting only delayed the effect, but also exacerbated or created other problems (as you explained already).
  • martymf621martymf621
    edited November 2012
    you need to cut it in the first hour of the bite before it spreads to far
  • DreadMagusDreadMagus
    edited November 2012
    If it's transmitted via his blood, it'd be within minutes, not an hour.

    Doesn't take long for your blood to do a whole circuit through your body.
  • NiceGuyNiceGuy
    edited November 2012
    Yeah, but its game, and as we all know :
    You never know whats going to happen in "The Walking Dead"

    I still hope there is some way / a little chance, that he did survive somehow....
  • MartindnMartindn
    edited November 2012
    I can see it happening with say kenny, but lee? Come on he was about to reanimate, and you hear the gunshot, i want lee to survive as much as anyone but its time to move on.
  • der_ketzerder_ketzer
    edited November 2012
    Martindn wrote: »
    I can see it happening with say kenny, but lee? Come on he was about to reanimate, and you hear the gunshot, i want lee to survive as much as anyone but its time to move on.

    I did not hear a gunshot. :p
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited November 2012
    WRONG FORUM AGAIN. :rolleyes: (...moved.)
  • tavax91tavax91
    edited November 2012
    And there`s my question again:
    I`m not a doctor but why didn`t Lee took antibiotics...i mean look...it worked for Omid even if there wasn`t an amputation but there was an open wound.
  • DildorDildor
    edited November 2012
    Lee was only human.. :(
  • AnTeaAnTea
    edited November 2012
    tavax91 wrote: »
    And there`s my question again:
    I`m not a doctor but why didn`t Lee took antibiotics...i mean look...it worked for Omid even if there wasn`t an amputation but there was an open wound.

    Because they didn't have any antibiotics ? Vernon left with everything, they were surrounded by zombies... They could have done it back to the house if they wouldn't have been attacked.
  • Gman5852Gman5852
    edited November 2012
    martymf621 wrote: »
    No if you read The Walking Dead comic books you know if you amputate the bite you live

    You'd also know that's only worked once total. And has failed EVERY other time
  • MartindnMartindn
    edited November 2012
    der_ketzer wrote: »
    I did not hear a gunshot. :p

    Hmm i could of sworn i heard one, maybe i was wrong. Or did you not get Clementine to shoot? Its assumed if she does not shoot he is left to reanimate. So either way he would be toast.
  • thatleftnutthatleftnut
    edited November 2012
    It takes 20 seconds for a blood cell to circulate through your body, there's no chance amputating did anything.
  • martymf621martymf621
    edited November 2012
    Gman5852 wrote: »
    You'd also know that's only worked once total. And has failed EVERY other time

    yup
  • CerranoCerrano
    edited November 2012
    Gman5852 wrote: »
    You'd also know that's only worked once total. And has failed EVERY other time

    Refresh my memory. They tried it with Allen and Dale. I can't think of anyone else?
  • marcu5marcu5
    edited November 2012
    tavax91 wrote: »
    And there`s my question again:
    I`m not a doctor but why didn`t Lee took antibiotics...i mean look...it worked for Omid even if there wasn`t an amputation but there was an open wound.

    omid wasnt bitten
  • marcu5marcu5
    edited November 2012
    Cerrano wrote: »
    Refresh my memory. They tried it with Allen and Dale. I can't think of anyone else?
    morgan
  • wezzuluswezzulus
    edited November 2012
    marcu5 wrote: »
    omid wasnt bitten
    Remember though, it's not the bite that turns people. Kirkman stated so himself. It's dying that turns people in to zombies. The bite simply leaves an infected wound but doesn't infect the person bitten. If the wound is not properly cleaned or amputated in time they die and turn.
  • AtariusAtarius
    edited November 2012
    wezzulus wrote: »
    Remember though, it's not the bite that turns people. Kirkman stated so himself. It's dying that turns people in to zombies. The bite simply leaves an infected wound but doesn't infect the person bitten. If the wound is not properly cleaned or amputated in time they die and turn.

    Right, iirc there's no confirmation it's a "virus" of any sort. It's more akin atm to human physiology.
  • EDG3EDG3
    edited November 2012
    That is flawed logic in TWD, if the virus gets into the bloodstream(just takes a few secs) once how should amputation matters anyways and if quick amputation like in an hour can work why wouldn't it work after say 10-12 hours?
  • wezzuluswezzulus
    edited November 2012
    EDG3 wrote: »
    That is flawed logic in TWD, if the virus gets into the bloodstream(just takes a few secs) once how should amputation matters anyways and if quick amputation like in an hour can work why wouldn't it work after say 10-12 hours?
    Like I said, the bite doesn't turn people. Everyone is already infected. Dying however turns people. Anything a bite does is leave a highly infected wound that can make someone very ill to the point of dead if not proper treated.
    In case of getting eaten...well...U die that way too so you turn. But the Walker bite doesn't infect a survivor and turn them.
  • EDG3EDG3
    edited November 2012
    wezzulus wrote: »
    Like I said, the bite doesn't turn people. Everyone is already infected. Dying however turns people. Anything a bite does is leave a highly infected wound that can make someone very ill to the point of dead if not proper treated.
    In case of getting eaten...well...U die that way too so you turn. But the Walker bite doesn't infect a survivor and turn them.

    Yes everyone is infected(they will turn no matter how they die unless the brain is squished to a pulp :p), I get that.Now on to the bite, so you mean that the bite is nothing more then a cut/wound/injury and if you got a some medical supplies and disinfectant and stuff, its no issue.Like for eg. Duck ran a fever and was dizzy the whole time and started coughing blood and finally died in a few hours (what kind of infection is that :\ )
  • wobblewobble
    edited November 2012
    Having Lee survive would be a bit of a stretch (the concept of zombies is an even bigger stretch), but, if Molly finds him in time at the Marsh House, she might be able to nurse him back to health (we know resourceful Molly will have antibiotics or know exactly where to find them).
  • wezzuluswezzulus
    edited November 2012
    EDG3 wrote: »
    Yes everyone is infected(they will turn no matter how they die unless the brain is squished to a pulp :p), I get that.Now on to the bite, so you mean that the bite is nothing more then a cut/wound/injury and if you got a some medical supplies and disinfectant and stuff, its no issue.Like for eg. Duck ran a fever and was dizzy the whole time and started coughing blood and finally died in a few hours (what kind of infection is that :\ )

    It's the infection only Walker bites cause. The bite doesn't turn people, but it does kill them. It leaves a highly infected wound that makes the person very ill, but it's not the virus that does it. I don't think it's know for sure yet that when it does get treated properly, you wont die. Since never in the show/comics/games did they really have the means to treat a bite next to amputation. And even then to heal/fix the amputated limb will be hard.
  • voodoohandbagvoodoohandbag
    edited November 2012
    I'm very happy to think of Lee as dead, same as how I'd have hated for the 'revive Aerith' theories to be true. Lee had to die, and if he somehow lived, it'd cheapen the entire game, as well as the entire TWD franchise - I don't believe anybody has ever been bitten, left for dead and suddenly returned.

    Lee sacrificed his own needs to help Clem grow strong. I'm sad he died, but glad too, as the story couldn't have ended any other way. He was a hero, let him rest now.
  • multicoltmulticolt
    edited November 2012
    hate to point this out but if you chose to cut his arm off he didn't die from the bite assuming you didn't git bit from the hoard. from the looks of if it was a infection mixed with blood loss. going through the hoard low on blood extremely exhausts the body of energy,that and from the look of his eyes he was succumbing to infection. this explains why he could not move by the end of the game. there is no way to live through that hes dead sadly. the other outcome would be from the zombie bite. if he did live that would surprising. the odds of that are like winning the lottery 5 times in a row. its not going to happen.
  • CerranoCerrano
    edited November 2012
    marcu5 wrote: »
    morgan

    Ah, that's right. Thanks
  • marcu5marcu5
    edited November 2012
    wezzulus wrote: »
    Remember though, it's not the bite that turns people. Kirkman stated so himself. It's dying that turns people in to zombies. The bite simply leaves an infected wound but doesn't infect the person bitten. If the wound is not properly cleaned or amputated in time they die and turn.

    are you new to this? the bite is lethal. consider it independent of the infection. if you get bit by those bacteria ridden zombie teeth, you are going to die.
  • anonymau5anonymau5
    edited November 2012
    DreadMagus wrote: »
    If it's transmitted via his blood, it'd be within minutes, not an hour.

    Doesn't take long for your blood to do a whole circuit through your body.

    Actually, for an average man like Lee, his blood would be pumped through his body twice in a minute.
  • bazenjibazenji
    edited November 2012
    Two points.

    1) The virus doesn't kill you, the virus brings you back to life.

    2) Sepsis from the filthy human mouth amplified by decaying flesh kills you. And then the virus brings you back to life.

    That's it. Doesn't matter how many times a zombie bites you if you can stop the blood infection from killing you. But this is a world without antibiotics, listerine, and hand soap. Most people in the Civil War died from infection, not bullet wounds remember.
  • marcu5marcu5
    edited November 2012
    bazenji wrote: »
    Two points.

    1) The virus doesn't kill you, the virus brings you back to life.

    2) Sepsis from the filthy human mouth amplified by decaying flesh kills you. And then the virus brings you back to life.

    That's it. Doesn't matter how many times a zombie bites you if you can stop the blood infection from killing you. But this is a world without antibiotics, listerine, and hand soap. Most people in the Civil War died from infection, not bullet wounds remember.

    thank you for explaining it, because im tired of doing it.
  • KingOfTheDeadKingOfTheDead
    edited November 2012
    all they had to do was burn the cut it would have closed up the wound plus that whiskey could have been used for antibiotics.
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