Carley & Doug: Easy & Hard Mode
I realized that the game is "better" in a sense when Carley is around, and that Episode 2 and 3 are easier because of her. My reasons?
Carley: Easy mode
-In Episode 2, you get attacked by an undead Travis/David. With Carley around, she will shoot the walker in the head
-In Episode 3, you get the chance to interact with Carley to the point where she can give you a kiss on the cheek, lifting your hopes and spirits.
-In the bandit raid in Episode 3, when the walkers begin to attack, Carley will assist you in taking them out.
-In Episode 3, she also gives you the chance to tell the others about your past, which makes them respect you more.
Doug: Hard mode
-In Episode 2, you get attacked by an undead Travis/David. With Doug around, he will attempt to hit the walker in the head with a plank of wood. It doesn't have much affect and you have to deal with it yourself until Larry/Mark takes it out.
-In Episode 3, you get the chance to interact with Doug. He will tell you that he feels completely useless, which in my case, made me kind of sad.
-In Episode 3, when the bandits raid, Doug will warn you about the incoming walkers, and not wanting to waste any bullets, stays in the RV. That leaves Lee to take them out.
-You saved Doug. He doesn't know about your past. Therefore everybody is taken by surprise when Lilly rats you out.
I feel like Telltale unintentionally made the game harder for those who picked Doug. Funny thing is, most people picked Carley.
Carley: Easy mode
-In Episode 2, you get attacked by an undead Travis/David. With Carley around, she will shoot the walker in the head
-In Episode 3, you get the chance to interact with Carley to the point where she can give you a kiss on the cheek, lifting your hopes and spirits.
-In the bandit raid in Episode 3, when the walkers begin to attack, Carley will assist you in taking them out.
-In Episode 3, she also gives you the chance to tell the others about your past, which makes them respect you more.
Doug: Hard mode
-In Episode 2, you get attacked by an undead Travis/David. With Doug around, he will attempt to hit the walker in the head with a plank of wood. It doesn't have much affect and you have to deal with it yourself until Larry/Mark takes it out.
-In Episode 3, you get the chance to interact with Doug. He will tell you that he feels completely useless, which in my case, made me kind of sad.
-In Episode 3, when the bandits raid, Doug will warn you about the incoming walkers, and not wanting to waste any bullets, stays in the RV. That leaves Lee to take them out.
-You saved Doug. He doesn't know about your past. Therefore everybody is taken by surprise when Lilly rats you out.
I feel like Telltale unintentionally made the game harder for those who picked Doug. Funny thing is, most people picked Carley.
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I liked Carley a lot more then Doug.
That's so hilarious xD
Carley also defends Ben x10 more and calls Lilly a scared little girl, and that she needs to get the fuck over it. That made me laugh my ass off.
and that was why she deserved to get shot. I saved doug and he is right that it was a bit more challenging but telltale made the choice completely stupid as they gave people who saved carely a chance to tell everyone about lee's past and gain everyones respect. I feel like they really didnt let doug assist the other players like those who immediatley went for the pretty girl with the gun(campman was right).
Who'd be more useful in a zombie apocalypse?
Carly: Female, able to use a gun and get nice headshots and has good points.
Doug: ..Nerdy technician guy.
Hell you didn't even get the option to give Doug an energy bar from my understanding (unless you can do it while you're outside the pharmacy with him?). Don't get me wrong, Doug is a nice guy and I love his archetype (the unexpected hero type) but there's so many reasons to choose Carley. Even after episode 1 you get more options with her with a romance developing and you're given the chance to tell others about your past.
Only reason why someone would chose Doug over Carley, from my understanding, is if you:
A. Wanted to keep your past a secret from others
B. You thought she was a complete idiot because she didn't know how to work batteries
C. You can relate to Doug and his archetype
D. You wanted to be anti-mainstream
I'm interested to know, why did some of you choose Doug? I'm not bashing you, I'm just interested to know your reasons.
E. You thought that his understanding of technology would be more useful in a ZA because it's harder to teach than a sharpshooter.
F. He goes out a million times more heroic than Carly.
G. Fat people scarfing biscuits down never gets old.
H. He had a Beer T-shirt on, insta-win in my book.
(Bear + Deer)
I agree with everything you said, except that. Doug defended Ben with his life, he took a damn bullet for him!
Although Carley died a badass ("you think you're some tough bitch...")... Doug died a hero. True facts.
Aww come on now, don't be bitter because Doug had no real use in this game.
I do find it strange they gave Carley a much more important role than him, seeing as they stated they were trying to avoid situations where one decision was far more useful than it's alternative.
Doug and Carley should have both been on the first episodes title screen.
I thought Carley was a bit of a bitch tbh. Well or maybe I was just an ass to her. Either way Doug was a cool guy through and through.
Eh, it was in the heat of the moment. I turned to Doug first.
On related note, I think the developers expected people to pick Doug, because Carley knew your secret. But I think they underestimated gamers initial ideals to "SAVE DA GIRL!!1" and "SHE SHOOTS!!1 SHE SCORES!!1".
As for the secret, considering how many people revealed the bite that Lee had, it shouldn't be surprising the same group of people also were willing to save the person that knew their secret, and vice-versa.
1: there were about three zombies grabbing him trough a window, he was defenceless
2: Carley was grabbed by one zombie, and proved that she is a badass.
3: I really didn't think one zombie would kill Carley
"You think you are some tough bitch but you're nothing but a scared little girl."
That line always made me laugh... until random headshot occurred.
Remember this same person with the gun couldn't figure out how batteries worked :L
Thing is a tech guy like Doug would be useful for hotwiring cars or helping to set up small circuit grids for supplying power to an area or a house your fortified in and you can always teach someone how to shoot but you can't teach someone how to use a lot of tech.
I think of it more as a lot of players in the heat of the moment chose Carly because
1. She's a women, women and children first probably kicked in.
2. She has a gun which was more likely to help your situation to get out of the pharmacy.
3. She could have possibly saved Doug afterwards.
People more likely saved her for those options at the time but in retrospect Doug would have been a more useful member to the group later but at the time no one thought
"Hmm I wonder if Doug would be more useful later on IF we get out of here alive" what a lot of players thought was
"Hmm I wonder who is more likely TO GET us out of here alive, unarmed guy trapped by 3 zombies or an armed girl only being held by 1."
Doug needed to have a lot more screen time if Telltale wanted that choice to be close.They didn't have to make Doug the sharpshooter but perhaps he could of been the one to go with Lee and Glenn while Carley acted as the lookout.Carley had a lot more screen time and aspects for the player to bond with.
Did they really expect that Carley knowing the truth would be a bigger factor by making players deciding to be ruthless and let Carley die just to prevent Lee's secret getting out?
I really liked Doug but I have to admit a part of me chose him because I definitely knew which way that statistic was going and I wanted my game to be differnt to the majority.
"Boobs or a fat nerd"
For some maybe but I've noticed that a lot of female players chose Carley too.I think a big part of it is that Carley had a lot more dialogue and interactions with Lee but I'll admit the gun and the possibility of a future romance/SEX! probably played their part too.
If Doug was the news reporter and Carley was IT guy, I would have saved Doug
Are you telling me u wouldnt want the stu pickles of the ZA?
F. ? Carley stands up for herself and another person by standing up to Lilly, something Doug could have never done.
Well, I'm female, and I chose Doug.
I liked that Carly came out of the pharmacy to save our group when we first arrived, and saved Clementine from the bathroom walker.
I didn't like anything else about her. She seemed dumb and absolutely helpless without her gun. She seemed to like putting the men in charge, even when they had not proven anything to her as far as what skills they brought. So I considered her weak, and she proved me right when she was attacked by only one walker; no gun, no resourcefulness. She didn't for a second seem like a future romantic interest for Lee; he was a mature bad ass (even with the clumsiness), and she was a weak girl.
Meanwhile, Carly told you that Doug had saved her, so you knew he was brave. He stayed calm while other people in the group went off on each other, which I found to be a very important quality. I thought his tech qualities might come in handy, if we ever had the place and equipment for solar power. I had summed up who was best and worst for the group long before the choice had to be made, so it was easy to save Doug.
I'd rather have Doug and Carley take care of Clem
Doug was a smart nerdy Guy and saved Carley (Before Episode 1) so he deserved it.
And everbody can learn to handle a gun...even Clem.
To be honest Doug really didn't have a chance with most fans based off episode 1.
Let's look at the facts in episode 1, Carley saves you what like 2 or three times. You spend more time with her, and despite knowing your past is willing to keep it a secret. Also you go out in a pretty neat rescue mission with her and Glenn. Players have more time to connect with her. Episode one was pretty much pro-Carley
That's the reason why I saved Carley in my first playthrough. I was pleasantly surprised with Doug later on.
I don't really like how some people believe the only reason people save Carley is because she's an attractive woman. I honestly chose her because you get so much more time to develop a relationship with her in episode 1 and she honestly appeared as a more important character than Doug. Don't get me wrong, I love Doug but really in episode 1 he was just kind of... there. He didn't really do much except turn on some TVs and yell at me to hurry up when I was talking to my bro. The only time I genuinely liked Doug, in episode 1, was when he said:
"Lee, if we don't get out of this I want you to know, I think you're a great guy."
If you ask me, I think you should've been able to pick Carley or Doug to come with you to help Glenn.