Whos to say that **** is even dead?

edited April 2013 in The Walking Dead
I know the game wants you to think hes dead and the developers have 1 "true" ending that they have to build off of. What if Lee was just bleeding out and was weak and passed out from loss of blood? Its possible he could regain consciousness and find a way out. The loss of blood would make his character appear weak and pale just like the bite would. He was also never bit or w.e. he claims but the walker scratched him with his teeth. I think him not being dead is a possibility for season 2.

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  • edited March 2013
    He's dead Jim.
  • edited March 2013
    He passes out before he can cut his arm off, so that means the infection has already spread and is taking effect = too late. Even if he did die from blood loss, it doesn't matter because the infection was still there to finish him off otherwise.

    I think scratches are just as deadly as bites, but I'm not sure. If it draws blood, you're done.
  • edited March 2013
    I'm not too sure. In my opinion, it could go either way. I'm forced to weigh that Lee is dead. However, I think there is a chance he could be alive. You don't know that, Mornai, just saying. Lee could have passed out in the morgue and in the store for reasons other than the bite. I'm just not sure though.
  • edited March 2013
    The guy has green-yellow-ish eyes, he's either dead by Clem's headshot, or a walker if she either left him, or missed the shot. There might be a slight chance, but TTG would need a damn well excuse for him being alive, and I don't see a chance for him to be, if anyone does, please let me know.
  • edited March 2013
    It wouldnt be from a walker cause he was in a secure location. I mean zombies are a pretty far stretch of the imagination and theyre in the game. We can stretch our mind even further and Lee might live. I just cant see them having Clem be the main PC next season.
  • edited March 2013
    The passing out and weakness can be explained away from Blood loss, shock from believing he is as good as dead and stress from Clem being kidnapped. Also, the weakness that takes him after the Hotel can could be from over exertion from the mad killing spree he goes on outside, and if he did catch something from the bite, the symptoms can caused by the body attempting to 'fight off' the disease, so it doesn't mean that it was killing him. In the end he could have passed out, giving the body time to get over the disease, shock and exhaustion he was suffering from, and hey presto! A living, breathing Lee! Thats one way they could explain Lee being alive, but he's probably just dead.
  • edited March 2013
    Well... Lee could have suffered a concussion from that glass. It almost knocked him out the first time. Also, his eyes did look yellowish, but why was that? The makers of the game really can do whatever they want to Lee, it doesn't mean they were yellow due to turning. And in the game, the zombies have clear eyes.

    Also, when he first faints, he hadn't really been sleeping since the motor inn, and he was dealing with much stress and exhaustion, as well as starvation and dehydration.

    Then he can suffer from severe blood loss by the time of the store. Also, who really knows what he got in him from all that walker dust?
  • edited March 2013
    Well, i hope that he's alive. He could just pass out from blood loss... Or be dreaming...
  • edited March 2013
    I know the game wants you to think hes dead and the developers have 1 "true" ending that they have to build off of. What if Lee was just bleeding out and was weak and passed out from loss of blood? Its possible he could regain consciousness and find a way out. The loss of blood would make his character appear weak and pale just like the bite would. He was also never bit or w.e. he claims but the walker scratched him with his teeth. I think him not being dead is a possibility for season 2.

    Yeah no he's dead. Why in the world do you want to make the ending terrible people? Do you even know what Walking Dead is about? I'll give you a hint. No one being safe. Bites are fatal, and if for whatever reason you think otherwise, Clementime SHOT HIM for the most of the people.

    He is dead, get over it. Quit trying to ruin a good ending and making a character be driven to the ground to the point of being unlikable.
  • edited March 2013
    Mark$man wrote: »
    I'm not too sure. In my opinion, it could go either way. I'm forced to weigh that Lee is dead. However, I think there is a chance he could be alive. You don't know that, Mornai, just saying. Lee could have passed out in the morgue and in the store for reasons other than the bite. I'm just not sure though.

    Well, what did he pass out from? Did he do a damsel-in-distress faint because the situation was so dire? :p
  • edited March 2013
    Well TT said he's dead, so...
  • edited March 2013
    WTF Jake said he died lol, no need for those threads :c
  • edited March 2013
    Lee is dead. My Lee kept his arm, never got cut/bitten/shot during all of Episode 5. His only wound was the (small) BITE from the end of Episode 4. The only way he could have been bleeding, was from said BITE, which was probably scabbed over by the time they got to the morgue. Keep Lee's arm, and take a nice look at it in the attic. His arm is turning pale and you can see his veins. That would be the bite mojo spreading from the bite to the rest of him. Lee was dead by the time they got to the morgue. The bite had spread too far already. He won't come back... well, not if you had Clem shoot him at least.
  • edited March 2013
    Well that is your Lee, Rock lol. And who knows Mornai xD
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited March 2013
    http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?p=736301#post736301

    This is where Jake actually confirmed that Lee_is_dead.

    For such avid fans of the franchise, I am completely puzzled by how you can continuously not understand how The Walking Dead tries to get its kicks:
    By KILLING MAIN CHARACTERS.
    :o
  • edited March 2013
    Yeah, I read it. But I don't trust what I haven't seen, so show him as a walker :P Then I will believe it.
  • edited March 2013
    Everyone except Clem, Christa, Omid, Lilly and Molly are dead.
  • edited March 2013
    Virtumonde wrote: »
    Everyone except Clem, Christa, Omid, Lilly and Molly are dead.

    We shall see.
  • edited March 2013
    Mark$man wrote: »
    Well that is your Lee, Rock lol. And who knows Mornai xD

    That may have been MY Lee, but my Lee was pretty much in the exact same state as everyone elses by the end. Pale, yellow eyed, unable to move, barely able to walk. Lee is either dead, or undead. There is no way he could have survived. The devs have even confirmed he is dead.

    @Virt: You forgot Kenny. He MIGHT have made it.
  • edited March 2013
    Rock114 wrote: »
    That may have been MY Lee, but my Lee was pretty much in the exact same state as everyone elses by the end. Pale, yellow eyed, unable to move, barely able to walk. Lee is either dead, or undead. There is no way he could have survived. The devs have even confirmed he is dead.

    @Virt: You forgot Kenny. He MIGHT have made it.

    Pretty sure Kenny is dead aswell, since you can give him an additional bullet. One for Ben, and one for Himself.
  • edited March 2013
    Nothing is certain in my book. Anything that is not seen and proven is not a fact. It may be a theory, a hypothesis, or the like... but it is not forseen. If they really want to or it is necessary, I could see them bringing him back. I can't argue it looks like he will die/is dead, but I despise those who simply assume the worst. In the comics and in the show, there are times where the near impossible happen. If there is a possibility of the zombie apocalypse, then so is there that Lee might actually live. I did not say he was alive, and I know what Telltale has said about Lee's status, but I like to see with my own eyes, or make my own conclusion. I respect your thoughts, so respect mine.

    And Kenny might have survived, although it seems less likely as time goes on, for Gavin Hammon hasn't said anything on being brought back to work for telltale or anything. I suppose we'll see.
  • edited March 2013
    Mark$man wrote: »
    Nothing is certain in my book. Anything that is not seen and proven is not a fact. It may be a theory, a hypothesis, or the like... but it is not forseen. If they really want to or it is necessary, I could see them bringing him back. I can't argue it looks like he will die/is dead, but I despise those who simply assume the worst. In the comics and in the show, there are times where the near impossible happen. If there is a possibility of the zombie apocalypse, then so is there that Lee might actually live. I did not say he was alive, and I know what Telltale has said about Lee's status, but I like to see with my own eyes, or make my own conclusion. I respect your thoughts, so respect mine.

    And Kenny might have survived, although it seems less likely as time goes on, for Gavin Hammon hasn't said anything on being brought back to work for telltale or anything. I suppose we'll see.

    I hope Lee is still alive somehow, although I would be surprised if they decided to do that. Kenny could be alive; walking dead characters have survived worse, so it's possible.
  • edited March 2013
    For such avid fans of the franchise, I am completely puzzled by how you can continuously not understand how The Walking Dead tries to get its kicks:
    By KILLING MAIN CHARACTERS.
    :o

    Let's just hope they don't kill Clementine as well D:
  • edited March 2013
    AnnaSan wrote: »
    Let's just hope they don't kill Clementine as well D:

    word
  • edited April 2013
    Rock114 wrote: »
    That may have been MY Lee, but my Lee was pretty much in the exact same state as everyone elses by the end. Pale, yellow eyed, unable to move, barely able to walk. Lee is either dead, or undead. There is no way he could have survived. The devs have even confirmed he is dead.

    @Virt: You forgot Kenny. He MIGHT have made it.

    I give Kenny 95% that he's dead.
    Because there is a somewhat hidden dialogue, when you are at the house in ep5 taking the last stand and counting your bullets. You can actually not shoot the bullets and later on you will be given an option to give them to Kenny in the alleyway (if you saved Ben). If you give him the bullets lee can say something along these lines when he is speaking to Christa "He took Ben out and then himself".

    IMO if he survived somehow, he's most likely bitten... And in the attic Kenny said if he would have been bitten he probably wouldn't tell anyone.
  • edited April 2013
    He could have jumped through a window, in both scenes, you don't get a good look at the alleyway, nor at the room, so I'm not too certain about his death, it's likely, but I don't believe things that haven't been either confirmed by the creators themselves (Lee's death) or I saw myself. The camera was placed where it was for a reason, don't you all think?
    It certainly was not because it could have been too disturbing or brutal, we saw enough crazy, disgusting shit by that point to tell it wasn't for that reason, and we heard no death screams, if they would have torn him apart, believe me, he would have screamed like crazy, as it has to be canon, he didn't take himself out even if he had 2 or more bullets.
  • edited April 2013
    I'd say 95% odds of being dead are good. I certainly HOPE he lived, but I'm leaning more toward dead. Maybe because I don't want to get my hopes up. But, hey, Gavin Hammon actually said to keep hope alive, so I'm not writing Kenny off completely.

    That's not like Lee's death, which was confirmed by the devs. Lee won't be coming back... well, I guess he WILL come back, but that's only if you didn't make Clem shoot him...
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