Please tell me that we are getting an entirely new cast in Season 2

edited April 2013 in The Walking Dead
Please, no more Clementine. Besides, even if she is in season 2(Which she probably will be.....sigh), she wouldn't be the same, assuming she's a realistic character, some of the traits that you guys adored about her so much will probably be absent.

You liked the fact that you had a strong bond with her. That will be absent because I doubt she'll bond with anybody else like she did with Lee. Heck, it MIGHT have been possible with Ben because she liked Ben prior but wait...Ben's dead. aw well.

People liked how Clementine was optimistic. I doubt she'll be hopeful anymore, after losing her parents and Lee and everyone else

People liked how sweet and innocent Clementine was, well, she isn't so sweet and innocent anymore.

Sure, she'll still possess some of her good traits. Like her maturity, but honestly, Is Clementine that great that SHE HAS TO BE IN SEASON 2?, because honestly, I don't and I think season 2 would do just fine with an entirely new cast

My 2 cents

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  • edited April 2013
    What about other characters? Seems like your main grip is with Clementine. I am curious as to where Christa and Omid went. There's also Molly and even Kenny for the Kenny is still alive fans. I definitely want to see Christa and Omid just because Lee tried to arrange for them to group up with Clem. They also have a lot of potential since they haven't a lot of screen time in season 1, but enough was developed to make their arcs interesting. I don't think we should play as them, but I do hope they will have a role in season 2 beyond a cameo.

    As for Clem, I don't think people simply want to see her because she's supposedly optimistic, sweet, and innocent. Rather, Clem more or less represents the sum of our actions in the last game. Did we try to harden her? Protect her innocence? In other words, did we prepare her for life after Lee well? I think that's why it will be good to see Clem in season 2 just so we can see this legacy.
  • edited April 2013
    double_u wrote: »
    What about other characters? Seems like your main grip is with Clementine. I am curious as to where Christa and Omid went. There's also Molly and even Kenny for the Kenny is still alive fans. I definitely want to see Christa and Omid just because Lee tried to arrange for them to group up with Clem. They also have a lot of potential since they haven't a lot of screen time in season 1, but enough was developed to make their arcs interesting. I don't think we should play as them, but I do hope they will have a role in season 2 beyond a cameo.

    As for Clem, I don't think people simply want to see her because she's supposedly optimistic, sweet, and innocent. Rather, Clem more or less represents the sum of our actions in the last game. Did we try to harden her? Protect her innocence? In other words, did we prepare her for life after Lee well? I think that's why it will be good to see Clem in season 2 just so we can see this legacy.

    But you always get the same ending no matter what you do, you can treat Clementine like absolute crap(what little option there is to do so throughout the game) and not teach her anything(Although you are forced to teach her how to use a gun, can't decide for yourself) and she'll still bawl when you are about to die and still make it out of savannah

    I didn't feel like my choices impacted much of anything. Based on just this game alone, Season 2 is not out yet so we won't know if our choices even matter

    anyway, the other characters that you mentioned, I don't really care about them. Except Kenny, but he's dead
  • edited April 2013
    Why would they show Clem by herself and spotting 2 figures on the hill and put a whole new cast. We are most likelly going to see clem grow up into her older years mature and see some characters from season 1 like Omid and Christa maybe Kenny and Molly and hopefully Lee because if you chose to shoot Lee she goes to the right abit just before she shoots and if that truly happened then maybe Lee stopped the bite from killing him and passed out from blood loss. #Excited
  • edited April 2013
    Lee's dead. Get over it.
  • edited April 2013
    Tazzle27 wrote: »
    People liked how Clementine was optimistic. I doubt she'll be hopeful anymore, after losing her parents and Lee and everyone else

    That's exactly what makes her a more willing and decisive character. Being able to shoot Lee in the head and killing the stranger is going to make her a stronger person, thus being harder to break her. And with all the things that she learned from Lee and from her own experiences(not completely trusting strangers being one of them,) She'll definitely think and use reason before she does anything that might cause her problems in the future. If there is anybody who should definitely still be in season 2 is Clementine, of course.
  • edited April 2013
    Cotterell wrote: »
    Why would they show Clem by herself and spotting 2 figures on the hill and put a whole new cast. We are most likelly going to see clem grow up into her older years mature and see some characters from season 1 like Omid and Christa maybe Kenny and Molly and hopefully Lee because if you chose to shoot Lee she goes to the right abit just before she shoots and if that truly happened then maybe Lee stopped the bite from killing him and passed out from blood loss. #Excited

    Because of people like you, I am inclined to believe Lee is overrated. Is he a good character? yes, but you people are being ridiculous when it comes to Lee. He's dead. Gone. Get over it.
  • edited April 2013
    Hey, hey, hey! I for one am not exaggerated, I just feel no one should count their chickens before they hatch. I've defended lee being alive, but I think Lee and Kenny are dead. However, never are their bodies seen dead. Lee looked to have fainted; I've never seen a bitten just fall over dead. They usually go unconscious like Duck. I don't know... But I mean people liked Lee, he was an awesome character man. They'll believe what they want, and then when we see Lee as a walker or somehow dead at that store, then you can just rip em all off, me too if ya want. I've assumed too much someone is dead, do I'm just done assuming. I just want to wait until I see the body.

    I think I'd be more surprised than most if lee actually did survive. Kenny too, really. But I just choose not to label anyone anything until I actually see it. So maybe others feel the same, or they are just really slow in their five stages of grief lol. But yeah, you shouldn't get mad that people like Lee that much, if they want to be in denial, let em'. Hope is never bad :P
  • edited April 2013
    This poster is an idiot for the post title and his rant about a child! I hope to hell your NOT a parent!!
  • edited April 2013
    Tazzle27 wrote: »
    Because of people like you, I am inclined to believe Lee is overrated. Is he a good character? yes, but you people are being ridiculous when it comes to Lee. He's dead. Gone. Get over it.

    How about no.
  • edited April 2013
    @ClemOwnedYou that is definitely true; I don't understand how people can feel that way about a little girl.

    @Corcline27 Amen!
  • edited April 2013
    Corcline27 wrote: »
    How about no.

    Telltale even clarified he died, what more proof do you need?

    It's good that Lee died, your guys obsession with him is scary. Same for Clementine
  • edited April 2013
    Mark$man wrote: »
    @ClemOwnedYou that is definitely true; I don't understand how people can feel that way about a little girl.

    @Corcline27 Amen!

    You are blowing this out of proportion. I just don't want to look after Clementine yet again, if they wanted us to continue looking after her, they should have kept Lee alive for Season 2.

    my point is that it would be stupid if after everything Clem and Lee go through in the first game, they just throw another protagonist in place of lee and expect to get the same emotional investment. You cant expect Clementine to just forget about Lee because some new person arrived, it would make the first game lose all feeling
  • edited April 2013
    ^The fact that he makes the player feel like they are living the game(so to speak), that he can be relatable for many aspects to the person. Also, just because he is so spread out, and still the same. He can be the biggest asshole in the world, the nicest guy you'd ever meet, a quiet and anti-social man, or one that always has to get his say; yet he stays the same: He cares about a little girl who he can see as his own, he becomes friends with one who lost as much as he had, he goes through many hardships and faces many mistakes, he seems to show much regret in his life, and he is badass as slaying zombies.

    He is no superhuman with infinite ammo that can lose the person closest to him and just keep running, some machine that's sole purpose is to kill walkers; he acts human. Despite being in a video game, his character has no inhumane perspective; he cannot take a wound and act like it is nothing, he feels pain and shows it, he actually displays emotions and portrays them well, and he feels like he is just a normal man that got put through hell.

    I've never seen him 'crack' under pressure, and he has always done good for the group. He has shown great wisdom by all his knowledge, and even Kenny calls him "the smartest fucker of us" at the morgue. He takes the pain of losing his arm or being bitten and slowly turning regardless and maybe a shot to the chest and further bites, and still goes to save someone he has no relation to.

    It isn't the fact he looks after a little girl, but how he does it. He actually CARES about her. She isn't family, yet he risks his life multiple times for her safety and well-being, has gone without so she can have, has sacrificed himself so she can live on. That, I think, is what made people cry to such an extent. It wasn't the fact that Lee was just dying, or that Clem was alone. It was just that he had given everything for her; food, clothing, taught her, saved her life over and over, and when he had to lost his life to save her from the Stranger. That took heroism and courage, and he was no magical creature; he is dead. He didn't care what it took; he just wanted Clementine back. His actions and such represented an actual father to his daughter, and it was touching. Now, Clem would be left alone, now that Lee's job was done.

    Lee had his redemption, and he did his time. He saved many lives, and ended other's. He protected a girl that wasn't his, but cared for and loved her nonetheless. He prepared her for the worst, and even taught her one last lesson with his death; not to be afraid. That no matter the horrors to come, she will now be ready to face him. That same girl that would have died in that tree house survived and was now on her own. She lost her parents and guardian in less than maybe 15 minutes.

    So yeah, Lee was and is awesome. He is one of my favorite characters.
  • edited April 2013
    Tazzle27 wrote: »
    You are blowing this out of proportion. I just don't want to look after Clementine yet again, if they wanted us to continue looking after her, they should have kept Lee alive for Season 2.

    my point is that it would be stupid if after everything Clem and Lee go through in the first game, they just throw another protagonist in place of lee and expect to get the same emotional investment. You cant expect Clementine to just forget about Lee because some new person arrived, it would make the first game lose all feeling

    Yeah, I understand what you are coming from. I just don't care if I had to look after Clem again, since she is an awesome character too. But I understand the Lee part, that if he dies another character just shouldn't replace him.
  • edited April 2013
    Mark$man wrote: »
    ^The fact that he makes the player feel like they are living the game(so to speak), that he can be relatable for many aspects to the person. Also, just because he is so spread out, and still the same. He can be the biggest asshole in the world, the nicest guy you'd ever meet, a quiet and anti-social man, or one that always has to get his say; yet he stays the same: He cares about a little girl who he can see as his own, he becomes friends with one who lost as much as he had, he goes through many hardships and faces many mistakes, he seems to show much regret in his life, and he is badass as slaying zombies.

    He is no superhuman with infinite ammo that can lose the person closest to him and just keep running, some machine that's sole purpose is to kill walkers; he acts human. Despite being in a video game, his character has no inhumane perspective; he cannot take a wound and act like it is nothing, he feels pain and shows it, he actually displays emotions and portrays them well, and he feels like he is just a normal man that got put through hell.

    I've never seen him 'crack' under pressure, and he has always done good for the group. He has shown great wisdom by all his knowledge, and even Kenny calls him "the smartest fucker of us" at the morgue. He takes the pain of losing his arm or being bitten and slowly turning regardless and maybe a shot to the chest and further bites, and still goes to save someone he has no relation to.

    It isn't the fact he looks after a little girl, but how he does it. He actually CARES about her. She isn't family, yet he risks his life multiple times for her safety and well-being, has gone without so she can have, has sacrificed himself so she can live on. That, I think, is what made people cry to such an extent. It wasn't the fact that Lee was just dying, or that Clem was alone. It was just that he had given everything for her; food, clothing, taught her, saved her life over and over, and when he had to lost his life to save her from the Stranger. That took heroism and courage, and he was no magical creature; he is dead. He didn't care what it took; he just wanted Clementine back. His actions and such represented an actual father to his daughter, and it was touching. Now, Clem would be left alone, now that Lee's job was done.

    Lee had his redemption, and he did his time. He saved many lives, and ended other's. He protected a girl that wasn't his, but cared for and loved her nonetheless. He prepared her for the worst, and even taught her one last lesson with his death; not to be afraid. That no matter the horrors to come, she will now be ready to face him. That same girl that would have died in that tree house survived and was now on her own. She lost her parents and guardian in less than maybe 15 minutes.

    So yeah, Lee was and is awesome. He is one of my favorite characters.


    Well, I gotta hand it to you, you explained your position on Lee pretty well, I cannot counter this. Well done.

    But you guys need to get over that he's gone now.
  • edited April 2013
    LOL. Idk man, I just don't want to say what isn't true. I think he is dead, but it isn't set in stone. In TWD universe, seeing is believing. Noone is dead until their body is found, not breathing. Noone is alive until they are seen again, up and running about(NO WALKING :S).
    Telltale can say whatever they want, but if they really want to, they could bring Lee back, considering they had the savestates working or decided to change the canon with the interqual. For example: The game Lilly and comics Lilly were mean't to be the same person, but Kirkman changed that, so they are now seperate characters. So nothing is true until it is seen. Sorry man :P Just as Kenny, Molly, Vernon's crew, people of Crawford, Lilly, and Christa and Omid are unknown, to me so is Lee :P Once I see the body, then laugh at me. I really wouldn't mind, but I won't say he's dead or undead or alive until I see it myself lol.
  • edited April 2013
    how about this guys...........Lee doesn't show up at the start of season 2 when Clem finds O & C ,season 2 brings in new characters,people die,people live,at the end who appears in the coutryside field??? a dark character alone in the distance,Clem squints her eyes....SEASON 3!!!!! (p.s. it's Lee) TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
  • edited April 2013
    Clemmy1 wrote: »
    how about this guys...........Lee doesn't show up at the start of season 2 when Clem finds O & C ,season 2 brings in new characters,people die,people live,at the end who appears in the coutryside field??? a dark character alone in the distance,Clem squints her eyes....SEASON 3!!!!! (p.s. it's Lee) TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

    WINNING! 10/10 for you! GOTY!
  • edited April 2013
    I just hope season 2 doesn't start months or years later after episode 5. I didn't even like the 3 month gap between episode 1 and 2.
  • edited April 2013
    ^Me either man.
  • edited April 2013
    "she wouldn't be the same, assuming she's a realistic character, some of the traits that you guys adored about her so much will probably be absent" SAD THING IS, I DON'T THINK THEY WILL MAKE HER REALISTIC!!
  • edited April 2013
    Tazzle27 wrote: »
    because of people like you, i am inclined to believe lee is overrated. Is he a good character? Yes, but you people are being ridiculous when it comes to lee. He's dead. Gone. Get over it.

    lee is a badass, clem is overrated.
  • edited April 2013
    Tazzle27 wrote: »
    You are blowing this out of proportion. I just don't want to look after Clementine yet again, if they wanted us to continue looking after her, they should have kept Lee alive for Season 2.

    my point is that it would be stupid if after everything Clem and Lee go through in the first game, they just throw another protagonist in place of lee and expect to get the same emotional investment. You cant expect Clementine to just forget about Lee because some new person arrived, it would make the first game lose all feeling
    Damn, someone with common sense.
  • edited April 2013
    lee is a badass, clem is overrated.

    Hmm...
    Mornai wrote: »
    Alright, we've got extreme hatred for Lilly, Larry, Omid, Christa & Kenny. Halfway there, folks! :p

    Suppose i can add Clementine to that list. :p
  • edited April 2013
    Yeah. They hate the 2 main characters that make the game what it is. Without Lee and Clem the game doesn't work. Would you not buy season 2 if you knew Clem would be in it? Of course you will. Haters.
  • edited April 2013
    If we see Clem again in the new season, then sooner or later they will show her death. I prefer never see Clem again, but to know that she's safe and she's all right. Think about it.
    I partially agree with the author.
  • edited April 2013
    I would, because I am a fan of Walking dead, but I'd be upset bout not having Clem in it :/
    Clem is overrated? She's nine, she was 8 for most of the game! Jesus...
  • edited April 2013
    Tazzle27 wrote: »
    my point is that it would be stupid if after everything Clem and Lee go through in the first game, they just throw another protagonist in place of lee and expect to get the same emotional investment. You cant expect Clementine to just forget about Lee because some new person arrived, it would make the first game lose all feeling

    This is a simplistic prediction, and I think you underestimate what the writing staff is capable of.

    The new season could, in fact, emphasize Clementine's experiences and growth as a character because of season 1. The player may in fact be teased with options to play foster father to her like Lee only to be rejected and be shown the type of strength people, including kids, need to have to survive in a ZA.

    Just because a kid is plucked into a game doesn't mean we'll be playing a father figure.
    Mornai wrote: »
    Suppose i can add Clementine to that list. :p

    LOL yeah. I saw the OP complained about Clem in another thread, and someone clearly has an axe to grind.
  • edited April 2013
    I doubt that Telltale would leave her story just like that, unless they plan for Clem to re-appear in season 3 maybe.
  • edited April 2013
    The biggest problem with ditching Clementine completely (besides the obvious) is depriving the series of an innocent voice amidst all the carnage and death. I'm not sure if I could have endured all five episodes of relentless ugliness if Clementine hadn't been there holding my hand. Otherwise the game would have just been a total misery-fest, IMO, and if Clem is absent from the next season, I don't think I'd want to play through it.
  • edited April 2013
    The walking dead is a 100+ comic series. Kirkman didnt do a few and kill Rick. Kerching lets start again... The walking dead keeps going into the apocalypse. Its just a zombie game if they scrub the chalk board.
    Clementine is the central character till death. Why bother post credits scene just to leave her.
  • edited April 2013
    If she appears again she's gonna be on the receiving end of another traumatic conga line :(
  • edited April 2013
    To much time invested in Clem's up bringing to just forget her in S2/DLC.
  • edited April 2013
    Mark$man wrote: »
    WINNING! 10/10 for you! GOTY!

    also with the pre-order you get a Clem figure with removable hat or a Lee figure with removable arm ;) or just buy both! :D we gotta make the money LOL
  • edited April 2013
    I want the Lee with the removable hand. How about a fainting Ben doll or Travis action figure "My dad was special forces!". Kenny carrying his mustache of death would be awesome too.
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