We're not sure what game Lilly does after the events of episode three now that it's confirmed that she isn't Lilly Caul, so I'm not exactly sure what would happen to her, Lee, and Clementine. As for Kenny and co., they'd all be dead. It's canon that Duck would have slaughtered the entire group without Lee's interference.
We're not sure what game Lilly does after the events of episode three now that it's confirmed that she isn't Lilly Caul, so I'm not exactly sure what would happen to her, Lee, and Clementine. As for Kenny and co., they'd all be dead. It's canon that Duck would have slaughtered the entire group without Lee's interference.
I believe that Doug/Carley's death scene was named "Woodbury Bound" before the whole Road to Woodbury novel. This originally referred to Lilly going on her way to Woodbury.
Putting the novel aside, as well as Kirkman's depictions of Lilly, If Lee was actually able to take Clem with Lilly, my guess is that he would end up in Woodbury.
Clem probably wouldn't know the fate of her parents, Lee would not get bit, the stranger could be a problem since you would have only 2 people to look after Clem (or maybe not if you didn't take the food), would probably be a more stable group since Kenny more or less killed us all with his boat fantasy.
They would most probably lead a happy normal life in Woodbury for at least a year.
The stranger wouldn't be a problem because Woodbury was in opposite direction (if I'm not mistaken) and the walkie-talkie wouldn't have such a huge range. As for Kenny, he was doomed from the beginning.
They would most probably lead a happy normal life in Woodbury for at least a year.
The stranger wouldn't be a problem because Woodbury was in opposite direction (if I'm not mistaken) and the walkie-talkie wouldn't have such a huge range. As for Kenny, he was doomed from the beginning.
It would've been cool to see how the story would be altered if you ended up with Lilly and Clem in Woodbury, as for the others Kenny and co. would have died on the train (not stopping the train duck ends up turning and eats everyone, or just Kenny and Chuck would be alive but not for long)
I think in a different thread someone wrote, that Kenny said the RV's radiator was broke. So... probably... they'd have to walk a lot after a while, and we know that being in the woods, or on the road is not exactly a good idea in the walking dead, as it is too dangerous without a vehicle.
I don't think Kenny would've died on the train, because he's far to dumb to figure out how to start it by himself. They would've died somewhere around the train... probably, who knows...
"Radiator's fuckin' hosed in that thing, she won't make it 30 miles." -Kenny
It really depends on where we go. We could be driving to a safe haven where everything is all fine and dandy, or the RV breaks down in front a walker horde. I think the chance for survival would be completely up in the air without knowing where we're going and what awaits us there.
In both situations is a 50/50 chance of survival. Savannah might have been a safe zone or completely overrun by walkers ( to which the noise of the Train migrated a whole mass of zombies to the current undead population of the city) or go with Lilly and end up in Woodbury or somewhere on the road, because of the RV breaking down and not knowing what to expect from your surroundings. So yeah both options are dangerous.
I don't think Kenny would've died on the train, because he's far to dumb to figure out how to start it by himself. They would've died somewhere around the train... probably, who knows...
Charles may have been able to provide his assistance in that regard. I also don't consider Kenny to be that dumb.
In both situations is a 50/50 chance of survival. Savannah might have been a safe zone or completely overrun by walkers ( to which the noise of the Train migrated a whole mass of zombies to the current undead population of the city) or go with Lilly and end up in Woodbury or somewhere on the road, because of the RV breaking down and not knowing what to expect from your surroundings. So yeah both options are dangerous.
The odds of survival with Lilly were definitely better; simply because one can reasonably determine that Savannah went pear-shaped all the way back in Episode 1 when listening to the messages on the answering machine and the radio broadcast at the end when Glenn leaves the group.
As said, Kenny's boat fantasy got pretty much everyone killed. It was hardly unforseen either, the scarcity of boats at the dock and the fact that we'd be up to our eyes in walkers as we neared the coast? I predicted it before episode 3 was released.
The odds of survival with Lilly were definitely better; simply because one can reasonably determine that Savannah went pear-shaped all the way back in Episode 1 when listening to the messages on the answering machine and the radio broadcast at the end when Glenn leaves the group.
As said, Kenny's boat fantasy got pretty much everyone killed. It was hardly unforseen either, the scarcity of boats at the dock and the fact that we'd be up to our eyes in walkers as we neared the coast? I predicted it before episode 3 was released.
Yeah going with a crazy woman is really safe !
You do realize that going with Lilly isn't safe because she cracked and and if she cracks again then Lee and Clem will feel her wrath and what if the rv stops working in the middle of the road and they don't have supplies and the walkers show up and they are outnumbered , and don't forget that Campman would still be a problem and he still wants Clem and if he would show up he would shoot Lee and Lilly and take Clementine with him .
Yeah going with a crazy woman is really safe !
You do realize that going with Lilly isn't safe because she cracked and and if she cracks again then Lee and Clem will feel her wrath and what if the rv stops working in the middle of the road and they don't have supplies and the walkers show up and they are outnumbered , and don't forget that Campman would still be a problem and he still wants Clem and if he would show up he would shoot Lee and Lilly and take Clementine with him .
Campman was in Savannah near the horde of walkers, Lilly was heading in the opposite direction. You're going to be outnumbered by walkers no matter where you go. Odds are you're going to run into a herd on the coast rather deeper inland, however (coastal regions in the U.S. account for a little over half of the nation's total population, which are now undead). I pegged it way back, heading to the coast to try and avoid walkers was a pants on head stupid thing to do.
Kenny's boat plan gets damn near everyone involved killed (Lee included), not might get them killed, does get them killed. We already know Kenny's plan ends in failure, by definition that means going with Lilly is the better option, since the odds of survival are better than zero.
Campman was in Savannah near the horde of walkers, Lilly was heading in the opposite direction. You're going to be outnumbered by walkers no matter where you go. Odds are you're going to run into a herd on the coast rather deeper inland, however (coastal regions in the U.S. account for a little over half of the nation's total population, which are now undead). I pegged it way back, heading to the coast to try and avoid walkers was a pants on head stupid thing to do.
Kenny's boat plan gets damn near everyone involved killed (Lee included), not might get them killed, does get them killed. We already know Kenny's plan ends in failure, by definition that means going with Lilly is the better option, since the odds of survival are better than zero.
Surprisingly, Savannah was much more empty than even Macon, until the train brought the horde(who weren't on the coast) into the city. Crawford pretty much killed a large portion of the undead population before they fell themselves, so the coastal population before the apocalypse didn't matter at all. Because of that, the boat plan might've worked if we didn't get there by train.
Surprisingly, Savannah was much more empty than even Macon, until the train brought the horde(who weren't on the coast) into the city. Crawford pretty much killed a large portion of the undead population before they fell themselves, so the coastal population before the apocalypse didn't matter at all. Because of that, the boat plan might've worked if we didn't get there by train.
The boat plan would have worked if Lee never met Vernon IMO, but some can argue that Lee wouldn't find his way back out of the sewers and then going through the sewers into Crawford etc. As for Savannah being more empty than Macon is debatable. Savannah was pretty much full of walkers when Lee & co first arrived and the train attracted another horde from the Macon area directly to Savannah location.
The boat plan would have worked if Lee never met Vernon IMO, but some can argue that Lee wouldn't find his way back out of the sewers and then going through the sewers into Crawford etc. As for Savannah being more empty than Macon is debatable. Savannah was pretty much full of walkers when Lee & co first arrived and the train attracted another horde from the Macon area directly to Savannah location.
Well, in the opening scenes of episode 4, the camera changes to multiple empty streets. Also, the group even mentions this when they first enter the roof of the hospital in episode 5.
Kenny: "Remember when Savannah was empty?"
Christa: "Those Crawford bastards did one thing right, i guess."
I don't remember what they say without Kenny/Christa/etc. but that's what i got.
Surprisingly, Savannah was much more empty than even Macon, until the train brought the horde(who weren't on the coast) into the city. Crawford pretty much killed a large portion of the undead population before they fell themselves, so the coastal population before the apocalypse didn't matter at all. Because of that, the boat plan might've worked if we didn't get there by train.
We only ever saw two areas of Macon, the area around the drug store and the motel itself. As noted, Savannah had its fair share of walkers when we first show up.
I'm also inclined to think Crawford didn't make a particularly big a dent in the undead population of Savannah either, considering how tiny the armory was and the fact the contents of that armory were evidently depleted during Crawford's fall. I never got the impression Crawford had a population of thousands either (by comparison, Savannah's population is over 100,000).
And the horde that followed the train into Savannah was in what would be defined as a coastal region; it took them less than a day to shamble into the city despite how slowly they move.
Yeah, I doubt Crawford really made big difference on the walker population. One of the reasons Savannah had a eerie deserted feeling was probably due to Molly ringing church bells so they probably gathered in whatever churches she visited. E.g. The area that the group was in when they got in Savannah appeared deserted until Molly rang the bell and a crap load of walkers converged on the place.
Yeah, I doubt Crawford really made big difference on the walker population. One of the reasons Savannah had a eerie deserted feeling was probably due to Molly ringing church bells so they probably gathered in whatever churches she visited. E.g. The area that the group was in when they got in Savannah appeared deserted until Molly rang the bell and a crap load of walkers converged on the place.
How do you think the story would of been altered if you would have been able to go with Lilly?
I think we would have been fine up to the point where the RV breaks down. In my game, Lee and Lilly are best friends so it would have been refreshing to see how trust, cooperation and teamwork would overcome the challenges of surviving in a ZA for a change.
We probably would have met a group from Woodbury similar to the way Lilly encountered them in the novel. Both groups are raiding a store for supplies and Martinez offers Lilly an alternate plan to surviving on our own...come to Woodbury. Once at Woodbury I think a somewhat normal life could have occurred. Lee, Lilly and Clem could have even been a family....for a few months maybe even a year or so.
Of course the events of the comics would take place but where the comics stop telling Lilly's story, TTG could continue. When Lilly becomes "overdue", Lee and an older Clem could attempt a rescue.
Regardless of what happened in the story, I would much rather have gone through any hardship even getting killed alongside my best friend than go to Savannah with someone I hate and someone who is a traitor.
I think we would have been fine up to the point where the RV breaks down. In my game, Lee and Lilly are best friends so it would have been refreshing to see how trust, cooperation and teamwork would overcome the challenges of surviving in a ZA for a change.
We probably would have met a group from Woodbury similar to the way Lilly encountered them in the novel. Both groups are raiding a store for supplies and Martinez offers Lilly an alternate plan to surviving on our own...come to Woodbury. Once at Woodbury I think a somewhat normal life could have occurred. Lee, Lilly and Clem could have even been a family....for a few months maybe even a year or so.
Of course the events of the comics would take place but where the comics stop telling Lilly's story, TTG could continue. When Lilly becomes "overdue", Lee and an older Clem could attempt a rescue.
Regardless of what happened in the story, I would much rather have gone through any hardship even getting killed alongside my best friend than go to Savannah with someone I hate and someone who is a traitor.
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Only an ass would actually go with Lilly though.
Guess that makes me one
Putting the novel aside, as well as Kirkman's depictions of Lilly, If Lee was actually able to take Clem with Lilly, my guess is that he would end up in Woodbury.
The stranger wouldn't be a problem because Woodbury was in opposite direction (if I'm not mistaken) and the walkie-talkie wouldn't have such a huge range. As for Kenny, he was doomed from the beginning.
It really depends on where we go. We could be driving to a safe haven where everything is all fine and dandy, or the RV breaks down in front a walker horde. I think the chance for survival would be completely up in the air without knowing where we're going and what awaits us there.
Kenny definetly is not the brightest
The odds of survival with Lilly were definitely better; simply because one can reasonably determine that Savannah went pear-shaped all the way back in Episode 1 when listening to the messages on the answering machine and the radio broadcast at the end when Glenn leaves the group.
As said, Kenny's boat fantasy got pretty much everyone killed. It was hardly unforseen either, the scarcity of boats at the dock and the fact that we'd be up to our eyes in walkers as we neared the coast? I predicted it before episode 3 was released.
Yeah going with a crazy woman is really safe !
You do realize that going with Lilly isn't safe because she cracked and and if she cracks again then Lee and Clem will feel her wrath and what if the rv stops working in the middle of the road and they don't have supplies and the walkers show up and they are outnumbered , and don't forget that Campman would still be a problem and he still wants Clem and if he would show up he would shoot Lee and Lilly and take Clementine with him .
Campman was in Savannah near the horde of walkers, Lilly was heading in the opposite direction. You're going to be outnumbered by walkers no matter where you go. Odds are you're going to run into a herd on the coast rather deeper inland, however (coastal regions in the U.S. account for a little over half of the nation's total population, which are now undead). I pegged it way back, heading to the coast to try and avoid walkers was a pants on head stupid thing to do.
Kenny's boat plan gets damn near everyone involved killed (Lee included), not might get them killed, does get them killed. We already know Kenny's plan ends in failure, by definition that means going with Lilly is the better option, since the odds of survival are better than zero.
Surprisingly, Savannah was much more empty than even Macon, until the train brought the horde(who weren't on the coast) into the city. Crawford pretty much killed a large portion of the undead population before they fell themselves, so the coastal population before the apocalypse didn't matter at all. Because of that, the boat plan might've worked if we didn't get there by train.
The boat plan would have worked if Lee never met Vernon IMO, but some can argue that Lee wouldn't find his way back out of the sewers and then going through the sewers into Crawford etc. As for Savannah being more empty than Macon is debatable. Savannah was pretty much full of walkers when Lee & co first arrived and the train attracted another horde from the Macon area directly to Savannah location.
Well, in the opening scenes of episode 4, the camera changes to multiple empty streets. Also, the group even mentions this when they first enter the roof of the hospital in episode 5.
Kenny: "Remember when Savannah was empty?"
Christa: "Those Crawford bastards did one thing right, i guess."
I don't remember what they say without Kenny/Christa/etc. but that's what i got.
We only ever saw two areas of Macon, the area around the drug store and the motel itself. As noted, Savannah had its fair share of walkers when we first show up.
I'm also inclined to think Crawford didn't make a particularly big a dent in the undead population of Savannah either, considering how tiny the armory was and the fact the contents of that armory were evidently depleted during Crawford's fall. I never got the impression Crawford had a population of thousands either (by comparison, Savannah's population is over 100,000).
And the horde that followed the train into Savannah was in what would be defined as a coastal region; it took them less than a day to shamble into the city despite how slowly they move.
Very true
I think we would have been fine up to the point where the RV breaks down. In my game, Lee and Lilly are best friends so it would have been refreshing to see how trust, cooperation and teamwork would overcome the challenges of surviving in a ZA for a change.
We probably would have met a group from Woodbury similar to the way Lilly encountered them in the novel. Both groups are raiding a store for supplies and Martinez offers Lilly an alternate plan to surviving on our own...come to Woodbury. Once at Woodbury I think a somewhat normal life could have occurred. Lee, Lilly and Clem could have even been a family....for a few months maybe even a year or so.
Of course the events of the comics would take place but where the comics stop telling Lilly's story, TTG could continue. When Lilly becomes "overdue", Lee and an older Clem could attempt a rescue.
Regardless of what happened in the story, I would much rather have gone through any hardship even getting killed alongside my best friend than go to Savannah with someone I hate and someone who is a traitor.