Lilly should be punished for her crimes
Am i the only who thinks that Lilly should be punished for her crimes if she appears in season 2 ? Yeah i know we are going get a new protagonist and he won't know Lilly but if she and Clem appear , i can imagine Clem telling the protagonist about Lilly and then the protagonist captures her to be sure that she won't escape , and then he and the new group decide what are they going to do with her because she might kill one of them and you have to decide kill her or spare her but i would choose to spare her but not before beating the shit out of her because even if you spare her she should atleast get a beating like Kenny if you decide to fight him on the train .
This is a theory though but to be honest if Lilly appears in season 2 i hope we get an option to punish her like either killing her , sparing her or beating her .
I'm sorry Lilly fans but just because you all like her it doesn't mean she can run away from her horrible crimes and pretend it never happened , Kenny and Ben did many horrible things but they regret those actions while Lilly din't show any regrets about killing Doug/Carley and stealing the RV . Kenny in the end sacrificed himself so then he can atone for his sins , Ben tried to redeem himself by saving Clementine if you convince him to go with you while Lilly never apologised about her actions and she actually abandons the two people she cares about aka Lee ( only if you help her with her dad ) and Clementine if you choose to pick her up . She may of had good intentions for the group but in the end '' The road to Hell is paved with good intentions " and " No good deed goes unpunished " Lilly fits those phrases .
So do you guys think that if Lilly appears in season 2 she should get punished ?
This is a theory though but to be honest if Lilly appears in season 2 i hope we get an option to punish her like either killing her , sparing her or beating her .
I'm sorry Lilly fans but just because you all like her it doesn't mean she can run away from her horrible crimes and pretend it never happened , Kenny and Ben did many horrible things but they regret those actions while Lilly din't show any regrets about killing Doug/Carley and stealing the RV . Kenny in the end sacrificed himself so then he can atone for his sins , Ben tried to redeem himself by saving Clementine if you convince him to go with you while Lilly never apologised about her actions and she actually abandons the two people she cares about aka Lee ( only if you help her with her dad ) and Clementine if you choose to pick her up . She may of had good intentions for the group but in the end '' The road to Hell is paved with good intentions " and " No good deed goes unpunished " Lilly fits those phrases .
So do you guys think that if Lilly appears in season 2 she should get punished ?
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You didn't get this kind of closure for a character you disliked. She'll probably be in season 2 but what could suck is that you will have to interact with her for a few episodes before the opportunity to avenge Carley presents itself.
Hang in there. It's worth the wait
Thanks for the advice
lol. Just imagine a situation, you're not familiar with this girl (you're a new protagonist), you who once said that she did terrible thing, but she did nothing wrong to you Now she's got a weapon, she has a lot of experience for survival, she really knows how to kill a zombie, and is the main character was going to kill her just because of the fact that he had heard that she had killed an innocent man?
It's just not reasonable, why deprive your team of experienced military unit, who is a Lilly?
Oh... of course Clem can say: "She's bad, she killed poor Carley... we need to leave her in here, by walkers! *cute eyes* "
And many will do it, because blindly believe Clem, and wants a dumb useless revenge. But I personally would be in this situation would say: " Please, shut fuck up, my dear" .
I belive that Lilly can be really helpfull for new main hero, she's goddamn ex military, who can kill, and this skill is the most needed for survival in the conditions of zombie apocalypse.
There are not too much people who are still not walkers to kill them in vain, for the revenge. I will never forgive her what she did with Carley/Doug, but as like I said I can't wasting experienced people in vain. Also she's a woman! I hope you understand that human population can't be regenerated without womans!
But if you don't need additional fighter, additional chance to survive, then go on, shoot her.
I'd say she should get a beating, like you said, or some such if the player decided to let her back on. Not only does she kill a group member, but instead of taking her chance to make things right, she takes the group's only mode (known to her, at that time) of transportation and leaves three adults, two children, and an idiot to starve or be killed by walkers, and gets away with it! After she had already murdered one of them because of a mistake or simply because she was called a nasty name.
Just because I won't punish her, barring any future stuff she does, in my game doesn't mean I forgive her. If she wants her redemption, she's gonna have to earn it!
Ben's failures in dealing with the bandits shouldn't require explanation.
Only real difference is that Lilly killed somebody we happened to like; had she just killed Ben, I doubt people would care half as much.
If Doug wasn't such a nice guy, Ben would have died...
But then again if Doug wasn't the nice guy who would he be?
So put it this way if we do see her again... I'll be keeping a very close eye on her and I'll have very little tolerance for her
If I had killed her, then I would have proven Carley wrong when she said (though I'm paraphrasing) just because I'm a convict, it doesn't have to mean I'm a bad person. Lee killed the senator (and possibly his wife) because his wife was having an affair, and adding Lilly to the list would have meant that all Lee knows to solve his problems is to murder one after another, which would hardly have made him sympathetic in my eyes.
I don't see her as irredeemable though, she simply snapped after a series of events that sent her over the edge, the main factor being that her father was killed and having to live with the man who did that and showed no remorse for doing so. And her only immoral act was killing Carley, and as sad as I am to say it especially since I know she doesn't derserve it, Carley did bring it on herself by tossing insults just to provoke Lilly (Sorry.
I did find out what she did if you take her with her instead of abandoning her, but put yourself in her shoes, she was thinking she'll be executed, and it was either let them take her life, or leave the group. It wasn't right, but it was the smart choice, and it's not as if she left them with completely nothing since they were planning to take the train with or without Lilly, and definitely without the run-down RV that served no purpose to them.
As for Season 2, as others have mentioned before, I'd rather she never shows up again, same goes for Vernon. It would only serve to mess up the characterisation of the new protagonist, who would appear a complete saint in one moment and suddenly have this urge to murder Lilly/Vernon or be outright nasty towards them the moment they show up.
I'm always pro Lilly.
I mean for gods sake, most people talk about how they'd be a "great leader" and "make right choices" in a zombie apocalypse when they can't even f*cking handle issues like that. The point of a leader is to see it from different perspectives, not just do whatever the f*ck you please.
Ahem. Sorry, just went off on a rant there, oops.
Let me properly conduct myself, Lilly should not be punished. Done.
When Kenny murders an innocent man, who most people were trying to save and who is also a father and he murders him right in front of his own daughter who is also trying to save him!
Lord and Lilly shoots someone who continually angers her when she's stressed out from having her father murdered the other week, gets the worst punishment?
Do you people not see what is wrong here- Oh wait! But the difference is Lilly murdered Carley who many people liked and yet Kenny murdered Larry.
First off Carley ranted at Lilly moments before she shot her and just made her snap, she should have backed off and let Lee sort it. Don't get me wrong I am in now way saying Lilly had legitimate reasons to shoot her, I'm saying at least she some-what has a reason.
Kenny just wanted to murder Larry because, he would turn into a walker. However zombie forms normally take hours to occur and normally there's symptoms such as high-fever, odd skin colour, baggy eyes, etc.
Also, about Doug- Yeah he saved Ben, he sacrificed himself, Lilly didn't shoot him he caused Lilly to shoot him. Lilly was going for Ben, who many people hate for some reason. God I'm really ranting today...
What. Don't care how much stress someone's under, doesn't mean they get to shoot their problems in the head.
When did it say this? I don't remember it at all..
Were did you here it takes hours to come back, did Mr. Parker take hours to come back, it can take anywhere from three minutes to a day and Larry was on the ground for at least three minutes so.
You do realize Lee could not talk her down before Carley insulted her, and without Carley she still grabs the gun anyway, someone was just going to die and no negotiation could stop that.
I calling it: P.C.T.W.D.E.C. (Post completing "The Walking Dead" emotionally crysis).:) With time is changing attitudes to some of the characters. (as it was with me)
Punishing a grown female independent tough survivor based on the words of 9 years old girl... that would be not only super out of character, but absolutely dumb. Whatever she did in the past, it is not your new character's job to judge. Lee killed a lot of people, 1 even before the apocalypse, but we all managed to forgive him and find plenty of reasons to like him.
But do not worry, Telltale won't put Lilly in season 2. At least that's what I would do. It is really not worth the teens' cry that's gonna break out in this forum once people start making thousands of new threads as to why they cannot hurt the stranger their character had just met.
It is not really worth it to invest in Lilly anymore. She was awesome, but Kirkman ruined it anyway. Better to invest in something fresh and not so troublesome.
Good to see you. And totally 100% agree
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Almost every walker-infection in the comics, TV show (I don't think there's many) and in the video game (I think it only shows Duck and Lee) show that they go through these symptoms especially the fever.
I did forget the mention the skin can also go pale (Well I've only seen Duck and Jim have that problem)
Also going back to stress, what I meant is due to the stress she's dealing with she is very sensitive. So what was Carley thinking when she told Lilly off -
"She's sensitive, angry and has a gun I think I ought to show her my argument skills!"
But then again, Carley probably got fed up and just didn't care about Lilly. Also for gods sake didn't Lilly save most people as most people tried to revive Larry.
She saved Lee from Andy St. John!
And as for Kenny killing Larry being just as bad, it's not. Depending on how you look at it, it can still be horrible, but Kenny had valid reasons for doing what he did. It doesn't take hours to turn, it takes minutes if the body is already dead. David/Travis turned in one minute at the most. By the time anyone got around to doing anything, Larry might have already been deciding which one of us to chomp first. Admittedly, I might be a bit biased on that matter because I helped Kenny make sure Larry didn't eat us, but I'm not saying what he did was heroic or great in any way. Lilly had to see her father die, which sucked, but Kenny at the very least ensured he wouldn't turn. Whether he was actually turning or not is up for debate, but in that situation Kenny's solution may not have been nice, but it was smart. So tell me, what were Lilly's valid reasons for robbing the group of one of its most important members?
Ah ok. To be honest, the game is the only thing of The Walking Dead I've ever bothered with. But judging from what I saw, after death, the turn is pretty fast. Everyone in that room would have died if Kenny hadn't done what he did. Lee had symptoms you described because he was pretty much slowly dying. Larry just up and died really quickly.
Agreed. It wasn't pleasant but he saved the life of everyone in that room.
The very first walker we see reanimate (the cop) didn't do so until well after he was obviously dead, based upon when we hear his screaming and gunshots and the fact the trail of blood he left was apparently dry (particularly in a humid environment like Georgia). And every walker that we see reanimate is pretty noticeable about it.
To say that Travis/Mr. Parker turned within a minute is unsupported too. We don't know the exact time he dies, we only know when Katjaa decides to call over Lee and Kenny to break the bad news.
That's not to defend what Lilly did, but Kenny's really no better, given the whole Shawn situation (Kenny even acknowledges he basically killed him by abandoning him) and if you help Lilly with Larry he basically attempts to murder Lee by leaving him to die twice in the space of about a week in situations where he has a duty to help. Guys have wound up on the wrong side of a firing squad for less.
You pretty much nailed it.