Nintendo demanding Ad money from Youtuber LPs
http://www.develop-online.net/news/44202/Nintendo-chases-ad-revenue-from-YouTube-content
Nintendo is starting to get a bit desperate for money now aren't they...
Nintendo is starting to get a bit desperate for money now aren't they...
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However, WTF is that dying company doing. Antagonizing fans over what could possibly be considered fan art, but certainly is an act of straight devotion to the company. There's nothing more dangerous Nintendo could do to its reputation. :eek:
To be fair I even watch one person watch Minesweepr because he does it in such a special way...
This is pretty stupid trying to steal money from people who are basically offering free advertising...
Out of all the gaming companies, Nintendo is probably one of the most financially secure by far.
(Only recently have they actually lost any money at all, and even then its was pretty negligible)
This kind of sucks but I can see why Nintendo is focusing on this, considering their slanting themselves increasingly as a social standalone experience.
(They might have their own YouTube like service for game videos like let's plays at some point)
On the other hand, the people that are mad at them are wrong.
I'd say "mark my words", but all right, I won't.
How are they wrong they are trying to take money away from people giving them free advertising...
Is it wrong to be mad at a company that is trying to grab money from hard working people whilst still wanting people to give them the free advertising but also want to be paid for the right to give the game publicity...
Also, first of all, it's not an active move, it's a passive one. Second, at least Nintendo isn't blocking the videos.
Wait, was it LucasArts? That one wasn't closed down because it did poorly, in fact, it didn't close down at all. Technically.
Does Telltale have an official stance on LPs?
And yes Nintendo is dumb for this, it's bad PR. Nobody watching these videos on YouTube is going to mistake PewdyPie's commentary for an official Nintendo video.
Granted I'm coming at this from a means-of-expression perspective and not from a making-a-living perspective, but usually when copyright issues come up regarding making art using someone else's media, the people arguing that it's "fair use" tend to include the fact that it's a non-commercial use as part of that argument.
It sure beats the shit out of situations like Shining Force III.
Also, what LuigiHann said.
I don't think they can touch reviews.
Don't LPs fall under the "fair use" thing because of commentary? I don't know anything about these kinds of laws, so maybe they're not protected if they monetize their videos.
Reviews certainly shouldn't be targetable because of this...right?
False.
I'm no super expert, but I had to work on copyright issues for the University of Berkley and University of Texas San Antonio. LPs extensively use video and audio from the games to the degree that it can be considered profiting off the original work. Samples have to be limited or of a demonstrably inferior quality. You can't use certain images under fair use, for instance, unless they're low res to the point of almost being unrecognizable.
Or to be more relevant, I don't think Nintendo would pursue most of these if the video was being recorded off a Nokia RAZR video recorder instead of being high quality recordings through a video card.
Nilesy?
You are right. In terms of people just posting random Nintendo videos just because, there is nothing wrong and nothing bad will happen, however that isn't all that is being affected. Youtube partners that do video game commentary(and some do it for a living strange as it sounds), don't get money for their commentary. If someone focused a channel around Nintendo and made it their living, they better hope their fans like other stuff or they have to go down a different career path.
And then there is the fact that this is all automated so some poor reviewers are going to get caught in this too most likely.
I don't care if people can't make money off me through my Youtube activites. Google can afford for me to not see ads.
This really is just a dumb move by Nintendo. I know people here are saying that they're as solvent as can be, but I was under the impression that the WiiU is doing terrible in sales and third party licensing.
When you block those ads you block revenues to the individuals trying to make the videos for public consumption as well. Google can afford it, but can PewdiePie?
Of Course...
I understand that my Ad blocker also blocks revenue to actual Youtube shows like Revision3, but I'd still rather not watch a 30 second long commercial every time I click on a 3 minute video.
I was under the impression that the Wii U is doing fairly decent and the only main developer to do a total 180 on their stance on the Wii U was EA, which...come on. Not a surprise. EA = worst gaming company EVER.
Legally, a lot of this stuff could be targeted, that is true.
Mere excerpts of those games can't cause legal problems, but seriously, what's a 30 minute review of a game on youtube but 30 minutes of high res gameplay with added reviewer's comments?
Legally, it is completely comprehensible for a company to state that random popular LPers are essentially making money with their IPs.
From the standpoint of advertising and company image, however, this really isn't such a great idea. Absolutely every video game company which risks to suggest that just watching their game would give the spectator even 1% of the fun than actually playing it damages its reputation in a great way.
So, Nintendo is selling consoles, but while they continue to dominate the handheld market, the WiiU is a joke.
That is like saying being on television should be a hobby...
Seriously, though, and here's where I step in as someone who turned his hobby into a semi part-time job, mainly writing, but I couldn't give two shits if people just grab my novel for free. I actually should find a real job.
Totalbiscuit's Content patch video of the day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yX4io2O4EI
Lpers have their own following and will watch any game they play and the content is not all about he games
A great example of this is Minecraft as the game itself is not necessarily the most entertaining but youtubers such as the yogscast have found a way to make it work and the idea of Notch trying to take ad money from these people when people are really only watching for them...
Nintendo games generally aren't the most story focused and I don't see many people watching an LP and then feeling as if they no longer need to play the game...
Considering he's made a small fortune off of being fake scared and Happy Wheels, I think he can.
Oh I completely agree. I think on a actual level, it's stupid by Nintendo.
Ok so you want to deny someone money for their work because you don't like that they can make money? Even if you don't like it, it is still their job.
How about if I got into building and flying remote controlled airplanes, and charged people for coming to watch me fly them? (by myself, not at an official event that actually cost someone money to organize.)
It's a hobby, not a job. People play games because they are fun, and they make LP's because they enjoy it.
In fact, I don't think I'd ever pay money just to watch a Rifftrax, either.
EDIT: Okay, wait. My issue is actually that it's Youtube. Youtube is a community where Joe Blow can upload videos of his cat. I have no qualms whatsoever with Doug Walker (Nostalgia Critic) making money off people watching his reviews, because he has his own website dedicated to it. So yes, if people can make a Rifftrax and then sell it for money on Rifftrax.com, that's fine. I just wouldn't buy it.
Yes. And if they are willing to pay you nothing is wrong with it.