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(SPOILERS) Nate...

Nate the GreatNate the Great
edited September 2013 in The Walking Dead
Anyone else wondering if Nate is still alive? And if so, where is he? He obviously killed the old couple at the station, but where is he now? He appeared in Wyatt's story where Eddie killed his friend but then didn't show up till Russel's story where he offers him a ride. If you look closely, you can see the cut on his hand if you stayed in the car as Wyatt and bashed his hand into broken glass. Does he just hang around the pit stop? Because he showed up in Day 41 and was still around the same area in 182 days (I believe). I like Nate a lot. I think he was one of the most interesting characters in 400 days because he is bat-shit crazy. One moment he is forcing you to rate a zombie from 1-10, the next he is helping you and covering you from gunshots at the gas station. I hope he appears in Season 2 (possibly as the main antagonist???) and they explain a little about what happened to him and what happened if he stayed with Russel, because in the epilogue Nate is not with Russel.

What are your thoughts????
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  • ZarronZarron
    edited July 2013
    My biggest question is if he was always sort of a crazy nut job, or if Eddie accidentally killing his friend pushed him over the edge.
  • Nate the GreatNate the Great
    edited July 2013
    Yeah, I was wondering that too. Another question I had was if Nate was actually the masked bandit the old man was talking about. Nate is clearly nuts, so what if he came to the gas station before and just never told Russel? I have a feeling this whole thing has to do with Wyatt's story, as Eddie's car IS at the pit stop
  • PotatoCatPotatoCat
    edited July 2013
    I have a similar ponderments about the character. Leland too. Leland slightly more so because more players will probably have stayed with him, though Nate is arguably a more important character in the DLC.

    But honestly, my theory for the next antagonist is Russell. He seems too reluctant to go with Tavia to really fit in with the way she described it. Maybe not a Stranger level of antagonist, but maybe a Ben level, if Ben was doing it out of spite and not fear, of course.
  • ZarronZarron
    edited July 2013
    Russel is able to integrate into Vince's group fine; if Tavia proves trustworthy, he probably won't have any trouble meshing in there.
  • Nate the GreatNate the Great
    edited July 2013
    Yeah, Russel as the antagonist would be a nice twist. I feel like Russel could swing in the Ben direction, which is a shame because he is one of my favorite characters in the DLC.
  • Nate the GreatNate the Great
    edited July 2013
    I feel like Eddie might be still on the run from Nate, either if you left Eddie behind or he left you, it looks like Nate is hunting Eddie, as seen in the credits picture where Eddie is escaping from Nate with the injured cop (possibly Andre???) around his shoulder. Regardless, I hope Eddie shows up in Season 2, maybe in Tavia's settlement.
  • Rock114Rock114
    edited July 2013
    I hope Nate shows up again, because he was pretty cool for a psychopath. I had to go out into the fog my first time playing Wyatt's story, so I didn't know the cut was from him chasing Wyatt and Eddie (although I did recognize the truck, and knew it was him). I don't think he's "main antagonist" material, but if he shows up as the villain for an Episode, I would love that.
  • derelladerella
    edited July 2013
    Nate was a really awesome villain. He felt capable of anything -- smiling and joking one minute, and then killing someone in cold blood the next. While playing Russell, I felt like that I was being coerced the whole time, forced to go with this creepy guy because he might blow your head off if you disagree.

    I do think he was the one who attacked the old couple... I mean, he was pretty insistent on taking them out.
  • PotatoCatPotatoCat
    edited July 2013
    Did anyone else REALLY like his Jack Nicholson-esque deranged smile near the end. Like, REAALLLLY liked it?
  • thestalkingheadthestalkinghead
    edited July 2013
    nate was crazy, he was one of my favorite characters (in a OMG he's crazy kind of way) when he just did that crazy face and then (in my first playthrough) just shot the old couple, that was insane, i knew he was kind of crazy the whole time, but that just made me imagine he was some kind of wandering psychopath going around killing people and taking their stuff
  • RizefallRizefall
    edited July 2013
    WalkingDeadFan23 wrote: »
    Yeah, I was wondering that too. Another question I had was if Nate was actually the masked bandit the old man was talking about. Nate is clearly nuts, so what if he came to the gas station before and just never told Russel? I have a feeling this whole thing has to do with Wyatt's story, as Eddie's car IS at the pit stop

    Not that this changes anything MUCH..

    But think that Nate came and meet Russell from the opposite direction of the gas station. If you think about it that way then Nate had not been there yet just as he said and the old man is just nuts, afraid and all that and think these are the guys that attacked them from the start.

    Now.. Nate could have been there, driven into the other direction and going back. But when he met Russell.. Did it really feel like he was going to go there and get them alone? It felt like he was casually driving.

    Nate is insane but i really dont think he was the one that attacked them, even though he showed that he COULD have done it with his crazy way of handling things.. But i dont blame that on him.
  • BlankCanvasDJBlankCanvasDJ
    edited July 2013
    I'm guessing he's still out there. Somewhere. In his truck with the one headlight. Looking for tail.
  • Nate the GreatNate the Great
    edited July 2013
    BlankCanvasDJ wrote: »
    I'm guessing he's still out there. Somewhere. In his truck with the one headlight. Looking for tail.

    Looking for zombies who would have been a solid 10 when they were alive
  • dubesordubesor
    edited July 2013
    I wouldn't mind if he survived. Hell, bring him back in Season 2! He was interesting and kind of reminded me of Merle.
  • Nate the GreatNate the Great
    edited July 2013
    Nate NEEDS to appear in Season 2! We need to march to Telltale Game Studios and hold up signs that say WE WANT NATE WE WANT NATE! Sound like a plan?
  • darknessofheartdarknessofheart
    edited July 2013
    Judging from the positive response his character has gotten, Nate will probably be back is some way. I am hoping he has a big role in the next game; perhaps he'll be part of a group that attacks this new settlement with Roman. I think part of the DLC was meant to build up antagonists as well; Roman and Nate seem to be prime candidates to return.

    Nate would be a very Joker esq villain; horrible person, but incredibly likable as a character due to his off the wall nature. You never know what he's gonna say or do next, which makes him a very interesting character and would be a fresh take on a villain for this universe.
  • Nate the GreatNate the Great
    edited July 2013
    darknessofheart wrote: »
    Judging from the positive response his character has gotten, Nate will probably be back is some way. I am hoping he has a big role in the next game; perhaps he'll be part of a group that attacks this new settlement with Roman. I think part of the DLC was meant to build up antagonists as well; Roman and Nate seem to be prime candidates to return.

    Nate would be a very Joker esq villain; horrible person, but incredibly likable as a character due to his off the wall nature. You never know what he's gonna say or do next, which makes him a very interesting character and would be a fresh take on a villain for this universe.

    Well said, man. Well said
  • Nate the GreatNate the Great
    edited July 2013
    I also think that Nate (if he DOES turn out to be an antagonist in Season 2) will bring more to the table than The Stranger, as Nate is more complex and we got to see some character development in 400 days, rather than him just being plopped right into the story as the Stranger was at the end of episode 3. I guess well just have to wait and see...

    Keep your fingers crossed.
  • Rock114Rock114
    edited July 2013
    Heck, if TTG brought Nate back in some way, I'd rate them 10. I don't have high standards or anything.
  • Nate the GreatNate the Great
    edited July 2013
    Rock114 wrote: »
    Heck, if TTG brought Nate back in some way, I'd rate them 10. I don't have high standards or anything.

    In my opinion, Nate is one of the best characters Telltale has ever created for The Walking Dead
  • RoboSheriffRoboSheriff
    edited July 2013
    He was a pretty cool character i just wish i could've done more than just "Threaten him" druing my badass russel playthrough.
  • Rock114Rock114
    edited July 2013
    I wouldn't go so far as to say "best", IMO, but he definately stood out against the rest of the 400 Days cast. Good antagonist.
  • Nate the GreatNate the Great
    edited July 2013
    Posted a poll. Tell why or why not you think Nate should be in Season 2 and what role he should play if you voted yes
  • ZeruisZeruis
    edited July 2013
    He's definitely an...interesting character. In my first playthrough, I didn't agree with him on killing the couple, but I really want to see his reaction to seeing Russell again in the future.
  • Nate the GreatNate the Great
    edited July 2013
    I was thinking, hasn't it been mentioned Nate was a bandit? Maybe he was a Save-Lot bandit from Episode 2? Maybe the old man was talking about Nate's bandit group when his wife got shot. In Wyatt's story, Nates friend is shot by Eddie, who could of possibly been his bandit partner in crime or something.
  • Nate the GreatNate the Great
    edited July 2013
    Put those votes in guys!!!
  • ruairi46ruairi46
    edited July 2013
    Someone make Nates smile a gif.
  • Nate the GreatNate the Great
    edited July 2013
    ruairi46 wrote: »
    Someone make Nates smile a gif.

    As said before, his Jack Nicholson creepy smile really added to the personality of the character
    And YES, someone NEEDS to make gif. of that
  • MickHMickH
    edited July 2013
    Zarron wrote: »
    My biggest question is if he was always sort of a crazy nut job, or if Eddie accidentally killing his friend pushed him over the edge.

    I don't think we'll know, though it's nothing a bullet to the forehead won't fix :)
  • Robert MorganRobert Morgan
    edited July 2013
    Nate's too fascinating a character for Telltale to leave behind. I'm ready to bet he'll make a comeback in S2, and the player will be forced into making another decision whether to become Nate's enemy or ally.

    (As a frame of reference, try to imagine having THE JOKER on your side during the zombie apocalypse. Sure, it'd be like keeping an atom bomb as your best friend, but you still have an atom bomb!)
  • Nate the GreatNate the Great
    edited July 2013
    Robert Morgan wrote: »
    Nate's too fascinating a character for Telltale to leave behind. I'm ready to bet he'll make a comeback in S2, and the player will be forced into making another decision whether to become Nate's enemy or ally.

    (As a frame of reference, try to imagine having THE JOKER on your side during the zombie apocalypse. Sure, it'd be like keeping an atom bomb as your best friend, but you still have an atom bomb!)

    This.

    Nate reminds me very much of The Joker, specifically the one from The Dark Night, because he does whatever the he wants. He has no one to protect, no one to care about. He is also very realistic for this reason because I feel many people would go insane like Nate if an apocalypse ever did happen. I always wondered why so many people were calm in a "zombies invading the world" scenario in Season 1. Nate represents the people who didn't hang on to their morals or family.

    He's prolly the most realistic character in 400 days. Hopefully he has some humanity left in that small heart of his. Telltale did such a great job creating this character, I have no doubt they wouldn't use him again. It added so much to the character when he just shot those old people without hesitation. When he asks Russell if he should take all their stuff, he has no sympathy in his eyes, no remorse. Nate is a character fans love to hate, and those type of characters, the ones you really hate for the horrible things they do, are the best, IMO
  • Rock114Rock114
    edited July 2013
    I think Nate was a little unstable even before the apocalypse. He gives me kind of a "serial killer" vibe when I look at him, even before the incident with the old couple. I wouldn't go so far as to say he actually WAS a serial killer before the walkers, but he definately likes the new world he's living in. He strikes me as someone who recognized early on that it really was the apocalypse, which meant to authority and no laws telling him what to do. Then he rolled with that, doing whatever he wanted because no one could stop him, slowly losing it until he reached full blown insanity, which is how we encountered him as Russell on Day 184.

    He REALLY needs to come back. I'd love to see him and Russell meet up again.
  • Nate the GreatNate the Great
    edited July 2013
    Yeah I wonder how Russell was separated from Nate if you chose to stay with him at gas station. Did he sneak out while Nate didn't notice? Did he escape barley and Nate's still looking for him? Something happened between them within the span of Day 184-400
  • Rock114Rock114
    edited July 2013
    I'd think Russell snuck out, but no matter if Russell stayed or left, I wouldn't be surprised if Nate is still looking for Russell. Watch Nate's face when he asks Russell if they could still be friends, and Russell says "No." Nate is truly pissed off. We saw him chase down Eddie and Wyatt, so he's just as capable of doing the same to Russell if he chooses.
  • Nate the GreatNate the Great
    edited July 2013
    Rock114 wrote: »
    I'd think Russell snuck out, but no matter if Russell stayed or left, I wouldn't be surprised if Nate is still looking for Russell. Watch Nate's face when he asks Russell if they could still be friends, and Russell says "No." Nate is truly pissed off. We saw him chase down Eddie and Wyatt, so he's just as capable of doing the same to Russell if he chooses.

    Lol, I loved the way Nate said "Can we still be friends?". He's acting like killing the old couple is not a big deal and that he could make it up to Russell, like they're having a 6th grade fight over which girl they like, but he's actually gonna kill someone
  • HarjKSHarjKS
    edited July 2013
    I have a feeling Nate has a tragic backstory, I could imagine him being a family-man and he lost his wife and child and ended up becoming crazy. Maybe by Rusell as being his "boy" he meant it as a father-son status.

    This would certainly be interesting and I'd love to see Nate be the protagonist, and end up caring for Clementine in the end trying to regain that "father" status that he always dreamed to regain ever since the loss of his children. It'd be an interesting character arc and additionally in my opinion an interesting point of view of those who have lost children, its effects and how the effects could subside with a similiar form of relationship.
  • Nate the GreatNate the Great
    edited July 2013
    HarjKS wrote: »
    I have a feeling Nate has a tragic backstory, I could imagine him being a family-man and he lost his wife and child and ended up becoming crazy. Maybe by Rusell as being his "boy" he meant it as a father-son status.

    This would certainly be interesting and I'd love to see Nate be the protagonist, and end up caring for Clementine in the end trying to regain that "father" status that he always dreamed to regain ever since the loss of his children. It'd be an interesting character arc and additionally in my opinion an interesting point of view of those who have lost children, its effects and how the effects could subside with a similiar form of relationship.

    Dude, that sounds really interesting, never would have thought about that. And yes, I agree, playing as Nate for Season 2 would be a nice change to make it a bit more unique because of all the crazy shit Nate could do.

    Lol, Nate spin-off game??? YES
  • HarjKSHarjKS
    edited July 2013
    WalkingDeadFan23 wrote: »
    Dude, that sounds really interesting, never would have thought about that. And yes, I agree, playing as Nate for Season 2 would be a nice change to make it a bit more unique because of all the crazy shit Nate could do.

    Lol, Nate spin-off game??? YES

    Thank you. I would love to see Nate and Lilly to have met up before, and having to re-think their decisions before since Clementine is there. Maybe they could be de-tached from Clementine at first however they'll both soon get interested and help her.

    I feel that I personally love characters that 'snap' as it can show an easy way to how society views those who have lossess and the tolls it has on mental health especially if they are put in conditions of hardship (i.e apocalypse) where the sense of danger is still always there no matter how accustomed they get within their lifestyle.

    Still I think Nate was easily one of the best characters in 400 Days, arguably one of the best thus far and it'd be easy enough for him to meet Clementine or see Lilly since we have no idea what he did in the past. However it would seem more realistic if it was his friend.

    Maybe Nate's friend was a male however they represented the "companionship" that he held within his wife. Now I'm not saying they're a couple, I'm saying he may find that "companionship" comforting and it stopped him from going over the edge. However since his friend was killed by Eddie, he went overboard.

    You can tell by his increased efforts to kill Wyatt and Eddie and to be honest, if he met Clementine alongside his friend and used them as sources to replace the missing emotions that his wife and children left him, he could be happy.

    However maybe Clementine was separated from him, maybe Clementine ran away, or maybe Christa/Omid/Both protected her.

    Who honestly knows, but I'd love to see this.
  • HiggsBoson2142HiggsBoson2142
    edited July 2013
    I'd love if he makes NO appearances in Episode 1 & 2, but comes back to confront Russel/Wyatt in Episode 3.
  • Nate the GreatNate the Great
    edited July 2013
    HiggsBoson2142 wrote: »
    I'd love if he makes NO appearances in Episode 1 & 2, but comes back to confront Russel/Wyatt in Episode 3.

    In the first two episodes he'd be looking for tail hehe. Oh, and is it confirmed that Season 2 will have 5 episodes as well?
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