For me, since Danny went straight for my gun, he volunteered himself. Didn't trust him either way, some guys act like the have your back but really don't and didn't see him as genuine, or at least couldn't keep it up. I also figured brains over brawn would keep me alive a bit longer.
I chose to shoot Justin because, as others have said, Danny seemed more likely to not stab you in the back when things are going south. However, SestrenNK does make a really good point that I had not considered at the time, after he pitched the 'lets shoot off someone's foot' idea he did go for the gun pretty quickly. If I could do it all over again I would shoot Danny instead...Oh wait! I totally can do it again!
It was a though choice, but I saved Justin. Both were friendly, despite what some people think, but at least Justin was honest about his crime and didn't lie to himself. Plus, he pointed out a crucial thing about the differences about his and Danny's crime: people will get their money back, while the girl can't get back her virginity
Anyway, trying to reason with the guy with the gun is smarter than standing right in front of him. I also was suspicious about him wanting the gun. I would have liked an option to carry him around or easing his pain.
Danny wanted to help the prisoner who was being strangled... and it didn't benefit him in any way to do so. He was also willing to stand in between a gun and Justin, in an attempt to save him.
That's the kind of person you want with you in a zombie apocalypse.
It just goes to show what a messed up world The Walking Dead is when a rapist is considered a good person to have with you.
I have 2 saves for each of them. But i must admit Danny is my first choice. He is brave and honest. However, i can't say who is better, they are completely the opposite of each other, just like Carly/Doug and Lilly/Ben. Justin is the sly/cowadice one while Danny is the brave/dumbass one. Each of them would be useful in certain situation.
And he does end up leaving you, but I guess since he is alive if you save him but Danny dies ether way I am okay with that.
That's meta though. Vince isn't omniscient. He's not to know what will occur.
You can base your decisions on that if you want, but I'm just unable to do so. I have to act as I think the character would act, and on the information they have at the time.
The interesting thing about that choice is I don't think there is a right one - yes, the epilogue makes small mention of both Justin and Danny, but we have no idea how they acted in the however many days they sticked together.
Why do people say Justin abbandons Vince if he's saved? The way Vince says it sounds like they talked about it and they decided to split on good terms.
Oh come on, you perfectly know the circumstances of Justin's crime. He's a Robin Hood-esque figue, stealing from the rich to give the money to himself. I honestly don't believe you'll get that much money conning poor people. He even said they would get their money back.
P.S: I'm not totally biased towards him. I still think Danny is an ok dude.
Although I feel really bad for shooting Justin, I feel like Danny and Vince are really badass partners. Kind of the antithesis of Lee and Kenny. And plus Vince's nickname is "Bad Luck Vince", which makes me more inclined to choose Danny and keep Vince's ass from going with Tavia and Co.
Danny has the potential to re-offend. Justin doesn't.
We dont know that if he would like to re-offend
I chose Danny because he seemed to take a bullet for Vince, is pretty nice to him, and seemed to have a brave heart (Stepping in front of the shotgun for example), he also seemed to be very nice to Justin, who in return was kinda a dick to him. Unlike Justin, he was a snake and somewhat cold, I wouldnt really want to survive with him considering if Im attacked, there's a real possibility that he would leave my ass behind. Unlike Danny who would seem to try and save me.
Now, if it was just Danny and I surviving the apocalypse alone, I would be very fine in having him as a friend, HOWEVER, if we join a group that has women and kids, it would be a pretty tough situation on my view on him. As of now we dont know if Danny wasnt on drugs or alcohol when he raped and if he regrets it or would do it again. So if we did join such a group, I would watch Danny 24/7 on what him, and if he really does do it again, then he lost my trust on him for doing such a thing a second time and he's gone.
Although I feel really bad for shooting Justin, I feel like Danny and Vince are really badass partners. Kind of the antithesis of Lee and Kenny. And plus Vince's nickname is "Bad Luck Vince", which makes me more inclined to choose Danny and keep Vince's ass from going with Tavia and Co.
Yeah I wish there was an option to get Justin, pick him up and take him with us while apologizing my ass off to him (Though I think he would not like to considering I just blew off his foot, but still, No man gets left behind, important to me in a Zombie apocalypse)
I shot Justin because he seemed to only care about himself, and he didn't seem to have any remorse for his crime. Danny seemed upset about it and he even tried to stop the other two prisoners from fighting.
Basically, I got the impression that Justin was only worried about himself. Danny seemed more trustworthy to me.
You public defender types are honestly pathetic. If I ever have to live threw a shit hit the fan situation I hope none of you are anywhere near me. Save the kiddie rapist... seriously?
We don't know anything other then they say he did it and he said he did not, for the record I shot him but not because he was a rapist, he just seemed way to eager to use the shotgun.
We don't know anything other then they say he did it and he said he did not, for the record I shot him but not because he was a rapist, he just seemed way to eager to use the shotgun.
The man is a convicted kiddie rapist. Reason enough to put a bullet in him. The fact that he tries to rush you and take the shotgun from you just makes it that much easier to blast his leg off.
You public defender types are honestly pathetic. If I ever have to live threw a shit hit the fan situation I hope none of you are anywhere near me. Save the kiddie rapist... seriously?
I don't actually remember it saying 'kiddie' anywhere in his story, yes it was statutory rape, but lets not fool ourselves here there's plenty of teens under consensual age having sex though that doesn't make it right. Its also quite possible for two teens to have sex and the boy to be arrested for rape even though they both consented, that's the law.
Then again there's no victimless crimes, Justin embezzled, or downright stole, 100 million dollars from his employers. How do we know this money didn't make companies close laying off employees who went on to have break downs, suicides etc or cause families to break up - there are always knock on effects.
Danny did seem very eager to get the shotgun but then again he was a hands on person, also a point to remember you are ALL criminals and Vince did shoot and kill someone so he's not exactly a prime candidate for a gun, its just we're playing him so our perspective is skewed a little.
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Anyway, trying to reason with the guy with the gun is smarter than standing right in front of him. I also was suspicious about him wanting the gun. I would have liked an option to carry him around or easing his pain.
No-brainer.
That's the kind of person you want with you in a zombie apocalypse.
It just goes to show what a messed up world The Walking Dead is when a rapist is considered a good person to have with you.
Danny ruined one life. Justin could have ruined hundreds.
It's really not that simple from my perspective.
Also, when that zombified prisoner was coming after us and I said that we needed to get off the bus, Danny called me an 'asshole.'
With that remark, he pretty much sealed his fate.
You can base your decisions on that if you want, but I'm just unable to do so. I have to act as I think the character would act, and on the information they have at the time.
So we don't know. Which I find fascinating.
Oh no, sir, not at all. I expected Justin to double-cross me eventually
But, y'know, it didn't seem as bad as what I expected Danny to do to me. Eventually.....
Or Clementine or Becca.... :eek::(
Perhaps you have to be female before it becomes an obvious no-brainer.
And I have no worries about Clementine. I taught her well and she would kick Danny's butt into yesterday.
To even bring that up is absurd.
If we threw that crime out of the window and instead had Danny be a murderer - killing one human being, I'd still argue that it's not a no-brainer.
How do you measure the pain you have caused a person? What's worse - killing someone, or ruining a hundred people's lives?
These are questions that simply don't have answers. Just because I feel the situation is very complex doesn't mean I don't feel empathy.
Obviously not.
And would you please stop presuming that I don't get how horrible rape is. It's frankly insulting.
P.S: I'm not totally biased towards him. I still think Danny is an ok dude.
You're insulting.
Danny has the potential to re-offend. Justin doesn't.
this.
We dont know that if he would like to re-offend
I chose Danny because he seemed to take a bullet for Vince, is pretty nice to him, and seemed to have a brave heart (Stepping in front of the shotgun for example), he also seemed to be very nice to Justin, who in return was kinda a dick to him. Unlike Justin, he was a snake and somewhat cold, I wouldnt really want to survive with him considering if Im attacked, there's a real possibility that he would leave my ass behind. Unlike Danny who would seem to try and save me.
Now, if it was just Danny and I surviving the apocalypse alone, I would be very fine in having him as a friend, HOWEVER, if we join a group that has women and kids, it would be a pretty tough situation on my view on him. As of now we dont know if Danny wasnt on drugs or alcohol when he raped and if he regrets it or would do it again. So if we did join such a group, I would watch Danny 24/7 on what him, and if he really does do it again, then he lost my trust on him for doing such a thing a second time and he's gone.
Yeah I wish there was an option to get Justin, pick him up and take him with us while apologizing my ass off to him (Though I think he would not like to considering I just blew off his foot, but still, No man gets left behind, important to me in a Zombie apocalypse)
Basically, I got the impression that Justin was only worried about himself. Danny seemed more trustworthy to me.
The man is a convicted kiddie rapist. Reason enough to put a bullet in him. The fact that he tries to rush you and take the shotgun from you just makes it that much easier to blast his leg off.
I don't actually remember it saying 'kiddie' anywhere in his story, yes it was statutory rape, but lets not fool ourselves here there's plenty of teens under consensual age having sex though that doesn't make it right. Its also quite possible for two teens to have sex and the boy to be arrested for rape even though they both consented, that's the law.
Then again there's no victimless crimes, Justin embezzled, or downright stole, 100 million dollars from his employers. How do we know this money didn't make companies close laying off employees who went on to have break downs, suicides etc or cause families to break up - there are always knock on effects.
Danny did seem very eager to get the shotgun but then again he was a hands on person, also a point to remember you are ALL criminals and Vince did shoot and kill someone so he's not exactly a prime candidate for a gun, its just we're playing him so our perspective is skewed a little.