I don't actually remember it saying 'kiddie' anywhere in his story, yes it was statutory rape, but lets not fool ourselves here there's plenty of teens under consensual age having sex though that doesn't make it right. Its also quite possible for two teens to have sex and the boy to be arrested for rape even though they both consented, that's the law.
Then again there's no victimless crimes, Justin embezzled, or downright stole, 100 million dollars from his employers. How do we know this money didn't make companies close laying off employees who went on to have break downs, suicides etc or cause families to break up - there are always knock on effects.
Danny did seem very eager to get the shotgun but then again he was a hands on person, also a point to remember you are ALL criminals and Vince did shoot and kill someone so he's not exactly a prime candidate for a gun, its just we're playing him so our perspective is skewed a little.
Danny rapped a 15 year old girl. You don't go to a maximum security prison for touching an under aged kid, you do go to a maximum security jail for raping one though. When you do save him Russell outright states the Danny wasn't trustworthy around women hinting further at the sickness that is in him.
Justin is nothing more then a white collar crock. When he split with Vince it seemed pretty straight forward between the two. If Justin stays you know he isn't trustworthy which in an of itself is useful information, if he leaves he leaves.
As I've said in other post even a convicted murder could be positive in a survival group mentality if they can be controlled. A rapist though? All they are going to do is disrupt the strength of the group by adding unneeded stress to an already extremely stressful situation. If I was in a SHTF situation I wouldn't want either of them, but if the choice is between a white collar panzi schemer, or a kiddie rapist I'd put the rapist down every chance I got. Using him as walker bait... just an added bonus.
To be fair Justin was going to the same prison as Vince and Danny was, so either he was as dangerous or it wasn't maximum security. Anyway doubt it was as they'd have had more guards - most likely normal walled prison.
Also the law needs to have a cut off for consensual sex, its just the way it is but not all 15year olds are created equally some are way more mature than others.
To be honest I've never liked the way the law handles rape trials, the man is always named even before the trial though the woman isn't and it's all wrong - its innocent until guilty or it should be. Naming the man just fuels no smoke without fire comments and even if he 'gets off' some always think he did it.
To be fair Justin was going to the same prison as Vince and Danny was, so either he was as dangerous or it wasn't maximum security. Anyway doubt it was as they'd have had more guards - most likely normal walled prison.
If he stole the 100 million he is bragging about he would be put in a maximum security prison. At least he would in New York I'm assuming Georgia has similar laws regarding to the amount stolen being what puts you in different levels of prison. Stealing 100 million dollars would put you in the real big house.
Also the law needs to have a cut off for consensual sex, its just the way it is but not all 15year olds are created equally some are way more mature than others.
If Danny had just been caught touching a little girl he would have been put in a minimum security prison with the drunks, dead beat Dad's who won't pay their alimony, and people who steal things of small value. He was on a prison bus with a convicted murder, and high level thief. They don't put you with that kind of crowd for no reason.
To be honest I've never liked the way the law handles rape trials, the man is always named even before the trial though the woman isn't and it's all wrong - its innocent until guilty or it should be. Naming the man just fuels no smoke without fire comments and even if he 'gets off' some always think he did it.
Don't even start with me boy. There is a huge difference between honest to God violent rape and some girl regretting it so don't even go there. If Danny just had sex with a 15 year old he wouldn't be sitting in front of a convicted murder.
Danny was convicted for raping a kid, admits to doing "bad things" when you point the gun at him, and Russell acts with disgust at the very mention of his name. It's just a shame we didn't get to watch him scream in horror as the walkers tore him to pieces as far as I'm concerned.
Well for one you can cut out the 'boy' for a start, i'm not your boy.
Also at the end of the day we're just talking semantics here they are all serious criminals in they're own right.
Justin stole 100million
Vince killed at least one person violently
Danny raped an underage person.
Russell acts with disgust at Bonnie's referral to Tavia's group having Meds, even though she has most likely been clean for about 5months or so since she left Leland and Dee. Personally Russell has a highly inflated opinion of himself, that chip does need softening a little.
Did anyone notice that both Vince and Justin don't have their handcuffs while escaping? Are they some kind of Houdini?
Anyway, I also hope I'll never be in a zombie apocalypse with people who saved the rapist over the con man.
Did anyone notice that both Vince and Justin don't have their handcuffs while escaping? Are they some kind of Houdini?
Anyway, I also hope I'll never be in a zombie apocalypse with people who saved the rapist over the con man.
Whilst I can see where you're coming from Conmen do have victims you know, they aren't some kind of Robin Hood style person taking from the rich and giving to the needy.
For all you Justine was just lying about getting a hundred million, he did say he is good at lying.
He must have done something fairly serious though, I doubt a misdemeanour would land him on a prison bus with a violent gun criminal, a supposed violent rapist and at least one other violent criminal though I suppose we may never know.
Whilst I can see where you're coming from Conmen do have victims you know, they aren't some kind of Robin Hood style person taking from the rich and giving to the needy.
I only said he was Robin Hood-esque because he steals from the rich and keeps the money for himself. It was supposed to be a joke, sorry you didn't get it. Anyway, insurance will give the poor rich folks their money back. Or at least most of it. By the way I also think he exagerated the money he stole, but it's probably a few millions at least.
I only said he was Robin Hood-esque because he steals from the rich and keeps the money for himself. It was supposed to be a joke, sorry you didn't get it. Anyway, insurance will give the poor rich folks their money back. Or at least most of it. By the way I also think he exagerated the money he stole, but it's probably a few millions at least.
Whilst I can see where you're coming from Conmen do have victims you know, they aren't some kind of Robin Hood style person taking from the rich and giving to the needy.
Con men are manageable. You know they are liars from the start and aren't trustworthy. A rapist? Would outright destroy a group dynamic just by breathing. You aren't going to have most people around a guy who thinks nothing of beating the crap out of a woman and having his way with them whenever he wants.
The majority of people in a SHTF scenario are not going to put up with that crap, either of them honestly but a rapist much less so. I know a lot of people don't like the idea that in a SHTF situation you'd see the return of a frontier style system of instantaneous justice, but that is what would exist. If your a threat to the community you aren't going to be tolerated in the areas that are the closest things to "civilized" areas.
Has no one read the post apo classics like Earth Abides? The former convict gets killed by the group in that one too.
Which is what I did to, I honestly do not know why I did, i never thought about how bad Justin's crime really was, all I thought was, guy who steals money, vs rapist, that and Danny went for the gun and it was his idea, the more I think about it I really should have thought about it for more then a second, but I don't regret making that choice, it's just something that needed to be done.
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Danny rapped a 15 year old girl. You don't go to a maximum security prison for touching an under aged kid, you do go to a maximum security jail for raping one though. When you do save him Russell outright states the Danny wasn't trustworthy around women hinting further at the sickness that is in him.
Justin is nothing more then a white collar crock. When he split with Vince it seemed pretty straight forward between the two. If Justin stays you know he isn't trustworthy which in an of itself is useful information, if he leaves he leaves.
As I've said in other post even a convicted murder could be positive in a survival group mentality if they can be controlled. A rapist though? All they are going to do is disrupt the strength of the group by adding unneeded stress to an already extremely stressful situation. If I was in a SHTF situation I wouldn't want either of them, but if the choice is between a white collar panzi schemer, or a kiddie rapist I'd put the rapist down every chance I got. Using him as walker bait... just an added bonus.
Also the law needs to have a cut off for consensual sex, its just the way it is but not all 15year olds are created equally some are way more mature than others.
To be honest I've never liked the way the law handles rape trials, the man is always named even before the trial though the woman isn't and it's all wrong - its innocent until guilty or it should be. Naming the man just fuels no smoke without fire comments and even if he 'gets off' some always think he did it.
If he stole the 100 million he is bragging about he would be put in a maximum security prison. At least he would in New York I'm assuming Georgia has similar laws regarding to the amount stolen being what puts you in different levels of prison. Stealing 100 million dollars would put you in the real big house.
If Danny had just been caught touching a little girl he would have been put in a minimum security prison with the drunks, dead beat Dad's who won't pay their alimony, and people who steal things of small value. He was on a prison bus with a convicted murder, and high level thief. They don't put you with that kind of crowd for no reason.
Don't even start with me boy. There is a huge difference between honest to God violent rape and some girl regretting it so don't even go there. If Danny just had sex with a 15 year old he wouldn't be sitting in front of a convicted murder.
Danny was convicted for raping a kid, admits to doing "bad things" when you point the gun at him, and Russell acts with disgust at the very mention of his name. It's just a shame we didn't get to watch him scream in horror as the walkers tore him to pieces as far as I'm concerned.
Also at the end of the day we're just talking semantics here they are all serious criminals in they're own right.
Justin stole 100million
Vince killed at least one person violently
Danny raped an underage person.
Russell acts with disgust at Bonnie's referral to Tavia's group having Meds, even though she has most likely been clean for about 5months or so since she left Leland and Dee. Personally Russell has a highly inflated opinion of himself, that chip does need softening a little.
Anyway, I also hope I'll never be in a zombie apocalypse with people who saved the rapist over the con man.
Whilst I can see where you're coming from Conmen do have victims you know, they aren't some kind of Robin Hood style person taking from the rich and giving to the needy.
He must have done something fairly serious though, I doubt a misdemeanour would land him on a prison bus with a violent gun criminal, a supposed violent rapist and at least one other violent criminal though I suppose we may never know.
Oh yes, I know what you're saying - some people just have the inate ability to lie without conscience...hmm, why do I think of politicians here
I only said he was Robin Hood-esque because he steals from the rich and keeps the money for himself. It was supposed to be a joke, sorry you didn't get it. Anyway, insurance will give the poor rich folks their money back. Or at least most of it. By the way I also think he exagerated the money he stole, but it's probably a few millions at least.
Don't worry about it, it's ok.
Con men are manageable. You know they are liars from the start and aren't trustworthy. A rapist? Would outright destroy a group dynamic just by breathing. You aren't going to have most people around a guy who thinks nothing of beating the crap out of a woman and having his way with them whenever he wants.
The majority of people in a SHTF scenario are not going to put up with that crap, either of them honestly but a rapist much less so. I know a lot of people don't like the idea that in a SHTF situation you'd see the return of a frontier style system of instantaneous justice, but that is what would exist. If your a threat to the community you aren't going to be tolerated in the areas that are the closest things to "civilized" areas.
Has no one read the post apo classics like Earth Abides? The former convict gets killed by the group in that one too.