Well if he isn't then it's your fault, we've had plenty of times to accept his death. Better to accept it now and enjoy Season 2 and maybe accept it now then be overwhelmed with joy if he is in it, rather then still have hope he somehow survived and be pissed when he doesn't return.
I will not be pissed or mad at anyone if he is dead, I will be sad but that's it, I will get over if we have to cross that river but for now the door is still open.
I'm not actually expecting him to show up anyway. Even though I think he might have lived, it's a long shot at the very least. Still, gotta keep hope alive.
Can anyone explain why they love Kenny so much? Please don't get me wrong I do like the guy and his relationship (Good or bad) with Lee made the season great, but I remember back around when EP2 and EP3 were out everyone hated him. After EP4-EP5 a lot of people changed their minds and warmed up to him but a vast majority believed he died that episode.
Then I leave for awhile, come back when 400 Days is announced and it's like everyone and their mother loves him and believes he survived. Did I miss something while I was away
Can anyone explain why they love Kenny so much? Please don't get me wrong I do like the guy and his relationship (Good or bad) with Lee made the season great, but I remember back around when EP2 and EP3 were out everyone hated him. After EP4-EP5 a lot of people changed their minds and warmed up to him but a vast majority believed he died that episode.
Then I leave for awhile, come back when 400 Days is announced and it's like everyone and their mother loves him and believes he survived. Did I miss something while I was away
No one gets left behind in my playthroughs(even my enemies), but I'll be fine whether he's alive or dead. I just accept the fact that neither side can be proven true at this time.
Maybe the people who hate Kenny aren't as vocal anymore because they don't have to deal with him when every new episode is released.
Your asking me, TeamKennyAlways about what I'll do if Kenny is not in season 2... Nothing sure I'll be mad and upset but deep down I'm sort of excepting him not to be in it but I will stay hopeful to see if the Stache man returns.
I absolutely hate Kenny and I hope he's dead! That douchebag is the reason Lilly went crazy and shot Carley. Yes, he did save Christa who happens to be one of my favorite characters but in my eyes, Kenny was the villain of S1.
I have never seen such a negative way to look at Kenny, well that is something new, be prepared to be torn apart by my friends in three minutes or less.
I absolutely hate Kenny and I hope he's dead! That douchebag is the reason Lilly went crazy and shot Carley. Yes, he did save Christa who happens to be one of my favorite characters but in my eyes, Kenny was the villain of S1.
The villain of S1 ? Did he kidnap Clem ? Did he put the walker near the trash cans so than Lee can get bit ? Was he the mastermind behind the St Johns , the bandits , Crawford and Campman ?
I have never seen such a negative way to look at Kenny, well that is something new, be prepared to be torn apart by my friends in three minutes or less.
What are you gonna do? Throw virtual salt licks on me?!
I have a right to express my opinion so I couldn't care less about Kenny fans wanting to tear me apart.
Well now that you mention it, virtual salt licks sounds like a great idea. I won't do anything, I understand that it's only your opinion, I am just for warning you that you will soon be picked apart by other Kenny fans, by the way are you a fan of Lilly, if so then there will be massive problems in the future as Lilly fans are not really tolerated at all.
The villain of S1 ? Did he kidnap Clem ? Did he put the walker near the trash cans so than Lee can get bit ? Was he the mastermind behind the St Johns , the bandits , Crawford and Campman ?
No, but he killed Shawn (indirectly), Carley (indirectly) and Larry (directly). Lilly went crazy because of what he did in that meat locker so he's responsible for that as well.
Well now that you mention it, virtual salt licks sounds like a great idea. I won't do anything, I understand that it's only your opinion, I am just for warning you that you will soon be picked apart by other Kenny fans, by the way are you a fan of Lilly, if so then there will be massive problems in the future as Lilly fans are not really tolerated at all.
I used to be a Lilly fan but then she shot Carley in the freaking head. Again, because of Kenny so I kind of understand Lilly. I hope we see more of her in S2.
I have to ask how in the seven hell's did Kenny kill Carley. I have heard Ben killed Carley, Lee killed Carley, obviously Lilly killed Carley, I once even heard Carley killed Carley, but how did Kenny do it, if you say the meat locker I will flip.
I have to ask how in the seven hell's did Kenny kill Carley. I have heard Ben killed Carley, Lee killed Carley, obviously Lilly killed Carley, I once even heard Carley killed Carley, but how did Kenny do it, if you say the meat locker I will flip.
Even though I could've sworn he got away if he did Ben in (don't misread that), if it turns out he died anyway, I may be sad, but the 'stache will live in forever in our hearts, immortalized for all of eternity.
They better put in another mustache easter egg in Season 2 somewhere.
Well now that you mention it, virtual salt licks sounds like a great idea. I won't do anything, I understand that it's only your opinion, I am just for warning you that you will soon be picked apart by other Kenny fans, by the way are you a fan of Lilly, if so then there will be massive problems in the future as Lilly fans are not really tolerated at all.
Hey now, I'm a Lilly fan . I don't bash Kenny and hate him and I'm not 100% supportive of Lilly so not all Lilly fans are crazy lol. I like all the characters cause everyone of them is interesting, for good or bad.
Well I only go after the insane 125% Lilly fans, the ones that think she is a angel and can not do wrong, I like Kenny a lot but I know he screws up a lot, it's what makes him realistic, just throwing that out.
Well I only go after the insane 125% Lilly fans, the ones that think she is a angel and can not do wrong, I like Kenny a lot but I know he screws up a lot, it's what makes him realistic, just throwing that out.
Yup, a realistic person with bipolar disorder and extreme selective recall.:D
Anyways, Yertos is right. Not all Lilly fans are insane. Really, all of the characters were interesting and I don't hate any of them.
Kenny is definitely one of the most flawed characters from the game - and that's why I like him so much! He feels like a real person, and while I can understand why someone would hate him, I liked him a lot and agreed with him most of the times.
Blaming him for Shawn's death... I understand why you would blame him for that, I did too at first, but it was a very stressful situation with Duck being attacked by walkers and all. He panicked like anyone in a situation like that would, and considering the amount of guilt he felt over his actions (to the point he thought it was his fault Duck got bit because he didn't help save Shawn) I found it hard to keep blaming him for Shawn's death.
Blaming him for Carley's death, however - if Kenny hadn't smashed Larry's head in, EVERYONE IN THE ROOM WOULD BE DEAD. The purpose of CPR is to buy the heart time until advanced help (defibrillation) is available. IT CAN'T RESTART A HEART WITHOUT ADVANCED MEDICAL HELP. There is no way CPR would have saved Larry - it could have bought him a couple minutes of time to receive defibrillation (which was not available), but wouldn't have restarted his heart. In other words, if Kenny hadn't smashed his head in, Larry would have turned and killed everyone in the room. Sure, Carley would have lived, but Lee, Clementine, Lilly and Kenny would have died - and possibly Katjaa (although the St. John's did say they needed her) and Duck, since there wouldn't have been anyone left to tell Carley and Ben about the Saint John's keeping Katjaa and Duck hostage.
And don't give me "But it's The Walking Dead, it's not SUPPOSED to be realistic because it has zombies!", because The Walking Dead IS supposed to be realistic - TWD is what the real world would be like with zombies. Robert Kirkman cares about making his comics as realistic and medically accurate as possible, so I'm pretty sure CPR wouldn't have worked in the TWD universe.
TL;DR: Kenny totally saved your ass in the meat locker and if Kenny doesn't appear in season 2 I will just assume he escaped from the walkers, stole his boat back from Vernon and studied black magic to revive his family.
He survived season 2. I know because I got a dream where he personally told me... or whoever I was in that dream (everything was the right artstyle) that he survived the horde by just running and dodging...
I love/hate Kenny depending on when we are in the story - he has a very good character arc. I agree with almost everything he does until he kills Larry - and I think that act unhinged him a little bit.
Unfortunately, the way Kenny coped with his actions was by assuming that role further. He did become a bit of a villain for Episode 3-4.
He eventually redeems himself in 5.
I see Kenny as a good man who was corrupted by the horrors of the world that everyone now lives in. I don't think he survived. Using his last bullet to spare Ben from his worst fear, allowing himself to become a Walker instead is a perfect ending for him.
I agree, I would not want to see his body after how horrible Carley's return was for me, but if he is dead then there is no other way, it's a tough situation. Strangely I had a Walking Dead dream last night were one of the Devs tells me that Kenny is alive, the dream ended before I could be told how and if season 2 would have him, I might just be going crazy.
The villain of S1 ? Did he kidnap Clem ? Did he put the walker near the trash cans so than Lee can get bit ? Was he the mastermind behind the St Johns , the bandits , Crawford and Campman ?
Kenny didn't kidnap Clem but if you think about it he is the main reason the kidnapper exists. If you play the game again without making decisions or you side with Clem you will see Kenny's default point of view on things. You will see that Kenny and his family were the only people out of the whole group that wanted to take the supplies. Even Lilly who most people accuse of being a heartless evil bitch said it would be wrong to take the supplies because the group would look like monsters to the owner of the supplies if they returned. Ben said the people might come back as well (even dumbass Ben), Clementine said they might come back. If you appease Clementine and refuse to take the stuff from the car Kenny will straight out say that he's taking the stuff anyway with or without Lee's approval. Even the kidnapper speaks more hatefully about Kenny and his "bitch wife" since Clem obviously told him that Kenny and Kat were the main people pushing for the group to steal his shit. I wouldn't say Kenny is a villain but he can definitely be a considered an antagonist in season 1. Think about his actions and choices. If you attempt to help Lilly in the meat locker he will set you up and leave you to die at the hands of Danny, He will leave you to die in ep3 when you are attacked in the drug store, (Kind of how Shane becomes an antagonist in the show and comic) If you fight him on the train he comes at you with all he's got, wants to fight you again in ep4, refuses to help you find Clementine until you persuade him, wants to kill you before you have even turned in the attic Oh yeah, and he is the main reason the guy on the radio pursued the group and kidnapped Clementine in the first place, if the person playing agreed with Clem and left the cars contents alone.(which most would have done in their first playthrough)
As for the ST John bandits, when Lilly realised that something wasn't right she wanted to go back to the motor inn(she wanted to take the food to go) and Kenny wanted to stay at the dairy and said that the group should take it over if they had to, meaning kill the ST John family and move in to the dairy, even before he knew they were cannibals. Again even Ben said he didn't trust the brothers at the end of the episode. Kenny wanted to stay, at no time did his intuition tell they should leave. It was the case of something's wrong with these guys Lee, investigate and put your self at risk while I take my wife and son to dine with the people we have suspicions about.
Not really, but it just goes to show how many people are begging for it to happen.
And others think his fate is best left ambiguous.
I almost expect Telltale to bring his corpse back à la Carley/Doug style just to keep people from going on about it.
Blaming him for Carley's death, however - if Kenny hadn't smashed Larry's head in, EVERYONE IN THE ROOM WOULD BE DEAD. The purpose of CPR is to buy the heart time until advanced help (defibrillation) is available. IT CAN'T RESTART A HEART WITHOUT ADVANCED MEDICAL HELP. There is no way CPR would have saved Larry - it could have bought him a couple minutes of time to receive defibrillation (which was not available), but wouldn't have restarted his heart.
I'll admit, I was one of those who sided with Kenny here because as you said it just made sense, but the way they handled it was poor. Kenny (or Kenny and Lee) did not need to do it right while Lilly is still trying to save him. He wasn't going to turn the second he died, they should have been more respectful for Lilly and Larry and given her the time until he passed away, then do what they have to do. Larry was still alive when Kenny smashed his head, definitely would not survive his heart attack but atleast wait till he dies to do it.
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Then I leave for awhile, come back when 400 Days is announced and it's like everyone and their mother loves him and believes he survived. Did I miss something while I was away
Powerful Stache
No one gets left behind in my playthroughs(even my enemies), but I'll be fine whether he's alive or dead. I just accept the fact that neither side can be proven true at this time.
Maybe the people who hate Kenny aren't as vocal anymore because they don't have to deal with him when every new episode is released.
The villain of S1 ? Did he kidnap Clem ? Did he put the walker near the trash cans so than Lee can get bit ? Was he the mastermind behind the St Johns , the bandits , Crawford and Campman ?
What are you gonna do? Throw virtual salt licks on me?!
I have a right to express my opinion so I couldn't care less about Kenny fans wanting to tear me apart.
Not to mention the fact that he sacrificed himself for the good of the group.
No, but he killed Shawn (indirectly), Carley (indirectly) and Larry (directly). Lilly went crazy because of what he did in that meat locker so he's responsible for that as well.
I used to be a Lilly fan but then she shot Carley in the freaking head. Again, because of Kenny so I kind of understand Lilly. I hope we see more of her in S2.
The Meat Locker
The Meat Locker.
I don't necessarily believe this, I just want to see someone 'flip'.
They better put in another mustache easter egg in Season 2 somewhere.
Hey now, I'm a Lilly fan
Yup, a realistic person with bipolar disorder and extreme selective recall.:D
Anyways, Yertos is right. Not all Lilly fans are insane. Really, all of the characters were interesting and I don't hate any of them.
Blaming him for Shawn's death... I understand why you would blame him for that, I did too at first, but it was a very stressful situation with Duck being attacked by walkers and all. He panicked like anyone in a situation like that would, and considering the amount of guilt he felt over his actions (to the point he thought it was his fault Duck got bit because he didn't help save Shawn) I found it hard to keep blaming him for Shawn's death.
Blaming him for Carley's death, however - if Kenny hadn't smashed Larry's head in, EVERYONE IN THE ROOM WOULD BE DEAD. The purpose of CPR is to buy the heart time until advanced help (defibrillation) is available. IT CAN'T RESTART A HEART WITHOUT ADVANCED MEDICAL HELP. There is no way CPR would have saved Larry - it could have bought him a couple minutes of time to receive defibrillation (which was not available), but wouldn't have restarted his heart. In other words, if Kenny hadn't smashed his head in, Larry would have turned and killed everyone in the room. Sure, Carley would have lived, but Lee, Clementine, Lilly and Kenny would have died - and possibly Katjaa (although the St. John's did say they needed her) and Duck, since there wouldn't have been anyone left to tell Carley and Ben about the Saint John's keeping Katjaa and Duck hostage.
And don't give me "But it's The Walking Dead, it's not SUPPOSED to be realistic because it has zombies!", because The Walking Dead IS supposed to be realistic - TWD is what the real world would be like with zombies. Robert Kirkman cares about making his comics as realistic and medically accurate as possible, so I'm pretty sure CPR wouldn't have worked in the TWD universe.
TL;DR: Kenny totally saved your ass in the meat locker and if Kenny doesn't appear in season 2 I will just assume he escaped from the walkers, stole his boat back from Vernon and studied black magic to revive his family.
...at least, I hope I got telepathic dreams.
Not really, but it just goes to show how many people are begging for it to happen.
Unfortunately, the way Kenny coped with his actions was by assuming that role further. He did become a bit of a villain for Episode 3-4.
He eventually redeems himself in 5.
I see Kenny as a good man who was corrupted by the horrors of the world that everyone now lives in. I don't think he survived. Using his last bullet to spare Ben from his worst fear, allowing himself to become a Walker instead is a perfect ending for him.
Brilliant character.
I'm guessing you're one of the fans who would refuse to play season 2 if Kenny was the PC?
I wouldn't refuse to play it but I wouldnt be happy about it
As for the ST John bandits, when Lilly realised that something wasn't right she wanted to go back to the motor inn(she wanted to take the food to go) and Kenny wanted to stay at the dairy and said that the group should take it over if they had to, meaning kill the ST John family and move in to the dairy, even before he knew they were cannibals. Again even Ben said he didn't trust the brothers at the end of the episode. Kenny wanted to stay, at no time did his intuition tell they should leave. It was the case of something's wrong with these guys Lee, investigate and put your self at risk while I take my wife and son to dine with the people we have suspicions about.
I almost expect Telltale to bring his corpse back à la Carley/Doug style just to keep people from going on about it.
I'll admit, I was one of those who sided with Kenny here because as you said it just made sense, but the way they handled it was poor. Kenny (or Kenny and Lee) did not need to do it right while Lilly is still trying to save him. He wasn't going to turn the second he died, they should have been more respectful for Lilly and Larry and given her the time until he passed away, then do what they have to do. Larry was still alive when Kenny smashed his head, definitely would not survive his heart attack but atleast wait till he dies to do it.