He was going to leave Lilly. If you have Doug with you, you get a scene where Lee tells Kenny to "hurry up with that thing" with a shot of Kenny struggling to start the up the RV. Also ,from his seat in the front he had no way of seeing where Lilly was while he was working and therefore didn't know she was coming when he started driving. It's interesting what people think of Beatrice's situation though. If it were me, I'd shoot her without hesitation. Can you imagine being slowly ripped apart and devoured? She was screaming for like five minutes. So for me, Kenny was an ass there. And Lee was not winning against Andy, he would've been shot if Lilly hadn't saved him. Besides, how is Kenny not an asshole for letting his friend die over one disagreement and ignoring all the times Lee saved his family?
If he only realized other people have it just as bad a little sooner, hell if he just thought about anyone other than his family for once, he wouldn't have been such an ass.:(
he was in the driver seat he could have drove off at any time but he didn't, and if you think Lee needed Lilly to save him, that means that lilly is an ass for not saving him when you side with kenny, and as i said Lee didn't die any of the times Kenny didn't help so although help would be helpful he didn't actually need it.
the way i see it with beatrice is that if time could have been paused and the neutral god of judgement could be summoned to decide (after a debate) on whether kenny and lee should risk their life and shoot her or let her die slower, i believe the neutral god of judgement would decide that stopping a few extra minutes of pain was not worth risking the lives of kenny and Lee and the supplies of the entire group, beatrice would be declared selfish and left to die by zombie and kenny and lee would get all the supplies.
you can't remember pain if you are dead and she was dead either way.
he was in the driver seat he could have drove off at any time but he didn't, and if you think Lee needed Lilly to save him, that means that lilly is an ass for not saving him when you side with kenny, and as i said Lee didn't die any of the times Kenny didn't help so although help would be helpful he didn't actually need it.
the way i see it with beatrice is that if time could have been paused and the neutral god of judgement could be summoned to decide (after a debate) on whether kenny and lee should risk their life and shoot her or let her die slower, i believe the neutral god of judgement would decide that stopping a few extra minutes of pain was not worth risking the lives of kenny and Lee and the supplies of the entire group, beatrice would be declared selfish and left to die by zombie and kenny and lee would get all the supplies.
you can't remember pain if you are dead and she was dead either way.
Like I said, he didn't drive off because he was still starting up the RV. And while I was ticked off that Lilly left Lee to die if you side with Kenny, I think doing so for crushing your father's head is much more understandable than doing so for disagreeing with you in one situation ,especially if Lee had already helped your family multiple times before. And Kenny isn't omniscient. He didn't know Lee would have survived without his help and left him fully aware that he could've die without him.
The Beatrice thing really is interesting because so many people have such different opinions, huh?:D The way I see it, ol' judgement god would have decided a bit more trouble and risk for two able bodied adults was fair trade to make sure someone could avoid an excruciatingly painful and slow death.
With the RV situation, I think Kenny saying "Leave her" was something more along the lines of "If she won't get in, we won't stay for her" than "I hate that bitch, don't let her in." Even Lee is willing to leave her during the raid because instead of getting ready to leave, she's nearly in a trance shooting at the bandits. He says it's her last chance to get on, which is what finally snaps her out of it.
Kenny leaving Lee to die in the drug store isn't very understandable, even if Lee survives anyway. There's nothing stopping Kenny from helping him but Kenny's personal feelings, and he lets his grudge get in the way of helping a group member. Not cool.
Personally, I think leaving Beatrice is the lesser of two evils, since the group needs supplies. If it were possible, I'd have run out there and saved her, but after she got bitten, she was dead. The group needed as many supplies as it could get, and wasting those supplies just to end somebody's life a minute or so sooner isn't really worth it in my opinion.
Like I said, he didn't drive off because he was still starting up the RV. And while I was ticked off that Lilly left Lee to die if you side with Kenny, I think doing so for crushing your father's head is much more understandable than doing so for disagreeing with you in one situation ,especially if Lee had already helped your family multiple times before. And Kenny isn't omniscient. He didn't know Lee would have survived without his help and left him fully aware that he could've die without him.
The Beatrice thing really is interesting because so many people have such different opinions, huh?:D The way I see it, ol' judgement god would have decided a bit more trouble and risk for two able bodied adults was fair trade to make sure someone could avoid an excruciatingly painful and slow death.
about the larry situation, you can't have it both ways, you can't decide to try and save Larry then go up to Kenny and say "sorry i made you do that alone and that i made you the bad guy, but you made the right choice in the end, please be my pal" what you do when you try to save larry is basically say to kenny that "the slim chance that larry may live is more important than the lives of everybody in the room and especially more important than your family who is potentially being killed right now"
personally if i was in a position where i had to do what kenny did (and i believed 100% i had to do it just like kenny did at the time) and my 'friend' just says "no i'm not willing to make these kind of choices i will try the easy but potentially deadly option and forget about your family" i would be pissed at them and be all like "oh, did that door fall on you? and there is a zombie on top of it? well, i may just take the easy option a see if you can get yourself out of it"
the beatrice thing is just a point of view thing i guess, but lee shooting could have just made all the zombies pile into the pharmacy or make it impossible to get into the pharmacy, and if i were in the position of Beatrice and i was fighting my case to the neutral god of judgement it would be my weakest and most cowardly argument to say that it was worth the risk of two people dying to save me pain, i would just (reluctantly) concede and made sure i made even more noise
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he was in the driver seat he could have drove off at any time but he didn't, and if you think Lee needed Lilly to save him, that means that lilly is an ass for not saving him when you side with kenny, and as i said Lee didn't die any of the times Kenny didn't help so although help would be helpful he didn't actually need it.
the way i see it with beatrice is that if time could have been paused and the neutral god of judgement could be summoned to decide (after a debate) on whether kenny and lee should risk their life and shoot her or let her die slower, i believe the neutral god of judgement would decide that stopping a few extra minutes of pain was not worth risking the lives of kenny and Lee and the supplies of the entire group, beatrice would be declared selfish and left to die by zombie and kenny and lee would get all the supplies.
you can't remember pain if you are dead and she was dead either way.
Like I said, he didn't drive off because he was still starting up the RV. And while I was ticked off that Lilly left Lee to die if you side with Kenny, I think doing so for crushing your father's head is much more understandable than doing so for disagreeing with you in one situation ,especially if Lee had already helped your family multiple times before. And Kenny isn't omniscient. He didn't know Lee would have survived without his help and left him fully aware that he could've die without him.
The Beatrice thing really is interesting because so many people have such different opinions, huh?:D The way I see it, ol' judgement god would have decided a bit more trouble and risk for two able bodied adults was fair trade to make sure someone could avoid an excruciatingly painful and slow death.
Kenny leaving Lee to die in the drug store isn't very understandable, even if Lee survives anyway. There's nothing stopping Kenny from helping him but Kenny's personal feelings, and he lets his grudge get in the way of helping a group member. Not cool.
Personally, I think leaving Beatrice is the lesser of two evils, since the group needs supplies. If it were possible, I'd have run out there and saved her, but after she got bitten, she was dead. The group needed as many supplies as it could get, and wasting those supplies just to end somebody's life a minute or so sooner isn't really worth it in my opinion.
about the larry situation, you can't have it both ways, you can't decide to try and save Larry then go up to Kenny and say "sorry i made you do that alone and that i made you the bad guy, but you made the right choice in the end, please be my pal" what you do when you try to save larry is basically say to kenny that "the slim chance that larry may live is more important than the lives of everybody in the room and especially more important than your family who is potentially being killed right now"
personally if i was in a position where i had to do what kenny did (and i believed 100% i had to do it just like kenny did at the time) and my 'friend' just says "no i'm not willing to make these kind of choices i will try the easy but potentially deadly option and forget about your family" i would be pissed at them and be all like "oh, did that door fall on you? and there is a zombie on top of it? well, i may just take the easy option a see if you can get yourself out of it"
the beatrice thing is just a point of view thing i guess, but lee shooting could have just made all the zombies pile into the pharmacy or make it impossible to get into the pharmacy, and if i were in the position of Beatrice and i was fighting my case to the neutral god of judgement it would be my weakest and most cowardly argument to say that it was worth the risk of two people dying to save me pain, i would just (reluctantly) concede and made sure i made even more noise