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If you draw on Nate and choose to shoot him why doesn't Russell go through with it?

CrixusCrixus
edited August 2013 in The Walking Dead
I was annoyed with Russell when I first played it that he seemed to chicken out of shooting Nate but hopefully Nate will be an antagonist in season 2 and he might get a second chance at killing him.
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  • vivecvivec
    edited July 2013
    He pulls the trigger but safety is on/gun is jammed though
  • The LawThe Law
    edited July 2013
    Nate gives you a free ride. He even comes back and saves your ass if you don't go with him. He plays one joke on you in which you are safe the entire time. He apologises for not covering you by offering you his only gun.

    And you want to kill him with it?

    Also - on an unrelated note, his trucker cap and sideburn combo gives him
    +10 Charisma.
  • CrixusCrixus
    edited July 2013
    I definitely wanted to kill him the guy was insane,and plus if we had killed him we would have saved 2 old people being murdered
  • The LawThe Law
    edited July 2013
    Crixus wrote: »
    I definitely wanted to kill him the guy was insane,and plus if we had killed him we would have saved 2 old people being murdered

    Did you try to kill him on your first playthrough?
    This choice pops up before that...
  • CrixusCrixus
    edited July 2013
    The Law wrote: »
    Did you try to kill him on your first playthrough?
    This choice pops up before that...

    Yeah I did try on the first one and giving what happened to the old folks it would have been the right call if Russell went through with it,but on the other hand the good thing bout nate not dying means he's open to be in season 2!

    Also this is my 600th post so......

    hooray-zoidberg.jpg
  • Bioshock Infinite WDBioshock Infinite WD
    edited July 2013
    Yay, *gives bottle of Whiskey.*
  • The LawThe Law
    edited July 2013
    Crixus wrote: »
    hooray-zoidberg.jpg

    Zoidberg?!
    Why not Nate?!
  • Rock114Rock114
    edited July 2013
    Maybe Russ just didn't have the guts to do it.
  • Rock114Rock114
    edited July 2013
    Cany0udance wrote: »
    You hear the click. No ammo was in the gun.

    Well then how does Russell shoot at the sniper immediately after without reloading? Nate was only out of ammo in the truck.
  • MikejamesMikejames
    edited July 2013
    The Law wrote: »
    Nate gives you a free ride. He even comes back and saves your ass if you don't go with him. He plays one joke on you in which you are safe the entire time.
    Granted I didn't try to kill him, but putting Russell within arm's reach of a zombie clawing at him, along with lying about giving cover fire? Not what I'd call a reasonably safe way to get a laugh.
  • The LawThe Law
    edited July 2013
    Mikejames wrote: »
    Granted I didn't try to kill him, but putting Russell within arm's reach of a zombie clawing at him, along with lying about giving cover fire? Not what I'd call a reasonably safe way to get a laugh.

    He did it for the Lulz...
  • CrixusCrixus
    edited July 2013
    Bioshock Infinite WD wrote: »
    Yay, *gives bottle of Whiskey.*

    Thank you I assume it's Parsens?
  • Bioshock Infinite WDBioshock Infinite WD
    edited July 2013
    Who else would it they have a monopoly on post apocalyptic Whiskey, even if it's not not known for it's finish.
  • Pell3tPell3t
    edited August 2013
    Simple. Russels a kid and I doubt he's even killed a zombie.
  • CrixusCrixus
    edited August 2013
    Pell3t wrote: »
    Simple. Russels a kid and I doubt he's even killed a zombie.

    Surely he has had to kill a walker I mean he's been around for nearly 6 months
  • TomaO2TomaO2
    edited August 2013
    Nate was crazy. He put me in a situation where I could have died twice, deliberately. I may have hated Ben for all the stupid crap he pulled but he never deliberately tried to kill me. Plus, there isn't a group around to mitigate the more violent tendencies of the group like we had with Larry.

    Not to mention that the conversations I had with Nate showed that he was completely unhinged. If I could have killed him, I would have.
  • Rock114Rock114
    edited August 2013
    Pell3t wrote: »
    Simple. Russels a kid and I doubt he's even killed a zombie.

    Russell DOES kill a walker if you choose to, behind the diner after Nate saves him from the sniper. It's the cop that got bitten in Vince's story, who had the shotgun.
  • Pell3tPell3t
    edited August 2013
    Rock114 wrote: »
    Russell DOES kill a walker if you choose to, behind the diner after Nate saves him from the sniper. It's the cop that got bitten in Vince's story, who had the shotgun.

    Oh yeah he does. I just haven't seen it in any of my play throughs. Still I was wondering why He was walking down the middle of the road with not a single weapon. It's the za a weapon Is your life
  • CrixusCrixus
    edited August 2013
    Pell3t wrote: »
    Oh yeah he does. I just haven't seen it in any of my play throughs. Still I was wondering why He was walking down the middle of the road with not a single weapon. It's the za a weapon Is your life

    Yeah admittedly that was strange,not even a handgun or anything and he expected to walk 60 miles and not come across any walkers or bandits?! :D
  • Pell3tPell3t
    edited August 2013
    yeah Nate saved his ass big time.

    I was thinking the same thing for Bonnie Dee and Leland too. How many days are ya'll in the za and nobody even has a weapon. But back on topic I'm guessing Russel must have just left his group an hour tops when we get to play as him
  • CrixusCrixus
    edited August 2013
    Pell3t wrote: »
    yeah Nate saved his ass big time.

    I was thinking the same thing for Bonnie Dee and Leland too. How many days are ya'll in the za and nobody even has a weapon. But back on topic I'm guessing Russel must have just left his group an hour tops when we get to play as him

    Yeah it'd make sense then because maybe he was so sheltered in his first six months he doesn't realise how bad things are.
  • Pell3tPell3t
    edited August 2013
    Crixus wrote: »
    Yeah it'd make sense then because maybe he was so sheltered in his first six months he doesn't realise how bad things are.

    Could be, there was a guy in the TV series in season 3 that didn't even know about walkers, and they're about a year and a half in (I think)

    Or it could be like a situation with the bandits in episode 3 where he had to leave in a hurry and just got his backpack, but I'm thinking he pulled a Stephanie on his group and took supplies and bailed
  • Bioshock Infinite WDBioshock Infinite WD
    edited August 2013
    You had to remind me of that part in season 3, the writing there was really bad, I mean how does someone not know of the zombies, yet be alive a year in without getting food, thank god that showrunner is gone.
  • PiastPiast
    edited August 2013
    Pell3t wrote: »
    Could be, there was a guy in the TV series in season 3 that didn't even know about walkers, and they're about a year and a half in (I think)

    Or it could be like a situation with the bandits in episode 3 where he had to leave in a hurry and just got his backpack, but I'm thinking he pulled a Stephanie on his group and took supplies and bailed

    When did that happen?? Who was it?
  • Bioshock Infinite WDBioshock Infinite WD
    edited August 2013
    It was the hobo guy in the shack when Rick was going to Woodbury, it was pretty dumb in the writing part, I mean you are going to last a year, not know about the walkers, and somehow have enough food so that you never need to hunt, that makes sense.
  • PiastPiast
    edited August 2013
    Bioshock Infinite WD wrote: »
    It was the hobo guy in the shack when Rick was going to Woodbury, it was pretty dumb in the writing part, I mean you are going to last a year, not know about the walkers, and somehow have enough food so that you never need to hunt, that makes sense.

    Oh right, I remember. Yup that seemed just about right. :p
  • Sick OctopusSick Octopus
    edited August 2013
    Bioshock Infinite WD wrote: »
    It was the hobo guy in the shack when Rick was going to Woodbury, it was pretty dumb in the writing part, I mean you are going to last a year, not know about the walkers, and somehow have enough food so that you never need to hunt, that makes sense.


    I thought he was just batshit cabin-fevered insane. I mean, he did threaten to call the cops.

    Well, I hope that's what it was, because otherwise that is, like you said, some bullshit poor writing. He was living in what Woodbury called the 'red zone' - he couldn't go outside for any length of time without running into walkers - and over a year, he'd have lots of encounters.

    Regardless, his only real purpose was to make the group delve into some more Shane-esque ruthless pragmatism.
  • Sick OctopusSick Octopus
    edited August 2013
    I thought Russell was more than capable of pulling the trigger.

    That he didn't/hesitated, endeared him to me.
  • CrixusCrixus
    edited August 2013
    I think it was that he was insane not that he didn't know walkers existed he'd have to how else could he survive for a year,but yeah the writing at times wasn't great for season 3,such bullshit decision by AMC to fire Frank Darabont and because he was fired the actor playing Dale didn't want to be in the show so they had to kill him off.
  • CrixusCrixus
    edited August 2013
    Sick Octopus wrote: »
    I thought Russell was more than capable of pulling the trigger.

    That he didn't/hesitated, endeared him to me.

    To me it looked like he chickened out,made him look like a coward which is probably the reason he is my least favourite out of the 400 days Protags.
  • Bioshock Infinite WDBioshock Infinite WD
    edited August 2013
    I know, I think they will do well with Scott Gimple will do good, I mean he loved the game and made some of the best Episodes, but if they had just kept Darabont then everything would be still as right as rain.
  • CrixusCrixus
    edited August 2013
    Yeah Scott Gimple has wrote some of the series best episodes and I am fairly confident the series will be better with him in charge,alot better then it was with Glen Mazzara anyways thats for sure.
  • Sick OctopusSick Octopus
    edited August 2013
    Crixus wrote: »
    To me it looked like he chickened out,made him look like a coward which is probably the reason he is my least favourite out of the 400 days Protags.

    I completely understand that.

    I just think shooting a living dude in the back (or the face) who's a mere few feet away, a dude who'd just given you a ride and without which, you might likely be walker chow, is a bit OTT. And, yeah, Nate is douche-central and behaved pretty appallingly up until that moment; I'm no supporter.

    In saying that, had Russell known of the elderly couple and Nate's 'Steve-esque' plans for them, then BOOM, motherfucker.
  • Sick OctopusSick Octopus
    edited August 2013
    Russell isn't my favourite either; I think he can be a bit assy. Which I suppose is fair enough given who he rolled with before Nate.
  • CrixusCrixus
    edited August 2013
    Sick Octopus wrote: »
    I completely understand that.

    I just think shooting a living dude in the back (or the face) who's a mere few feet away, a dude who'd just given you a ride and without which, you might likely be walker chow, is a bit OTT. And, yeah, Nate is douche-central and behaved pretty appallingly up until that moment; I'm no supporter.

    In saying that, had Russell known of the elderly couple and Nate's 'Steve-esque' plans for them, then BOOM, motherfucker.

    Also since you mentioned it there another reason I didn't like Russell was that he just left the old couple to die, He pretty much says you better not kill them or i'll be real mad like a parent would warn a child,he just walks away knowing full well that Nate is going to kill them.Admittedly he had no gun at the time but he definitely could have jumped Nate offguard and wrestled him to the ground if he wanted to.
  • Sick OctopusSick Octopus
    edited August 2013
    Crixus wrote: »
    Also since you mentioned it there another reason I didn't like Russell was that he just left the old couple to die, He pretty much says you better not kill them or i'll be real mad like a parent would warn a child,he just walks away knowing full well that Nate is going to kill them.Admittedly he had no gun at the time but he definitely could have jumped Nate offguard and wrestled him to the ground.


    Again, a very valid point.

    I'm a stone cold asshole though. I assumed the lady was a goner anyway. The old-man looked like he was going to keel over from a combination of shock, fright and rage.

    Nate looked like a rabid tiger; every fibre of my being would want to get away ASAP, as selfish as that may sound. Like some others on here, I half expected Nate to off Russell while leaving.
  • Sick OctopusSick Octopus
    edited August 2013
    Russell also may have thought he'd called Nate's bluff. He didn't 'rise' to the occasion and therefore might have assumed Nate would leave them alone and focus on more important stuff like robbing the place blind.
  • CrixusCrixus
    edited August 2013
    Yeah I thought for sure Nate would have shot him in the back,or at least hunt him down after he kills the couple
  • Phoenix VIIPhoenix VII
    edited August 2013
    Crixus wrote: »
    Also since you mentioned it there another reason I didn't like Russell was that he just left the old couple to die, He pretty much says you better not kill them or i'll be real mad like a parent would warn a child,he just walks away knowing full well that Nate is going to kill them.Admittedly he had no gun at the time but he definitely could have jumped Nate offguard and wrestled him to the ground if he wanted to.
    I don't see why it's reasonable to expect that out of Russell. The woman was a goner and the old man tried to kill them, so to me it's perfectly reasonable that Russell would tell Nate to not kill them but not risk his life for them.
  • HarpadarpaHarpadarpa
    edited August 2013
    Pell3t wrote: »
    Simple. Russels a kid and I doubt he's even killed a zombie.

    Wait... Hold up... For one, he (determinately) kills a zombie during his story with a stomp. No matter how helpless, I'm pretty sure nobody would kill their first zombie with a shoe. Second, what about that whole story with Steve and all that? It was kind of implied that he killed some people with Steve and his old group.
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