Can we stop with the Becca hate?

edited August 2013 in The Walking Dead
She's not my favourite character, but by the gods some of the comments on here saying she is 'evil' are just SO over the top.

If you choose to kill the guy, you can see the terror on her face. If you offer to let her kill stephanie, she can't bring herself to.

She is vulnerable and 'nice' on the inside, she has just built up a tough exterior (which would be natural after spending 236 days in a dying world, and would also be bound to come in handy).

She isn't 'cute' like clem, she isn't quite as innocent as clem. That does NOT make her 'evil'.

I struggle to believe that any non-murderous 14 year old can be intrinsically evil.
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  • edited August 2013
    Nothing she has done has shown me that she is "nice" on the inside, only that she is "scared" on the inside (which is still something, I guess).

    Still, I agree that she isn't evil. At least not yet.
  • edited August 2013
    Nothing she has done has shown me that she is "nice" on the inside, only that she is "scared" on the inside (which is still something, I guess).

    Still, I agree that she isn't evil. At least not yet.

    Not wanting two people to die is at least nice on *some* level.
  • edited August 2013
    She's not evil but she is annoying.
  • edited August 2013
    Crixus wrote: »
    She's not evil but she is annoying.

    Agreed.
  • edited August 2013
    No. She's annoying as hell
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    Not wanting two people to die is at least nice on *some* level.

    Not wanting to SEE two people die after advocating for their deaths is not nice. It's cowardly.
  • edited August 2013
    Not wanting to SEE two people die after advocating for their deaths is not nice. It's cowardly.

    The entire POINT of that is that she doesn't ACTUALLY want them to die; that is part of the front she has put up to try and make the older members of the group respect her.

    It's not like she runs away if you kill Roberto, she stands there and is horrified.
  • edited August 2013
    TinyCarlos wrote: »
    No. She's annoying as hell

    There is a line between 'annoying' and 'evil'
  • edited August 2013
    Well until she does something nice, people will continue to hate her, and I got a pretty good idea that is what Telltale will do.
  • edited August 2013
    Why stop? She's annoying and could end up dangerous, whether directly or indirectly. I think the point of her character is for us to dislike her though, a bit like Ben (which backfired now as he has quite a big fanbase lol) but for different reasons.
  • edited August 2013
    I'm probably the only one who actually rather liked her...
  • edited August 2013
    ZacTB wrote: »
    Why stop? She's annoying and could end up dangerous, whether directly or indirectly. I think the point of her character is for us to dislike her though, a bit like Ben (which backfired now as he has quite a big fanbase lol) but for different reasons.

    Ben and Becca are very different charatcers.

    While Becca may not be everyone's favourite character, she has at least displayed more survivalist qualities than Ben did.
  • edited August 2013
    I know, I do not hate her, I just dislike her pragmaticness.
  • edited August 2013
    Hudomonkey wrote: »
    I'm probably the only one who actually rather liked her...

    I didn't like her specific character per se as we barely know anything about her, however I did like her relationship with shel; I'm looking forward to seeing how this is handled in season 2.
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    Ben and Becca are very different charatcers.

    While Becca may not be everyone's favourite character, she has at least displayed more survivalist qualities than Ben did.

    Yeah they are, but both are designed to be disliked (for different reasons).
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    The entire POINT of that is that she doesn't ACTUALLY want them to die; that is part of the front she has put up to try and make the older members of the group respect her.

    It's not like she runs away if you kill Roberto, she stands there and is horrified.

    And does seeing the consequences of her words give her any pause before cheering on another person's death? No. Whether or not she really stands by her words, she doesn't think about the pain that they cause to others. I get the whole trying to earn the respect of the group thing, but it's no excuse. And it was also just her and Shel in the RV. Who's respect was she trying to gain? Shel, the person trying to keep her from turning into a callous asshole?
  • edited August 2013
    And does seeing the consequences of her words give her any pause before cheering on another person's death? No. Whether or not she really stands by her words, she doesn't think about the pain that they cause to others. I get the whole trying to earn the respect of the group thing, but it's no excuse. And it was also just her and Shel in the RV. Who's respect was she trying to gain? Shel, the person trying to keep her from turning into a callous asshole?

    She's a teenager. She wants to impress people.

    Yes, she probably WAS trying to show Shel how she could handle herself; this is a sister/sister relationship here, not a mother/daughter.
  • edited August 2013
    To be fair Becca was right though...
    When she said if we let him go he might come back...
    And when she said Stephanie is no longer her friend and does deserve to die...
    Stephanie was a traitor and it is just hoe the world is now and all Becca is, is realistic and that doesn't make you evil...
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    There is a line between 'annoying' and 'evil'


    I wouldn't call it a line so much as a huge, gaping chasm.


    Becca is not evil.

    She is, however, a snotty annoyance, whose face could curdle milk. Jumping out at Shel was dimwitted, like one of the stupidest things you could pull on another in a ZA. Stupid even for a young adolescent. I got over that and then found out she's sneaking out, even after being warned by Shel. Endangering the group, what a badass.

    And basically whatever DomeWing said too.

    Anyway, no hate, just a healthy dislike.


    Edit: Her comment to Bonnie didn't help things either.
  • edited August 2013
    Flog61 wrote: »
    She's a teenager. She wants to impress people.

    Yes, she probably WAS trying to show Shel how she could handle herself; this is a sister/sister relationship here, not a mother/daughter.

    So we're just gonna blame all of her character flaws on her age, then?

    And it doesn't matter what their relationship is. When it comes down to it, it's still a lack of understanding and empathy if she can't understand that what she is pretending to be is the exact opposite of what Shel wants for her.
  • edited August 2013
    So we're just gonna blame all of her character flaws on her age, then?

    And it doesn't matter what their relationship is. When it comes down to it, it's still a lack of understanding and empathy if she can't understand that what she is pretending to be is the exact opposite of what Shel wants for her.

    Absoultely not. She is as annoying as piss in a sandwich; that's not just age based, that's natural talent.

    And since we're talking about her character in relation to other people, it kind of DOES matter what their relationship is.
  • edited August 2013
    Attempting a jump scare when people have walkers chained up in the yard isn't brilliant by a long-shot, but I didn't dislike Becca's character on the whole. She's no Clementine, but I like the potential dynamic with Shel growing up in the apocalypse. It's just another relationship that needed more than 15 minutes to flesh out.
  • edited August 2013
    I dislike her "acting" like she's brave, yet proving repeatedly that she isn't. Plus what she says to Bonnie in the epilogue if she was honest pissed me off a little bit. Kind of ironic how I don't like her yet I have her in my profile pic lol.
  • edited August 2013
    I don't hate Becca and I never found her annoying. Misunderstood, yes.
    She just wants to show Shel that she can handle herself on her own so Shel would stop worrying about her.
  • edited August 2013
    People on this forum: That person got that person killed! That's evil! I hope they die. And them too!
  • edited August 2013
    People on this forum: That person got that person killed! That's evil! I hope they die. And them too!


    I've only seen that from a small handful of posters. Although, I could be missing others.
  • edited August 2013
    Her jump-scare made me crap my pants, and they were nice pants so that's why I hate her.
  • edited August 2013
    Dildor wrote: »
    Her jump-scare made me crap my pants, and they were nice pants so that's why I hate her.

    Haha.

    S'ok, Dildor. It happened to me too.
  • edited August 2013
    I find it odd that people were legitimately scared by her trick. When she screeched at me I just said "Juvenile" in the blandest tone and continued on my merry way.
  • edited August 2013
    She's a potential bad seed who could go either way. We'll see what happens.
  • edited August 2013
    She's a potential bad seed who could go either way. We'll see what happens.

    Kids these days.

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  • edited August 2013
    Becca somehow made me miss Clementine even more.
  • edited August 2013
    I find it odd that people were legitimately scared by her trick. When she screeched at me I just said "Juvenile" in the blandest tone and continued on my merry way.

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    I'm not quite such a 'badass'.

    It was lemon face out of fucking nowhere. The most OMGWTFBBQ! moment in the entire episode.

    And the most idiotic.

    Poor, poor Shel.
  • edited August 2013
    I'm a Becca hater but I have never said she is evil, check my posts it's true. I f*cking hate Becca, she is annoying as f*ck, her attitude stinks, the way she talks to Bonnie is just disrsebctful (is that you spell it, auto correct isn't doing anything) but no she's not evil, but I f*cking hate her!
  • edited August 2013
    Becca is annoying, personal opinion

    She's as dumb as Duck and Ben but not nice like them while trying to be Bad ass which makes her character a really dangerous one.

    I could easily like her or at least understand her if she was one or the other but a dumb not really tough kid trying to act tough is the worst.

    And no I certainly don't think she's evil just annoying and no I don't want her to die, the only person I wanted to kill was the stranger and I did... no false threats from me :rolleyes:
  • edited August 2013
    People don't like becca because she is not Clem..
    the point of her story was to show you a different type of what ZA can do to a kid,she whitnessed some messed up situations for sure just like clem,but Becca reacted different. I don't find her evil/annoying..just feel sorry for her tbh
  • edited August 2013
    Becca is annoying because she doesnt care about people, has no redeeming qualities and is plainly a spoiled brat in a zombie apocalypse.

    Also, scaring someone in a ZA pretending to be a zombie? Hasn't anyone told her something like... "yeah, next time you may accidentally get shot, so never do that again"
  • edited August 2013
    Good grief, from the looks of it practically any kid who is not Clementine is more or less doomed to be hated, alive or dead, or walker even.
  • edited August 2013
    i think it's an age/perception thing, once people reach a certain age they are no longer adorable eg. if clementine was Becca's age and she put bugs on Duck's pillow it wouldn't have been cute, it would have been bullying, if she had snuck out to find Lee when told to stay in the house at Becca's age it would have been dangerous and irresponsible not so sweet that she misses Lee etc.

    i just think people are giving her a hard time without realising they are judging her because of her age and think she should know better
  • edited August 2013
    RichWalk23 wrote: »
    Good grief, from the looks of it practically any kid who is not Clementine is more or less doomed to be hated, alive or dead, or walker even.

    Maybe, but Clementine has enough smarts to know not to jump out and pretend to be a zombie when everyone is on edge, you can't do that shit anymore.
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