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Where are all the smokers?

The LawThe Law
edited August 2013 in The Walking Dead
In this thread we post weird things we've noticed.

I don't smoke personally, but I can't recall any smokers in TWD - be it the game or the comic...

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo

We've had drinkers (Chuck; Kenny; Nate), drug addicts (Bandits; Bonnie), and even cannibals, but I don't think we've had any smokers show up yet.

Weird, huh?
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  • FirewallcanoFirewallcano
    edited August 2013
    Are u kidding??? There's only so much violence you can have in a game!

    Killing, Crazy people, Violence but smoking ... think of the children :(

    Lol but no really they would be one of the first things to run out, they mention about how cigs run out pretty quick post prison arc.

    Though I agree we havn't seen a smoker in any variance in the walking dead... it is slightly odd; actually was there one in the TV show I forget..
  • The LawThe Law
    edited August 2013
    Firewallcano wrote: »
    Are u kidding??? There's only so much violence you can have in a game!

    Killing, Crazy people, Violence but smoking ... think of the children :(

    Lol but no really they would be one of the first things to run out, they mention about how cigs run out pretty quick post prison arc

    But not Alcohol?
  • FirewallcanoFirewallcano
    edited August 2013
    The Law wrote: »
    But not Alcohol?

    We didn't see it that much to be fair... Once was chuck's private stash.

    Then there was some left in the house which hadn't been raided. That's it. Apart from that there wasn't any other examples
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited August 2013
    Reduced lung capacity... can't run away fast enough from the zombies...

    ...they're all dead. Each and every smoker on earth. :o
  • thestalkingheadthestalkinghead
    edited August 2013
    tobacco would be like gold for the first year or so of the apocalypse, it would be one of the first things i would stock up on for trading in the new apocalypse economy
  • BubbaFightsUnlimitedBubbaFightsUnlimited
    edited August 2013
    I'd only use it for trading.
    In the long run, smoking is only going to slow you down.
    Not worth it.
  • fabi777fabi777
    edited August 2013
    The bandits was drug addicts?! what?!
  • VelociraptoriusVelociraptorius
    edited August 2013
    TheGamingSquadMC wrote: »
    It's funny in my class the strongest and fastest people are smoking

    Quite possibly it's too early for the effects to materialize yet. Might take a decade or two :P
  • VengefulKennyVengefulKenny
    edited August 2013
    Dale smokes a cig during a deleted scene from season 2 :)
  • JakeJake Telltale Alumni
    edited August 2013
    All the smokers are in the Wolf Among Us.
  • JakeSt123JakeSt123
    edited August 2013
    Jake wrote: »
    All the smokers are in the Wolf Among Us.

    That's what I was thinking XD
  • The LawThe Law
    edited August 2013
    fabi777 wrote: »
    The bandits was drug addicts?! what?!

    Ben wasn't giving them food - he was giving them prescription Painkillers...
    Painkillers which contained Opium, according to Lily.
    Diet Heroin.

    EDIT: Also, if you talk to Brenda, she says something along the lines of "Them people in the forest are on drugs".
  • ZeruisZeruis
    edited August 2013
    Daryl and Martinez in the TV series smoke, as well as Abraham from the comics.
  • The LawThe Law
    edited August 2013
    Jake wrote: »
    All the smokers are in the Wolf Among Us.

    Good to know.
  • DildorDildor
    edited August 2013
    Let's not forget Wyatt and Eddie.
  • The LawThe Law
    edited August 2013
    Dildor wrote: »
    Let's not forget Wyatt and Eddie.

    Potheads don't count.
    "Pass the sticky in the glovebox..."
  • The LawThe Law
    edited August 2013
    Another weird thing I've noticed is the lack of Silencers - I understand that they're harder to get in America but you'd think looters would stock up, in order to negate the "Gunshots attract Walkers" policy that the series has...
  • DildorDildor
    edited August 2013
    The Law wrote: »
    Potheads don't count.

    Hah, ok then. :p
  • thestalkingheadthestalkinghead
    edited August 2013
    The Law wrote: »
    Another weird thing I've noticed is the lack of Silencers - I understand that they're harder to get in America but you'd think looters would stock up, in order to negate the "Gunshots attract Walkers" policy that the series has...

    silencers aren't silent, they are deceivers rather than silencers, meaning it makes the shot sound like it came from further away than it actually did, it would still attract zombies
  • HarpadarpaHarpadarpa
    edited August 2013
    It would be better than nothing, though. I'd like to see one with a character who doesn't seem like he'd have survived a minute, as to avoid another Molly.
  • Bioshock Infinite WDBioshock Infinite WD
    edited August 2013
    They also break after so many shots, and I believe only the military has them so they are really rare.
  • HarpadarpaHarpadarpa
    edited August 2013
    Well as was explained in episode 2, the military isn't jack shit anymore, so the first place I would raid is a military camp. Wouldn't you?
  • Bioshock Infinite WDBioshock Infinite WD
    edited August 2013
    Maybe there are not a whole lot of them left, or they are so heavily populated with walkers that is not worth it perhaps?
  • HarpadarpaHarpadarpa
    edited August 2013
    They'd be just as populated as the city, but with a big forest in between the city and the base, which probably wouldn't be such a problem.
  • thestalkingheadthestalkinghead
    edited August 2013
    but if you are going to go into the whole raiding military camps business, why don't more people have LMG's, grenades, rocket launchers, military vehicles and just stacks of guns and ammo, basically the answer is that "other people" have them and we don't see their stories, we see the stories of the guys that have the bare minimum to survive because they are the ones with the interesting "the walking dead" stories, the story of vault dwellers is left to other apocalypse fiction, the walking dead is about living on the edge and barely scraping by day to day
  • HarpadarpaHarpadarpa
    edited August 2013
    But is it really so unrealistic to have 1 to 2 silencers left behind?
  • thestalkingheadthestalkinghead
    edited August 2013
    Harpadarpa wrote: »
    But is it really so unrealistic to have 1 to 2 silencers left behind?

    not unrealistic, but more like too convenient for the walking dead, just like stacks of guns and ammo would be, and as i said they don't silence anything
  • HarpadarpaHarpadarpa
    edited August 2013
    Hm, yeah, I guess. But I'd just like to see one for once. Maybe it breaks pretty soon in, who knows? You know what was really convenient? Finding Chuck and his gun, but eh, no one complained.
  • The LawThe Law
    edited August 2013
    thestalkinghead wrote: »
    silencers aren't silent, they are deceivers rather than silencers, meaning it makes the shot sound like it came from further away than it actually did, it would still attract zombies
    thestalkinghead wrote: »
    not unrealistic, but more like too convenient for the walking dead, just like stacks of guns and ammo would be, and as i said they don't silence anything

    I know what a "Suppressor" or "Sound Moderator" is and what it does. I just say Silencer for the same reason I call a loaded magazine a Full Clip - to force Gun Nuts to try and educate the everyman.
    Seems to have worked...
    EDIT: They're to muffle the noise and hide muzzle flash - not to make the shot sound distant.

    Also, military-grade Silencers can be so effective that the only sound heard is that of the bolt operating. You're telling me Lee can run a Walker over with a car in neutral without drawing any attention and that's all fine and dandy with you, but a little tick-tick is like marching in a one-man band?

    And speaking of convenience: Carl's eye.
    EDIT: And Carl getting shot the first time.
    EDIT: Carl in general.
  • Bioshock Infinite WDBioshock Infinite WD
    edited August 2013
    Carl, just saying that name is convenience.
  • thestalkingheadthestalkinghead
    edited August 2013
    The Law wrote: »
    I know what a "Suppressor" or "Sound Moderator" is and what it does. I just say Silencer for the same reason I call a loaded magazine a Full Clip - to force Gun Nuts to try and educate the everyman.
    Seems to have worked...
    EDIT: They're to muffle the noise and hide muzzle flash - not to make the shot sound distant.

    Also, military-grade Silencers can be so effective that the only sound heard is that of the bolt operating. You're telling me Lee can run a Walker over with a car in neutral without drawing any attention and that's all fine and dandy with you, but a little tick-tick is like marching in a one-man band?

    And speaking of convenience: Carl's eye.
    EDIT: And Carl getting shot the first time.
    EDIT: Carl in general.

    yeah they muffle the noise, and the effect of muffling the noise is that it sounds like it is further away than it is, and no i never told you anything about Lee running over a zombie in neutral, that must have been someone else :confused:

    but yeah i totally agree about carl
  • The LawThe Law
    edited August 2013
    thestalkinghead wrote: »
    i never told you anything about Lee running over a zombie in neutral

    I was just using it as an example of something that really is convenient.
    Silencers seem quite reasonable compared to it.

    They don't even have to be factory-made. The inner-workings of a Silencer are not dissimilar to a car muffler - with the know-how, one could easily craft a Silencer out of an oil filter...
  • Bioshock Infinite WDBioshock Infinite WD
    edited August 2013
    Not that most people would know how to make a silencer with a car muffler.
  • HarpadarpaHarpadarpa
    edited August 2013
    lol, finding a silencer on the ground is more common than the every-day skill to switch every-day car parts into silencers.
  • Bioshock Infinite WDBioshock Infinite WD
    edited August 2013
    That is true, what type of person would even know how to do that anyway.
  • The LawThe Law
    edited August 2013
    Bioshock Infinite WD wrote: »
    Not that most people would know how to make a silencer with a car muffler.

    Oil. Filter.
  • HarpadarpaHarpadarpa
    edited August 2013
    The Law wrote: »
    Oil. Filter.

    Like that makes a difference. How many people do you know that know that?
  • The LawThe Law
    edited August 2013
    Harpadarpa wrote: »
    Like that makes a difference. How many people do you know that know that?

    Funnily enough it only just hit me when I said:
    The Law wrote:
    They're to muffle the noise
    Got me thinking about car mufflers and the similarities between the two.
    Was thinking about what you'd use as your base, starting with other car parts.

    And now you and everyone else who read that post knows.
    You're welcome.
  • HarpadarpaHarpadarpa
    edited August 2013
    Most of us don't know the complete anatomy of a car either. And those who don't don't often mix their cars and guns.
  • The LawThe Law
    edited August 2013
    Just started digging around on the 'net.

    Looks like others have beat me to it:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t_pcWPdSDs

    EDIT: Aiming would be ridiculous now that I see it.
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