Dude, leave all the Kenny fans alone. They are humans just like you, how would you feel like if people would make fun of you for being a Lilly fan and say "You are team Lilly because you want to have sex with her".
Eh, I guess that makes sense. It still seems like a bit of a leap, but I guess it's not that big.
I really really hope that it is her, because I am a super villain and my power source comes from the tears of Kenny fans.
Ok, I understand the alleyway scene, but the dark building?
What do we know? There could've easily been a simple exit for Kenny right? He could have stopped his speech because he'd found an exit, or there were too many walkers and had to run. We don't KNOW.
There were characters that died very quickly who were named in Season 1. Jolene, Beatrice and a bunch of the bandits had names and all died pretty quickly.
I agree that it probably isn't Kenny or Lilly, but there are very very few options if it isn't.
Personally I don't think it becomes just a Kenny or Lilly battle.
I think it will be someone lame, like Winston or the girl in the bathroom… more. Having a named and voiced character die so quickly, despite being a Walking Dead story, seems odd.
If it is either of these then it paves the way for further conflict that Clem has to deal with, let bygones be bygones or hold on to distrust.
I just think its funny that this thread is getting thumbs down. Look people I don't care if its Kenny but there is literally not one PLAUSIBLE and POSSIBLE way its Kenny. And as I write this I know you people will reply with the same theories you just said. Once again every argument that involves Kenny is some way being the figure in episode 2, is based off complete guesses and hopeful thinking. Saying its Lily is the only logical and at this point only correct choice.
Yes the building scene he could of survived. The alley scene- No way. Telltale has not once made any decision matter and by that I mean the end is the same for everyone regardless of your choices to get there. What I mean is if kenny died in one scene there is 100% chance that he died in the other.
Ok, I understand the alleyway scene, but the dark building?
What do we know? There could've easily been a simple exit for Kenny right? He c… moreould have stopped his speech because he'd found an exit, or there were too many walkers and had to run. We don't KNOW.
Exactly, your being an asshole for no reason other then wanting to be an asshole, I for one like Kenny, he was a good character, no need to kill someone over an opinion.
Dude, leave all the Kenny fans alone. They are humans just like you, how would you feel like if people would make fun of you for being a Lilly fan and say "You are team Lilly because you want to have sex with her".
Hey,what if it's Molly?I know it makes little to no sense but it isn't impossible,nor illogi-well I suppose it is a little illogical since 0nobody saw her die,and she wasn't in a possible death scenario either,unless you didn't save her from that walker.
I just think its funny that this thread is getting thumbs down. Look people I don't care if its Kenny but there is literally not one PLAUSIBLE… more and POSSIBLE way its Kenny. And as I write this I know you people will reply with the same theories you just said. Once again every argument that involves Kenny is some way being the figure in episode 2, is based off complete guesses and hopeful thinking. Saying its Lily is the only logical and at this point only correct choice.
Personally I think its a better chance of being ken than lilly. Just her response "I thought you were dead" doesnt really fit with lilly becau… morese she was alive last time. While I agree with you kenny probably should be dead, I dont think it would be a plot hole if he comes back. Tyreese has come out of similar situations in the comic and tv show.
And based off:
* Telltale blatantly saying "We'll be exploring Kenny's fate in Season 2"
* We didn't see his "death."
Also,
* Lee has the option to say he wasn't sure if Kenny died when Christa and Omid asked.
He might have just decided to wander if he survived, and ended up going north purely by chance. Or maybe the group he found (if it's him) were in the area of Savannah, and they decided to head north together. In the ZA, heading north is just as common as finding a boat (Kenny's other plan), so King Kenny of the Obvious Plan has more reason to go north than you may think. Although Clem meeting someone that she thought was dead for a year (Kenny OR Lilly) is pretty unlikely no matter who it is.
Hm...From episode 1 it could be Glenn,but he is in the comics so it is impossible.
Then from episode 2 I'm thinking about Andy.Yes I know you get the choice to kill him,but if you screw up in the fight with him then you will eventually get a prompt that throws him against the electric fence and he still survives,although he stays too long in his death scene against it.
I don't think there's a possible character in episodes 3.
Can't be Vernon since Omid and Christa probably told Clem he and his group stole the boat and she can't assume he's dead.Nothing in episode 5 either.
It is impossible for Lee or Omid to come back,then there's Christa,Lily and Kenny.
And on my last note:the random cunt girl that fucking shot Omid in the same episode.Makes sense since she saw her get gut shot,couldn't have instantly died,they probably left before she died to let her suffer so yeah...
So,I've narrowed it to:
-Andy(highly unlikely)
-Christa(quite possible actually)
-Lily(very high on possibility,although could give plot holes with "I thought you were dead!")
-Kenny(Which I would personally love it to be,however it could kill the game,it might work out really well if telltale knows what to do but I wouldn't bet on it)
-Random cut girl that shot Omid(My newest thought on the matter which,to me,makes the most sense and fits the theory very well.You would think that kind of a person that loots a 9 year old girl would actually join bandits.)
So there you have it.Phew,that was a lot of writing!
At the very least, I would like someone who believes Kenny is coming back to give a good explanation as to how that could happen without it being an incredible asspull on the part of the writers. Especially if you saved Ben in Episode 4 and Kenny stays behind to protect him.
You saw the alleyway they were in. There were walkers coming from both directions, Kenny didn't have enough bullets, and there were no grates or manhole covers or anything for someone to escape into even if there were time for that...which there wasn't.
If Kenny isn't dead, I don't know what the explanation could possibly be for him being alive.
Hey,what if it's Molly?I know it makes little to no sense but it isn't impossible,nor illogi-well I suppose it is a little illogical since 0no… morebody saw her die,and she wasn't in a possible death scenario either,unless you didn't save her from that walker.
While I agree with you that Kenny died in the alleyway, and that he could have survived the building scene, Telltale also said that there would be more story branching in Season 2. If it IS Kenny or someone else, and just based on which of his final scenes you got last season, whoever it is will probably be shoved to the sidelines for most of the Season, much like Carley/Doug was. Remember, just because both Carley and Doug died doesn't mean that Kenny IS DEFINATELY dead. Whoever you saved in Episode 1 last season was still around for two more Episodes before they bit the bullet. If it is him, just because he survived Savannah doesn't mean he can't die later, which I'm fully expecting to happen if it IS him.
Yes the building scene he could of survived. The alley scene- No way. Telltale has not once made any decision matter and by that I mean the en… mored is the same for everyone regardless of your choices to get there. What I mean is if kenny died in one scene there is 100% chance that he died in the other.
While I agree with you that Kenny died in the alleyway, and that he could have survived the building scene, Telltale also said that there woul… mored be more story branching in Season 2. If it IS Kenny or someone else, and just based on which of his final scenes you got last season, whoever it is will probably be shoved to the sidelines for most of the Season, much like Carley/Doug was. Remember, just because both Carley and Doug died doesn't mean that Kenny IS DEFINATELY dead. Whoever you saved in Episode 1 last season was still around for two more Episodes before they bit the bullet. If it is him, just because he survived Savannah doesn't mean he can't die later, which I'm fully expecting to happen if it IS him.
And based off:
* Telltale blatantly saying "We'll be exploring Kenny's fate in Season 2"
* We didn't see his "death."
Also,
* Lee has the option to say he wasn't sure if Kenny died when Christa and Omid asked.
Definitely not the girl who shot Omid. Girl was in the season for combined 2 minutes. Wouldn't make sense to make such a huge "I thought you were dead " comment over her to end the trailer for episode 2
What about the girl in the beginning of season 2 episode 1?The one that shot Omid?She was gut shot,still breathing and Christa probably left with Clem so she could let her suffer.It fits the "I thought you were dead" line,and apparently NOBODY thought about it yet
At the very least, I would like someone who believes Kenny is coming back to give a good explanation as to how that could happen without it be… moreing an incredible asspull on the part of the writers. Especially if you saved Ben in Episode 4 and Kenny stays behind to protect him.
You saw the alleyway they were in. There were walkers coming from both directions, Kenny didn't have enough bullets, and there were no grates or manhole covers or anything for someone to escape into even if there were time for that...which there wasn't.
If Kenny isn't dead, I don't know what the explanation could possibly be for him being alive.
At the very least, I would like someone who believes Kenny is coming back to give a good explanation as to how that could happen without it be… moreing an incredible asspull on the part of the writers. Especially if you saved Ben in Episode 4 and Kenny stays behind to protect him.
You saw the alleyway they were in. There were walkers coming from both directions, Kenny didn't have enough bullets, and there were no grates or manhole covers or anything for someone to escape into even if there were time for that...which there wasn't.
If Kenny isn't dead, I don't know what the explanation could possibly be for him being alive.
He got shot with what seemed to be 3 shotgun shells,those were clearly gauge shells,which means at least about 12 metal fragments inside his gut,there's no way he survived.
I'd say it's more than likely Kenny. Look at it rationally: 1) We don't hear screaming, presumably what any person would do if they were to be bitten by zombies.
2) Omid and Christa more than likely told Clem what they thought happened to Kenny, since they were partly witnesses to it.
3) Clem saw Lilly drive off, alive. No real reason for her to think her dead.
Well, why not? They said our choices from Season 1 would matter in Season 2, and since Kenny got two completely different "death" scenes, having him be alive or not depending on which one you had would be one of the bigger ways they could show it. It's not like giving Irene the gun at the motel, or killing the St. Johns or not will (probably) matter in Season 2, since they have no relation to what's happening. But with the promise of both "greater story branching", "Kenny's Fate will be explored", and "Season 1 choices will matter in Season 2", I think it's a possibility.
What about the girl in the beginning of season 2 episode 1?The one that shot Omid?She was gut shot,still breathing and Christa probably left w… moreith Clem so she could let her suffer.It fits the "I thought you were dead" line,and apparently NOBODY thought about it yet
I think we should not read too much into the tone and inflection of how Clem says "I thought you were dead." Some people have said she seemed scared of the person- I viewed it as she was shocked the person was alive. And that shock could quickly turn to joy if it's someone she's happy to see.
I think it's safe to assume that in the however many days/weeks/months between the end of Season 1 and the beginning of season 2 before Omid dies and/or in the 16 month time jump that Clem might have learned what happened to everyone even if she wasn't there per se. TTG can't show EVERYTHING that happened and it's perfectly reasonable that Clem would have asked at some point "Hey, what happened to Kenny?" Presumably they'd tell her the truth, he didn't make it- which would also lead Clem to believe "I thought you were dead."
Kenny could very realistically be alive- I know, I know, I think he's dead too but the sheer fact that you don't see him dying does not mean he's definitely dead. He could have jumped in that dumpster and hid, Molly could have come back and saved him, or he could have just pulled a Lee and charged through the walkers without getting bit. Maybe there was a ground floor window or a sewer he escaped into. I agree all seem a little unlikely but if it turns out he jumped through a window and took off or hid in a dumpster or if Molly the ninja rapelled down the wall and saved him I wouldn't be shocked and calling BS- it could have happened without being too far fetched. AND it'd be likely that Christa/Omid would have told Clem he was dead because they just assumed he was done for then Clem would have every reason to say "I thought you were dead."
Likewise with Lilly- Clem knows she took off and it wouldn't be a stretch for her to have just assumed she died, seeing as she didn't see her again. The whole "I thought you were dead" thing is really being overanalyzed in my opinion. In this world if you don't see someone for 12 hours I don't think it's a leap to think they're dead, let alone a year and a half.
Since I'm running on the "Clem seemed more shocked than scared" angle I think it can definitely be Christa. Again, Clem might assume she's dead because she found her backpack and that guy- or maybe she'll meet someone early in episode 2 that tells her/shows her something that leads her to believe Christa died.
Everyones assuming whoever it is is with a group of bandits. Why? I only saw them standing at a door and opening it. Right before that there was a dude with a gun but who doesn't have a gun these days? They could be friendly. Or at least not necessarily the bandits they're worried about. Could be just another group of survivors.
Dude from the river- it's possible and I do think we'll run into him again but I don't think he's memorable enough to warrant that much shock from Clem. My money is on Kenny because we didn't see him die and it's completely realistic that Clem was told he was dead or Lilly because we don't see her die and it's realistic that Clem would have just assumed. or Christa- because Clem could have surmised she was dead because she never saw her again, saw the dude by the river, and found her backpack from the camp. Also not ruling out the possibility that early on in episode 2 something happens to give Clem the impression that Christa died. I.e. Nick goes out hunting or something and finds Christas jacket all bloodied up or something.
Of all of them I do think Christa is the most realistic but also probably the most obvious. In any case I'll be fine with how it turns out. I jut can't wait to see and I really hope the "I thought you were dead" moment isn't the cliff-hanger ending to episode 2 and we have to wait until episode 3 to find out who it is :-/
People it definitely is not unless TTG gets supernatural with it: Lee, Duck, Katjaa, Lilly's dad, Carly- all main or main-ish characters that have visible on-screen deaths.
For me in the Christa one there is a small chance of escape, Kenny randomly had more than 1 bullet in that one and he could have found a way out but even that would mean fighting through darkness and walkers with no melee weapon
However the Ben version there is no way, A walker appears to bite him and they are literally almost on him as he runs off screen to shoot ben, no bullets and no melee weapon how is it possible hes not even that good a fighter. An to get through a manhole or window requires time
Either way I fail to see how and why he will cross paths with clem again, why is he in the area. If he is alive I want a good step by step explanation of his escape
He got shot with what seemed to be 3 shotgun shells,those were clearly gauge shells,which means at least about 12 metal fragments inside his gut,there's no way he survived.
What Im saying is that telltale never make "choices matter" as in regardless of choices you end up with the same result. It seems extreme to make it across seasons none the less episodes.
Well, why not? They said our choices from Season 1 would matter in Season 2, and since Kenny got two completely different "death" scenes, havi… moreng him be alive or not depending on which one you had would be one of the bigger ways they could show it. It's not like giving Irene the gun at the motel, or killing the St. Johns or not will (probably) matter in Season 2, since they have no relation to what's happening. But with the promise of both "greater story branching", "Kenny's Fate will be explored", and "Season 1 choices will matter in Season 2", I think it's a possibility.
For me in the Christa one there is a small chance of escape, Kenny randomly had more than 1 bullet in that one and he could have found a way … moreout but even that would mean fighting through darkness and walkers with no melee weapon
However the Ben version there is no way, A walker appears to bite him and they are literally almost on him as he runs off screen to shoot ben, no bullets and no melee weapon how is it possible hes not even that good a fighter. An to get through a manhole or window requires time
Either way I fail to see how and why he will cross paths with clem again, why is he in the area. If he is alive I want a good step by step explanation of his escape
I agree it's not likely but we'll never know for sure until we get to play the episode. I'm just saying personally I could see a scenario in which Kenny is still alive that isn't too far fetched and beyond the realm of possibility. Also, Pete does say that he heard amputation does work and we've seen that in TWD universe so far so it's possible that Kenny could have fought his way out of the alley, been bitten, but cut his arm off or foot or some such. The only reason it doesn't work on Lee is because he doesn't do it immediately. Or maybe Molly came back to the house, having a change of heart and wanted to continue on with the group but she's too late, the balcony has fallen, she sees whats going on with Kenny and helps him. I agree it's a HUGE "what if" but I can't honestly say it's horribly unrealistic and implausible.
I'm on the "it's not Kenny" train as well I just don't see it as being impossible, that's all.
I really hope it's not Lilly. Lilly is the worst, I like LARRY more then I liked Lilly. At least Larry had comic relief. All Lily ever did was kill two better characters.
Personally I think its a better chance of being ken than lilly. Just her response "I thought you were dead" doesnt really fit with lilly becau… morese she was alive last time. While I agree with you kenny probably should be dead, I dont think it would be a plot hole if he comes back. Tyreese has come out of similar situations in the comic and tv show.
Just to throw this out there since we're speculating like crazy- but some people are guessing that Christa dies if you choose the "sneak away" option instead of the distract option...
What if the "I thought you were dead" person CHANGES based on your choices!
Look we know that certain people are going to die anyway. Look at season 1- anytime you saved a person instead of someone else it didn't matter. Whatever choice you made that person wound up dying later on anyway. So it's possible that if you choose to distract the guy attacking Christa she lives and she's the "I thought you were dead person" and if you sneak away instead it's possible that person is someone else! If Christa is going to die anyway it's simply a matter of when. And let's say Kenny is alive- he can be revealed or revealed later. Or Lilly.
I'm just saying I wouldn't be shocked if we could have different outcomes
Anyone can think of what ifs. Maybe Kenny was in fact a fairy and flew out the alley. What if the zombies turned back to humans and ignored Kenny. I just think its funny people are actually writing their own stories to make it seem like Kenny is somehow alive. I don't mean to insult you or anything but saying he escaped cut off his arm is a stretch, which I know you said. Its the same for the person saying Clem found out about Kenny through Christa and Omid. Unfortunately, Telltale doesn't leave much up to the imagination off the screen I mean.
I agree it's not likely but we'll never know for sure until we get to play the episode. I'm just saying personally I could see a scenario in w… morehich Kenny is still alive that isn't too far fetched and beyond the realm of possibility. Also, Pete does say that he heard amputation does work and we've seen that in TWD universe so far so it's possible that Kenny could have fought his way out of the alley, been bitten, but cut his arm off or foot or some such. The only reason it doesn't work on Lee is because he doesn't do it immediately. Or maybe Molly came back to the house, having a change of heart and wanted to continue on with the group but she's too late, the balcony has fallen, she sees whats going on with Kenny and helps him. I agree it's a HUGE "what if" but I can't honestly say it's horribly unrealistic and implausible.
I'm on the "it's not Kenny" train as well I just don't see it as being impossible, that's all.
Just to throw this out there since we're speculating like crazy- but some people are guessing that Christa dies if you choose the "sneak away"… more option instead of the distract option...
What if the "I thought you were dead" person CHANGES based on your choices!
Look we know that certain people are going to die anyway. Look at season 1- anytime you saved a person instead of someone else it didn't matter. Whatever choice you made that person wound up dying later on anyway. So it's possible that if you choose to distract the guy attacking Christa she lives and she's the "I thought you were dead person" and if you sneak away instead it's possible that person is someone else! If Christa is going to die anyway it's simply a matter of when. And let's say Kenny is alive- he can be revealed or revealed later. Or Lilly.
I'm just saying I wouldn't be shocked if we could have different outcomes
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Dude, leave all the Kenny fans alone. They are humans just like you, how would you feel like if people would make fun of you for being a Lilly fan and say "You are team Lilly because you want to have sex with her".
Ok, I understand the alleyway scene, but the dark building?
What do we know? There could've easily been a simple exit for Kenny right? He could have stopped his speech because he'd found an exit, or there were too many walkers and had to run. We don't KNOW.
There were characters that died very quickly who were named in Season 1. Jolene, Beatrice and a bunch of the bandits had names and all died pretty quickly.
I agree that it probably isn't Kenny or Lilly, but there are very very few options if it isn't.
I just think its funny that this thread is getting thumbs down. Look people I don't care if its Kenny but there is literally not one PLAUSIBLE and POSSIBLE way its Kenny. And as I write this I know you people will reply with the same theories you just said. Once again every argument that involves Kenny is some way being the figure in episode 2, is based off complete guesses and hopeful thinking. Saying its Lily is the only logical and at this point only correct choice.
Yes the building scene he could of survived. The alley scene- No way. Telltale has not once made any decision matter and by that I mean the end is the same for everyone regardless of your choices to get there. What I mean is if kenny died in one scene there is 100% chance that he died in the other.
Exactly, your being an asshole for no reason other then wanting to be an asshole, I for one like Kenny, he was a good character, no need to kill someone over an opinion.
Hey,what if it's Molly?I know it makes little to no sense but it isn't impossible,nor illogi-well I suppose it is a little illogical since 0nobody saw her die,and she wasn't in a possible death scenario either,unless you didn't save her from that walker.
And based off:
Also,
Are we 4getting about the bandit in the river? It could be him though
I already said what I think they mean by exploring his fate. Which is they will show him as a walker or give some other hint that he is dead.
I personally don't think we have to. Being cornered by 20+ zombies with no logical or even possible escape doesn't leave much for the imagination.
Fair point. But I don't think because it gives you a choice to say that is evidence he might not have died.
Agree to disagree. Theres really nothing anyone can say to prove another wrong. Guess well wait till episode 2.
I think its molly and kenny. this would explain how kenny got out of that situation
He might have just decided to wander if he survived, and ended up going north purely by chance. Or maybe the group he found (if it's him) were in the area of Savannah, and they decided to head north together. In the ZA, heading north is just as common as finding a boat (Kenny's other plan), so King Kenny of the Obvious Plan has more reason to go north than you may think. Although Clem meeting someone that she thought was dead for a year (Kenny OR Lilly) is pretty unlikely no matter who it is.
Hm...From episode 1 it could be Glenn,but he is in the comics so it is impossible.
Then from episode 2 I'm thinking about Andy.Yes I know you get the choice to kill him,but if you screw up in the fight with him then you will eventually get a prompt that throws him against the electric fence and he still survives,although he stays too long in his death scene against it.
I don't think there's a possible character in episodes 3.
Can't be Vernon since Omid and Christa probably told Clem he and his group stole the boat and she can't assume he's dead.Nothing in episode 5 either.
It is impossible for Lee or Omid to come back,then there's Christa,Lily and Kenny.
And on my last note:the random cunt girl that fucking shot Omid in the same episode.Makes sense since she saw her get gut shot,couldn't have instantly died,they probably left before she died to let her suffer so yeah...
So,I've narrowed it to:
-Andy(highly unlikely)
-Christa(quite possible actually)
-Lily(very high on possibility,although could give plot holes with "I thought you were dead!")
-Kenny(Which I would personally love it to be,however it could kill the game,it might work out really well if telltale knows what to do but I wouldn't bet on it)
-Random cut girl that shot Omid(My newest thought on the matter which,to me,makes the most sense and fits the theory very well.You would think that kind of a person that loots a 9 year old girl would actually join bandits.)
So there you have it.Phew,that was a lot of writing!
At the very least, I would like someone who believes Kenny is coming back to give a good explanation as to how that could happen without it being an incredible asspull on the part of the writers. Especially if you saved Ben in Episode 4 and Kenny stays behind to protect him.
You saw the alleyway they were in. There were walkers coming from both directions, Kenny didn't have enough bullets, and there were no grates or manhole covers or anything for someone to escape into even if there were time for that...which there wasn't.
If Kenny isn't dead, I don't know what the explanation could possibly be for him being alive.
i dont think it's molly. i think its kenny because the fans will not let him die
While I agree with you that Kenny died in the alleyway, and that he could have survived the building scene, Telltale also said that there would be more story branching in Season 2. If it IS Kenny or someone else, and just based on which of his final scenes you got last season, whoever it is will probably be shoved to the sidelines for most of the Season, much like Carley/Doug was. Remember, just because both Carley and Doug died doesn't mean that Kenny IS DEFINATELY dead. Whoever you saved in Episode 1 last season was still around for two more Episodes before they bit the bullet. If it is him, just because he survived Savannah doesn't mean he can't die later, which I'm fully expecting to happen if it IS him.
I don't think they would story branch over seasons though.
It's the "Head popper" (lily)
that's her ammo? (spelling?, lol)
leaving a trail of popped heads.
kenny should be dead.
Definitely not the girl who shot Omid. Girl was in the season for combined 2 minutes. Wouldn't make sense to make such a huge "I thought you were dead " comment over her to end the trailer for episode 2
What about the girl in the beginning of season 2 episode 1?The one that shot Omid?She was gut shot,still breathing and Christa probably left with Clem so she could let her suffer.It fits the "I thought you were dead" line,and apparently NOBODY thought about it yet
This.
I don't think they care, they just want kenny back they don't care about a great plot.
He got shot with what seemed to be 3 shotgun shells,those were clearly gauge shells,which means at least about 12 metal fragments inside his gut,there's no way he survived.
I hate Kenny, and I'll be pissed if it's him.
Team Lily!
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I'd say it's more than likely Kenny. Look at it rationally: 1) We don't hear screaming, presumably what any person would do if they were to be bitten by zombies.
2) Omid and Christa more than likely told Clem what they thought happened to Kenny, since they were partly witnesses to it.
3) Clem saw Lilly drive off, alive. No real reason for her to think her dead.
Well, why not? They said our choices from Season 1 would matter in Season 2, and since Kenny got two completely different "death" scenes, having him be alive or not depending on which one you had would be one of the bigger ways they could show it. It's not like giving Irene the gun at the motel, or killing the St. Johns or not will (probably) matter in Season 2, since they have no relation to what's happening. But with the promise of both "greater story branching", "Kenny's Fate will be explored", and "Season 1 choices will matter in Season 2", I think it's a possibility.
maybe but it looks alot like kenny
I think we should not read too much into the tone and inflection of how Clem says "I thought you were dead." Some people have said she seemed scared of the person- I viewed it as she was shocked the person was alive. And that shock could quickly turn to joy if it's someone she's happy to see.
I think it's safe to assume that in the however many days/weeks/months between the end of Season 1 and the beginning of season 2 before Omid dies and/or in the 16 month time jump that Clem might have learned what happened to everyone even if she wasn't there per se. TTG can't show EVERYTHING that happened and it's perfectly reasonable that Clem would have asked at some point "Hey, what happened to Kenny?" Presumably they'd tell her the truth, he didn't make it- which would also lead Clem to believe "I thought you were dead."
Kenny could very realistically be alive- I know, I know, I think he's dead too but the sheer fact that you don't see him dying does not mean he's definitely dead. He could have jumped in that dumpster and hid, Molly could have come back and saved him, or he could have just pulled a Lee and charged through the walkers without getting bit. Maybe there was a ground floor window or a sewer he escaped into. I agree all seem a little unlikely but if it turns out he jumped through a window and took off or hid in a dumpster or if Molly the ninja rapelled down the wall and saved him I wouldn't be shocked and calling BS- it could have happened without being too far fetched. AND it'd be likely that Christa/Omid would have told Clem he was dead because they just assumed he was done for then Clem would have every reason to say "I thought you were dead."
Likewise with Lilly- Clem knows she took off and it wouldn't be a stretch for her to have just assumed she died, seeing as she didn't see her again. The whole "I thought you were dead" thing is really being overanalyzed in my opinion. In this world if you don't see someone for 12 hours I don't think it's a leap to think they're dead, let alone a year and a half.
Since I'm running on the "Clem seemed more shocked than scared" angle I think it can definitely be Christa. Again, Clem might assume she's dead because she found her backpack and that guy- or maybe she'll meet someone early in episode 2 that tells her/shows her something that leads her to believe Christa died.
Everyones assuming whoever it is is with a group of bandits. Why? I only saw them standing at a door and opening it. Right before that there was a dude with a gun but who doesn't have a gun these days? They could be friendly. Or at least not necessarily the bandits they're worried about. Could be just another group of survivors.
Dude from the river- it's possible and I do think we'll run into him again but I don't think he's memorable enough to warrant that much shock from Clem. My money is on Kenny because we didn't see him die and it's completely realistic that Clem was told he was dead or Lilly because we don't see her die and it's realistic that Clem would have just assumed. or Christa- because Clem could have surmised she was dead because she never saw her again, saw the dude by the river, and found her backpack from the camp. Also not ruling out the possibility that early on in episode 2 something happens to give Clem the impression that Christa died. I.e. Nick goes out hunting or something and finds Christas jacket all bloodied up or something.
Of all of them I do think Christa is the most realistic but also probably the most obvious. In any case I'll be fine with how it turns out. I jut can't wait to see and I really hope the "I thought you were dead" moment isn't the cliff-hanger ending to episode 2 and we have to wait until episode 3 to find out who it is :-/
People it definitely is not unless TTG gets supernatural with it: Lee, Duck, Katjaa, Lilly's dad, Carly- all main or main-ish characters that have visible on-screen deaths.
For me in the Christa one there is a small chance of escape, Kenny randomly had more than 1 bullet in that one and he could have found a way out but even that would mean fighting through darkness and walkers with no melee weapon
However the Ben version there is no way, A walker appears to bite him and they are literally almost on him as he runs off screen to shoot ben, no bullets and no melee weapon how is it possible hes not even that good a fighter. An to get through a manhole or window requires time
Either way I fail to see how and why he will cross paths with clem again, why is he in the area. If he is alive I want a good step by step explanation of his escape
I guess its Lilly then
What Im saying is that telltale never make "choices matter" as in regardless of choices you end up with the same result. It seems extreme to make it across seasons none the less episodes.
there is no plausible way unless telltale bends the rules. Has to be Lily or Christa.
I agree it's not likely but we'll never know for sure until we get to play the episode. I'm just saying personally I could see a scenario in which Kenny is still alive that isn't too far fetched and beyond the realm of possibility. Also, Pete does say that he heard amputation does work and we've seen that in TWD universe so far so it's possible that Kenny could have fought his way out of the alley, been bitten, but cut his arm off or foot or some such. The only reason it doesn't work on Lee is because he doesn't do it immediately. Or maybe Molly came back to the house, having a change of heart and wanted to continue on with the group but she's too late, the balcony has fallen, she sees whats going on with Kenny and helps him. I agree it's a HUGE "what if" but I can't honestly say it's horribly unrealistic and implausible.
I'm on the "it's not Kenny" train as well I just don't see it as being impossible, that's all.
I really hope it's not Lilly. Lilly is the worst, I like LARRY more then I liked Lilly. At least Larry had comic relief. All Lily ever did was kill two better characters.
@killerb Um you know Kenny hasn't got his white belt right? He is nothing compared to Tyreese.
Just to throw this out there since we're speculating like crazy- but some people are guessing that Christa dies if you choose the "sneak away" option instead of the distract option...
What if the "I thought you were dead" person CHANGES based on your choices!
Look we know that certain people are going to die anyway. Look at season 1- anytime you saved a person instead of someone else it didn't matter. Whatever choice you made that person wound up dying later on anyway. So it's possible that if you choose to distract the guy attacking Christa she lives and she's the "I thought you were dead person" and if you sneak away instead it's possible that person is someone else! If Christa is going to die anyway it's simply a matter of when. And let's say Kenny is alive- he can be revealed or revealed later. Or Lilly.
I'm just saying I wouldn't be shocked if we could have different outcomes
Anyone can think of what ifs. Maybe Kenny was in fact a fairy and flew out the alley. What if the zombies turned back to humans and ignored Kenny. I just think its funny people are actually writing their own stories to make it seem like Kenny is somehow alive. I don't mean to insult you or anything but saying he escaped cut off his arm is a stretch, which I know you said. Its the same for the person saying Clem found out about Kenny through Christa and Omid. Unfortunately, Telltale doesn't leave much up to the imagination off the screen I mean.
that could be great