The apocalypse has been going on for at least 20 months. Sarah wont stay lucky for much longer. She needs to learn HOW to survive, because eventually there IS going to be a scenario where Carlos isn't around to protect her.
I know he's doing it out of love, but it will only risk her safety in the end,
I'm with DomeWing on this one.
Just asking, do any of you HAVE a child?
When you're a child, your perspectives on life are relatively si… moremple. You don't stop and think about the rest of the world and complicated things are hard to understand. Things like having fun, your family, and friends are what you might pay the most attention to.
But when all the sunshine and rainbows and multicolored kittens are replaced with death, death, and walkers, the quality of your child life drops significantly, to say the least.
Childhood should be the happiest time of your life.
And Carlos, instead of choosing to explain the intricate details about how there's an end to this " life " and it more or less results in you being transformed into a walking monster who wishes only to kill other human beings, and that thousands upon thousands of these monsters are roaming the Earth, (which has caused modern civilization to plunge into despair and crime to g… [view original content]
The apocalypse has been going on for at least 20 months. Sarah wont stay lucky for much longer. She needs to learn HOW to survive, because eve… morentually there IS going to be a scenario where Carlos isn't around to protect her.
I know he's doing it out of love, but it will only risk her safety in the end,
I'm not saying it's easy, it most certainly isn't. But it's going to be even HARDER for Carlos if he doesn't break that bond and has to watch his helpless child get eaten alive.
I'm not saying it's easy, it most certainly isn't. But it's going to be even HARDER for Carlos if he doesn't break that bond and has to watch his helpless child get eaten alive.
It's his child, if he wants to keep her in the dark then that's fine by me. My Clem told Carlos she wouldn't get involved and unless Telltale narratively force us to, she won't. I thought it better to have Carlos on my side than start a whole "let's alienate the doctor/leader by telling him what to do with his daughter" thing.
I'm sure his over-protecting isn't a good thing, but it's none of my business and I want it to stay that way.
It's his child, if he wants to keep her in the dark then that's fine by me. My Clem told Carlos she wouldn't get involved and unless Telltale … morenarratively force us to, she won't. I thought it better to have Carlos on my side than start a whole "let's alienate the doctor/leader by telling him what to do with his daughter" thing.
I'm sure his over-protecting isn't a good thing, but it's none of my business and I want it to stay that way.
Carlos can raise his daughter however he wants, and I chose to have Clem respect that. However, I will "manipulate" whoever I damn well please if my arm is split open and I urgently need medical supplies, because there is no way in hell that I will let Clem bleed and suffer just so some pseudo-doctor's daughter can live in blissful ignorance of the crumbling world around her.
I think Clementine has suffered more than enough as it is.
Carlos is not making a good decision by shielding her so much, in my opinion. Like Lee did with Clem, Carlos has to teach Sarah how to defend herself. Yes, I can understand where Carlos is coming from, but, in the world they live in, he won't be able to shield her forever. And I believe Carlos knows that. If Sarah is ill equipped, then I'm afraid she isn't going to make it very long.
Im not really even sure carlos could teach sarah if he needed to. By the time clem's group reached chuck, lilly had already drilled all the adults, and ben, on how to use a gun well. The hair makes alot of sense hearing it said plain, but as for using a weapon... i wouldnt be shocked if pete, nick and luke were the only ones that knew how to use a gun competently.
I'm with DomeWing on this one.
Just asking, do any of you HAVE a child?
When you're a child, your perspectives on life are relatively si… moremple. You don't stop and think about the rest of the world and complicated things are hard to understand. Things like having fun, your family, and friends are what you might pay the most attention to.
But when all the sunshine and rainbows and multicolored kittens are replaced with death, death, and walkers, the quality of your child life drops significantly, to say the least.
Childhood should be the happiest time of your life.
And Carlos, instead of choosing to explain the intricate details about how there's an end to this " life " and it more or less results in you being transformed into a walking monster who wishes only to kill other human beings, and that thousands upon thousands of these monsters are roaming the Earth, (which has caused modern civilization to plunge into despair and crime to g… [view original content]
I think Carlos is too overprotective, but he is right to try and shield her from that. He can keep her from experiencing this stuff, but he needs to realize that she wont be able to survive on her own without at least a basic understanding of what they are up against.
Sarah is fine and Carlos is fine, but he has the complete wrong idea on what is best for her daughter. He should let her understand the world slowly but surely.
I agree that Sarah should be told, but not everything at once, I think she would freak out and make a bad judgement call. Also if or if she didn't I think that the promise of friendship will came back and haunt Clementine. either way its going come back to us, its going to end badly.
I downvoted your post for the sole reason that you complained about trivial things. If you are so offended about a dislike, then why not sue Telltale hurrdurr
I get he's trying to protect her, but he doesn't get the best way to protect a kid in the ZA is teach them to protect themselves, stuff like Lee taught to Clem.
Hiding her away in her room is not going to keep her safe. Carlos is like Lilly in season 1, fox-holed, he's found a place that offers temporary safety and he's not looking at the big picture.
He's made no attempt to fortify the cabin, big fucking glass windows on the ground floor without any boards over them, WTF?
I can understand the man's care for his daughter, but he's doing more harm than good. He needs to look at the very real possibility that she's going to encounter a walker whern he isn't there to help her, and she needs to know how to deal with it, even if it's just how to avoid the stinking things.
If my daughter had a propensity to "cease to function" around walkers, I'd introduce them to her slowly, show her one tied up, and then one with it's legs broke, etc, teach her where the weak points are and how to avoid them.
His over protection may be motivated by concern but he's letting that concern cripple him to his responsibility as a parent. I get she's all he's got left, but he's going to lose her too unless he wakes the fuck up.
All this is besides the fact that he's either a liar or an incompetent asshole.
I'm with DomeWing on this one.
Just asking, do any of you HAVE a child?
When you're a child, your perspectives on life are relatively si… moremple. You don't stop and think about the rest of the world and complicated things are hard to understand. Things like having fun, your family, and friends are what you might pay the most attention to.
But when all the sunshine and rainbows and multicolored kittens are replaced with death, death, and walkers, the quality of your child life drops significantly, to say the least.
Childhood should be the happiest time of your life.
And Carlos, instead of choosing to explain the intricate details about how there's an end to this " life " and it more or less results in you being transformed into a walking monster who wishes only to kill other human beings, and that thousands upon thousands of these monsters are roaming the Earth, (which has caused modern civilization to plunge into despair and crime to g… [view original content]
Nick can use a gun but he's no where near competent. Pete told Clem he had trigger block when he's aiming for living thing, and he's so fucking stupid he doesn't know to keep his finger straight until he's ready to lay down fire.
Im not really even sure carlos could teach sarah if he needed to. By the time clem's group reached chuck, lilly had already drilled all the ad… moreults, and ben, on how to use a gun well. The hair makes alot of sense hearing it said plain, but as for using a weapon... i wouldnt be shocked if pete, nick and luke were the only ones that knew how to use a gun competently.
See, I told him she had to grow up sometime, because I meant it as genuine advice, not sarcastically. because of genuine concern for her, as Sarah's obviously not prepared.
Thing is, all kids are different, Clem was probably more mature when Lee met her than Sarah is now, but Chuck was right about walkers not discriminating.
It's certainly an awkward situation, and I've decided I've had Clem say her thing, and as it's not really her concern, I'm gonna sit this one out, and just hope it doesn't end badly.
I just hope it doesn't all blow up and end up with Clem in danger because of Carlos and Sarah.
Yeah I have a kid, younger than Sarah.
I get he's trying to protect her, but he doesn't get the best way to protect a kid in the ZA is teac… moreh them to protect themselves, stuff like Lee taught to Clem.
Hiding her away in her room is not going to keep her safe. Carlos is like Lilly in season 1, fox-holed, he's found a place that offers temporary safety and he's not looking at the big picture.
He's made no attempt to fortify the cabin, big fucking glass windows on the ground floor without any boards over them, WTF?
I can understand the man's care for his daughter, but he's doing more harm than good. He needs to look at the very real possibility that she's going to encounter a walker whern he isn't there to help her, and she needs to know how to deal with it, even if it's just how to avoid the stinking things.
If my daughter had a propensity to "cease to function" around walkers, I'd introduce them to her slowly, show her one tied up, a… [view original content]
Carlos is not making a good decision by shielding her so much, in my opinion. Like Lee did with Clem, Carlos has to teach Sarah how to defend … moreherself. Yes, I can understand where Carlos is coming from, but, in the world they live in, he won't be able to shield her forever. And I believe Carlos knows that. If Sarah is ill equipped, then I'm afraid she isn't going to make it very long.
Yeah I have a kid, younger than Sarah.
I get he's trying to protect her, but he doesn't get the best way to protect a kid in the ZA is teac… moreh them to protect themselves, stuff like Lee taught to Clem.
Hiding her away in her room is not going to keep her safe. Carlos is like Lilly in season 1, fox-holed, he's found a place that offers temporary safety and he's not looking at the big picture.
He's made no attempt to fortify the cabin, big fucking glass windows on the ground floor without any boards over them, WTF?
I can understand the man's care for his daughter, but he's doing more harm than good. He needs to look at the very real possibility that she's going to encounter a walker whern he isn't there to help her, and she needs to know how to deal with it, even if it's just how to avoid the stinking things.
If my daughter had a propensity to "cease to function" around walkers, I'd introduce them to her slowly, show her one tied up, a… [view original content]
Of course I understand that he wants to protect her so she doesn't worry or anything, but he can't keep her in the dark forever, especially if he doesn't end up making it. She's going to experience it one way or another.
Yeah I have a kid, younger than Sarah.
I get he's trying to protect her, but he doesn't get the best way to protect a kid in the ZA is teac… moreh them to protect themselves, stuff like Lee taught to Clem.
Hiding her away in her room is not going to keep her safe. Carlos is like Lilly in season 1, fox-holed, he's found a place that offers temporary safety and he's not looking at the big picture.
He's made no attempt to fortify the cabin, big fucking glass windows on the ground floor without any boards over them, WTF?
I can understand the man's care for his daughter, but he's doing more harm than good. He needs to look at the very real possibility that she's going to encounter a walker whern he isn't there to help her, and she needs to know how to deal with it, even if it's just how to avoid the stinking things.
If my daughter had a propensity to "cease to function" around walkers, I'd introduce them to her slowly, show her one tied up, a… [view original content]
It's a difficult situation. No one would like being told they are putting there daughter at risk, especially if it was coming from a stranger who's a child herself.
I had to at least get my point across to him, and if Clem get's the chance I may have her give Sarah a few pointers. Carlos may want her away from his daughter but I get the feeling there's a lot Sarah could learn just by being around Clem, especially the right attitude where walkers are concerned.
You don't need to be scared of them, you're smarter than them all, they're slow, you're fast.
It's a difficult situation. No one would like being told they are putting there daughter at risk, especially if it was coming from a stranger … morewho's a child herself.
I had to at least get my point across to him, and if Clem get's the chance I may have her give Sarah a few pointers. Carlos may want her away from his daughter but I get the feeling there's a lot Sarah could learn just by being around Clem, especially the right attitude where walkers are concerned.
You don't need to be scared of them, you're smarter than them all, they're slow, you're fast.
Like Lee said "Fear is what will kill us"
I'm on Martins side. This isnt a question of "What if". It WILL happen. She will see a lot of crazy and cruel things and she need to prepare for this. She will die if she dont learn how to live in such a cruel world. Even if she's grown to a women. The world is hard and the people who lived in it, needs to become hard too or they will die. Yes it is hard But clem made it too.
If carlos down prepare her for a world full of walkers, she will end up dead or worse. There are a lot of crazy motherfuckers like nate, negan, brian, the stranger or other psychos and bandits.
See, I told him she had to grow up sometime, because I meant it as genuine advice, not sarcastically. because of genuine concern for her, as … moreSarah's obviously not prepared.
Thing is, all kids are different, Clem was probably more mature when Lee met her than Sarah is now, but Chuck was right about walkers not discriminating.
It's certainly an awkward situation, and I've decided I've had Clem say her thing, and as it's not really her concern, I'm gonna sit this one out, and just hope it doesn't end badly.
I just hope it doesn't all blow up and end up with Clem in danger because of Carlos and Sarah.
I'm missing something here...Sarah does know about the walkers right? in my playthrough after I told her about my bite she said ''Was it one of them?''
she knows of them, but she's been kept from things like watching her neighbors get ripped to bloody, meaty pieces, or having brain matter and blood explode onto her as somebody blows a walker's head off. stuff like that is how i took it.
I'm missing something here...Sarah does know about the walkers right? in my playthrough after I told her about my bite she said ''Was it one of them?''
during past episodes of walking dead when a character dies they have a moment with the player and it builds a connection. with Duck, he gets to be to be Robin, Katja she gets to be with her son, Kenny saving Ben/Saving Christa so on and so forth, I feel that the bond with Clem and Sarah is longer this time around, so I don't if she is around for a few more episodes. That or its a big build up to a tragic story.
I agree that Sarah should be told, but not everything at once, I think she would freak out and make a bad judgement call. Also if or if she di… moredn't I think that the promise of friendship will came back and haunt Clementine. either way its going come back to us, its going to end badly.
by him sheltering her so much, he's only delaying the inevitable. Once he goes (or if she is ever abandoned) she will definitely die unless she is saved by others. His perspective is understandable, however she is embarrassingly under-prepared, and there will be serious problems because of this - which will probably be used by TellTale in the later episodes. The thing with Clementine is that she has been forced to see the world as it is in order to survive, but she has still preserved her hope and humanity (albeit slightly shaken after her experiences). The problem with Becca is that for some reason she didn't preserve her humanity, she just became callous and cruel, and I guess that there is a real danger that many children would be the same under the circumstances. In that sense, Clem is almost unique in her personality
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The apocalypse has been going on for at least 20 months. Sarah wont stay lucky for much longer. She needs to learn HOW to survive, because eventually there IS going to be a scenario where Carlos isn't around to protect her.
I know he's doing it out of love, but it will only risk her safety in the end,
Love is a very tight bond to break. Especially for a child.
It's a bond that's easier to break, than to watch your child get eaten alive.
Try making that bold of a statement after you have a child yourself.
I'm not saying it's easy, it most certainly isn't. But it's going to be even HARDER for Carlos if he doesn't break that bond and has to watch his helpless child get eaten alive.
I agree. The guy does more harm than good.
There's a ton of " what if " scenarios involved here, so we'll just have to see how it plays out.
It's his child, if he wants to keep her in the dark then that's fine by me. My Clem told Carlos she wouldn't get involved and unless Telltale narratively force us to, she won't. I thought it better to have Carlos on my side than start a whole "let's alienate the doctor/leader by telling him what to do with his daughter" thing.
I'm sure his over-protecting isn't a good thing, but it's none of my business and I want it to stay that way.
I'm with you, although I wish it didn't have to be such a difficult situation.
Carlos can raise his daughter however he wants, and I chose to have Clem respect that. However, I will "manipulate" whoever I damn well please if my arm is split open and I urgently need medical supplies, because there is no way in hell that I will let Clem bleed and suffer just so some pseudo-doctor's daughter can live in blissful ignorance of the crumbling world around her.
I think Clementine has suffered more than enough as it is.
Carlos is not making a good decision by shielding her so much, in my opinion. Like Lee did with Clem, Carlos has to teach Sarah how to defend herself. Yes, I can understand where Carlos is coming from, but, in the world they live in, he won't be able to shield her forever. And I believe Carlos knows that. If Sarah is ill equipped, then I'm afraid she isn't going to make it very long.
Im not really even sure carlos could teach sarah if he needed to. By the time clem's group reached chuck, lilly had already drilled all the adults, and ben, on how to use a gun well. The hair makes alot of sense hearing it said plain, but as for using a weapon... i wouldnt be shocked if pete, nick and luke were the only ones that knew how to use a gun competently.
I think Carlos is too overprotective, but he is right to try and shield her from that. He can keep her from experiencing this stuff, but he needs to realize that she wont be able to survive on her own without at least a basic understanding of what they are up against.
Sarah is fine and Carlos is fine, but he has the complete wrong idea on what is best for her daughter. He should let her understand the world slowly but surely.
Yeah it's harsh. I feel kind of cold because of it, but it's just not my place to get involved.
I agree that Sarah should be told, but not everything at once, I think she would freak out and make a bad judgement call. Also if or if she didn't I think that the promise of friendship will came back and haunt Clementine. either way its going come back to us, its going to end badly.
I downvoted your post for the sole reason that you complained about trivial things. If you are so offended about a dislike, then why not sue Telltale hurrdurr
She gotta be aware of the flu
Yeah I have a kid, younger than Sarah.
I get he's trying to protect her, but he doesn't get the best way to protect a kid in the ZA is teach them to protect themselves, stuff like Lee taught to Clem.
Hiding her away in her room is not going to keep her safe. Carlos is like Lilly in season 1, fox-holed, he's found a place that offers temporary safety and he's not looking at the big picture.
He's made no attempt to fortify the cabin, big fucking glass windows on the ground floor without any boards over them, WTF?
I can understand the man's care for his daughter, but he's doing more harm than good. He needs to look at the very real possibility that she's going to encounter a walker whern he isn't there to help her, and she needs to know how to deal with it, even if it's just how to avoid the stinking things.
If my daughter had a propensity to "cease to function" around walkers, I'd introduce them to her slowly, show her one tied up, and then one with it's legs broke, etc, teach her where the weak points are and how to avoid them.
His over protection may be motivated by concern but he's letting that concern cripple him to his responsibility as a parent. I get she's all he's got left, but he's going to lose her too unless he wakes the fuck up.
All this is besides the fact that he's either a liar or an incompetent asshole.
Nick can use a gun but he's no where near competent. Pete told Clem he had trigger block when he's aiming for living thing, and he's so fucking stupid he doesn't know to keep his finger straight until he's ready to lay down fire.
See, I told him she had to grow up sometime, because I meant it as genuine advice, not sarcastically. because of genuine concern for her, as Sarah's obviously not prepared.
Thing is, all kids are different, Clem was probably more mature when Lee met her than Sarah is now, but Chuck was right about walkers not discriminating.
It's certainly an awkward situation, and I've decided I've had Clem say her thing, and as it's not really her concern, I'm gonna sit this one out, and just hope it doesn't end badly.
I just hope it doesn't all blow up and end up with Clem in danger because of Carlos and Sarah.
Good post. I totally agree.
Thx dude
This dude says it best
Turtle-y agree with you.
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STAY AWAY FROM MY DAUGHTER..~ Carlos
Carlos needs to meet someone like Chuck.
Of course I understand that he wants to protect her so she doesn't worry or anything, but he can't keep her in the dark forever, especially if he doesn't end up making it. She's going to experience it one way or another.
Some good points here.
It's a difficult situation. No one would like being told they are putting there daughter at risk, especially if it was coming from a stranger who's a child herself.
I had to at least get my point across to him, and if Clem get's the chance I may have her give Sarah a few pointers. Carlos may want her away from his daughter but I get the feeling there's a lot Sarah could learn just by being around Clem, especially the right attitude where walkers are concerned.
You don't need to be scared of them, you're smarter than them all, they're slow, you're fast.
Like Lee said "Fear is what will kill us"
I agree with this, but the situation is so volatile.
Carlos will eventually realize he's doing something wrong, but it could be too late.
I'm on Martins side. This isnt a question of "What if". It WILL happen. She will see a lot of crazy and cruel things and she need to prepare for this. She will die if she dont learn how to live in such a cruel world. Even if she's grown to a women. The world is hard and the people who lived in it, needs to become hard too or they will die. Yes it is hard But clem made it too.
If carlos down prepare her for a world full of walkers, she will end up dead or worse. There are a lot of crazy motherfuckers like nate, negan, brian, the stranger or other psychos and bandits.
Godd one here
Totally agree. Chuck had the balls to tell those overprotective parents the truth...why the fuck did he die so soon...
atleast cut her hair :P
I'm missing something here...Sarah does know about the walkers right? in my playthrough after I told her about my bite she said ''Was it one of them?''
she knows of them, but she's been kept from things like watching her neighbors get ripped to bloody, meaty pieces, or having brain matter and blood explode onto her as somebody blows a walker's head off. stuff like that is how i took it.
during past episodes of walking dead when a character dies they have a moment with the player and it builds a connection. with Duck, he gets to be to be Robin, Katja she gets to be with her son, Kenny saving Ben/Saving Christa so on and so forth, I feel that the bond with Clem and Sarah is longer this time around, so I don't if she is around for a few more episodes. That or its a big build up to a tragic story.
by him sheltering her so much, he's only delaying the inevitable. Once he goes (or if she is ever abandoned) she will definitely die unless she is saved by others. His perspective is understandable, however she is embarrassingly under-prepared, and there will be serious problems because of this - which will probably be used by TellTale in the later episodes. The thing with Clementine is that she has been forced to see the world as it is in order to survive, but she has still preserved her hope and humanity (albeit slightly shaken after her experiences). The problem with Becca is that for some reason she didn't preserve her humanity, she just became callous and cruel, and I guess that there is a real danger that many children would be the same under the circumstances. In that sense, Clem is almost unique in her personality
"You deserved better, old man." - Lee