Okay, there is where we disagree completely. You think the show is just there to make money and not art? You laugh at it? You have higher standards for a video game than a long-running tv show? I have to ponder that for a bit and respond when I come home from work.
Exactly how you or I would react? Well, exactly is a strong word, but the closer the better. It wasn't that it was harder or easier to anima… morete, it's that they obviously didn't even try. There have been plenty of times someone has held a gun up to their eye and fired in this game, so what purpose did it serve to unrealistically have them shoot from the hip? A shout out to the cod boys perhaps?
I don't usually nit pick, me and my friends would laugh about the little slips in the show, but nothing that would be taken seriously. I have higher standards for the game, the show is there to make money and while the end goal for the game is the same it has proven much more a piece of art than a trivial milking. I'd rather expect the best from the game than sit back and laugh at it (like the show).
While I don't feel these problems were bad enough to put any merit into them, I still think the more you show you are paying attention and that you care the more likely telltale is to pay attention and care.
Indeed, take your time. While you ponder the response take into account some other things.
Characterization in the game vs show
Connection to characters in the game vs show
Emotional appeal of the game vs show
Don't get me wrong the show is interesting, which explains why it is still running. It is just on a completely different level than the game. So yeah I believe amc doesn't give a fuck what they create (and therefore I, myself, would never classify it as art) as long as it puts a wad of cash in their pockets. I laugh at it feverishly, it's as much a comedy as a drama or anything else to me. In the end I have much, much, much, higher standards for the game
Okay, there is where we disagree completely. You think the show is just there to make money and not art? You laugh at it? You have higher st… moreandards for a video game than a long-running tv show? I have to ponder that for a bit and respond when I come home from work.
So you're saying that those things you mention, the game excels at over the show. If that's your honest opinion, I can't argue with you. It's a matter of seeing things differently. I'm more invested in the show and I have a lot of emotional attachment to the characters. I think this season in particular has done a particularly good job and developing the characters. As for the artisticness of it, I've many times been impressed with the touches they've put in the show to make it not just a zombiefest but to make it beautiful with creative camera work and great choices of music. To act like it's just slapped together just to make a buck is doing everyone involved in it such a disservice. AMC has put out a least one other quality show that Im personally a fan of so I certainly don't agree that they don't care. I'm not going to change your mind because your manner is so contemptuous of the show and AMC in general so suffice it to say that I'm sorry that you feel that way about the show but that's an opinion I don't share. I'm a great fan of it as well as of the game and I think they both are good at what they do.
Indeed, take your time. While you ponder the response take into account some other things.
Characterization in the game vs show
Connec… moretion to characters in the game vs show
Emotional appeal of the game vs show
Don't get me wrong the show is interesting, which explains why it is still running. It is just on a completely different level than the game. So yeah I believe amc doesn't give a fuck what they create (and therefore I, myself, would never classify it as art) as long as it puts a wad of cash in their pockets. I laugh at it feverishly, it's as much a comedy as a drama or anything else to me. In the end I have much, much, much, higher standards for the game
Personally I think Carver just shrugging off the bullet, getting up and shooting Alvin without making a sound was actually very well done. There's that brief moment where he's down, everyone is shocked and possibly think it's over. Next thing you know he's back up and goes back to work with almost mechanical precision. Thoughts of the Terminator came to mind in that scene to me.
That can be you opinion but all that's running through my head is 'how the fuck is that even possible,' but to each their own. Everyone I know and every one they know, even the ones that follow the show whole heartedly, aren't very impressed with the emotional connection to the chatacters. The clichés are unbearable. Amc would put a monkey kicking a telephone pole on their channel if it made them money. They honestly don't care in the slightest. In the end I am a fan of the show also, I just don't believe it is special, at all.
But all of the last portion of this conversation has been off topic. Realism breaking in a game based on realism is... breaking (if bad enough).
So you're saying that those things you mention, the game excels at over the show. If that's your honest opinion, I can't argue with you. It'… mores a matter of seeing things differently. I'm more invested in the show and I have a lot of emotional attachment to the characters. I think this season in particular has done a particularly good job and developing the characters. As for the artisticness of it, I've many times been impressed with the touches they've put in the show to make it not just a zombiefest but to make it beautiful with creative camera work and great choices of music. To act like it's just slapped together just to make a buck is doing everyone involved in it such a disservice. AMC has put out a least one other quality show that Im personally a fan of so I certainly don't agree that they don't care. I'm not going to change your mind because your manner is so contemptuous of the show and AMC in general so suffice it to say that I'm sor… [view original content]
If he had on Kevlar a .22 wouldn't penetrate. It'd be highly unlikely even at close range, and then considering it went through a thick ski lodge window. Too much blood for that. Either it's a higher caliber, or he had no Kevlar. It's a good theory though, because I'm certain they'd have found a bunch.
What if Carver was smart and wearing a bullet resistant vest under his coat?
EDIT: It would certainly explain how he is able to be so casual about being shot at right up until he got shot.
Kenny got shot in the gut at close range with no obstacle in between in episode 2 (season 1 ) and he was okay. Who knows that injury might have future implications
Yeah, maybe he made a makeshift body armour - steel plating or something. It wouldn't be enough to stop the bullet, but would certainly reduce the damage it did.
If he had on Kevlar a .22 wouldn't penetrate. It'd be highly unlikely even at close range, and then considering it went through a thick ski … morelodge window. Too much blood for that. Either it's a higher caliber, or he had no Kevlar. It's a good theory though, because I'm certain they'd have found a bunch.
Yeah but it was lower down (still found it stupid he survived though). AND he showed severe pain afterwards - he didn't get back up and attack Andy StJohn again and he had to practically limp back to the motel. I doubt it will have future implications - i would imagine they would have been shown by now - but you never know ,this is the TWD.
Kenny got shot in the gut at close range with no obstacle in between in episode 2 (season 1 ) and he was okay. Who knows that injury might have future implications
About your debate in huge recoil, some AK-47s come in small calibers such as .22, just saying.
Anyway I think we're all thinking to much about this. Let's just enjoy the game (:
Since my only experience with guns is video games, I can't speak for the AK-47 thing. However, I'm pretty sure people who study, or even have studied biology know that a shot like that to the shoulder would not only cause immense pain, but intense bleeding, loss in muscle strength, and infection. Yeah, Carver shouldn't have gotten back from that. Then again, Clementine's arm isn't facing much problems. Do people heal a superspeed in the ZA?
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Okay, there is where we disagree completely. You think the show is just there to make money and not art? You laugh at it? You have higher standards for a video game than a long-running tv show? I have to ponder that for a bit and respond when I come home from work.
Indeed, take your time. While you ponder the response take into account some other things.
Characterization in the game vs show
Connection to characters in the game vs show
Emotional appeal of the game vs show
Don't get me wrong the show is interesting, which explains why it is still running. It is just on a completely different level than the game. So yeah I believe amc doesn't give a fuck what they create (and therefore I, myself, would never classify it as art) as long as it puts a wad of cash in their pockets. I laugh at it feverishly, it's as much a comedy as a drama or anything else to me. In the end I have much, much, much, higher standards for the game
So you're saying that those things you mention, the game excels at over the show. If that's your honest opinion, I can't argue with you. It's a matter of seeing things differently. I'm more invested in the show and I have a lot of emotional attachment to the characters. I think this season in particular has done a particularly good job and developing the characters. As for the artisticness of it, I've many times been impressed with the touches they've put in the show to make it not just a zombiefest but to make it beautiful with creative camera work and great choices of music. To act like it's just slapped together just to make a buck is doing everyone involved in it such a disservice. AMC has put out a least one other quality show that Im personally a fan of so I certainly don't agree that they don't care. I'm not going to change your mind because your manner is so contemptuous of the show and AMC in general so suffice it to say that I'm sorry that you feel that way about the show but that's an opinion I don't share. I'm a great fan of it as well as of the game and I think they both are good at what they do.
Personally I think Carver just shrugging off the bullet, getting up and shooting Alvin without making a sound was actually very well done. There's that brief moment where he's down, everyone is shocked and possibly think it's over. Next thing you know he's back up and goes back to work with almost mechanical precision. Thoughts of the Terminator came to mind in that scene to me.
That can be you opinion but all that's running through my head is 'how the fuck is that even possible,' but to each their own. Everyone I know and every one they know, even the ones that follow the show whole heartedly, aren't very impressed with the emotional connection to the chatacters. The clichés are unbearable. Amc would put a monkey kicking a telephone pole on their channel if it made them money. They honestly don't care in the slightest. In the end I am a fan of the show also, I just don't believe it is special, at all.
But all of the last portion of this conversation has been off topic. Realism breaking in a game based on realism is... breaking (if bad enough).
I said it probably isn't in response to Clem_is_Awesome saying that it was a 22 caliber.
If he had on Kevlar a .22 wouldn't penetrate. It'd be highly unlikely even at close range, and then considering it went through a thick ski lodge window. Too much blood for that. Either it's a higher caliber, or he had no Kevlar. It's a good theory though, because I'm certain they'd have found a bunch.
Omg that guy...he's so hillarious! Respect man!
Kenny got shot in the gut at close range with no obstacle in between in episode 2 (season 1 ) and he was okay. Who knows that injury might have future implications
Exactly. Once you start talking about zombies, you've lost all realism.
Exactly. Once you start talking about zombies, you've lost all realism.
Yeah, maybe he made a makeshift body armour - steel plating or something. It wouldn't be enough to stop the bullet, but would certainly reduce the damage it did.
Yeah but it was lower down (still found it stupid he survived though). AND he showed severe pain afterwards - he didn't get back up and attack Andy StJohn again and he had to practically limp back to the motel. I doubt it will have future implications - i would imagine they would have been shown by now - but you never know ,this is the TWD.
?22 AKs are semi, not automatic.
Since my only experience with guns is video games, I can't speak for the AK-47 thing. However, I'm pretty sure people who study, or even have studied biology know that a shot like that to the shoulder would not only cause immense pain, but intense bleeding, loss in muscle strength, and infection. Yeah, Carver shouldn't have gotten back from that. Then again, Clementine's arm isn't facing much problems. Do people heal a superspeed in the ZA?