The comic governor is about as one dimensional as you can get. The novels barely added any depth to him. And even then, it wasn't depth, it … morewas more like a sheet of paper being flipped where one side said ''weakling'' and the other ''sadist psycho written by a man who has no concept of how 'evil' characters work''.
Yea, my name speaks more than a thousands words ...anyway, the point is anyone who isn't totally insane would choose Kenny over Lilly. You don't necessarily have to like him, it's just the best and most logical thing to do.
Not necessarily. Carver's group consists of him, Bonnie, Trevor, and another guy. That's what 4 people? I doubt a settlement that large (seen in the 'next time' bit) is only for four to 11 people. There's bound to be many more people guarding it.
He's willing to travel days just to forcibly kidnap the pregnant woman he has an obsession with, and presumably raped
Also this means he probably left his settlement unattended.
I don't trust Carver one bit, fucking maniac! I don't trust cabin group either, and i don't trust Kenny... yet. Something's going on with these posses.
I think the most important thing to remember in all of this is what one of the major themes of this season is - trust. Who can you trust in a world in which the laws and social morals of the world we once knew are all but gone, if not gone completely? Also, how can you gain the trust of others without leaving yourself vunderable to attack or manipulation?
Also important to remember is the world of the Walking Dead is a grey one without clear black and white choices, and no wholly good or evil people. Even the worst of the worst has shown some justification of what they do - see the St. Johns as an example. The whole thing is more of a sliding scale than absolute two-sided coin. Carver may just be on the darker side of the scale than the Cabin group, but that doesn't mean that Cabin group is innocent - they may have just done things in the name of survival that they are now regretful for and are reluctant to tell an outsider (like Clem) about worried about what they might think.
The closest thing to a innocent person this season would have to be Sarah. Clem, even as a fairly decent person still, has seen and done too much to be even remotely innocent. That is a good thing, as being wary is a key to survival. I laugh at those that insinuate that the way to survive in the world like the Walking Dead basically amounts to being an asshole to everyone. The true secret to survival (in the Walking Dead or the real world) is to know who to trust and who not too, and to show to others you are one to be trusted, but not underestimated or fooled with.
I don't trust Carver one bit, fucking maniac! I don't trust cabin group either, and i don't trust Kenny... yet. Something's going on with these posses.
I like him in terms of that I like a villain. He's dead first chance I get but that doesnt mean you cant enjoy his charcater for what it is. A good villan
We still don't know everything about him, this discussion would be best held after ep 3 is released.
He's willing to travel days just … moreto forcibly kidnap the pregnant woman he has an obsession with, and presumably raped.
Nothing to suggest that so far.... He just wants to get his child and try to take care of him in the best way possible. As @X3Holy3 said, it's pretty much like how Lee searched the whole city for Clem and died in the process. Different methods but same goals.
He's killed members of your group and doesn't even feel any shame in it. Let's not forget him gut punching Clem.
Again, it's justified, as crazy as that sounds.... The only reason why he shot Walter was because Kenny killed Johnny, you make it sound like he killed him simply because he felt like it, there's a difference....
Its arguements like this that make me believe kenny fans would rather pick Kenny, who just murdered 20 innocent people for no good reason, over someone who absoutlely means well and is only looking out for clem, just like Lee..
May I add. He BROKE a mans fingers infront of this guy's daughter just to FORCE people to come out. The same person who he's been hunting down for week for persuembly selfish reasons,... Why are you guys forgetting that?
Are you sure we can assume he raped her? I recall her saying she was trying with Alvin and it just wasn't working out...something along those lines. I have a feeling it was not rape at all. Its never implied, to be honest. You can hate someone you've slept with without it being rape. Things probably happened afterwards..besides, people can cheat can regret it. And most people can see Carver is a pretty nasty guy.
Anyway, I am one of the few I guess who doesn't like him. He reminds me too much of the governor. Nasty guy. I hope he ends up being a good guy and that it was all perceived the wrong way, but how can anyone mistake a murderer for someone misunderstood?
Carver's a hardened man and he'd go out of his way to get what he wants. I can only imagine that he'll do the same for those that he cares about and he'll do what he can to make sure they're safe.
Carver's a hardened man and he'd go out of his way to get what he wants. I can only imagine that he'll do the same for those that he cares about and he'll do what he can to make sure they're safe.
Not necessarily. Carver's group consists of him, Bonnie, Trevor, and another guy. That's what 4 people? I doubt a settlement that large (seen in the 'next time' bit) is only for four to 11 people. There's bound to be many more people guarding it.
Eh, it made sense to me. But TV Gov is much more, comic purists whine that he isn't anything compared to comic Gov, yet he's so much more. He actually falls as Philip the brutal venting but mostly caring leader and becomes the Governor, instead of just being psycho in his introduction. David Morrissey helped lots
The comic governor is about as one dimensional as you can get. The novels barely added any depth to him. And even then, it wasn't depth, it … morewas more like a sheet of paper being flipped where one side said ''weakling'' and the other ''sadist psycho written by a man who has no concept of how 'evil' characters work''.
Eh, it made sense to me. But TV Gov is much more, comic purists whine that he isn't anything compared to comic Gov, yet he's so much more. H… moree actually falls as Philip the brutal venting but mostly caring leader and becomes the Governor, instead of just being psycho in his introduction. David Morrissey helped lots
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I liked the TV Governor more. At least I can be sympathetic of him.
He was definitely more well written, but still sadistic. But at least he wasn't a twirly moustache, Snidely Whiplash sort of villain.
Also this means he probably left his settlement unattended.
In Episode 5, te«here is gonna be a fight between Carver and Kenny, to decide who is the king of godlike moustaches.
Yea, my name speaks more than a thousands words
...anyway, the point is anyone who isn't totally insane would choose Kenny over Lilly. You don't necessarily have to like him, it's just the best and most logical thing to do.
Not necessarily. Carver's group consists of him, Bonnie, Trevor, and another guy. That's what 4 people? I doubt a settlement that large (seen in the 'next time' bit) is only for four to 11 people. There's bound to be many more people guarding it.
I don't trust Carver one bit, fucking maniac! I don't trust cabin group either, and i don't trust Kenny... yet. Something's going on with these posses.
I think the most important thing to remember in all of this is what one of the major themes of this season is - trust. Who can you trust in a world in which the laws and social morals of the world we once knew are all but gone, if not gone completely? Also, how can you gain the trust of others without leaving yourself vunderable to attack or manipulation?
Also important to remember is the world of the Walking Dead is a grey one without clear black and white choices, and no wholly good or evil people. Even the worst of the worst has shown some justification of what they do - see the St. Johns as an example. The whole thing is more of a sliding scale than absolute two-sided coin. Carver may just be on the darker side of the scale than the Cabin group, but that doesn't mean that Cabin group is innocent - they may have just done things in the name of survival that they are now regretful for and are reluctant to tell an outsider (like Clem) about worried about what they might think.
The closest thing to a innocent person this season would have to be Sarah. Clem, even as a fairly decent person still, has seen and done too much to be even remotely innocent. That is a good thing, as being wary is a key to survival. I laugh at those that insinuate that the way to survive in the world like the Walking Dead basically amounts to being an asshole to everyone. The true secret to survival (in the Walking Dead or the real world) is to know who to trust and who not too, and to show to others you are one to be trusted, but not underestimated or fooled with.
So your basically saying you don't trust anyone? That's kinda harsh.
I like him in terms of that I like a villain. He's dead first chance I get but that doesnt mean you cant enjoy his charcater for what it is. A good villan
Thank you.
But we still don't know if it's actually his child
So you made the gif?
Its arguements like this that make me believe kenny fans would rather pick Kenny, who just murdered 20 innocent people for no good reason, over someone who absoutlely means well and is only looking out for clem, just like Lee..
Hey! you said you'd shave his beard and mustache infront of clem to tourture her. Don't start defending it now! blasphemer!
May I add. He BROKE a mans fingers infront of this guy's daughter just to FORCE people to come out. The same person who he's been hunting down for week for persuembly selfish reasons,... Why are you guys forgetting that?
I said Carver will shave it, not save it...anyway, Touche!
Dammit mispell..! DAMN YOU TO HELL
That makes it worse.
1 reason. Michael Madsen is a badass
Yep.
You are awesome!
Are you sure we can assume he raped her? I recall her saying she was trying with Alvin and it just wasn't working out...something along those lines. I have a feeling it was not rape at all. Its never implied, to be honest. You can hate someone you've slept with without it being rape. Things probably happened afterwards..besides, people can cheat can regret it. And most people can see Carver is a pretty nasty guy.
Anyway, I am one of the few I guess who doesn't like him. He reminds me too much of the governor. Nasty guy. I hope he ends up being a good guy and that it was all perceived the wrong way, but how can anyone mistake a murderer for someone misunderstood?
Carver cravers lol XD. Anyway you explained it perfectly and i agree
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Carver's a hardened man and he'd go out of his way to get what he wants. I can only imagine that he'll do the same for those that he cares about and he'll do what he can to make sure they're safe.
When you put it like that, it actually makes me like him a little bit.
My point exactly.
I hate Carver -_- But I do have to admit, he is a great villain like you said.
You mean Troy?
Same. And if it makes sense, I made fan art for him because I like to hate him! Like Nate or Handsome Jack. :P
"Where's Rebecca?"
:O!!! Very nice! That's amazing! Oh and I didn't know you were CoolStoryBro! You changed your profile picture, what's up dude?
Yeah, I figured that it was time for a change.
And nothin' much is up, bro. How about yourself?
I saw the Harlem Globetrotters at my school last night!
Damn! You lucky sumbitch!
Eh, it made sense to me. But TV Gov is much more, comic purists whine that he isn't anything compared to comic Gov, yet he's so much more. He actually falls as Philip the brutal venting but mostly caring leader and becomes the Governor, instead of just being psycho in his introduction. David Morrissey helped lots
He is voiced by Michael Madsen what not to like about Carver.
Because they think he's a good guy.
........Coz he's like, totally hot and stuff?
Definitely.