A Difficult Scenario (Potential Spoilers)
Carver leads Clementine into a dark room. He flicks on a dim light, revealing Carlos strapped to a chair, badly beaten, barely conscious, and with blood streaming down either side of his face. There's a small knife lying next to him. Sarah is tied up on the floor about 15 ft from Carlos, sobbing uncontrollably.
"Carlos!" Clem cries out. She tries to run to him, but Carver holds her back, gun in hand. She turns to him. "What do you want?" Without speaking a word, Carver goes over to Sarah, grabs her by the hair, and puts his gun to her head.
"No! Stop!" Clem shouts.
Carver, amused, looks over at her. "You want me to stop? Well alright then. That's something I can do for you. But if I'm gonna do you a favor, there's something you gotta do for me."
Clem gets a look of concern on her face. "You see that knife on the floor next to our doctor friend? Pick it up." Clem hesitates. Carver pulls back the hammer of the gun. "Please."
Clem reluctantly picks up the knife. "So here's the thing. Little Sarah here has been begging me for hours not to kill her daddy. I tried to refuse her at first, but I guess she just wore me down. So I made her a promise. I won't kill Carlos in front of her. And I aim to keep that promise. Problem is, I really want him dead. You can see my dilemma. That's where you come in, sweetie."
Clem looks over at Carlos, distraught. "If you wouldn't mind just taking that knife there and plunging into Carlos's brain for me, that would save me a lot of trouble. 'Course, I could always do it myself. But then I'd have to kill poor Sarah here first. Don't want to have to do that. So what do you say? Can you do me that little favor?"
Clem looks down at the knife and then over at Carlos again. He lifts his head slightly. In a broken, raspy voice he mutters "Clem...please...do what he says."
What do you do? Do you make Clem kill an innocent man in front of his crying daughter or do you refuse and let Carver do as he will?
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Should be sleeping right now but damn i wouldn't know what to do, if i let Carver do it Sarah would prolly die too, and if Clem do it Carver would probably let Sarah live so every time she sees Clem she will remember that she killed her dad and that would make her suffer even more.
ugh, dude its too late for this, i'll come back later
I would plunge it in Carvers brain.
Sorry, but i won't do this sick man a favour...he must learn to repect the fact, that i don't accept his so called " love ".
By the way, it's really hard for me to believe that Carver would try to kill Carlos. He needs him alive, to deliver his baby!
Act like I'll stab Carlos and then stab Carver instead. Maybe do a Milton lol.
I specified that Sarah was 15 ft away from Carlos to ensure that this wasn't an option. There's no way for Clem to run over to Carver to stab him before he reacts. If you do this, he'll just shoot and kill Clem as well as Sarah. Still want to try it?
Maybe try something like this?
Where the hell is Kenny and his saltlicks when you need them?
I... I think I'd have to kill Carlos.
Sure, Sarah will hate Clementine and will be scarred for life, but Carlos AND Sarah would both die if I chose not to kill Carlos myself. Basically, I'd have to choose between two horrible choices, and I always try to choose the least worst choice.
I'd attempt to talk my way through it at first, but if my only literal courses of action were to kill Carlos or watch them both die? I'd probably begrudgingly do it.
"Sometimes you gotta play a role.. Even if it means people you love hate you for it."
Why would Carver even do that? It'd just be sick and pointless. Hes evil, but not a complete psychopath.
Oh god... Please don't give Telltale any more ideas!
I almost run away when I read this. Otherwise, it's a good idea.
The way Carver spoke in the Episode 3 preview made him sound like something of a cult leader. All that "brothers and sisters" and "welcoming them back into the fold" stuff.
One of the strategies that cult leaders utilize is breaking down alliances between people by pitting them against each other. Once a person is isolated from those around, it then becomes much easier to manipulate and control them since they have nothing else to lean on.
Having Clem kill Carlos in front of Sarah would surely cause a rift between Clem and Sarah while having Clem let Carver kill both of them would cause a rift between Clem and the rest of the group. Either way, Carver could then just swoop in and leverage that divisiveness to gain more influence over everyone involved.
I'd kill Carlos, but if that's the case Carver would be out a doctor. He wants his child to live more than anything else.
If you have that much faith in Clem's knife-throwing skills, then sure. Of course, seeing as how she's never done it before, chances are that you'd either miss entirely or end up hitting Sarah. If killing Carlos in front of Sarah would make you feel bad, think how you'd feel if you ended up killing Sarah in front of Carlos.
Eh, suppose in this scenario that Carver has found out that the child isn't his and has already killed both it and Rebecca.
Oh man is this sinister... I imagine as Clem gets ready to kill Carlos that Carver stops her and is actually bluffing to test their loyalty.
Could be. You never know with this guy. But are you willing to take the risk?
This scenario doesn't seem that difficult. I'd take the knife and plunge it through Carlos head. Problem solved.
But why would Carver even care about Clem..? Or Sarah for that matter? He wouldn't consider them that much of a threat. He would probably have one of the adult characters do it, if anything.
It's not about seeing Clem as a potential threat. it's about seeing her as a potential asset. Children can be more easily molded into what you want them to be. It's why warlords use child soldiers in their ranks. And there are certain benefits to having a child like Clem or even Sarah under your control. You can use them to manipulate people in ways you otherwise wouldn't be able to.
Huh. I...guess some things are more difficult for some people than for others.
I think you're realllllllly stretching here. Carver having the group turn on each other is one thing, but having Sarah turn on Clementine is probably not one of his top priorities. I still don't think Carver is dark enough to do something like this anyway.
It's even harder if you imagine the smile on Carver's face if you choose to kill Carlos. I think that alone could make choose not to kill Carlos. In fact, something that would be even crueler is that, if you choose not to kill Carlos, Carver just laughs and let's them both live, as if it all were a game. Then killing Carlos would make you feel like the worst person in the world.
It's The Walking Dead, not The Hunger Games...
Yeah, realistically, I don't think he'd do something like this either but I needed some sort of psychopath to make this scenario work and he seemed like best fit out of everyone we've met so far.
FUCK THIS CHOICE.
Umm...I would NEVER kill Carlos.I would just...Walk away...Like a true boss...
It was a joke. But anyway I would probably kill Carlos
. Its worth a try though. Maybe if it struck hard in his private part, leg, arm, or hand then Carver would drop the gun and clutch at the knife, and in that moment of pain Clem runs grabs the gun and shoots him? Maybe there could be a choice to kill Carlos or throw the knife and the knife kills Sarah, and Carver would let Carlos go. So basically save Sarah or Carlos. If Carlos then he hates you, and if Sarah she will be very broken and depressed.
Motherfucking smart options
Then he shoots you in the back, and you fail the QTE, lol.
So it wouldn't be possible to walk up to Carlos and surprise Carver when you're as close as you can get? Sorry, but my math skills suck.