"Gay" implies frivolity, a carefree attitude and unbridled, often unwarranted, joy. For many homosexuals in this country and throughout the … moreworld, that's neither their natural disposition or a luxury in their day to day life. To imply otherwise is an act of stereotyping which I just can't abide by, sorry. Out of respect for different lifestyles, I'd ask you to not use that terminology unless in abbreviated or acronym forms.
But to the point, is the assumption that homosexuals enjoy sexual and romantic relationships exclusively with members of the same-sex a homophobic attitude? This certainly suggests a predisposition to certain behaviors that may inform others, including tangential dispositions towards members of the opposite sex. This assumption is certainly neither "discriminatory" nor would it be unexpected.
For instance, having an avatar of two spacemen passionately liplocking might not be an optimal choice for a heterosexual man. … [view original content]
No she isn't, she's a teenager around adults who wants to prove that she's stronger than she actually is.
This kind of mindless Becca hat… moree really pisses me off, because while she is acting like an asshole, she isn't actually an asshole.
Look at her face if you kill the intruder. Listen to her refuse to shoot Stephanie after offering.
It's all there in the game, but everyone just thinks she's a two dimensional character.
Oh c'mon, give Flog61 a break. he can still change his bigoted ways and learn to accept others and see things from different points of view.
You need to keep a positive attitude or nothing can ever get better.
Honestly..
Ben.
I don't hate him, in fact i am a massive fan of him, he is incredibly annoying though because he screws up all the time.
Being annoyed does not mean you hate them
Excuse me, we're here to have a debate about sexual identity, the semiotics of identity politics and the prime movers of human behavior. If you can't find a way to be respectful in the discourse, I'd ask you not to interrupt the dialogue, ok? Ok.
Lemoncakes, can you please just shut up!
You are entitled to your opinion, but arguing about it is going nowhere but badly!
Now, can we all just sit and please eat some peaches and beans?
I like all characters, also the annoying people,
because they make it so fascinating. I love the
character development of each character.
Because it's a bad situation to live in an apocalypse.
It changes your character. So i can understand even
people like Becca.
Flog, while I completely agree with you, I think it's best to let this go and to just accept that some people are ignorant and/or trolls. It's sad, but we have to live with it. : /
Gay meaning happy is antiquated.
When did I say that assuming gay people have relations with the same-sex is homophobic?
I'm saying th… moreat the way you are talking to me and making sexual innuendos is homophobic, because you wouldn't do that to a straght person.
You're treating me differently to an unfair degree because of my sexual orientation, and that's pretty much the definition of homophobia.
Lemoncakes, can you please just shut up!
You are entitled to your opinion, but arguing about it is going nowhere but badly!
Now, can we all just sit and please eat some peaches and beans?
In what was is saying I should 'polish the lance' oh my 'knight in shining armor' being 'respectful'?!
You DON'T FUCKING UNDERSTAND what shit like this can do to people! Having it drummed into you day and night that you are DIFFERENT, that you are WORSE for something you CAN'T FUCKING CONTROL
YOU EVER WONDERED WHY THE SUICIDE RATE FOR GAY PEOPLE IS SO HIGH
YOU EVER WONDERED WHY 40% OF HOMELESS YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KICKED OUT BECAUSE OF THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION
YOU DON'T FUCKING UNDERSTAND WHAT words can DO to people, man
Excuse me, we're here to have a debate about sexual identity, the semiotics of identity politics and the prime movers of human behavior. If you can't find a way to be respectful in the discourse, I'd ask you not to interrupt the dialogue, ok? Ok.
I feel horrible for you, but if you keep talking to this ignorant fool he is only going to throw more of his crap to you. Ignore him. Ignore ALL those gay-hating bastards and be happy with yourself.
In what was is saying I should 'polish the lance' oh my 'knight in shining armor' being 'respectful'?!
You DON'T FUCKING UNDERSTAND what … moreshit like this can do to people! Having it drummed into you day and night that you are DIFFERENT, that you are WORSE for something you CAN'T FUCKING CONTROL
YOU EVER WONDERED WHY THE SUICIDE RATE FOR GAY PEOPLE IS SO HIGH
YOU EVER WONDERED WHY 40% OF HOMELESS YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KICKED OUT BECAUSE OF THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION
YOU DON'T FUCKING UNDERSTAND WHAT words can DO to people, man
Flog, while I completely agree with you, I think it's best to let this go and to just accept that some people are ignorant and/or trolls. It's sad, but we have to live with it. : /
I find the term "gay" offensive for its connotations and the history of the word. I'd ask you to respect that in the course of this conversation, thank you.
If you admit that human sexuality directly affects behavior, then it's a topic for discussion when it comes to disposition and opinion. I've not treated you unfairly once in the course of this conversation.
Conversely, you've made multiple assumptions about my sexuality, you've used "gay" as an insult, you've made unfounded claims about my opinion of minorities, admitted to repeatedly employing a misnomer and in doing so propagated ignorance and lies and, finally, engaged in passive discrimination against queer theory and bisexuality through the omission of their existence.
Honestly, Flog61, I think you need to calm down and take a good look at the things you've said in this reply chain.
Gay meaning happy is antiquated.
When did I say that assuming gay people have relations with the same-sex is homophobic?
I'm saying th… moreat the way you are talking to me and making sexual innuendos is homophobic, because you wouldn't do that to a straght person.
You're treating me differently to an unfair degree because of my sexual orientation, and that's pretty much the definition of homophobia.
I know dude, but it's just so fucking hard to ignore it and not try to change things
I mean, what if he does this shit to another gay guy… more or girl, one who is less used to this abuse than I am, and makes them really fucking upset?
I can't just sit back and let him act like this
I find the term "gay" offensive for its connotations and the history of the word. I'd ask you to respect that in the course of this conversa… moretion, thank you.
If you admit that human sexuality directly affects behavior, then it's a topic for discussion when it comes to disposition and opinion. I've not treated you unfairly once in the course of this conversation.
Conversely, you've made multiple assumptions about my sexuality, you've used "gay" as an insult, you've made unfounded claims about my opinion of minorities, admitted to repeatedly employing a misnomer and in doing so propagated ignorance and lies and, finally, engaged in passive discrimination against queer theory and bisexuality through the omission of their existence.
Honestly, Flog61, I think you need to calm down and take a good look at the things you've said in this reply chain.
Cheers man. I think I will stop replying, I just need to make sure that a mod sees this. Trouble is both private discussions and the report button don't work properly, so I'm having to find posts by them and reply to those in the hopes that they will see it and come sort things out.
Cheers man. I think I will stop replying, I just need to make sure that a mod sees this. Trouble is both private discussions and the report … morebutton don't work properly, so I'm having to find posts by them and reply to those in the hopes that they will see it and come sort things out.
Wow, calm down Flog61. I know it's painful to confront one's own prejudices when a mirror's held up, but it's a journey everyone has to take on their own and no excuse for all-caps posting.
Besides what's more respectful that knighthood and chivalry?
On that theme, here's your central problem in this thread and why you're having a meltdown.
You can either make something a non-issue or make it an issue.
Have a profile pic of two dudes making out? It's an issue. This is the "wear it like armor" defense or, as it was back in Post-Stonewall days "Here, Queer, DWI". A perfectly reasonable position, but one that invites discussion.
Screaming about victimhood and treating your sexuality like an affliction after it's a point of discussion? Tsk tsk tsk. That's a swing from Pride to Pity. You can only take that delicate-snowflake stance if you're not previously using a provocative posture.
This is why you look ridiculous in this instant, flailing like a man without a parachute as he plunges toward the earth, doomed to defeat in the discussion, undone, in tatters, wailing like a stuck pig and crawling for the forces of authority and convention to save you from something...different.
And if you were clever, you'd take the pleasure of seeing the irony in this.
In what was is saying I should 'polish the lance' oh my 'knight in shining armor' being 'respectful'?!
You DON'T FUCKING UNDERSTAND what … moreshit like this can do to people! Having it drummed into you day and night that you are DIFFERENT, that you are WORSE for something you CAN'T FUCKING CONTROL
YOU EVER WONDERED WHY THE SUICIDE RATE FOR GAY PEOPLE IS SO HIGH
YOU EVER WONDERED WHY 40% OF HOMELESS YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KICKED OUT BECAUSE OF THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION
YOU DON'T FUCKING UNDERSTAND WHAT words can DO to people, man
I think it's great that you actually tell WHY you dislike these characters, as opposed to the comments about "Becca is a biatch, lel" or "Duck is annojing su I hatez"
Smart people are rare on the internet, it seems. But when you find them, it's all worth it. Take my like! : )
Season One Duck & Larry. Both are pretty obvious as to why. I actually liked Duck though mind. But he was annoying in Episode 1 and 2 in… more particular.
400 Days Becca. And no, I didn't dislike her as much as most people. But she really did feel like an Anti-Clementine. Which (at the same time) I thought was pretty cool.
Season Two Carlos. I don't really know why, but I'm just not that fond of him at all. It probably it has something to do with him being an apparent doctor and still not being able to tell the difference between a dog bite and a Walker bite or perhaps when he asked Clementine how big the "Little house" was. Or perhaps the time he had no idea how to turn off the windmill but when the eleven year old girl said she could do it he thought it was fine and put 100% trust in her.
Honestly, I don't like Carlos too much. Is he annoying though? I found him annoying noticeably in Episode 1 for me. Not as much in Episode 2. In Ep… [view original content]
Excuse me, we're here to have a debate about sexual identity, the semiotics of identity politics and the prime movers of human behavior. If you can't find a way to be respectful in the discourse, I'd ask you not to interrupt the dialogue, ok? Ok.
I know dude, but it's just so fucking hard to ignore it and not try to change things
I mean, what if he does this shit to another gay guy… more or girl, one who is less used to this abuse than I am, and makes them really fucking upset?
I can't just sit back and let him act like this
Then he shouldn't have brought it up. He's the one replying in all caps like a 13 year old.
The only reason you're appealing to me is because I'm dominating him in the discussion.
Seriously his last direct response to me was him having a meltdown because earlier on I insinuated that, due to his profile pic of two dudes making out that he must not think about women a lot.
...
...
...no seriously go back and look, that's what he's quoting suicide statistics over. lol.
Then he shouldn't have brought it up. He's the one replying in all caps like a 13 year old.
The only reason you're appealing to me is bec… moreause I'm dominating him in the discussion.
Seriously his last direct response to me was him having a meltdown because earlier on I insinuated that, due to his profile pic of two dudes making out that he must not think about women a lot.
...
...
...no seriously go back and look, that's what he's quoting suicide statistics over. lol.
It had a cynical deconstruction feel to it, twisting the traditional "falling in love with a guy you just met" Disney cliche. It was a fresh take on the classic Disney story, hence all the acclaim and attention.
Lemoncakes, can you please just shut up!
You are entitled to your opinion, but arguing about it is going nowhere but badly!
Now, can we all just sit and please eat some peaches and beans?
I think it's great that you actually tell WHY you dislike these characters, as opposed to the comments about "Becca is a biatch, lel" or "Du… moreck is annojing su I hatez"
Smart people are rare on the internet, it seems. But when you find them, it's all worth it. Take my like! : )
I know dude, but it's just so fucking hard to ignore it and not try to change things
I mean, what if he does this shit to another gay guy… more or girl, one who is less used to this abuse than I am, and makes them really fucking upset?
I can't just sit back and let him act like this
What the fuck is wrong with you? When did you become the conductor of Telltale Games' forums? You're the one sounding like a thirteen year old, you pathetic, irritating asshole. Don't you have anything better to do but cower behind a computer, talking shit about a person with a different sexuality? It reminds me of how fucked we are as a species when I see comments like yours.
Comments
Gay meaning happy is antiquated.
When did I say that assuming gay people have relations with the same-sex is homophobic?
I'm saying that the way you are talking to me and making sexual innuendos is homophobic, because you wouldn't do that to a straght person.
You're treating me differently to an unfair degree because of my sexual orientation, and that's pretty much the definition of homophobia.
Sorry, I don't take kindly to discrimination. I'm kind of, ya know, a decent person?
Thanks, people these days are so quick to judge these days. : /
Oh c'mon, give Flog61 a break. he can still change his bigoted ways and learn to accept others and see things from different points of view.
You need to keep a positive attitude or nothing can ever get better.
Heh. Entertaining. I doubt I need to explain who I was actually referring to.
Honestly..
Ben.
I don't hate him, in fact i am a massive fan of him, he is incredibly annoying though because he screws up all the time.
Being annoyed does not mean you hate them
Excuse me, we're here to have a debate about sexual identity, the semiotics of identity politics and the prime movers of human behavior. If you can't find a way to be respectful in the discourse, I'd ask you not to interrupt the dialogue, ok? Ok.
I like all characters, also the annoying people,
because they make it so fascinating. I love the
character development of each character.
Because it's a bad situation to live in an apocalypse.
It changes your character. So i can understand even
people like Becca.
Flog, while I completely agree with you, I think it's best to let this go and to just accept that some people are ignorant and/or trolls. It's sad, but we have to live with it. : /
Yeah! Beans!
In what was is saying I should 'polish the lance' oh my 'knight in shining armor' being 'respectful'?!
You DON'T FUCKING UNDERSTAND what shit like this can do to people! Having it drummed into you day and night that you are DIFFERENT, that you are WORSE for something you CAN'T FUCKING CONTROL
YOU EVER WONDERED WHY THE SUICIDE RATE FOR GAY PEOPLE IS SO HIGH
YOU EVER WONDERED WHY 40% OF HOMELESS YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KICKED OUT BECAUSE OF THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION
YOU DON'T FUCKING UNDERSTAND WHAT words can DO to people, man
I feel horrible for you, but if you keep talking to this ignorant fool he is only going to throw more of his crap to you. Ignore him. Ignore ALL those gay-hating bastards and be happy with yourself.
I know dude, but it's just so fucking hard to ignore it and not try to change things
I mean, what if he does this shit to another gay guy or girl, one who is less used to this abuse than I am, and makes them really fucking upset?
I can't just sit back and let him act like this
I find the term "gay" offensive for its connotations and the history of the word. I'd ask you to respect that in the course of this conversation, thank you.
If you admit that human sexuality directly affects behavior, then it's a topic for discussion when it comes to disposition and opinion. I've not treated you unfairly once in the course of this conversation.
Conversely, you've made multiple assumptions about my sexuality, you've used "gay" as an insult, you've made unfounded claims about my opinion of minorities, admitted to repeatedly employing a misnomer and in doing so propagated ignorance and lies and, finally, engaged in passive discrimination against queer theory and bisexuality through the omission of their existence.
Honestly, Flog61, I think you need to calm down and take a good look at the things you've said in this reply chain.
It's your call. Just know that I support you and I'm sure most others do as well.
You know what? I've decided - the both of you are the most annoying characters.
/thread
Yeah I know Molly's a shit character but they'll figure it out in time.
Cheers man. I think I will stop replying, I just need to make sure that a mod sees this. Trouble is both private discussions and the report button don't work properly, so I'm having to find posts by them and reply to those in the hopes that they will see it and come sort things out.
You could also tag them with an ''@'' followed by their name. I think they'll get a notification that way, too.
Wow, calm down Flog61. I know it's painful to confront one's own prejudices when a mirror's held up, but it's a journey everyone has to take on their own and no excuse for all-caps posting.
Besides what's more respectful that knighthood and chivalry?
On that theme, here's your central problem in this thread and why you're having a meltdown.
You can either make something a non-issue or make it an issue.
Have a profile pic of two dudes making out? It's an issue. This is the "wear it like armor" defense or, as it was back in Post-Stonewall days "Here, Queer, DWI". A perfectly reasonable position, but one that invites discussion.
Screaming about victimhood and treating your sexuality like an affliction after it's a point of discussion? Tsk tsk tsk. That's a swing from Pride to Pity. You can only take that delicate-snowflake stance if you're not previously using a provocative posture.
This is why you look ridiculous in this instant, flailing like a man without a parachute as he plunges toward the earth, doomed to defeat in the discussion, undone, in tatters, wailing like a stuck pig and crawling for the forces of authority and convention to save you from something...different.
And if you were clever, you'd take the pleasure of seeing the irony in this.
Oh, thanks, that's good to know!
Well then let's try @Jennifer @puzzlebox
I think it's great that you actually tell WHY you dislike these characters, as opposed to the comments about "Becca is a biatch, lel" or "Duck is annojing su I hatez"
Smart people are rare on the internet, it seems. But when you find them, it's all worth it. Take my like! : )
There shouldn't be a debate about sexual identity at all! Those are conversations OUTSIDE of the forum!
Act like what, Flog61?
A poster who can reason circles around you and expose you as a biphobic bigot with paper-thin ego and a persecution complex?
You started this argument, I ended it. Sorry you got mad but that's how it works.
Then he shouldn't have brought it up. He's the one replying in all caps like a 13 year old.
The only reason you're appealing to me is because I'm dominating him in the discussion.
Seriously his last direct response to me was him having a meltdown because earlier on I insinuated that, due to his profile pic of two dudes making out that he must not think about women a lot.
...
...
...no seriously go back and look, that's what he's quoting suicide statistics over. lol.
She is an asshole. She's like the female version of Carl from the show.
That would be explosive! I hope Clem can stay out of fights, but damn Clem would kick the shit out her!
I'm not appealing to anyone. This is not the place to have a conversation like this. I don't care who started it: I'm ending it.
Beautiful. How'd that movie get so famous? I only heard of it recently.
It had a cynical deconstruction feel to it, twisting the traditional "falling in love with a guy you just met" Disney cliche. It was a fresh take on the classic Disney story, hence all the acclaim and attention.
Hahaha "I'M ENDING IT."
Sorry but, much like a giant anthropomorphic wolf, you're only a moderator in your wet dreams.
I wouldn't mind some peaches and beans. Sounds pretty good, which table we gonna sit at? Luke's or Kenny's?
Bad pun is bad ._.
Well, hate is a strong word. I said more on the lines of find annoying. But I'll admit, I dislike Larry and Carlos. Thanks though! =]
I know it's hard, Flo61, but you can't let this fucker get to you. There is nothing that we can do to change his mind.
Kenny's. Always Kenny's. It's fun to sit with an old friend rather than a Cluke shipper.
What the fuck is wrong with you? When did you become the conductor of Telltale Games' forums? You're the one sounding like a thirteen year old, you pathetic, irritating asshole. Don't you have anything better to do but cower behind a computer, talking shit about a person with a different sexuality? It reminds me of how fucked we are as a species when I see comments like yours.
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you...an asshole!
You disgust me.
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