Christa, Shel, Becca, Russell, Sarah. They all have annoyed me more than any other character way too many times, sadly they're all still alive. Not sure about Christa though.
Ben and his fucking uselessness. Even though my Lee was a good guy, I just couldn't be nice to Ben. I still saved him from the tower though.… more
Also, even though Kenny in the game is not really annoying, some of his fans annoy me to no end, which has led me to kinda dislike the character.
I'm just looking forward to seeing how they react when he dies this season.
I was extremely happy that Telltale gave us the option to say 'I don't like Kenny', so hopefully he won't have a silly hero's death and will just snap.
I like Kenny's character but he can be hot headed at times which caused Walter to die.
I do agree that some of his uber fans could be annoying at times with the overused "Kenny confirmed for season 2" gif which got spammed like crazy before the release of A House Divided.
Absolutely. The speculation drove them rampant.
I'm just looking forward to seeing how they react when he dies this season.
I was extr… moreemely happy that Telltale gave us the option to say 'I don't like Kenny', so hopefully he won't have a silly hero's death and will just snap.
Duck, Ben, Becca, Sarah were all characters I found annoying at times but nonetheless, they were all dimensional characters (in their own respects and some more than others).
Yeah, Molly just wasn't in the game long enough for me to really care about or dislike her. Maybe if she had stuck around to help Lee find Clementine, then we could have seen how she deals with circumstances truly out of her control, more than just shoving her climbing axe into undead eye sockets (cool as that was).
She just didn't make a big impression on me, personally.
While I have seen worse examples of the trope, I wasn't a huge fan of Molly either.
I didn't really see it as a ploy for feminist attent… moreion (as the cast was diverse enough to not need to make a statement on strong female roles), but I did think it could be manipulative in trying to make her out to be the "cool" character of the group.
Becca. She's a stupid kid, and I can't stand her. It's not even entirely her attitude, she just does stupid things. Maybe if it had been Stephanie, or someone else other than Shel, the PC, who was saddled with her I wouldn't care as much.
Becca. She's a stupid kid, and I can't stand her. It's not even entirely her attitude, she just does stupid things. Maybe if it had been Stephanie, or someone else other than Shel, the PC, who was saddled with her I wouldn't care as much.
She also sneaks out of the Pitstop through the loose boards in back without telling anyone. Not only can she die out there with nobody knowing, but if any of the people from Roberto's (the first intruder) group see her, they might follow her back, find the entrance, sneak in and kill everyone.
Actually, in many shows and stories, teenagers below the age of 21 still get called a "kid." Even Lee called Ben a kid in the game if you choose the more sympathetic dialogue options.
"It's easy to forget that Ben's just a kid."
Which is why I added that disclaimer at the end "in my book." I don't see someone who is allowed to do everything another adult can do as anything less than equal the other adult (strictly by the basis of age - representation, wealth, rank, and title, etc can all change that). Also referring to someone as kid is often a derogatory remark to young adults, not just actual kids (though Lee's word usage suggest he honestly holds Ben to the same standards as a chikd, something I refuse to do simply because he can't adapt and function. That's his problem and he brings it in loads to the groups doorstep (kind of literally with the bandits)).
The Ben outburst was beautiful! It showed real charisma (good terminology? ) and growth. If he had build on that and adapted then perhaps he could have redeemed himself. Seeing as he didn't do that I can't forgive his overabundance of stupidity. His story is extremely depressing, but everyone has a sad story in twd. You man up and continue or get left behind. It's a harsh world and you need to be resilient to survive, instead Ben leached off the struggling group bringing nothing but more hardship and a sad personal story.
I hope I didn't send the message I hate Ben for his morals or being vicious or anything. Definitely not why I hate him. I hate him because he is incompetent (majority rule) and, as you said, a burden to the group.
Neither am I. I was just saying in some places 16 years is adulthood (usually, it tends, they are less.... civilized places (civilized is probably the wrong word to use, but you understand)).
It depends what you mean by worst. Carver, the St Johns, and the stranger are all worse in their own right. I'd say Ben is worst of the "good characters."
umm.. i am not from country where 14-15 is adult age, now i see why you hate him, i cant make you change your opinion, you have strong arguments, but do you agree that he isn't the worst character in the game?
I think that's why there's always such a character around to spice things up though. It really does provoke the audience, "Here's a guy you have every reason to hate." But I gotta tell you, there are actual people in real life that's just as pathetic as Ben because that's the way they are - cowardly, incompetent, and stupid - and they're not always the ones to be blamed (it could do with a number of factors like upbringing issues). So it does raise an interesting point here when we ask ourselves whether if we'd do to a real person whose as pathetic as Ben what we did to Ben himself (like dropping him off the bell tower on purpose, for example).
It's very easy to write a likable character, and it's very easy to write a vicious bastard, but to write a pathetic character who makes you feel a little bit sorry for him at the same time is quite the challenge.
Actually, in many shows and stories, teenagers below the age of 21 still get called a "kid." Even Lee called Ben a kid in the game if you ch… moreoose the more sympathetic dialogue options.
"It's easy to forget that Ben's just a kid."
Which is why I added that disclaimer at the end "in my book." I don't see someone who is allowed to do everything another adult can do as anything less than equal the other adult (strictly by the basis of age - representation, wealth, rank, and title, etc can all change that). Also referring to someone as kid is often a derogatory remark to young adults, not just actual kids (though Lee's word usage suggest he honestly holds Ben to the same standards as a chikd, something I refuse to do simply because he can't adapt and function. That's his problem and he brings it in loads to the groups doorstep (kind of literally with the bandits)).
The Ben outburst was beautiful! It showed real charisma (good term… [view original content]
It's very easy to write a likable character, and it's very easy to write a vicious bastard, but to write a pathetic character who makes you feel a little bit sorry for him at the same time is quite the challenge.
I'll return to that later in my post.
Characters like this are very important to the story. It's rough to have an obvious detriment to the group that you can't necessarily toss out or fix (though me being my pessimistic, survivalistic self I think I could do one of those options, with much sadness). So yes, the characters like this are important, but that doesn't mean I don't hate them. As I said way up top I like what his character brought to the story, just not his character.
Back to the latter part of your post. First I'd like to say that was excellently written and insightful. I'd also like to say Ben and Nick do fantastic jobs of this, and I enjoy Nick's character much more and think he does a better job with the "could you oust him," conundrum. He is the perfect combination of depressing (story and personality), inability, and moral/good intentions.
I think that's why there's always such a character around to spice things up though. It really does provoke the audience, "Here's a guy you … morehave every reason to hate." But I gotta tell you, there are actual people in real life that's just as pathetic as Ben because that's the way they are - cowardly, incompetent, and stupid - and they're not always the ones to be blamed (it could do with a number of factors like upbringing issues). So it does raise an interesting point here when we ask ourselves whether if we'd do to a real person whose as pathetic as Ben what we did to Ben himself (like dropping him off the bell tower on purpose, for example).
It's very easy to write a likable character, and it's very easy to write a vicious bastard, but to write a pathetic character who makes you feel a little bit sorry for him at the same time is quite the challenge.
She also sneaks out of the Pitstop through the loose boards in back without telling anyone. Not only can she die out there with nobody knowi… moreng, but if any of the people from Roberto's (the first intruder) group see her, they might follow her back, find the entrance, sneak in and kill everyone.
If you go and talk to her after the train station incident, if I remember correctly, she says you made the right decision in taking her with you and that she needs to learn to do the things needed for survival (in so many words). So in truth she respected your choice and realized you knew what you were doing. A rather impactful, often not seen, scene.
I didn't like Christa only in the beginning, when we got to that jail next to the railroad where she says "I hope you know what you're doing". But after that, she was OK with me.
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Who doesn't? I think at this point everyone on the forum and their mothers and Gavin Hammon knows about her.
I know, right? He was so sexy.
Okay.
Because she's an asshole.
No she isn't, she's a teenager around adults who wants to prove that she's stronger than she actually is.
This kind of mindless Becca hate really pisses me off, because while she is acting like an asshole, she isn't actually an asshole.
Look at her face if you kill the intruder. Listen to her refuse to shoot Stephanie after offering.
It's all there in the game, but everyone just thinks she's a two dimensional character.
She got some good character development in the way she refused to go with the group though.
I think you're oversimplifying.
Well he does have a nice shaped head.
...what's wrong with Shel?
The cringey way his fans act on this forum makes him way more annoying than his character actually is.
Since when was it confirmed Christa was dead?
Her circumstances looked much better than Kenny's in episode 5, so I hardly think we can rule out her being alive.
that's true
Dat body tho!
Since he came back they havn't been as bad, it was mostly when he was presumed dead, that darn Gif they kept posting!
Am i weird to say not ben???
Ben and his fucking uselessness. Even though my Lee was a good guy, I just couldn't be nice to Ben. I still saved him from the tower though.
Also, even though Kenny in the game is not really annoying, some of his fans annoy me to no end, which has led me to kinda dislike the character.
Your avatar is sexy as hell.
Absolutely. The speculation drove them rampant.
I'm just looking forward to seeing how they react when he dies this season.
I was extremely happy that Telltale gave us the option to say 'I don't like Kenny', so hopefully he won't have a silly hero's death and will just snap.
Good point, that girl disgusts me... assuming she's female.
Dude you don't need to comment on every non-Luke relating post about how much you like him
We get it okay
I like Kenny's character but he can be hot headed at times which caused Walter to die.
I do agree that some of his uber fans could be annoying at times with the overused "Kenny confirmed for season 2" gif which got spammed like crazy before the release of A House Divided.
Let the people talk
Duck, Ben, Becca, Sarah were all characters I found annoying at times but nonetheless, they were all dimensional characters (in their own respects and some more than others).
I'm a man so I feel uncomfortable thinking about that, I just love him for his character. lol
Yeah, Molly just wasn't in the game long enough for me to really care about or dislike her. Maybe if she had stuck around to help Lee find Clementine, then we could have seen how she deals with circumstances truly out of her control, more than just shoving her climbing axe into undead eye sockets (cool as that was).
She just didn't make a big impression on me, personally.
Becca. She's a stupid kid, and I can't stand her. It's not even entirely her attitude, she just does stupid things. Maybe if it had been Stephanie, or someone else other than Shel, the PC, who was saddled with her I wouldn't care as much.
Only thing i can remember of her is that lame jumpscare she pulled off.
I also want to poke Bonnie's eyes out and then force her to eat em with some beans and peaches. What a biatchh. She's ugly too
She also sneaks out of the Pitstop through the loose boards in back without telling anyone. Not only can she die out there with nobody knowing, but if any of the people from Roberto's (the first intruder) group see her, they might follow her back, find the entrance, sneak in and kill everyone.
Which is why I added that disclaimer at the end "in my book." I don't see someone who is allowed to do everything another adult can do as anything less than equal the other adult (strictly by the basis of age - representation, wealth, rank, and title, etc can all change that). Also referring to someone as kid is often a derogatory remark to young adults, not just actual kids (though Lee's word usage suggest he honestly holds Ben to the same standards as a chikd, something I refuse to do simply because he can't adapt and function. That's his problem and he brings it in loads to the groups doorstep (kind of literally with the bandits)).
The Ben outburst was beautiful! It showed real charisma (good terminology? ) and growth. If he had build on that and adapted then perhaps he could have redeemed himself. Seeing as he didn't do that I can't forgive his overabundance of stupidity. His story is extremely depressing, but everyone has a sad story in twd. You man up and continue or get left behind. It's a harsh world and you need to be resilient to survive, instead Ben leached off the struggling group bringing nothing but more hardship and a sad personal story.
I hope I didn't send the message I hate Ben for his morals or being vicious or anything. Definitely not why I hate him. I hate him because he is incompetent (majority rule) and, as you said, a burden to the group.
She's a rebel with a Heart of Gold(TM)! She's mad because her >INSERT SIGNIFICANT PERSON< died!
Yeah that's some Dickens right there.
Neither am I. I was just saying in some places 16 years is adulthood (usually, it tends, they are less.... civilized places (civilized is probably the wrong word to use, but you understand)).
It depends what you mean by worst. Carver, the St Johns, and the stranger are all worse in their own right. I'd say Ben is worst of the "good characters."
But where do I get that pic of Luke? He lukes so good.
I think that's why there's always such a character around to spice things up though. It really does provoke the audience, "Here's a guy you have every reason to hate." But I gotta tell you, there are actual people in real life that's just as pathetic as Ben because that's the way they are - cowardly, incompetent, and stupid - and they're not always the ones to be blamed (it could do with a number of factors like upbringing issues). So it does raise an interesting point here when we ask ourselves whether if we'd do to a real person whose as pathetic as Ben what we did to Ben himself (like dropping him off the bell tower on purpose, for example).
It's very easy to write a likable character, and it's very easy to write a vicious bastard, but to write a pathetic character who makes you feel a little bit sorry for him at the same time is quite the challenge.
How.... um...... pleasant
Speaking of Bonnie...She said in episode 2 that she has a child.Do you think that is true? I am sorry if the question is stupid.
She probably got preggers with Leland. WHORE!
Very, very good points. I love the end.
I'll return to that later in my post.
Characters like this are very important to the story. It's rough to have an obvious detriment to the group that you can't necessarily toss out or fix (though me being my pessimistic, survivalistic self I think I could do one of those options, with much sadness). So yes, the characters like this are important, but that doesn't mean I don't hate them. As I said way up top I like what his character brought to the story, just not his character.
Back to the latter part of your post. First I'd like to say that was excellently written and insightful. I'd also like to say Ben and Nick do fantastic jobs of this, and I enjoy Nick's character much more and think he does a better job with the "could you oust him," conundrum. He is the perfect combination of depressing (story and personality), inability, and moral/good intentions.
I am really concerned for Cluke4Life's mental condition.
Oh yeeeah, she was the dumb dumb.
If you go and talk to her after the train station incident, if I remember correctly, she says you made the right decision in taking her with you and that she needs to learn to do the things needed for survival (in so many words). So in truth she respected your choice and realized you knew what you were doing. A rather impactful, often not seen, scene.