YOU AGAIN first your a lilly supporter NOW THIS - i simply cannot accept this you must be banished, you vile Lilly loving, Bonnie bearing creature of hell.!!! BE GONE DEMON!
YOU AGAIN first your a lilly supporter NOW THIS - i simply cannot accept this you must be banished, you vile Lilly loving, Bonnie bearing creature of hell.!!! BE GONE DEMON!
Maybe she can become friends with Clem but...personally I don't like Bonnie (funny, Bonnie is my nickname haha) one bit. I just don't get a good vibe out of her.
I didn't like Bonnie's actions in episode 2 but seeing people calling her a bitch and hating on her so much, while it is their opinion, it's kind of going overboard. But yeah, I can't see Bonnie being a mentor/parental figure like Lee was.
So a knife isn't a weapon? That's enough for me to not want her alone for quite a while. 5 minutes is way too short a run for it to be considered a lone fuck up. She needs a mentor desperately.
Well, she was most likely caught off guard, or didn't have any weapons with her (which is a fuck-up, I agree), but this doesn't actually mea… moren she is a bad survivor overall.
One situation/action shouldn't cast a character in a bad light. If you think otherwise, then hell, you're very strict.
Besides, I was agreeing to a post above me. I wasn't exactly proposing Christa to return.. But, then again, I don't have to explain myself.
So a knife isn't a weapon? That's enough for me to not want her alone for quite a while. 5 minutes is way too short a run for it to be considered a lone fuck up. She needs a mentor desperately.
Since when have we been talking about Winston's group? I was talking about the five minutes that she was on her own where she got bit by a dog and nearly run down by walkers. Nature wrecked her. If she can't handle nature, I don't want her trying to handle anything else.
I agree with someone being a parental figure for her. She needs it. She's growing up, and soon, she'll need to know what's up, get the birds and the bees and all that. She also still needs to develop as a person. Because, I don't know about you, but I don't know anybody who's the same as they were when they were 11, and she needs to make positive changes to her personality, not negative ones.
Not only I do not agree with the idea of Bonnie taking Lee's role, but with the idea of ANYONE taking his place. Lee's 'guardian plot' has already been played. It was great, well played, but it's over. I hope they try something different
Since when have we been talking about Winston's group? I was talking about the five minutes that she was on her own where she got bit by a d… moreog and nearly run down by walkers. Nature wrecked her. If she can't handle nature, I don't want her trying to handle anything else.
Oh, yeah, Christa is great. I fucking love Christa. She's my second favorite living survivor. I was responding to this:
"Clem already has numerous surviving skills, so any mentor's help is not needed."
No, she did. But you gotta remember, this is a little girl. She didn't have the base knowledge that Christa does. I think that's the main reason Clem isn't fit for survival.
Why, of course, I should totally remember what I wrote 5 days ago. My most sincere apologies. How could I be so stupid?
As for your argum… moreent, yes, you do bring up some legit points. Clem still has something to learn, and Christa didn't seem to do her work properly.
Children tend to be that way, unfortunately. Regardless, I still want to see her move through the season, whether she is fit to survive in that world or not.
No, she did. But you gotta remember, this is a little girl. She didn't have the base knowledge that Christa does. I think that's the main reason Clem isn't fit for survival.
Children tend to be that way, unfortunately. Regardless, I still want to see her move through the season, whether she is fit to survive in that world or not.
Oh, I didn't want her to be the protagonist. But I don't wan them to change mid season, fuck that. Actually, I thought Omid was going to be the protagonist. He seemed perfect for it.
He didn't seem that good for the role, IMO. He would end up being a second Lee, maybe with a different personality, with Christa and their baby + Clementine to take care of. Granted that would still get us an interesting story, I don't think it would've worked out smoothly.
"It's just my opinion, though, there's no need to spread that around".
Oh, I didn't want her to be the protagonist. But I don't wan them to change mid season, fuck that. Actually, I thought Omid was going to be the protagonist. He seemed perfect for it.
I dunno, man. He still didn't have a personality when it came to big choices, which would've left that up to the player. I could've seen him not just being Lee 2.0
He didn't seem that good for the role, IMO. He would end up being a second Lee, maybe with a different personality, with Christa and their b… moreaby + Clementine to take care of. Granted that would still get us an interesting story, I don't think it would've worked out smoothly.
"It's just my opinion, though, there's no need to spread that around".
I dunno, man. He still didn't have a personality when it came to big choices, which would've left that up to the player. I could've seen him not just being Lee 2.0
Yeah. I find it funny how people forget about the fact that these characters spent time with each other off-screen like Lily giving Clem her hair things. It's also pretty hilarious to think about how Christa's actually spent about 4x as much time with her as Lee actually did. Also found it odd how we had a dialogue option about how she misses Lee, but not her parents (to my memory).
Yeah. I find it funny how people forget about the fact that these characters spent time with each other off-screen like Lily giving Clem he… morer hair things. It's also pretty hilarious to think about how Christa's actually spent about 4x as much time with her as Lee actually did. Also found it odd how we had a dialogue option about how she misses Lee, but not her parents (to my memory).
I think that after all that happens Clem doesn't need any mentor/tutor/guardian... She can handle many situations by herself and I hope that… more she can reach a safe community where she can live safely for a long time!
The only one Lee to Clem will be Lee for ever
Just doing drugs is not the only possible part of a drug user. Especially if it was in the past. Her doing the heel face turn would be a quality of a positive role model. Her being honest to Leland is a positive role model.
Sort of...she doesn't need a guardian per se, but not having a good mentor figure can really fuck up a kid or teenager. For Clementine, who… more's basically a few steps away from becoming an emotionally-dead child soldier, I imagine it's especially important.
But to the point, yeah Bonnie ain't much of a 'poster child'. Don't get me wrong, I think she'll realize how much of a brute Carver is and do a Heel-Face Turn. I just don't think she's much of a positive role model.
I like to point out to Christa haters that she kept Clem alive four times as long as Lee did, and clearly taught her some very imporrtant apocalypse skills such as suturing
Yeah. I find it funny how people forget about the fact that these characters spent time with each other off-screen like Lily giving Clem he… morer hair things. It's also pretty hilarious to think about how Christa's actually spent about 4x as much time with her as Lee actually did. Also found it odd how we had a dialogue option about how she misses Lee, but not her parents (to my memory).
If she has a good group she would't be alone for 5 minutes, and a good group would come with friends who would help her through her teenage years. Clementine doesn't need one person in the group to take Clementine guardianship duty.
If she has a good group she would't be alone for 5 minutes, and a good group would come with friends who would help her through her teenage years. Clementine doesn't need one person in the group to take Clementine guardianship duty.
I could get behind a well written narrative where Clem can help Bonnie see the error of her ways and finally stand up for the right. Especially since the DLC and Ep2 have portrayed Bonnie as a character easily swayed by the more charismatic or confident people around her. The time between 400 Days and Ep2 is at least a year. No telling what sort of slippery slope Bonnie could have slid down (like that muddy hill in the DLC ).
It would be interesting to get some more of her backstory, but I can't see her as a mentor/guardian. As a foil, maybe.
I think Bonnie's going to fuck up somehow, and get hated by both groups, and killed. Hell, maybe Bonnie helps Clem commit larceny then gets killed for it. Maybe Carver might ask why/how (?) Got stolen, and you can rat her out. Resulting in Bonnie dying, if not, then another character dies. Then Carver finds out it was you, and you get a beatin'? Just a little thought.
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YOU AGAIN first your a lilly supporter NOW THIS - i simply cannot accept this you must be banished, you vile Lilly loving, Bonnie bearing creature of hell.!!! BE GONE DEMON!
Maybe she can become friends with Clem but...personally I don't like Bonnie (funny, Bonnie is my nickname haha) one bit. I just don't get a good vibe out of her.
Bonnie is a bitch that for sure
I didn't like Bonnie's actions in episode 2 but seeing people calling her a bitch and hating on her so much, while it is their opinion, it's kind of going overboard. But yeah, I can't see Bonnie being a mentor/parental figure like Lee was.
Don't even compare this bitch with our beloved Lee
I think you made my point for me
Hell no. I counted one time Kenny ever said anything directly to Clem.
"GET ON THE TRAIN, CLEMENTINE."
He must know her like the back of his hand.
So a knife isn't a weapon? That's enough for me to not want her alone for quite a while. 5 minutes is way too short a run for it to be considered a lone fuck up. She needs a mentor desperately.
A knife is SO useful against a group of people with firearms.
Since when have we been talking about Winston's group? I was talking about the five minutes that she was on her own where she got bit by a dog and nearly run down by walkers. Nature wrecked her. If she can't handle nature, I don't want her trying to handle anything else.
I agree with someone being a parental figure for her. She needs it. She's growing up, and soon, she'll need to know what's up, get the birds and the bees and all that. She also still needs to develop as a person. Because, I don't know about you, but I don't know anybody who's the same as they were when they were 11, and she needs to make positive changes to her personality, not negative ones.
Sorry, my mistake. I was thinking "What knife did Christa have?", not realizing who you're talking about. My apologies.
Oh, yeah, Christa is great. I fucking love Christa. She's my second favorite living survivor. I was responding to this:
"Clem already has numerous surviving skills, so any mentor's help is not needed."
Why, of course, I should totally remember what I wrote 5 days ago. My most sincere apologies. How could I be so stupid?
As for your argument, yes, you do bring up some legit points. Clem still has something to learn, and Christa didn't seem to do her work properly.
No, she did. But you gotta remember, this is a little girl. She didn't have the base knowledge that Christa does. I think that's the main reason Clem isn't fit for survival.
Children tend to be that way, unfortunately. Regardless, I still want to see her move through the season, whether she is fit to survive in that world or not.
Who wouldn't? I don't think anybody is saying, "Yeah, fuck Clem. I hope she dies."
There were people who didn't want Clem to be a protagonist in a first place. Maybe they weren't taking it to such extreme, but still.
Oh, I didn't want her to be the protagonist. But I don't wan them to change mid season, fuck that. Actually, I thought Omid was going to be the protagonist. He seemed perfect for it.
He didn't seem that good for the role, IMO. He would end up being a second Lee, maybe with a different personality, with Christa and their baby + Clementine to take care of. Granted that would still get us an interesting story, I don't think it would've worked out smoothly.
"It's just my opinion, though, there's no need to spread that around".
I dunno, man. He still didn't have a personality when it came to big choices, which would've left that up to the player. I could've seen him not just being Lee 2.0
That is something I can agree with. Too bad they got rid of him in a manner they did. A waste of character, really.
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......umm, Christa was alone with Clem for over 16 months.
Kenny has been with clem for a total of about 4, and alone only once.
I still have a very faint sliver of hope. I want Omid back. :c
Yeah. I find it funny how people forget about the fact that these characters spent time with each other off-screen like Lily giving Clem her hair things. It's also pretty hilarious to think about how Christa's actually spent about 4x as much time with her as Lee actually did. Also found it odd how we had a dialogue option about how she misses Lee, but not her parents (to my memory).
Yeah, that was pretty weird.
She can't handle being alone for five minutes. She needs a Lee.
She needs a guardian. If she couldn't handle being alone for five minutes, she needs a guardian. Plus somebody to guide her through the teenage years.
Just doing drugs is not the only possible part of a drug user. Especially if it was in the past. Her doing the heel face turn would be a quality of a positive role model. Her being honest to Leland is a positive role model.
Exactly!
I like to point out to Christa haters that she kept Clem alive four times as long as Lee did, and clearly taught her some very imporrtant apocalypse skills such as suturing
I could forgive her. But her being a lee or a mentor, never! She can't take care of herself, imagine a child!
Maybe she'll redeem herself...
have we all forgotten about Shell? She would be a more likely canidate for a guardian.
If she has a good group she would't be alone for 5 minutes, and a good group would come with friends who would help her through her teenage years. Clementine doesn't need one person in the group to take Clementine guardianship duty.
Actually, I don't know about your experience, but in mine, most people just want one person to guide them through that time.
I could get behind a well written narrative where Clem can help Bonnie see the error of her ways and finally stand up for the right. Especially since the DLC and Ep2 have portrayed Bonnie as a character easily swayed by the more charismatic or confident people around her. The time between 400 Days and Ep2 is at least a year. No telling what sort of slippery slope Bonnie could have slid down (like that muddy hill in the DLC
).
It would be interesting to get some more of her backstory, but I can't see her as a mentor/guardian. As a foil, maybe.
I have a feeling Clem isn't going to get another guardian. Specially that we're playing as her, not as another guardian.
I think Bonnie's going to fuck up somehow, and get hated by both groups, and killed. Hell, maybe Bonnie helps Clem commit larceny then gets killed for it. Maybe Carver might ask why/how (?) Got stolen, and you can rat her out. Resulting in Bonnie dying, if not, then another character dies. Then Carver finds out it was you, and you get a beatin'? Just a little thought.