I'm not sure if this is a stupid answer or not, but I have a feeling that it could possibly be Hans?
He's not really had much of an impact on the story but he works in the Pudding N' Pie and can clearly see everything that is going on right in front of him. Plus in the comics doesn't he hunt witches or people who use spells and stuff? It would make sense to kill off the prostitutes since they are using spells xD
I also don't believe it's either the Crooked Man or Bloody Mary because of one simple reason - Georgie works for them and calls them to say that they have a problem, but he does this AFTER the arrival of Bigby and Snow - if Georige/Crooked Man/Mary is the killer, then why on Earth would they allow Crane to go anywhere near the girls to try and interrogate them with the ring that is supposedly able to break the 'sealed lips' spell? Girls would tell him that one of them is the killer. That would be irresponsible, given how hard the killer is trying to cover his tracks. Georgie allowed Crane to talk to girls, because he (or CM & BM) doesn't know who the killer is and doesn't care about it. All they care about is money - that's why Georgie called them after Bigby showed up in the club - because, after arresting Crane, they will never get their money back from him.
The dwarves are dead, Snow herself killed them after months of rape and forced labor and the red haired guy appears in the comics, the badger is a important character in the comics but the headless horseman makes some kind of sense.
I am with you. I think that the Crooked Man is being targeted by the real killer.
They are killing off his business both the actual girl… mores, but also the Pudding and Pie and Open Arms. The Crooked Man has BM, and the Tweedles on his payroll - so we are looking for someone opposing him.
Could be Bluebeard I suppose, but that feels pretty obvious too, since his back story has in decapitating his wives without remorse.
But what about the dwarves? All we know of them is that they are supposed to be connected with Snow White somehow, and yet all we get is "The less said about them the better." from Ep 1. In the same picture, there is also Badger in the picture; but he doesn't really seem to fit like the picture of the sinister dwarves.
The Headless horseman is a possibility, but it seems a stretch - he would only be after Crane - and there is no good tie-in to Faith.
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To be honest, I'm starting to have thoughts about Snow. Mainly because I don't think she has a strong alibi and is beginning to show a "dark… moreer" side in EP 3 (EP 1 Snow would never burn down that tree, especially if that was the only way a fable could get by in life) I mean think about it, where was she on the night she supposedly died? With Toad? You're telling me she went to investigate a problem on her own without any help or supervision? Yeah right.
I agree that TCM ain't framing Crane. It would be completely irrational to send someone you want dead to Paris, France. Crane ends up being in France after all that happens here.
Despite all the comments I wrote in this section I have only just noticed that the new fable has been introduced to the world in the title of our discussion - The Cooked Man! I'm begining to think that he might be the killer
Yeah, kind of annoying when you just immediately rule out people since they're in the comics. That's quite a disadvantage to this being a prequel. Though who knows, they might come up with something crazy and beauty is somehow the killer, but completely fine in the comics. >.<
Unless they just decide to give the killer away, then it becomes a race to find the killer, rather than a detective-ish storyline. This would be a very bad idea though, maybe in the final episode...?
Bloody Mary and the crooked man definetley know who the killer is. In ep4 , it looks like Bigby spontaneously changes into wolf form, and has to seek Mary to reverse it. My guess is Bigby will confront bm at the end of ep4 and then find out who the killer is, the genie in the lamp.
I'm not sure if this is a stupid answer or not, but I have a feeling that it could possibly be Hans?
He's not really had much of an impac… moret on the story but he works in the Pudding N' Pie and can clearly see everything that is going on right in front of him. Plus in the comics doesn't he hunt witches or people who use spells and stuff? It would make sense to kill off the prostitutes since they are using spells xD
I think this is speculating too far. We're 3 episodes in! It's not that unusual for Telltale to indicate who is responsible for the events in episode 2 and 1. All evidence points too BM and TCM. Anyone saying it's anyone else has little justification.
Why would he kill someone he loves and cares about than? Also how did Woody teleport from the Trip Trap to the Open Arms to the Woodlands to the river and back to the Trip Trap in less than 2 minutes?
Cause he's the motherfucking Woodsman, that's how! lol It was Pinocchio....can't trust that wooden bastard! XD jk We will never know until the 5th. I can MAYBE seeing the 4th ep giving clues....but, who knows.
Why would he kill someone he loves and cares about than? Also how did Woody teleport from the Trip Trap to the Open Arms to the Woodlands to the river and back to the Trip Trap in less than 2 minutes?
Woody would kill Crane, not Lily. Woody cannot teleport like Bloody Mary, meaning he would have to run from the middle of Manhattan to one side, than the other side, before returning. 2-5 minutes on foot is impossible for Woody. Pinocchio is trying to cool down from the heatwave to not burn to death. No one you mentioned has a motive. Crooked Man has a motive, Vivian has at least one motive, Bloody Mary doesn't need a motive.
Cause he's the motherfucking Woodsman, that's how! lol It was Pinocchio....can't trust that wooden bastard! XD jk We will never know until the 5th. I can MAYBE seeing the 4th ep giving clues....but, who knows.
I also don't believe it's either the Crooked Man or Bloody Mary because of one simple reason - Georgie works for them and calls them to say … morethat they have a problem, but he does this AFTER the arrival of Bigby and Snow - if Georige/Crooked Man/Mary is the killer, then why on Earth would they allow Crane to go anywhere near the girls to try and interrogate them with the ring that is supposedly able to break the 'sealed lips' spell? Girls would tell him that one of them is the killer. That would be irresponsible, given how hard the killer is trying to cover his tracks. Georgie allowed Crane to talk to girls, because he (or CM & BM) doesn't know who the killer is and doesn't care about it. All they care about is money - that's why Georgie called them after Bigby showed up in the club - because, after arresting Crane, they will never get their money back from him.
I don't think it's all them but they're definitely part of it. I just think it would be a little too obvious if we found out it was them. Some people were thinking it was Vivian and at first I was like mehh but I'm warming up to idea that it might be her now (but I'd like it if it were someone completely different.
i actually think the woodsman killed lilly thinking it was snow, as she was glamoured, and who actually said that lilly was killed the same time bigby found the head ? she was missing for weeks as grendel says.. woody COULD eventually be the killer, and that would be totally possible.
as for the motive, i think he hates bigby's way, and wants to break him down.. that would make a nice plot twist, the man who seems to be innocent, being the killer, in sheep's clothing..
Woody would kill Crane, not Lily. Woody cannot teleport like Bloody Mary, meaning he would have to run from the middle of Manhattan to one s… moreide, than the other side, before returning. 2-5 minutes on foot is impossible for Woody. Pinocchio is trying to cool down from the heatwave to not burn to death. No one you mentioned has a motive. Crooked Man has a motive, Vivian has at least one motive, Bloody Mary doesn't need a motive.
The head was left at the Woodlands and the body was dumped when Woody was at the bar. Woody only fights Bigby when he is drunk, because it clouds his judgment, when he would always do the right thing.
i actually think the woodsman killed lilly thinking it was snow, as she was glamoured, and who actually said that lilly was killed the same … moretime bigby found the head ? she was missing for weeks as grendel says.. woody COULD eventually be the killer, and that would be totally possible.
as for the motive, i think he hates bigby's way, and wants to break him down.. that would make a nice plot twist, the man who seems to be innocent, being the killer, in sheep's clothing..
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I'm not sure if this is a stupid answer or not, but I have a feeling that it could possibly be Hans?
He's not really had much of an impact on the story but he works in the Pudding N' Pie and can clearly see everything that is going on right in front of him. Plus in the comics doesn't he hunt witches or people who use spells and stuff? It would make sense to kill off the prostitutes since they are using spells xD
may be the Crooked man isn't really the crooked man, but rather a double identity of some known character?
I also don't believe it's either the Crooked Man or Bloody Mary because of one simple reason - Georgie works for them and calls them to say that they have a problem, but he does this AFTER the arrival of Bigby and Snow - if Georige/Crooked Man/Mary is the killer, then why on Earth would they allow Crane to go anywhere near the girls to try and interrogate them with the ring that is supposedly able to break the 'sealed lips' spell? Girls would tell him that one of them is the killer. That would be irresponsible, given how hard the killer is trying to cover his tracks. Georgie allowed Crane to talk to girls, because he (or CM & BM) doesn't know who the killer is and doesn't care about it. All they care about is money - that's why Georgie called them after Bigby showed up in the club - because, after arresting Crane, they will never get their money back from him.
The dwarves are dead, Snow herself killed them after months of rape and forced labor and the red haired guy appears in the comics, the badger is a important character in the comics but the headless horseman makes some kind of sense.
Nobody here read the fucking comics. Snow is a important character in the there and is not a villain.
I doubt TCM had anything to do with that... I always just assumed either Crane fled to Paris or was exiled there by the Fabletown administration.
He wouldn't be exiled, since Bigby kills him. He had to have fled, and TCM would help him with that.
What if it's the security guard from the woodland's apartment the whole time?
No, it's not him. Spends his time sleeping all day, every day, I'm serious. :P
Despite all the comments I wrote in this section I have only just noticed that the new fable has been introduced to the world in the title of our discussion - The Cooked Man! I'm begining to think that he might be the killer
Impossible, he sleeps all day and all night. Only wakes up to answer serious questions from Snow and Bigby.
The title of the thread is hilarious. We haven't met the Cooked Man yet, the fact is we never will.
I hear he's making his award-winning pork stew!
Yeah, kind of annoying when you just immediately rule out people since they're in the comics. That's quite a disadvantage to this being a prequel. Though who knows, they might come up with something crazy and beauty is somehow the killer, but completely fine in the comics. >.<
Unless they just decide to give the killer away, then it becomes a race to find the killer, rather than a detective-ish storyline. This would be a very bad idea though, maybe in the final episode...?
i know, i was just joking,lol he's the very least person to be suspected
could it be prince charming?
Bloody Mary and the crooked man definetley know who the killer is. In ep4 , it looks like Bigby spontaneously changes into wolf form, and has to seek Mary to reverse it. My guess is Bigby will confront bm at the end of ep4 and then find out who the killer is, the genie in the lamp.
My prime suspects are Vivian and Cryer
or assumed he was there for other purposes
as for the motive, i think he hates bigby's way, and wants to break him down.. that would make a nice plot twist, the man who seems to be innocent, being the killer, in sheep's clothing..