Are you seriously trying to insult me for being homophobic now? I have many good friends in real life that are gay. I couldn't care less about this silly attempt of you to make Kenny fans look like idiot's, but this is getting way to far now. Please stop it immediately!
Leave me alone. I'm not trolling any more.
In fact, it wasn't really trolling. It was more an attempt to make a point.
So tell me, were you one of the dicks who liked the homophobia above? Huh?
I don't think Kenny fans are idiots: most of them, including you, are really cool, and were not the people I was aiming at.
The ones I was imitating are the ones who spam and call people idiots for not agreeing with them. They are small in number, but you can't say you fully agree with what they do can you?
Are you seriously trying to insult me for being homophobic now? I have many good friends in real life that are gay. I couldn't care less abo… moreut this silly attempt of you to make Kenny fans look like idiot's, but this is getting way to far now. Please stop it immediately!
Ah okay. I love Kenny fans lol, that's why you and me are bros .
Hopefully I haven't offended, just wanted to point out Kenny is in fact awesome, Flog just overdid it .
BTW who is being a homophobe?
I guess he is talking about " Headless Horseman " comment: " You are a sad little troll, go get a life. You're criticizing Kenny fans and we… more could do the same about gay people... "
Which definitely wasn't the best way to react to this silly thread, but this comment wasn't meant to be homophobia. He is just overreacting.
it wasn't homophobia, he was showing that if you don't like to be mocked because of your preference/opinion, whatever it is you shouldn't mock others for theirs. also don't expect to make a whole thread mocking others and then tell people to leave you alone and think they actually will.
Leave me alone. I'm not trolling any more.
In fact, it wasn't really trolling. It was more an attempt to make a point.
So tell me, were you one of the dicks who liked the homophobia above? Huh?
I've stopped, it's fine.
And it's not kenny fans I'm bitter about, the vast majority of them are awesome. It's just the ones who call me … morean idiot for not having the same opinion. Them and the spammers.
I apologise, I just got worked up.
Now I'm just feeling pretty fucking depressed about the above homophobia.
That's not homophobic at all. I used a valid example that is uncomfortable for you and I get that. I could have said somethin nicer but that doesn't make my comment homophobic or racist. We all overreacted, I'm sure you're not a troll and I'm certainly not against gay people. So, if you understood it a different way it's not what it was meant to be.
It was homophobia because you said that me making fun of a tiny group of Kenny fans who CHOOSE to spam is comaparable to making fun of gay p… moreeople who do not CHOOSE to be gay.
I have nothing against nice Kenny fans, just the minority of them who choose to spam and choose to call me an idiot.
If you replace the word 'gay' with 'black' in your post, you'll see what I mean.
Racism and homophobia are bad for exactly the same reason: discriminating against someone because of something they can't control.
It was homophobia because you said that me making fun of a tiny group of Kenny fans who CHOOSE to spam is comaparable to making fun of gay p… moreeople who do not CHOOSE to be gay.
I have nothing against nice Kenny fans, just the minority of them who choose to spam and choose to call me an idiot.
If you replace the word 'gay' with 'black' in your post, you'll see what I mean.
Racism and homophobia are bad for exactly the same reason: discriminating against someone because of something they can't control.
It was a bizarre comment to make and regardless of your intent it really did come off as homophobic, so instead of telling Flog to get over himself, maybe you should apologize, because clearly it hit close to home, and even if you don't think it's a big deal, it is to him.
Flog, get over yourself.
How was that homophobia ? Im not insulting you for being gay and as a matter of fact thats probably the only thi… moreng about you that doesn't bother me. Im just making a point that regardless of the situation you wouldn't like someone insulting you the way you're mocking Kenny fanboys.
That's not homophobic at all. I used a valid example that is uncomfortable for you and I get that. I could have said somethin nicer but that… more doesn't make my comment homophobic or racist. We all overreacted, I'm sure you're not a troll and I'm certainly not against gay people. So, if you understood it a different way it's not what it was meant to be.
it wasn't homophobia, he was showing that if you don't like to be mocked because of your preference/opinion, whatever it is you shouldn't mo… moreck others for theirs. also don't expect to make a whole thread mocking others and then tell people to leave you alone and think they actually will.
Oh I see... I'm sorry you have to endure ignorant posts like that. You're a cool guy and even though I don't agree with you making a thread like this just for the minority of Kenny fans, you're still a valued poster.
I don't see it as them being homophobic. I see it as them being ignorant immature assholes.
I understand you didn't intend it to be, but please just think:
"You are a sad little troll, go get a life. You're criticizing Kenny fans… more and we could do the same about black people..."
Can you see how that would be considered quite racist? Well, that's the same reason it is considered homophobic.
Oh I see... I'm sorry you have to endure ignorant posts like that. You're a cool guy and even though I don't agree with you making a thread … morelike this just for the minority of Kenny fans, you're still a valued poster.
I don't see it as them being homophobic. I see it as them being ignorant immature assholes.
Criticizing a handful of people on the internet who like a guy with a mustache is not the same as criticizing a group of historically oppressed people who still continue to face injustice to this day. Not to get political, here, but it's just not a fair comparison at all. His point would have been made just as easily by just saying, "We could do the same about Lilly fans" or something. That's a fair comparison. To say "We could do the say about gay people" comes off as a borderline threatening dig. Maybe Headless didn't MEAN it that way, but it's easy to see how one would view it as such.
it wasn't homophobia, he was showing that if you don't like to be mocked because of your preference/opinion, whatever it is you shouldn't mo… moreck others for theirs. also don't expect to make a whole thread mocking others and then tell people to leave you alone and think they actually will.
That's true, but that doesn't stop the fact that you used homophobia to strengthen your point when my sexuality was completely irrelevant and incomparable to the point I was trying to make anyway.
people would have flipped out at you if you said the above statement. Moire than anything, it shows how biased against gay people society is compared to against other forms of discrimination like racism or sexism.
I still see it as a valid "What if" non offensive comparison. Once again, my comment was meant to be anything but homophobic.
You could be straight as an arrow and we still wouldn't like each other. At least we're honest.
i'm not saying we can criticize people about that but if he doesn't like ti then he shouldn't do it to anyone no matter how big or small the scale is compared to that.
Criticizing a handful of people on the internet who like a guy with a mustache is not the same as criticizing a group of historically oppres… moresed people who still continue to face injustice to this day. Not to get political, here, but it's just not a fair comparison at all. His point would have been made just as easily by just saying, "We could do the same about Lilly fans" or something. That's a fair comparison. To say "We could do the say about gay people" comes off as a borderline threatening dig. Maybe Headless didn't MEAN it that way, but it's easy to see how one would view it as such.
i haven't seen a kenny spammer since before episode 2 released, the last time i have only saw around 5 kenny confirmed gifs since episode 2 released, so you mean to tell me that it was worth creating a thread for around 1% of the forum who probably won't listen anyway?
But I wasn't mocking them for their preference or opinion.
I was mocking the small number of kenny fans who spam the forums. And that, my… more friend, is very much a choice.
Not to suggest that opinions and sexuality are comparable anyway: our opinions can be changed by others, whereas our sexualities can not be.
I'm not defending Flog for making this thread. It was obnoxious, and I think he knows that now. My point is that Headless's response was also very obnoxious, but unlike Flog's comments, Headless's have some bad implications. He didn't mean them, but they're there nonetheless.
i'm not saying we can criticize people about that but if he doesn't like ti then he shouldn't do it to anyone no matter how big or small the scale is compared to that.
i haven't seen a kenny spammer since before episode 2 released, the last time i have only saw around 5 kenny confirmed gifs since episode 2 … morereleased, so you mean to tell me that it was worth creating a thread for around 1% of the forum who probably won't listen anyway?
You're understanding just half of it, what you want to.
You shouldn't make fun of Any group. It doesn't matter if it's small, big or if they like a guy with a mustache. It's not fair. The people who aren't being biased in this thread easily understood the point I was trying to make. Just because it's a small group on the internet they deserved to be mocked like this ? That's pretty hypocritical of you.
That's true, but that doesn't stop the fact that you used homophobia to strengthen your point when my sexuality was completely irrelevant an… mored incomparable to the point I was trying to make anyway.
people would have flipped out at you if you said the above statement. Moire than anything, it shows how biased against gay people society is compared to against other forms of discrimination like racism or sexism.
Well, I know that there's a lot of fucked up Kenny fans, and your parody makes sense. At first it was even kinda funny, but now it's really annoying. Stop.
Well, I know that there's a lot of fucked up Kenny fans, and your parody makes sense. At first it was even kinda funny, but now it's really annoying. Stop.
Spamming not just the gif, but talking about urban and boat and mustache in so many threads.
It's all very memey and bandwagony.
Not t… moreo mention the disturbing racism behind treating 'urban' so lightly, but that's not really the focus of the issue here.
first, so what if they talk about boats and mustaches and urbans? it really shouldn't be that much of a big deal like you're making it. also urban is not racist, it's clearly just a joke but as you said that's not the focus of this discussion.
Spamming not just the gif, but talking about urban and boat and mustache in so many threads.
It's all very memey and bandwagony.
Not t… moreo mention the disturbing racism behind treating 'urban' so lightly, but that's not really the focus of the issue here.
i'm not saying we can criticize people about that but if he doesn't like ti then he shouldn't do it to anyone no matter how big or small the scale is compared to that.
You're understanding just half of it, what you want to.
You shouldn't make fun of Any group. It doesn't matter if it's small, big or if t… morehey like a guy with a mustache. It's not fair. The people who aren't being biased in this thread easily understood the point I was trying to make. Just because it's a small group on the internet they deserved to be mocked like this ? That's pretty hypocritical of you.
It's better if we just drop it.
As I've said before, the size of the group is irrelevant. It's about whether people chose to be in the group or not.
I'm critisising a gr… moreoup of people who are in that group because they choose to be, namely the group of people who spam about Kenny.
Of course we're allowed to critisise people for their choices!
Our entire law system is based around judging people's choices, and rightly so.
On the other hand, we should NOT by any means critisise people who can't help it, such as gay people, black people, disabled people etc.
Like I said in another thread - Flog, I understand most of the Kenny fanbase are loudmouthed assholes who don't like most characters. Ok, I said it and I'll stand by it. I'm one of them. I don't like Luke, I've stated this before and you know my opinion on Luke fans but I don't go around being a stereotypical Luke fangirl do I? No. I just stand by my unpopular opinion and deal with it. You are making yourself look like an idiot and if you really dislike Kenny fans and think they act like this, don't stoop to their level.
So ok, we got that out the way. You have been calling people homophobic for a comment? Right, I've studied it's content and all he was doing was proving a point. I am bisexual, I have a boyfriend, I like men. Just putting that out there. All I am saying is, chill the fuck out. He said "You are a sad little troll, go get a life. You're criticizing Kenny fans and we could do the same about gay people..."
Ok? So from how I interpenetrate this he is saying "You are criticizing one group of people, why not another?"
So, lets stop trolling and go back to being a normal Christa fan? You are just making this situation a clusterfuck for no reason.
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Are you seriously trying to insult me for being homophobic now? I have many good friends in real life that are gay. I couldn't care less about this silly attempt of you to make Kenny fans look like idiot's, but this is getting way to far now. Please stop it immediately!
I don't think Kenny fans are idiots: most of them, including you, are really cool, and were not the people I was aiming at.
The ones I was imitating are the ones who spam and call people idiots for not agreeing with them. They are small in number, but you can't say you fully agree with what they do can you?
No one is, HedlessHorseman made a comment that was a little bit inappropriate. But this doesn't make him homophobic, Flog 61 is just overreacting.
Replace the word 'gay' in his post with 'black'. Then consider whether the resulting statement would be considered to be racist.
If the answer is yes, then with the word 'gay' in instead it is certainly homophobic.
it wasn't homophobia, he was showing that if you don't like to be mocked because of your preference/opinion, whatever it is you shouldn't mock others for theirs. also don't expect to make a whole thread mocking others and then tell people to leave you alone and think they actually will.
I'm sorry. That was... really bizarre and out of the blue and very uncalled for.
Listen, you're welcome to talk with me in a private discussion if you need to chat.
That's not homophobic at all. I used a valid example that is uncomfortable for you and I get that. I could have said somethin nicer but that doesn't make my comment homophobic or racist. We all overreacted, I'm sure you're not a troll and I'm certainly not against gay people. So, if you understood it a different way it's not what it was meant to be.
Again ,try replacing the word 'gay' with 'black' and think whether it would be racist.
And STILL people are downvoting me without telling me why!
It was a bizarre comment to make and regardless of your intent it really did come off as homophobic, so instead of telling Flog to get over himself, maybe you should apologize, because clearly it hit close to home, and even if you don't think it's a big deal, it is to him.
I understand you didn't intend it to be, but please just think:
"You are a sad little troll, go get a life. You're criticizing Kenny fans and we could do the same about black people..."
Can you see how that would be considered quite racist? Well, that's the same reason it is considered homophobic.
But I wasn't mocking them for their preference or opinion.
I was mocking the small number of kenny fans who spam the forums. And that, my friend, is very much a choice.
Not to suggest that opinions and sexuality are comparable anyway: our opinions can be changed by others, whereas our sexualities can not be.
Oh I see... I'm sorry you have to endure ignorant posts like that. You're a cool guy and even though I don't agree with you making a thread like this just for the minority of Kenny fans, you're still a valued poster.
I don't see it as them being homophobic. I see it as them being ignorant immature assholes.
I still see it as a valid "What if" non offensive comparison. Once again, my comment was meant to be anything but homophobic.
You could be straight as an arrow and we still wouldn't like each other. At least we're honest.
Wait, you're a guy? Huh, I thought you were a girl all this time.
You shouldn't be sorry, I just let it get to me and lost my temper.
Haha, well uh...surprise?
Criticizing a handful of people on the internet who like a guy with a mustache is not the same as criticizing a group of historically oppressed people who still continue to face injustice to this day. Not to get political, here, but it's just not a fair comparison at all. His point would have been made just as easily by just saying, "We could do the same about Lilly fans" or something. That's a fair comparison. To say "We could do the say about gay people" comes off as a borderline threatening dig. Maybe Headless didn't MEAN it that way, but it's easy to see how one would view it as such.
That's true, but that doesn't stop the fact that you used homophobia to strengthen your point when my sexuality was completely irrelevant and incomparable to the point I was trying to make anyway.
people would have flipped out at you if you said the above statement. Moire than anything, it shows how biased against gay people society is compared to against other forms of discrimination like racism or sexism.
Flog61 is high as fuck
Posting Kenny gifs and shit
i'm not saying we can criticize people about that but if he doesn't like ti then he shouldn't do it to anyone no matter how big or small the scale is compared to that.
I'm almost sure you're drunk...
Blaze it 420 bro
i haven't seen a kenny spammer since before episode 2 released, the last time i have only saw around 5 kenny confirmed gifs since episode 2 released, so you mean to tell me that it was worth creating a thread for around 1% of the forum who probably won't listen anyway?
I'm not defending Flog for making this thread. It was obnoxious, and I think he knows that now. My point is that Headless's response was also very obnoxious, but unlike Flog's comments, Headless's have some bad implications. He didn't mean them, but they're there nonetheless.
Spamming not just the gif, but talking about urban and boat and mustache in so many threads.
It's all very memey and bandwagony.
Not to mention the disturbing racism behind treating 'urban' so lightly, but that's not really the focus of the issue here.
You're understanding just half of it, what you want to.
You shouldn't make fun of Any group. It doesn't matter if it's small, big or if they like a guy with a mustache. It's not fair. The people who aren't being biased in this thread easily understood the point I was trying to make. Just because it's a small group on the internet they deserved to be mocked like this ? That's pretty hypocritical of you.
It's better if we just drop it.
Well, I know that there's a lot of fucked up Kenny fans, and your parody makes sense. At first it was even kinda funny, but now it's really annoying. Stop.
...dude I stopped like half an hour ago
Yeah ugh I have to agree, the urban thing is really funny IN CONTEXT but fans like to throw it around way too much.
first, so what if they talk about boats and mustaches and urbans? it really shouldn't be that much of a big deal like you're making it. also urban is not racist, it's clearly just a joke but as you said that's not the focus of this discussion.
It's not about the scale, it's about the type of group.
I'm critisising a group of people who are in that group because they choose to be, namely the group of people who spam about Kenny.
Of course we're allowed to critisise people for their choices. The entire law system is based around judging people's choices.
On the other hand, we should NOT by any means critisise people who can't help it, such as gay people, black people, disabled people etc.
As I've said before, the size of the group is irrelevant. It's about whether people chose to be in the group or not.
I'm critisising a group of people who are in that group because they choose to be, namely the group of people who spam about Kenny.
Of course we're allowed to critisise people for their choices!
Our entire law system is based around judging people's choices, and rightly so.
On the other hand, we should NOT by any means critisise people who can't help it, such as gay people, black people, disabled people etc.
Clem: "You're just drunk."
Okay. Btw, I am not "dude".
I call people dude regardless of gender or whether I like them and whether they like me.
In the words of Luke, they'll just have to deal with it.
BUT NO ONE HERE HAS MADE FUN OF GAY PEOPLE OR CRITICIZED YOU FOR BEING ONE.
How's that so difficult to understand? There's a difference between all of us overreacting and being a bit edgy and this you're making it to be.
If anyone comes across this argument they're gonna think I just wished gay people an eternity in hell.
Just like Kenny. :P
Like I said in another thread - Flog, I understand most of the Kenny fanbase are loudmouthed assholes who don't like most characters. Ok, I said it and I'll stand by it. I'm one of them. I don't like Luke, I've stated this before and you know my opinion on Luke fans but I don't go around being a stereotypical Luke fangirl do I? No. I just stand by my unpopular opinion and deal with it. You are making yourself look like an idiot and if you really dislike Kenny fans and think they act like this, don't stoop to their level.
So ok, we got that out the way. You have been calling people homophobic for a comment? Right, I've studied it's content and all he was doing was proving a point. I am bisexual, I have a boyfriend, I like men. Just putting that out there. All I am saying is, chill the fuck out. He said "You are a sad little troll, go get a life. You're criticizing Kenny fans and we could do the same about gay people..."
Ok? So from how I interpenetrate this he is saying "You are criticizing one group of people, why not another?"
So, lets stop trolling and go back to being a normal Christa fan? You are just making this situation a clusterfuck for no reason.
Lee: "Getting wasted's not going to help anyone."