Final Choice of Episode 5

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  • edited July 2014

    Wow...as LukazB said, you should replay the game. It didn't just go over your head, it was in a different atmosphere. Btw, you need a new subtle insult, because recycling the "think" BS just makes you look like a tool. Especially when you're the one who clearly doesn't understand what was happening.

    Legendary12 posted: »

    What do you mean played? The Individual helped us through the whole case...Left the head on the doorstep, gave us hints where to go in the i

  • What is with you? She got beaten up for essentially no reason, just because Woody was in a pissy mood. It doesnt matter that she was a prostitute.

    Did anyone force her into prostitution? No she was offered that line of work by the Crooked Man and took it. Keep playing the "white knight" though. Yes, every scumbag with a pretty face is a poor, poor victim.

  • No, "Faith" got beaten up because she is in an illegal line of work. You think law enforcement is handing out money to every hooker that catches a beating? No, in fact they would simply take the girl to jail too.

    Here's my point...let's replace "Faith" with a male drug dealer. Woody slaps him around, refuses to pay him and the scene plays out in a very similar manner. Do you think anyone would select to give the dealer the money he missed out on? NO! Yet people are willing to dish out money for Faith because she is a pretty female.

    KCohere posted: »

    What is with you? She got beaten up for essentially no reason, just because Woody was in a pissy mood. It doesnt matter that she was a prostitute.

  • I didnt give her money because she was pretty. I gave her money because she needed help. If she didnt get money to give to Georgie, she was going to probably get it worse. If it was a guy in the same position, I would have done the same thing. There are male prostitutes. I just cant understand how unsympathetic you are to someone who got beaten by someone who was twice their size for no reason. You think because she is a prostitute that she deserves it or should have expected it?

    No, "Faith" got beaten up because she is in an illegal line of work. You think law enforcement is handing out money to every hooker that cat

  • I chased after her, although I should've let her go as it's most cool film noir thing to do.

  • edited July 2014

    I am unsympathetic towards people who "make their own beds". Did she deserve to be slapped around? No, but sorry that's the line of work you chose sweetheart. I wouldn't spend my own money to protect a drug dealer from his supplier. So why would I spend my cash to protect a hooker from her pimp?

    Your major point here seems to be that she got beaten up for no reason. Well sadly people catch beatings all the time when they are involved in illegal activity. It could have been easily avoided by staying away from that lifestyle. Please feel free to visit some of your local prostitutes and give them some money though. I am sure they would appreciate it.

    KCohere posted: »

    I didnt give her money because she was pretty. I gave her money because she needed help. If she didnt get money to give to Georgie, she was

  • So basically you think she deserved what she got because she's a prostitiute. I got you.

    I am unsympathetic towards people who "make their own beds". Did she deserve to be slapped around? No, but sorry that's the line of work you

  • Didn't comment anything of the sort, but whatever you say.

    KCohere posted: »

    So basically you think she deserved what she got because she's a prostitiute. I got you.

  • edited July 2014

    I think your the one who doesn't understand the ending scene.

    Wow...as LukazB said, you should replay the game. It didn't just go over your head, it was in a different atmosphere. Btw, you need a new su

  • edited July 2014

    I think he just has a preconceived notion that prostitutes = bad, and so he automatically assumes that Nerissa/Faith deceiving Bigby at the beginning/end meant that they had some devious criminal plan. What he doesn't seem to understand is that regardless of who the person at the end was (I agree with you that Nerissa seems more likely), all she did was pretend that she was someone else to get Bigby to put an end the enslavement of her and other Fables.

    His constant insistence that others don't understand the ending is likely just projection of his own insecurity over his failure to grasp of the plot. Otherwise, he'd be more than happy to bolster his beliefs with arguments rather than just arrogantly proclaim his knowledge of what "really" happened.

    Legendary12 posted: »

    I think your the one who doesn't understand the ending scene.

  • Exactly... His Logic.... A girl who witnessed the passing of her two friends and was trapped because of the magic of the ribbon and would be killed by the Crooked mans order if she tried to escape is apparently not a victim...

    DomeWing333 posted: »

    I think he just has a preconceived notion that prostitutes = bad, and so he automatically assumes that Nerissa/Faith deceiving Bigby at the

  • I think the actual choice should have been going after or not rather than what your final words were to her

  • Really? She "made her own bed"? I dont think I'm out to sea here.

    Didn't comment anything of the sort, but whatever you say.

  • Yeah, aka you play with fire, you're gonna get burned. It isn't about "deserving" anything, but if you're stupid enough to put yourself in a dangerous position then murphy's law is bound to take place.

    KCohere posted: »

    Really? She "made her own bed"? I dont think I'm out to sea here.

  • edited July 2014

    Yet, Narissa never heard the Crooked Man say that he wanted anyone killed. Remember? That was revealed to us during the final scene. Yet another thing that completely went over your head. You were distracted by a pretty face, it happens.

    Legendary12 posted: »

    Exactly... His Logic.... A girl who witnessed the passing of her two friends and was trapped because of the magic of the ribbon and would be killed by the Crooked mans order if she tried to escape is apparently not a victim...

  • shots fired

    You have to follow her. Unless you're a fool who does anything for a pretty face. Oh wait, I forgot that the majority of players gave all their money to a prostitute in episode one for no reason. lmao

  • edited July 2014

    I think you're making baseless assumptions about my POV. The point is that Narissa (or whomever you want to think it is) was using you and fed you a bunch of lies about the Crooked Man. She even admits that at the end. Yet she still doesn't want to be completely honest with you, even when the ribbon is off.

    "Projection of his own insecurity over his failure to grasp of the plot." I love when pseudo-intellectuals like yourself try too hard to sound intelligent, and fall on their face grammatically. Keep up the condescending BS though. ;)

    DomeWing333 posted: »

    I think he just has a preconceived notion that prostitutes = bad, and so he automatically assumes that Nerissa/Faith deceiving Bigby at the

  • edited July 2014

    You're*

    Come on, it isn't that difficult.

    Legendary12 posted: »

    I think your the one who doesn't understand the ending scene.

  • I chased her

  • KunnyKunny Banned

    "Maybe..he's right..."

    You're* Come on, it isn't that difficult.

  • For the answer of the Faith/Nerissa theories it is best to replay the game. Woody can shed some light on who's who. Focus on Faith, and you will notice that one theory has almost no chance of being realistic.

    The Faith getting killed before the game theory is impossible. You should already know that.

    Legendary12 posted: »

    Exactly... His Logic.... A girl who witnessed the passing of her two friends and was trapped because of the magic of the ribbon and would be killed by the Crooked mans order if she tried to escape is apparently not a victim...

  • Oh good. So you do have some points to make. Not very good ones though. Nerissa (not Narissa...unless you think that's a part of her devious manipulation as well ;)) admitted to lying about hearing the Crooked Man give the direct orders, yes. Do you honestly think that makes him innocent though? Did you honestly fall for his whole helping Fabletown spiel?

    I think you're making baseless assumptions about my POV. The point is that Narissa (or whomever you want to think it is) was using you and f

  • edited July 2014

    lol, do I think the Crooked Man is innocent? No, but according to the law he is. You can't just make crap up during a trial just because you think a guy is guilty. It's wrong no matter how you slice it. NErissa is a liar and played Bigby to achieve her own goals. There isn't any denying that. If Nerissa was such a good/decent person, she would have just come clean about everything when the ribbon came off.

    DomeWing333 posted: »

    Oh good. So you do have some points to make. Not very good ones though. Nerissa (not Narissa...unless you think that's a part of her devious

  • edited July 2014

    Nerissa's goals were also Bigby's and Snow's goals. And most of the town's. What she did was technically illegal, yes. So was half the stuff that Bigby did to bring the Crooked Man to justice. And what would chasing after her do? Are you going to make her answer for her crime of lying at the trial? How? How would you prove she was lying?

    Nerissa already came clean to Bigby about the one crime she committed, even though she had no reason to. Her glamouring herself up as Faith and getting Bigby to feel sorry for her wasn't a crime. And she explained her reasoning for it. She didn't want Faith to fade away. She wanted someone to care for Faith enough to get her the justice she deserves. How does that make her a bad person?

    lol, do I think the Crooked Man is innocent? No, but according to the law he is. You can't just make crap up during a trial just because you

  • So the Crooked man is guilty... but by Law he isn't... Ever heard of corruption?

    Kunny posted: »

    "Maybe..he's right..."

  • Was it most of the town's goals? Seems to me that a lot of the people owed the Crooked Man a great deal. Especially since Crane and Snow were doing jack sh*t for them. How would I prove she is lying? She admitted to it! That isn't even the major issue though.

    Nerissa also omitted a lot of information that should have been spilled when the ribbon came off. Yes, it is a crime to lie to/deceive law enforcement. Dunno who told you otherwise. Yeah of course you ate all her BS up, that doesn't shock me. Don't question anything she says, I am sure she was 100% honest...or maybe you're just gullible as hell.

    DomeWing333 posted: »

    Nerissa's goals were also Bigby's and Snow's goals. And most of the town's. What she did was technically illegal, yes. So was half the stuff

  • The fact is that we don't know how guilty the Crooked Man was or wasn't. Nerissa lied. We don't know what conversation took place between him and Georgie. You're just willing to take Nerissa's intuition as gospel for no reason other than her being a cute female.

    Legendary12 posted: »

    So the Crooked man is guilty... but by Law he isn't... Ever heard of corruption?

  • Do you even know what corruption means?

    Legendary12 posted: »

    So the Crooked man is guilty... but by Law he isn't... Ever heard of corruption?

  • edited July 2014

    Was it most of the town's goals? Seems to me that a lot of the people owed the Crooked Man a great deal.

    Did you miss that whole "entire town standing besides Snow and Bigby against the Crooked Man" scene or something? Greenleaf was the one who owed Crane the most and even she wanted him gone, because she knew he that ruled the town through fear and intimidation.

    How would I prove she is lying? She admitted to it!

    The fact that Bigby's testimony isn't enough to convict someone of a crime is the whole reason why Nerissa had to lie in the first place.

    If Nerissa really wanted to escape, she could have just left without saying a word. She had no reason to approach Bigby and tell him she was lying or say any of what she said at the end, including that last phrase to clue Bigby in to who she was. How does that paranoid fantasy of yours explain why a supposed criminal would purposefully incriminate herself to Bigby when she could have easily just left without a word?

    Was it most of the town's goals? Seems to me that a lot of the people owed the Crooked Man a great deal. Especially since Crane and Snow wer

  • 1) Yeah, they did that after Nerissa lied...nice try though.

    2) Actually it would be enough in this case because Bigby heard it right from Nerissa's lips. The reason he was having trouble with the Crooked Man is because he had no legitimate evidence. (aka no one heard him give the order)

    Do you realize how suspicious that would have looked if Nerissa just disappeared without saying a word to Bigby? She wanted to keep playing the victim and leave without looking suspicious. Thankfully she was too stupid to do that correctly. So rational players were able to follow after her.

    DomeWing333 posted: »

    Was it most of the town's goals? Seems to me that a lot of the people owed the Crooked Man a great deal. Did you miss that whole "en

  • The way I see it is this, if we are talking to Nerissa than she lied at the trial, however if it was Faith we're talking to she told the truth at the trial and lied to us later about lying.

    DomeWing333 posted: »

    Was it most of the town's goals? Seems to me that a lot of the people owed the Crooked Man a great deal. Did you miss that whole "en

  • edited July 2014

    Uh. No. Play the scene again. Snow gives a speech, all the townies line up beside her, THEN Nerissa comes in.

    The argument the Crooked Man gave was that no one else heard Georgie's confession but Bigby. And if Nerissa does indeed have 5 other girls to back up what she says (which she probably would seeing as how they have a huge grudge against the Crooked Man as well), it's their words against his. Besides, Bigby was perfectly content with letting her go before his sudden realization at the end.

    How would it be suspicious? There was absolutely nothing indicating any wrongdoing on her part except for her confession to Bigby. Do you actually have a theory as to what she was doing or are you just suspicious of some nebulous criminal activity she may have been involved in?

    1) Yeah, they did that after Nerissa lied...nice try though. 2) Actually it would be enough in this case because Bigby heard it right fro

  • Yeah, Nerissa lied. Everyone and their grandmother knew the Crooked Man was guilty though. I don't think the trial was ever about incriminating evidence anyway. There was none to be had. It was really just about getting the jury on your side. That's what Nerissa helped with.

    Even without the murder charges, the CM had committed enough crimes to be executed anyway.

    The fact is that we don't know how guilty the Crooked Man was or wasn't. Nerissa lied. We don't know what conversation took place between hi

  • "I like your ass!"

    "You're lying, Morgan!"

  • That doesn't mean people shouldn't feel bad when bad things happen to these kinds of people. Maybe you personally don't care, but other people definitely do.

    Yeah, aka you play with fire, you're gonna get burned. It isn't about "deserving" anything, but if you're stupid enough to put yourself in a dangerous position then murphy's law is bound to take place.

  • "I'm tired of your shtick, Morgan. Spill it or we take you out in the alley and we knock it out of you!"

    Fizzdar posted: »

    "I like your ass!"

  • Exactly! Been saying that for a while now.

    LukaszB posted: »

    For the answer of the Faith/Nerissa theories it is best to replay the game. Woody can shed some light on who's who. Focus on Faith, and you

  • I let her go. The only bad thing she did was glamouring herself as another Fable (Faith or Nerissa depending on what theory you believe), which isn't even illegal.

  • Gone after her, of course. Though I had the feeling that it won't matter anyway.

  • Really? How did they know? There was no legitimate evidence.

    Such as? (things that you can prove, not crap Nerissa said)

    Belan posted: »

    Yeah, Nerissa lied. Everyone and their grandmother knew the Crooked Man was guilty though. I don't think the trial was ever about incriminat

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