What do you think? How do feel about child discipline?
I think discipline is extremely important.
When a child acts out, they need to be disciplined.
Now granted, discipline can take many different shapes and forms.
I myself feel, that when a child acts out, that at times a spanking is warranted.
Not to say that every situation warrants one.
But when the child deliberately defies the parent, like refusing to do what the parent tells them, then that's when a spanking is appropriate.
Disclaimer: I meant to post this in telltale talk. I forgot I was in TWAU.
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Wrong section...
And... what does that have to do with Fables or Wolf Among Us?
Why do you keep posting that?
I could never intentionally hurt a child.
Discipline doesn't have to be physical.
Discipline is a learning mechanism. Discipline doesn't need to be physical, but disciplining a child is pretty much required in order to have a good child.
Without a set of punishment for wrongdoing and rewards for good behavior, they will grow up without any set morals or values. Without morals or values, they go down a dark path.
If a child is throwing their milk, I take it away. If a child lies to my face, I would give them one more chance to tell the truth. If they keep lying, they get a spanking or something taken away. A system of punishment for rule breaking in the household.
I know. Kids should be disciplined when they're wrong, but hitting them is totally out of line. Just tell them off, or take away a toy. Don't frickin hurt them physically, a fecking defenceless child. I think its disgusting how anyone could hit a child.
My parents/teachers beat the shit out of me, so its only fair my kids get the same treatment. We must continue to pass down that legacy, its the only thing i have left.
I find it more disgusting when a child lies to my face, or steals something they shouldn't.
The difference between physical discipline and abuse is that discipline teaches, abuse simply traumatizes. Physical discipline is limited, abuse is uncontrollable.
Shut up George!
Rule number one in my house: NEVER touch my children.
I think a beating is over the line; a couple spankings on my bottom with a wooden spoon was enough to teach me.
Its a frickin kid for gods sake, you can't expect them to be perfectly behaved from day one. There is plenty ways to punish them without physically hurting them. Intentionally hurting your child just teaches them to be scared of you, not why it's wrong.
I just don't see how you could hurt a child when there are plenty other legit ways of punishing them. Its not like hitting them is the only option.
I think hurting a defenceless child is way more disgusting then a child lieing. I really don't see how you could think otherwise.
Don't make me get the switch.
I expect a child to know what is right and what is wrong.
When I was spanked by my dad or mom, I wasn't scared of my parents, I was scared of the punishment. See, my parents always hugged me and showed me affection after disciplining me. They hug me, talk to me, tell me why they punished me and why what I did was wrong.
But the spanking is totally unneccesary there. It could be replaced with a more humane form of punishment and have the same outcome as you describe. Taking away a toy, time out, whatever would have been just as effective, if not more because it's not over in a couple seconds like a spanking is. There are better and more humane ways to discipline a kid. Spanking doesn't even need to be an option.
If my future wife would ever hit our child, I'd fucking leave her on the spot and take the kid with me.
My grandpa did that.
Are you the guy who already made a thread about this?
Physical punishment such as you describe in the OP is, in my opinion, always abuse.
Are you serious?
I think it's okay. I've been "disciplined" before and I'm glad my parents did. But nowadays it's usually unacceptable,. and it might be the reason why our generation is like this, but it might not be. In my opinion, discipline sometimes should be used as long as the reason is valid, and there is no other way. I wouldn't want to discipline my child if I had one but if I thought I needed to I would. Discipline has shaped me as a person, and I feel like it's made me a better person. Just my opinion though.
What do you mean 'like this'?
Our generation is the most liberal there's ever been in modern western society.
Didn't you make a thread about the same thing before?
Spanking or beating doesn't work as a disciplinary measure, it's more likely to cause resentment than compliance, at least in the long term. Usually, corporal punishment is a sign of poor parenting. If the only way to keep a kid in line is to put them over your knee, you're probably doing something wrong.
The only time I think you should hit a kid is if they're having a serious tantrum and need to be snapped out of it. Even then, I would only do so as a last resort.
sighs Forget about it.
No, feel free, I'm genuinely interested.
Sarcasm?
No, actually.
Sorry, I can never tell on the internet, unless you still are lmao. But anyway, I find it hard to explain, but I guess it depends on your opinion. I just don't like the way kids/teenagers are these days.
But here's an example. Some friend messaged me, and said some lady was bragging that she taught her 4 year old daughter how to say "Shut the Fuck up," and how to twerk.
Thank you. That's the point I've been trying to make. I'm glad someone understands.
And agrees.
Well twerking isn't really immoral or anything so I don't see what's specifically wrong with that. Nothing morally wrong, anyway.
Regardless, the fact that this was about a lady teaching her child how to do it is actually a fault of the previous generation rather than the current one, isn't it?
When you're a parent, you'll see things differently.
Ohyoupokedme stated the principle behind a spanking very eloquently.
Spanking is a form of teaching, and there's a huge difference between physical discipline, and physical abuse.
Physical discipline is limited, and controlled.
Therefore, it will not traumamize the child, but rather learn right from wrong.
As a principle, if you discipline the kid; the consequences have gotta be such that he won't like them.
If he likes the consequences, then you're doing something wrong.
Because instead of teaching good behavior, you're actually re-enforcing bad behavior.
Saying he or she will see corporal punishment differently when he's a parent is just ridiculous.
That would be implying all parents thing it's okay. The surrogate we are using at the moment is a mother, and she is disgusted by the idea of using physical punishments.
Taking things away and making them time out only affects so much. Some children it may not affect at all. They may not mind a time out, or getting a toy taken away.
Spanking is three seconds. Kids can react differently to staring at a wall for five minutes, but everyone reacts the same to pain (it sounds sadistic, I know, but that isn't the point). Spanking is more efficient imo because it isn't a punishment you can bear or kinda wiggle around; nobody is going to enjoy a spanking. Sitting in a corner you can tolerate and bear after a long time of the same punishment. Spanking... It's quick, it gets the point across, and there is no way to wiggle around it.
That is incorrect.
No. Abuse is traumatizing. Discipline teaches.
Abuse is uncontrolled. Discipline has a limit.
Abuse is out of anger. Discipline is out of love.
Abuse is usually senseless. Discipline creates sense.
Abuse is a horror. Discipline is bearable.
Abuse leaves a scar. Discipline leaves a lesson.
DO NOT mistake one another. Abuse is a horrible thing, and I wont stand people comparing a spanking to abuse when there are people out there going through REAL abuse.
People out there who are rejected by their parents, even called NAMES by their parents! People who would gladly go into a family that spanked them a few times over the family that beats them over the head. People who are happy to be away from their family because of how they are treated! People who think about suicide because they feel nobody loves them, and a certain someone (hint: ME) has to talk him out of it, prove that someone loves them, even if it's just that certain someone! People who are used by the people around them, and leave him without a second thought. THAT IS ABUSE.
Maybe THAT is the problem.
Last I checked, everyone (except for those without feeling) can feel pain, and although there are ranges that people can experience pain and experience it differently, it is all negative, rarely positive.
Well that's just me having a different view on twerking I guess. And maybe it is, maybe there was influence from the current generation, I don't know, but obviously discipline was lacking in the woman. The point is sometimes discipline is necessary, but it's entirely up to the parent to decide.
Do you know how old the lady is?
Plus, twerking, as far as I know about the stupid thing, is basically leaning up against a wall and shaking your butt at people. Sounds pretty sexual to me.