I personally like to buy games direct from the developer, if at all possible
True, but Steam does have the advantage of keeping stuff tidy. For the games I really want I often buy directly from the developer, but there have been cases of me buying a second copy on Steam just for the sake of keeping stuff tidy.
wow. just curious... when you started computer gaming, was steam already up and running?
I'm not sure it's strange enough to warrant that "wow". I've played personal computer since they were on my Commodore 128 and now I, too, only play PC games if they're released on Steam. My buddies are all the same way.
Boxed copies of games take up precious space, generate a lot of garbage, have to be shipped around (pollution!), and can be easily damaged. Steam allows me to access my entire cataloge from any compter with a single log-in name, and has been around long enough that almost all of the kinks have been ironed out.
I'm not sure it's strange enough to warrant that "wow". I've played personal computer since they were on my Commodore 128 and now I, too, only play PC games if they're released on Steam. My buddies are all the same way.
I'll say it again... wow.
I just can't imagine not buying a game because I can't play it over an internet connection at my friends house. I get how nice it is to never have to worry about losing your only copy of a game, but I don't understand why you would punish the developer and yourself. I guess by this point, most PC games are ending up on the service, but still...
I dunno, Yare. If I was capable of playing the PS3-exclusive games I want on my 360, I would. That's basically the situation you have with that kind of logic, isn't it?
I dunno, Yare. If I was capable of playing the PS3-exclusive games I want on my 360, I would. That's basically the situation you have with that kind of logic, isn't it?
I'm not really talking about title availability. I like playing games that have gone through some sort of standardized QA, will auto-patch, and that I can play without any hassle. Steam offers a number of benefits in addition to this, and I really hope that someday disc-based games disappear and I can just download directly to my Xbox 720 or PS4 or whatever.
Call me old-fashioned, but I quite like my shelves filled with game boxes.
Of course, I've only got two small shelves and they're not completely full, but still
But Steam's auto-patching and easy buying are great benefits too. I hope both methods will stay around.
Not to mention the fact that if TOMI were on Steam about 11 million more potential customers would get to see it giving it THAT much more exposure.
It seems like a win-win situation for Telltale and seeing as most of us have their games already on Steam it's bloody FRUSTRATING that they haven't made an announcement yet.
Tis funny that at the top of this Monkey Island General Discussion page it states "Your burning questions answered on our site", so is that for people who have already pre-ordered the game then?
Come on Telltale, can we have an official response as to whether it's coming to Steam on release day or not?
I have to agree with you about buying from steam. I generally only want to get my games on that store since it makes keeping track of them incredibly easier.
As for your issues you had with steam, that really sucks. But I've never had any problem with it. I've been using steam since it first came out in beta (back for what, counter-strike 1.6?) and it's always worked well for me.
If only I could buy the game from telltale (for the dvd, etc.) then tie it to steam afterward.
At this point, I'm not sure what I'll do. I do know I'll be buying it one of the ways, though.
You can tie any game to steam even if it's not on steam if you want to now. It won't have the shift+tab overlay... but it will show up in your steam games list and read that you are playing "Tales of Monkey Island" if you wish it to...(it lets you enter the game names manually if it's not on steam.)
So essentially you can make steam your generic launcher for every game you install. Steam is a slick piece of software.... and I'll leave it at that.
I'm not really talking about title availability. I like playing games that have gone through some sort of standardized QA, will auto-patch, and that I can play without any hassle. Steam offers a number of benefits in addition to this, and I really hope that someday disc-based games disappear and I can just download directly to my Xbox 720 or PS4 or whatever.
Actually for me Steam is only the second option, especially here in Europe.
First I cannot get the DVD you guys sell over your shop.
I really felt burned, I bought the entire Sam and Max season1 over steam and asked your support nicely what could be done to get the season DVD, they told me nicely and helpful as usual there was no way to get it if I had bought the season over Steam. So in this case buying over Steam deprived me of the option to get the DVD!
Secondly the games end up often more expensive than in the stores (as well for Europe). Games are often already halfprice while Steam still charges full price or even are the same or more expensive than the retail copy and sometimes a printed manual in the store. But with the retail copy you get the media, with steam you just get... oh well!
That does not mean I dont buy from Steam, last weekend I bought for instance Trine which is on preorder, which I can heavily recommend, really interesting game! Unfortunately not directly buyable from the developers (which I prefer nowadays, I am not very eager to give a middle man money when the money can go directly to the devs!)
To get around the CRAZY prices in Europe just get a buddy to gift you the game from the states and pay them with paypal.
You will then get the games at dollar prices.
Steam is the only way to go on PC.
Sorry but Digital downloads is the future and it is only a matter of time before it is commonplace. Xbox 360 and PSN are already starting to do this.
I understand a lot of people are against it, but for a lot of us the convenience Steam affords plus the lack of space when you have your own home and family....I just can't recommend it enough.
I just wish the mods here would post something as to whether or not or indeed WHEN it is coming to Steam though.
I see all that steam stuff from another point of view. Indeed, I always used to buy my games in the box version but then once some é#§&çé!!! thieves passed by my house. Not only have they stollen some valuable stuffs like tv, camera... but they took with them some of my favourite video games. I had to buy them again to be able to play them. On steam, even if your account is hacked (what hoppefully never happened to me), you can get your access back and play the games without having to pay twice.
For TTG, the advantage is that you can also always re-download your games even if you've lost for any reason your box.
For now, I only got season 2 of Sam&Max trough steam but it will be the last one as I then passed away from that great box.
So yes, I too buy games only if they are on steam, except for TTG because of that download+box option.
If we did know for sure, why would we hide it from you?
Presumably to milk out as much profit from orders through your own store before mentioning that customers have a chance to give a cut of the cash to Valve.
I dunno about that. Telltale seems too naive and innocent to me to openly lie to us for profit. Then again they occasionally they convince us LeChuck is a woman.
I guess Telltale is sort of like Guybrush Threepwood reincarnated as a shambling corporate presence.
I wouldn't be concerned if I couldn't buy & download Telltale Games on Steam. Why? Well, if I wanted to have S&M in my Steam list, I add "non-steam" games (like I did for the entire S&M season 2) and YES, the Shift-Tab overlay shows up and everything is peachy keen.
If I wanted to support TTG for all their work, I will, and I will do it directly. I pay them the same way I pay Steam. I mean, why say "I'd only buy Wal-Mart candy because all my receipts would be the same". I appreciate what Steam does for the consumer in retaining their purchase history for downloading games that aren't installed. Telltale does the same thing, and to them I am incredibly grateful. The only downside to this is when my net goes down (on occassion) and I cannot access my Steam games. TTG games don't do this once activated (I think) and that's a good thing.
However, I think you will see "Tales..." on Steam eventually, if Lucas Arts allows it. I mean, their legions of storm-trooper lawyers agree to the idea and TTG strictly abides to the terms. But pre-ordering or buying the seasons/episodes from TTG isn't a bad thing. If you want to wait until it's on Steam, then all the power to you, it shouldn't make a difference what vendor you purchase it from. TTG will make money either way and you will be supporting the lovely creative people who deserve all of it.
Hell, why aren't you sending your supposed "30% of revenues goes to retailer" to TTG in a nice little manila envelope. You could encrust it with sparkles and glitter, just to show your appreciation.
I guess what I'm trying to say here is it shouldn't matter who you buy from online, as long as they're safe to use and they provide you with quality downloaded content. It's still a helluva lot better than dirtying this environment with boxes and plastic content that cannot be reverted back to eco-waste.
Steam has great deals every weekend, another reason why to keep using them. Why pay $49(US) for Assassin's Creed when you could've gotten it for $20? They have some other sweet package deals too. Steam proves that most games are overpriced, and you can make just as much profit or more off of less priced products. As long as the creative people are getting paid well, that's what matters.
My issue with buying digitally is that once you finish a game, if it has no replay value, it also has no resale value. Plus with PCs you can't *always* guarantee you'll be able to play a game even if it looks like it's compatible on paper - so if you end up purchasing something that doesn't even work on your system you've completely wasted your money. I know that there's a bit of a backlash against the used games industry at the moment but sometimes I need to think about the state of my wallet.
This is the first digital game I've purchased and I've done so because I have total confidence in the MI series and there aren't many games I can say that about.
Steam is not just being able to play with a friends house, its autoupdates, its community, its easy ingame chat with youre friends shift + tab, its all youre games with no drm mostly, i know some stupid developers like rockstar puts their drm infested crap on steam. uhh that Windows live crap uhhhh.
Steam if the future, and the simple best thing that has happened for the PC, and if godforbid it, steam should close every single game you own will be free up totally because you own it.
I like keeping all my games in steam, its also so easy to buy to ones friends, not to mention the weekend deals, more and more companies understand how weekend deals make you more money and get you more fans
Its not steams fault, some games are overpriced, its the "stupid" developers. Because Plants vs Zombies, was actully cheaper and has always been cheaper on Steam than on their own website.
and as a PC gamer, you keep youre games, because they are good and you might as well get used to it, because the consoles companies have already been out, and the second greatest threat besides piracy, is people reselling their games, so do not be surprised if the nextgen consoles youre games are locked to youre console. They loose money its as simple as that.
Steam is not just being able to play with a friends house
Okay, benefits. Here we go!
its autoupdates
That's great, but not so much for a game that doesn't actually get patched(with one major exception for Sam and Max Season One).
its community, its easy ingame chat with youre friends shift + tab
Which are all benefits that transfer over when you add them to your games list through the "Add a non-Steam game" feature.
I tried chatting with a Steam friend while playing Wallace and Gromit(purchased from Telltale), and the dialogue-heavy nature of it made me have to shut down the game to concentrate on the conversation.
its all youre games with no drm mostly
Telltale's isn't exactly invasive. Two forms of activation, 20 activations digitally and infinite disc-based activations. And I'm pretty sure Steam is the VERY DEFINITION of DRM. I mean, that's what the whole client is built around. Watching and keeping track of purchased content. Or, to put it another way, Digitally making sure the Rights of content holders are met by Managing the content.
and if godforbid it, steam should close every single game you own will be free up totally because you own it.[/url]
Actually, their activation servers won't work anymore and the EULA makes no promises nor guarantees that the activation for Steam games will be broken in the case of Steam going out of business.
I like keeping all my games in steam
"Add a non-Steam game."
its also so easy to buy to ones friends
Doesn't really benefit YOU to buy it for YOURSELF though, does it?
not to mention the weekend deals
...I can still shop at Wal-Mart even if I sometimes get a better deal at Target or Amazon.
That's great, but not so much for a game that doesn't actually get patched(with one major exception for Sam and Max Season One).
Which are all benefits that transfer over when you add them to your games list through the "Add a non-Steam game" feature.
I tried chatting with a Steam friend while playing Wallace and Gromit(purchased from Telltale), and the dialogue-heavy nature of it made me have to shut down the game to concentrate on the conversation.
Telltale's isn't exactly invasive. Two forms of activation, 20 activations digitally and infinite disc-based activations. And I'm pretty sure Steam is the VERY DEFINITION of DRM. I mean, that's what the whole client is built around. Watching and keeping track of purchased content. Or, to put it another way, Digitally making sure the Rights of content holders are met by Managing the content.
and if godforbid it, steam should close every single game you own will be free up totally because you own it.[/url]
Actually, their activation servers won't work anymore and the EULA makes no promises nor guarantees that the activation for Steam games will be broken in the case of Steam going out of business.
"Add a non-Steam game."
Doesn't really benefit YOU to buy it for YOURSELF though, does it?
...I can still shop at Wal-Mart even if I sometimes get a better deal at Target or Amazon.
Now just to be as annoying as you without adding anything, yes it does and yes yes and yes.
Thing is, that adds the game to the Steam interface, not to Steam itself.
Personally I spend the week in one place and the weekend in another. I use a different computer in each case. Being able to play any of my games any time I want without carrying a pile of CD's is incredibly useful.
Have I mentioned I have around 60 games on Steam alone? Imagine the mess it would be if I had gotten each in a different place. Steam also helps me keep my collection tidy.
Thing is, that adds the game to the Steam interface, not to Steam itself.
Personally I spend the week in one place and the weekend in another. I use a different computer in each case. Being able to play any of my games any time I want without carrying a pile of CD's is incredibly useful.
Ah. For that situation, I do suppose it would be useful in that scenario. I personally put games I want to bring with me on an external drive for similar purposes.
Have I mentioned I have around 60 games on Steam alone? Imagine the mess it would be if I had gotten each in a different place. Steam also helps me keep my collection tidy.
That's cool. I have a shelf. It's a bit less metaphysical, but it doesn't force me to give my video game money to one company. It never seems right to me, to refuse to buy a game unless you can pay some third party that has nothing to do with the creation of the game to get it to you. There are some good features, but it seems to me that tying yourself to that platform exclusively rather than using it ancillary to other purchasing methods seems alright.
The features of Steam are interesting, but it just doesn't seem like something to use exclusively. I mean, I've bought a few things from them (Civilization IV benefits greatly from portability, considering its multiplayer nature and the length of games), but the "interesting" just doesn't translate to "I must give Valve my money or there's no deal."
altho i'm getting disappointed with steam more and more, i'll keep buying there because i hate gameboxes lying all over the place and i often play in different locations. so... it's my best option anyway.
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Steam is not just being able to play with a friends house
Okay, benefits. Here we go!
How can you be disappointed with Steam?
I have never had any problems and NO DRM on anything I have, except GTA4 has a little GFW nonsense.
Even Mass Effect had it's DRM removed on Steam.
Sounds like a childish response to me.
its autoupdates
That's great, but not so much for a game that doesn't actually get patched(with one major exception for Sam and Max Season One).
And every game I have gets auto patched...EVERY game! If Sam and Max season 1 wasn't patched then that would be Telltales fault NOT steam!
its community, its easy ingame chat with youre friends shift + tab
Which are all benefits that transfer over when you add them to your games list through the "Add a non-Steam game" feature.I tried chatting with a Steam friend while playing Wallace and Gromit(purchased from Telltale), and the dialogue-heavy nature of it made me have to shut down the game to concentrate on the conversation.
Also WHY would you want to chat with your friends whilst playing an adventure game is beyond me?
The one type of games that really requires concentration and your busy yapping to your friends...Serious case of WTF right there buddy.
I like keeping all my games in steam
"Add a non-Steam game."
Why would I want to?
its also so easy to buy to ones friends
Doesn't really benefit YOU to buy it for YOURSELF though, does it?
OH GOOD GRIEF..I MEAN SERIOUSLY!
not to mention the weekend deals
...I can still shop at Wal-Mart even if I sometimes get a better deal at Target or Amazon.
Off you go then...good luck when your disc gets scratched or you lose your CD key.
Steam is awesome and even the mods here love playing TF2 on it.
It's not about GIVING Valve money as you put it, there are some freaking good deals on there as well.
Right now Fallout 3 is only $19.99 Thats 50% off!
Also a lot of us here have our own families, and trust me when I say space is a premium, and I have almost 70 games on there. Can you imagine the space 70 PC games boxes would require.
Also a lot of my old game CD/DVDs that are immaculately looked after don't work anymore and are unreadable.
Steam solves this problem.
As I said before it would give Telltale *Who in all fairness* are not the most well known of companies, a LOT more exposure.
They are just acting a little silly by not answering as to whether or not it is coming to Steam.
I agree with many posters here, steam is my retailer of choice for digital purchases. I won't reiterate all the conveniences steam has to offer, but I'll add to that my unique situation.
The thing is I live in Iceland, a tiny nation in the North-Atlantic, pretty cut off from Europe. Since we are so removed from any nearby countries, all internet traffic outside the country goes through a sea cable and is logged and I have a cap of 40gb of external download every months. That's right, only 40gb, that's the absolute maximum these days (after the bank collapse, it used to be higher). I can fill up that quota quite easily and have to constantly monitor my usage to make it last. Thankfully, my internet service provider has a local steam content server, which means I can download a lot of the games (not all of them) on steam locally without having to worry about adding to my download limit.
Another thing, as much as I would really love to add a physical copy of ToMI to my collection, it's an impractically expensive luxury for a resident of Iceland. Due to extremely strict customs laws and high taxes, every single thing that comes into the country, however small in value, is subject to customs fees and taxes. That means I have to pay an extra $21 to the Icelandic government just to get the disc through customs. That's $32 extra (with the shipping costs) just to get a physical copy, nearly doubling the total cost of the game from $35 to $67, not to mention with our currency down the toilet the exchange rate isn't doing good things to my wallet.
So for me, digital download only, through steam, would be ideal. Give the word Telltale, please
I live in Japan and we are also quite limited to our choice of downloadable games to pathetic region restrictions.
Although there are various ways around this, VPN, gifting from Steam or dare I say it....torrents.
This is why Steam is great because even though almost 40% of Steam is blocked, I can just ask my buddy in the US to gift it to me and voila!
Also Steam is VERY well respected in Asia and people trust it, whereas they wouldn't be sure as to be so free with their credit card info to someone else.
Better to keep it stored in one place rather than spread out...right.
That's the thumb rule over here.
People over here rely on Steam for info on new games and putting TFMI on there will guarantee a wider audience, who would otherwise be oblivious to it.
Throwing in my thoughts, I pre-ordered Monkey island to show my support for the franchise here then I used my free game to grab another episode already out.
So i have a key for an existing episode, and I'd like to add that into steam to use as a download manager, to consolidate where all my Down-loadable games and accounts are. but even thought the game exists on steam, it wont register the CD key. Other games do this fine, why can't telltale?
most of the games on the list use Steam as their form of DRM like all the Valve games, Dawn Of War II or Dark Messiah for the multiplayer part of the game.
, is people reselling their games, so do not be surprised if the nextgen consoles youre games are locked to youre console. They loose money its as simple as that.
Sorry but I dont really buy the loosing money argument again it is argumented like that that one sold used game == one game sold less new. I assume that by shutting down the used game markets nothing will be won well even worse less new games are sold. Lets face the fact that new games nowadays on consoles are so expensive that one incentive even to buy them is that you easily can sell them off. Which is not that easily possible anymore for pc games, and we all know where the PC market for games is nowadays!
and we all know where the PC market for games is nowadays!
It is quite well if you count the money that is made by pay to play MMOGs like World Of Warcraft. The Amount of money Blizzard is earning every month with this graphically enhanced chat-program is ridiculous.
"I don’t know what the plans are for Tales of Monkey Island on Steam. Even if the game does show up on Steam, though, the pre-order bonuses and the Collector’s DVD at the end of the season are only available to customers who buy the games from Telltalegames.com, so if those are important to you, I suggest placing a pre-order with Telltale."
i like steam, i like to have all my games on one account, i want to have dozens of accounts on developer websites
I'm not against Steam on principle, really. In fact, I use it for some games. But then there are the Steam fanatics that won't buy their games anywhere else, which seems ridiculous. I mean, I can get some games cheaper than I can through Steam, while Steam's weekend deals are often quite good. I don't really tie myself to an activation system.
The problem I have is that the PC is a nicely open games market by design. I am fine with having multiple accounts across various sites because I don't know about you guys, but there are very few games that I am constantly playing at the same time. I make sure that those games that I want to replay are easy to reinstall.
Steam is so great for multiplayer games, I can't reiterate that enough. But I just don't see the feature set as something to tie myself to, while the Telltale release is more than ideal for me, especially when it comes to the Adventure genre and the more "indie", "fringe" gaming scene.
I think if anybody starts to tie themselves to only shopping at one store, they cut themselves off from great things not sold in that venue...and they are chaining themselves to a corporation's bank account when that corporation isn't making the product they're selling.
A more direct approach is generally favorable to me.
Sorry but I dont really buy the loosing money argument again it is argumented like that that one sold used game == one game sold less new. I assume that by shutting down the used game markets nothing will be won well even worse less new games are sold. Lets face the fact that new games nowadays on consoles are so expensive that one incentive even to buy them is that you easily can sell them off. Which is not that easily possible anymore for pc games, and we all know where the PC market for games is nowadays!
Ofc you get that damn consol for almost free? seriously is the gaming market only filled with cheap *** sorry, but seriously, people want everything without paying anything, ofc consoles games are expensive, MS - Sony and so on, they loose money giving you consoles the first many many years, if they had to make a profit on selling consoles they would have to charge 2 if not 3 times as much as they cost.
They survive by taking profit of the games. Dont be so cheap. Gaming is a hobby, and hobbies cost money.
Dont take my word for it, it was sony i think that was out and say it was a problem that you consol users sell the games after one playthrough.
In other news steam does have what? 20 million users now. Atleast put the game out the same time on steam. Never loosing ones game again, because of bad quality DVD/CD or because ones harddrive blows up or you loose it.
I think most people that hate steam are those with little to no knowledge about computers (PC) or with slow connection, but that is not Steams fault.
Myself i can download any game within a hour, most take 1-10minutes.
Like it or not Steam or other steam like programs are the future. and i mean omg my steam program takes 0-1% Cpu power and a total of 28mb ram ouch.
But the handsdown best thing about steam is the weekend deal, i mean those few companies that understand how to make money, cheaper = alot more sales = more money. just love it.
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I'm not sure it's strange enough to warrant that "wow". I've played personal computer since they were on my Commodore 128 and now I, too, only play PC games if they're released on Steam. My buddies are all the same way.
Boxed copies of games take up precious space, generate a lot of garbage, have to be shipped around (pollution!), and can be easily damaged. Steam allows me to access my entire cataloge from any compter with a single log-in name, and has been around long enough that almost all of the kinks have been ironed out.
The PSP Go is neat for the same reasons.
I'll say it again... wow.
I just can't imagine not buying a game because I can't play it over an internet connection at my friends house. I get how nice it is to never have to worry about losing your only copy of a game, but I don't understand why you would punish the developer and yourself. I guess by this point, most PC games are ending up on the service, but still...
I look at it like this. I have a Wii, an Xbox 360, a PS3, and a Steam.
I'm not really talking about title availability. I like playing games that have gone through some sort of standardized QA, will auto-patch, and that I can play without any hassle. Steam offers a number of benefits in addition to this, and I really hope that someday disc-based games disappear and I can just download directly to my Xbox 720 or PS4 or whatever.
Of course, I've only got two small shelves and they're not completely full, but still
But Steam's auto-patching and easy buying are great benefits too. I hope both methods will stay around.
It seems like a win-win situation for Telltale and seeing as most of us have their games already on Steam it's bloody FRUSTRATING that they haven't made an announcement yet.
Tis funny that at the top of this Monkey Island General Discussion page it states "Your burning questions answered on our site", so is that for people who have already pre-ordered the game then?
Come on Telltale, can we have an official response as to whether it's coming to Steam on release day or not?
You can tie any game to steam even if it's not on steam if you want to now. It won't have the shift+tab overlay... but it will show up in your steam games list and read that you are playing "Tales of Monkey Island" if you wish it to...(it lets you enter the game names manually if it's not on steam.)
So essentially you can make steam your generic launcher for every game you install. Steam is a slick piece of software.... and I'll leave it at that.
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Actually for me Steam is only the second option, especially here in Europe.
First I cannot get the DVD you guys sell over your shop.
I really felt burned, I bought the entire Sam and Max season1 over steam and asked your support nicely what could be done to get the season DVD, they told me nicely and helpful as usual there was no way to get it if I had bought the season over Steam. So in this case buying over Steam deprived me of the option to get the DVD!
Secondly the games end up often more expensive than in the stores (as well for Europe). Games are often already halfprice while Steam still charges full price or even are the same or more expensive than the retail copy and sometimes a printed manual in the store. But with the retail copy you get the media, with steam you just get... oh well!
That does not mean I dont buy from Steam, last weekend I bought for instance Trine which is on preorder, which I can heavily recommend, really interesting game! Unfortunately not directly buyable from the developers (which I prefer nowadays, I am not very eager to give a middle man money when the money can go directly to the devs!)
You will then get the games at dollar prices.
Steam is the only way to go on PC.
Sorry but Digital downloads is the future and it is only a matter of time before it is commonplace. Xbox 360 and PSN are already starting to do this.
I understand a lot of people are against it, but for a lot of us the convenience Steam affords plus the lack of space when you have your own home and family....I just can't recommend it enough.
I just wish the mods here would post something as to whether or not or indeed WHEN it is coming to Steam though.
For TTG, the advantage is that you can also always re-download your games even if you've lost for any reason your box.
For now, I only got season 2 of Sam&Max trough steam but it will be the last one as I then passed away from that great box.
So yes, I too buy games only if they are on steam, except for TTG because of that download+box option.
Still no answer Telltale!
If we did know for sure, why would we hide it from you?
I guess Telltale is sort of like Guybrush Threepwood reincarnated as a shambling corporate presence.
If I wanted to support TTG for all their work, I will, and I will do it directly. I pay them the same way I pay Steam. I mean, why say "I'd only buy Wal-Mart candy because all my receipts would be the same". I appreciate what Steam does for the consumer in retaining their purchase history for downloading games that aren't installed. Telltale does the same thing, and to them I am incredibly grateful. The only downside to this is when my net goes down (on occassion) and I cannot access my Steam games. TTG games don't do this once activated (I think) and that's a good thing.
However, I think you will see "Tales..." on Steam eventually, if Lucas Arts allows it. I mean, their legions of storm-trooper lawyers agree to the idea and TTG strictly abides to the terms. But pre-ordering or buying the seasons/episodes from TTG isn't a bad thing. If you want to wait until it's on Steam, then all the power to you, it shouldn't make a difference what vendor you purchase it from. TTG will make money either way and you will be supporting the lovely creative people who deserve all of it.
Hell, why aren't you sending your supposed "30% of revenues goes to retailer" to TTG in a nice little manila envelope. You could encrust it with sparkles and glitter, just to show your appreciation.
I guess what I'm trying to say here is it shouldn't matter who you buy from online, as long as they're safe to use and they provide you with quality downloaded content. It's still a helluva lot better than dirtying this environment with boxes and plastic content that cannot be reverted back to eco-waste.
Steam has great deals every weekend, another reason why to keep using them. Why pay $49(US) for Assassin's Creed when you could've gotten it for $20? They have some other sweet package deals too. Steam proves that most games are overpriced, and you can make just as much profit or more off of less priced products. As long as the creative people are getting paid well, that's what matters.
This is the first digital game I've purchased and I've done so because I have total confidence in the MI series and there aren't many games I can say that about.
Steam if the future, and the simple best thing that has happened for the PC, and if godforbid it, steam should close every single game you own will be free up totally because you own it.
I like keeping all my games in steam, its also so easy to buy to ones friends, not to mention the weekend deals, more and more companies understand how weekend deals make you more money and get you more fans
Its not steams fault, some games are overpriced, its the "stupid" developers. Because Plants vs Zombies, was actully cheaper and has always been cheaper on Steam than on their own website.
and as a PC gamer, you keep youre games, because they are good
That's great, but not so much for a game that doesn't actually get patched(with one major exception for Sam and Max Season One).
Which are all benefits that transfer over when you add them to your games list through the "Add a non-Steam game" feature.
I tried chatting with a Steam friend while playing Wallace and Gromit(purchased from Telltale), and the dialogue-heavy nature of it made me have to shut down the game to concentrate on the conversation.
Telltale's isn't exactly invasive. Two forms of activation, 20 activations digitally and infinite disc-based activations. And I'm pretty sure Steam is the VERY DEFINITION of DRM. I mean, that's what the whole client is built around. Watching and keeping track of purchased content. Or, to put it another way, Digitally making sure the Rights of content holders are met by Managing the content.
Personally I spend the week in one place and the weekend in another. I use a different computer in each case. Being able to play any of my games any time I want without carrying a pile of CD's is incredibly useful.
Have I mentioned I have around 60 games on Steam alone? Imagine the mess it would be if I had gotten each in a different place. Steam also helps me keep my collection tidy.
That's cool. I have a shelf. It's a bit less metaphysical, but it doesn't force me to give my video game money to one company. It never seems right to me, to refuse to buy a game unless you can pay some third party that has nothing to do with the creation of the game to get it to you. There are some good features, but it seems to me that tying yourself to that platform exclusively rather than using it ancillary to other purchasing methods seems alright.
There's also the thing that the PC is the only truly "open" release platform. If not getting Steam means cutting out releases like AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA!!! -- A Reckless Disregard for Gravity and Determinance, I'd rather not.
The features of Steam are interesting, but it just doesn't seem like something to use exclusively. I mean, I've bought a few things from them (Civilization IV benefits greatly from portability, considering its multiplayer nature and the length of games), but the "interesting" just doesn't translate to "I must give Valve my money or there's no deal."
altho i'm getting disappointed with steam more and more, i'll keep buying there because i hate gameboxes lying all over the place and i often play in different locations. so... it's my best option anyway.
AND i can still pay in $...
How can you be disappointed with Steam?
I have never had any problems and NO DRM on anything I have, except GTA4 has a little GFW nonsense.
Even Mass Effect had it's DRM removed on Steam.
Sounds like a childish response to me.
And every game I have gets auto patched...EVERY game! If Sam and Max season 1 wasn't patched then that would be Telltales fault NOT steam!
Also WHY would you want to chat with your friends whilst playing an adventure game is beyond me?
The one type of games that really requires concentration and your busy yapping to your friends...Serious case of WTF right there buddy.
Why would I want to?
OH GOOD GRIEF..I MEAN SERIOUSLY!
Off you go then...good luck when your disc gets scratched or you lose your CD key.
Steam is awesome and even the mods here love playing TF2 on it.
It's not about GIVING Valve money as you put it, there are some freaking good deals on there as well.
Right now Fallout 3 is only $19.99 Thats 50% off!
Also a lot of us here have our own families, and trust me when I say space is a premium, and I have almost 70 games on there. Can you imagine the space 70 PC games boxes would require.
Also a lot of my old game CD/DVDs that are immaculately looked after don't work anymore and are unreadable.
Steam solves this problem.
As I said before it would give Telltale *Who in all fairness* are not the most well known of companies, a LOT more exposure.
They are just acting a little silly by not answering as to whether or not it is coming to Steam.
You must be in the same club then
The thing is I live in Iceland, a tiny nation in the North-Atlantic, pretty cut off from Europe. Since we are so removed from any nearby countries, all internet traffic outside the country goes through a sea cable and is logged and I have a cap of 40gb of external download every months. That's right, only 40gb, that's the absolute maximum these days (after the bank collapse, it used to be higher). I can fill up that quota quite easily and have to constantly monitor my usage to make it last. Thankfully, my internet service provider has a local steam content server, which means I can download a lot of the games (not all of them) on steam locally without having to worry about adding to my download limit.
Another thing, as much as I would really love to add a physical copy of ToMI to my collection, it's an impractically expensive luxury for a resident of Iceland. Due to extremely strict customs laws and high taxes, every single thing that comes into the country, however small in value, is subject to customs fees and taxes. That means I have to pay an extra $21 to the Icelandic government just to get the disc through customs. That's $32 extra (with the shipping costs) just to get a physical copy, nearly doubling the total cost of the game from $35 to $67, not to mention with our currency down the toilet the exchange rate isn't doing good things to my wallet.
So for me, digital download only, through steam, would be ideal. Give the word Telltale, please
Although there are various ways around this, VPN, gifting from Steam or dare I say it....torrents.
This is why Steam is great because even though almost 40% of Steam is blocked, I can just ask my buddy in the US to gift it to me and voila!
Also Steam is VERY well respected in Asia and people trust it, whereas they wouldn't be sure as to be so free with their credit card info to someone else.
Better to keep it stored in one place rather than spread out...right.
That's the thumb rule over here.
People over here rely on Steam for info on new games and putting TFMI on there will guarantee a wider audience, who would otherwise be oblivious to it.
So i have a key for an existing episode, and I'd like to add that into steam to use as a download manager, to consolidate where all my Down-loadable games and accounts are. but even thought the game exists on steam, it wont register the CD key. Other games do this fine, why can't telltale?
Only these games can be registered:
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7480-WUSF-3601
most of the games on the list use Steam as their form of DRM like all the Valve games, Dawn Of War II or Dark Messiah for the multiplayer part of the game.
Sorry but I dont really buy the loosing money argument again it is argumented like that that one sold used game == one game sold less new. I assume that by shutting down the used game markets nothing will be won well even worse less new games are sold. Lets face the fact that new games nowadays on consoles are so expensive that one incentive even to buy them is that you easily can sell them off. Which is not that easily possible anymore for pc games, and we all know where the PC market for games is nowadays!
It is quite well if you count the money that is made by pay to play MMOGs like World Of Warcraft. The Amount of money Blizzard is earning every month with this graphically enhanced chat-program is ridiculous.
If it happens, great. If not, who cares?
"I don’t know what the plans are for Tales of Monkey Island on Steam. Even if the game does show up on Steam, though, the pre-order bonuses and the Collector’s DVD at the end of the season are only available to customers who buy the games from Telltalegames.com, so if those are important to you, I suggest placing a pre-order with Telltale."
i like steam, i like to have all my games on one account, i want to have dozens of accounts on developer websites
The problem I have is that the PC is a nicely open games market by design. I am fine with having multiple accounts across various sites because I don't know about you guys, but there are very few games that I am constantly playing at the same time. I make sure that those games that I want to replay are easy to reinstall.
Steam is so great for multiplayer games, I can't reiterate that enough. But I just don't see the feature set as something to tie myself to, while the Telltale release is more than ideal for me, especially when it comes to the Adventure genre and the more "indie", "fringe" gaming scene.
I think if anybody starts to tie themselves to only shopping at one store, they cut themselves off from great things not sold in that venue...and they are chaining themselves to a corporation's bank account when that corporation isn't making the product they're selling.
A more direct approach is generally favorable to me.
Ofc you get that damn consol for almost free? seriously is the gaming market only filled with cheap *** sorry, but seriously, people want everything without paying anything, ofc consoles games are expensive, MS - Sony and so on, they loose money giving you consoles the first many many years, if they had to make a profit on selling consoles they would have to charge 2 if not 3 times as much as they cost.
They survive by taking profit of the games. Dont be so cheap. Gaming is a hobby, and hobbies cost money.
Dont take my word for it, it was sony i think that was out and say it was a problem that you consol users sell the games after one playthrough.
In other news steam does have what? 20 million users now. Atleast put the game out the same time on steam. Never loosing ones game again, because of bad quality DVD/CD or because ones harddrive blows up or you loose it.
I think most people that hate steam are those with little to no knowledge about computers (PC) or with slow connection, but that is not Steams fault.
Myself i can download any game within a hour, most take 1-10minutes.
Like it or not Steam or other steam like programs are the future. and i mean omg my steam program takes 0-1% Cpu power and a total of 28mb ram ouch.
But the handsdown best thing about steam is the weekend deal, i mean those few companies that understand how to make money, cheaper = alot more sales = more money. just love it.
It is still a good service though, especially for multiplayer games, but the prices are shit unless you live in US or UK.