Possible explanation to the 'Pirate God' thing
I do not want to re-ignite that whole 'paganism' thing, here.
I think a lot of people have been reading into that and making assumptions when they should really wait until that episode is released and we can see what it means for ourselves. (Remember; never ‘Assume’, it makes an ‘Ass’ out of ‘u’ and ‘me’).
Anyways, I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere, yet, so I figured I'd point it out myself.
In EMI (I slightly dislike that abbreviation and anything that makes me think about major record labels) there was a deranged ghost who had come to see LeChuck in a slightly absurd way and started a church in his name. The whole thing looked not completely unlike many Christian chapels, except for a lava 'flume' ride that went right through it (which served as part of the wedding service where LeChuck was to marry Elaine). Guybrush was even considered to be the "Anti-LeChuck". (There was a bit of recurring theme that nobody would believe that Guybrush was who he said he was, usually because he didn't meet their descriptions).
I think a lot of people have been reading into that and making assumptions when they should really wait until that episode is released and we can see what it means for ourselves. (Remember; never ‘Assume’, it makes an ‘Ass’ out of ‘u’ and ‘me’).
Anyways, I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere, yet, so I figured I'd point it out myself.
In EMI (I slightly dislike that abbreviation and anything that makes me think about major record labels) there was a deranged ghost who had come to see LeChuck in a slightly absurd way and started a church in his name. The whole thing looked not completely unlike many Christian chapels, except for a lava 'flume' ride that went right through it (which served as part of the wedding service where LeChuck was to marry Elaine). Guybrush was even considered to be the "Anti-LeChuck". (There was a bit of recurring theme that nobody would believe that Guybrush was who he said he was, usually because he didn't meet their descriptions).
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Also, nice avatar.
Who the hell cares if there is god in the title
It's so ridiculous, haha
PS. I know about the joke that spoofs the Save/Restore/Quit screen found in many Sierra games.
You better be careful what you say; The only thing more painful than an online discussion about religion is an online discussion about grammar/vocabulary as they apply to phrases like "begs the question"
He died in CMI.
By the way, that is one of the funniest moments in CMI (spoilers, obviously):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rREKIPsDi6g
actually, im honoured. 2 days on this forum got me so popular, that there was a whole thread started in my name))))) oh, and its LMI.
im glad that my posts got peoples thoughts steering in the right direction.
well, to me (at least) its much more than that!..
im sorry for popping out again on this topic. but what possible funny scenario can u imagine by the phrase "rise of the pirate god" this reminds me of a title "hitler - the rise of evil". nothing funny... at all. actually, it even sounds serious. thats what makes me really upset bout it.
at least 4 ppl in this forum do. though, im sure thered b much, much more, had the poll been left open.
In that he states that he isnt a real person
Which means the consequences of Life and Death do not apply to him
He is not a god
he is a video game character
I truly believe you are a troll, and that you are only saying these things to get attention.
I really don't see how you can be offended by the title.
Obviously, I don't know all the details so I have to assume some details...
Okay first, seeing as LeChuck regularly practices Voodoo and has been a ghost/zombie/demon I think it's safe to assume LeChuck is NOT a practicing Christian.
So if the title refers to LeChuck... in his belief system he has become a pirate God. Since he isn't Christian, this in no way competes with the Christian concept of God, nor does it say anything about the Christian God. Additionally, since it is his belief system it in no way means you have to accept it as him becoming a god.
It's exactly the same as you meeting a practicing Hindu in real life, and you being offended because they call something a god and they worship that god. You don't have to agree with them or accept their beliefs, but it is entirely wrong of you to be offended at that.
You said, in another post, that people should be free to have whatever religious beliefs they want. So... why can't LeChuck have his own religious beliefs?
It is just a video game. If you are making anything more of it, you need to take a hard look at yourself. If you still have a problem with it, play something else. I am sorry if anyone takes this the wrong way.
By the way, lmi, have you visited id Software's forum yet? They have a game about hellish demons called Doom, and a game about Nazi Germany called Wolfenstein. The latter actually involves a resurrected Adolf Hitler. When you have a chance, you should pay them a visit.
PS. I think that I like the atmosphere of the Private Forum more.
In an awesome robot suit with machine gun arms, no less.
LOL
lol if LeChuck believes hes a "god", thatd mean that hes a total idiot))) which, i guess actually is funny and, of course, acceptable!))) im just afraid its not so... but if it is... LOL
k. maybe using it in a title isnt wrong (or isnt totally wrong). im just disturbed by the thought that it MIGHT turn out to b sheer disappointment like 3rd part of the 'potc'.
its been my favourite (or one of the most favourite) game for the last 15years or so... do u think that something loved so much can b easily dismissed just like that?
not sure i understand what ur getting at. at the moment, im really concerned about the content of this particular Monkey Island, not all the games in the world. besides resurrecting hitler in a pc game doesnt seem as terrible as what im afraid MIGHT b put into the game under that title. i just hope it turns out like some ppl say...
sure... if that’s the case...
thank u guys! some suggestions that u've made were most comforting... i really hope it turns out as well as you say...
I should hope not. Tales of Monkey Island is sure to be a love letter to the fans.
My point is that Monkey Island is not as offensive as some of the other games on the market.
You are not in any way representative of MI fans in general. Also, try spelling out words and use capitation when you write, instead of using "u" and "2". It's nearly impossible to understand what you are saying.
Trying to keep this thread on topic I have another idea in regards to speculation for the meaning of the 'Pirate God'.
I've been reminded that the Caribbean is in close proximity to central america (I know it's something that those of you who actually live in the western hemisphere mightn't need reminding about but I don't and so it's not as if the map in my mind is particularly accurate) and therefore close to the former Aztec Empire (I use the word 'former' because, to the best of my knowledge, it wasn't even there by the time Monkey Island is set in).
I don't exactly consider myself 'well informed' on Aztec History but I do know that many of the kings proclaimed themselves to be gods and that they were not only revered as such but many human sacrifices were made to them.
I doubt this will be related but I was thinking of the movie 'Pirates of the Caribbean' earlier and remembered the whole deal about the cursed Aztec Gold in the original film. If somebody in the game was to proclaimed themselves a ‘pirate god’ through some Aztec ritual it would almost certainly still be LeChuck.
Please, nobody say anything about how the Aztec Kings might have been silly to proclaim themselves gods….
But thats whats interesting about MI
In the game, he isnt a real person
Unlike games like Halo, Master Chief is a real person, in the game
But Guybrush is a character who knows he is not real, even within the boundaries of a video game
Does that make sense?
I can say I'm in the same boat. I'm a very conservative Christian, and this didn't phase me. It is a Pirate God...in Monkey Island...a fictional, albeit awesome, computer game. They aren't (hopefully) attacking any religions in these stories, so why get worked up?
The whole time was full of paganism, and the area was as well. So it seems historically correct to put some paganism stuff into the game. I dont think like it will refer to any real diety. Just some messed up funny story like it usually is in Monkey Island
Would probably not fit in if there suddenly began to be gods in Monkey Island. Voodoo seems just about the only practiced religion in the game, and its for comical reasons of course. I hope at least one of the chapters will be about making a voodoo doll again
Same here. This is entirely a non-issue as far as I'm concerned. Monkey Island has never been controversial in its subject matter. It's always been about ridiculous, slapstick and sarcastic humor that doesn't take itself seriously. It's no different than Max being anointed high priest of the sea simians.
I happen to be designing a game myself, and the characters take themselves quite seriously, but at the end of the day, I know that they are just characters in a video game, and if one of them professes himself to be a god, the other characters in the game may have a problem with it, but I don't see why the audience would, as he is clearly not a real person (living or dead).
As long as we are on the subject, one of my favorite Ghostbusters lines is:
Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say "YES"
personally, i'm pretty sure whatever you're afraid of happening is exactly what i hope happens. anybody who uses the term "paganism" in the year 2009 deserves to get riled up.
I play Monkey Island and visit these forums to not get a philosophical view on God or politics but relax. I don't want to hear about it.
Of course, the opposite spectrum of making your user title "god..." :rolleyes: