Why are people so nasty about transgender people?

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  • Is there female DNA? Shouldn't OP be talking about genes?(lol rock DNA)

    There is no tiger/rock/tree/unicorn DNA Wait, so you're telling me I'm not a unicorn?

  • You think lowly of your fellow man, most are able

    You are absolutely right, i am pretty much disgusted by society's behavior. I find it morally, spiritually corrupt, abhorrent. A lot of things going on, and i just shake my head. People find solace in Kim Kardassian, she is the role model for today's female mind.

    What the fuck.

    Mariana238 posted: »

    Hence why better exposure well help people to become more accepting. You think lowly of your fellow man, most are able, just all they know about trans people is "gay guy trying to trick me into sex"

  • If someone looks like a girl, acts like one, says they are one, but happens to be trans, are you going to call them "he" or "Jim". Because that is just cruel. You aren't being harmed by calling them he, but they are. Can't you just be civil, even if you don't agree?

    Is being called the right pronoun really "special treatment"?

    Entropino posted: »

    But it does not give the right to transgendered to demand that you change the words you use or your view on genders. Or else you are transph

  • edited February 2015

    Again, science bitch. Male and female brains are different, different parts are different sizes etc etc. Please look it up instead of just spewing whatever you think is common sense.
    Gender isn't a social construct, that is ludacrious. There is a story of a man who had a botched circumcism as a baby, so an "esteemed" psychologist said they should raise him as a girl, and never tell him he was born a boy.

    However...when he was a teenager, he would say he was a boy, that the female body was wrong.
    He was never told he was actually born a male, he thought he was born female. However, he had THE MALE BRAIN.
    Social construct my ass.

    Entropino posted: »

    Euhm can't women and men think differently because there are other things affecting them. Like hormones or the environment. Everyone things

  • edited February 2015

    A botched circumcision, and the child realizing he has fucked up genitals is the basis for your argument? Not a great one. For the most part genders are social constructs, there is very little difference between the brain of a female and the brain of a male, especially in regards to adult versions of both. Aside from reproduction (and the things that come with it, ei hormonal changes when pregnant) there is little that separates the two genders aside from cultural norms.

    Mariana238 posted: »

    Again, science bitch. Male and female brains are different, different parts are different sizes etc etc. Please look it up instead of just s

  • Then this goes back to his point that by calling them their preferred pronoun you are changing your definition of the term. Some people may not put much importance to the way they use their words, others do. I could call a cat a dog, but that would be asinine. Even if the cat wanted to be called a dog I would be going against the definition that I know as cat and the definition I know as dog.

    Mariana238 posted: »

    If someone looks like a girl, acts like one, says they are one, but happens to be trans, are you going to call them "he" or "Jim". Because t

  • They made it indistinguishable from a vagina, gave him hormones that made him have female puberty, he had no idea.

    If gender is just a social construct, why are people transgender? Most of them know since they were very young, they wouldn't have the life experience of knowing these social constructs.

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    A botched circumcision, and the child realizing he has fucked up genitals is the basis for your argument? Not a great one. For the most part

  • edited February 2015

    So if you were in some car accident, and only your brain survived, so they transplanted it into another body, which happened to be female, would you suddenly become female? You wouldn't mind being called she, or Betty, being considered a lesbian, hating your body?

    You are your brain, your body is just sack of meat you walk around in. Some peoples bodies developed different to their brains, and you are going to be an asshole to them because "common sense".

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    Then this goes back to his point that by calling them their preferred pronoun you are changing your definition of the term. Some people may

  • ...Your car accident argument makes no sense.

    Mariana238 posted: »

    So if you were in some car accident, and only your brain survived, so they transplanted it into another body, which happened to be female, w

  • I don't care what you say im a rock and society should stop antagonising me for it, so what if i walk and speak? That doesn't mean i can't be a rock sorry all my rock buddies wish i could do something about the getting climbed on all the time and kicked thing but i can't...Im a rock

  • I know it literally can't happen. It is hypothetical

    Was basically saying, are you your brain or your body?

    ...Your car accident argument makes no sense.

  • I would be a female. With the memories of a man and more specifically the memories of the social norms of a man, yes, but I would be a woman. (Though this hypothetical situation doesn't make much sense to begin with.)

    On the same train of thought if a woman were in a car accident and she had massive brain damage would she no longer be female?

    A man can have masculine and feminine traits, as a woman can have feminine and masculine traits, but they are men and woman respectively.

    Mariana238 posted: »

    So if you were in some car accident, and only your brain survived, so they transplanted it into another body, which happened to be female, w

  • Mind giving me a link to this event? I doubt it was identical, I also doubt they recreated his entire likeness to be identical to that of a young girl.

    People are transgender because these people want to have the opposite genitals and/or (and more likely) they want to be recieved as the opposite sex (often because their personalities clash with the social norms around them- I have more in common with the typical woman than I do with the typical man, I should be a woman).

    Most children who believe they were born the wrong sex (around 80 percent if I recall correctly) realize they are incorrect by the time they reach adulthood. Many live the rest of their lives as heterosexuals, most live their lives as homosexuals. I asked my niece the other night if I should wear nail polish, she said I wasn't a girl so I couldn't. I asked her where she heard that and she said that her uncle (my cousin, actually) had told her that boys couldn't paint their nails. She is 4, and yet she had already been "taught" by the people around her that social norms dictated that boys could not wear nail polish.

    PS I'm not saying gender is just a social construct, I'm saying it's mostly a social construct and using "brain differences" as reason for accepting transgenders is largely misguided. I accept them because as long as they don't bother me in anyway (like sleeping with me without my knowledge) then I have no reason to deny them what they are sure will make them happy. To each their own. Sometimes there is no greater reasoning behind something, sometimes its nothing more than "I want."

    Mariana238 posted: »

    They made it indistinguishable from a vagina, gave him hormones that made him have female puberty, he had no idea. If gender is just a so

  • Even if i had a brain transplant, to another body, There is no possible way my crazy brain will think guys are cute.

    ...Your car accident argument makes no sense.

  • edited February 2015

    I firmly believe, that for a person to change from one sex to another, is wrong, just as I believe homosexuality is wrong.
    Changing one's gender is not natural or normal, in my opinion, as if it were, people would naturally be able to change their sex, and not have to rely on a surgeon to do it for them.

    I do understand your point about showing respect.
    Respect is a key ingredient for a civilized society to exist.
    And one of the biggest reasons why humanity is in such bad shape, is because people nowadays, generally speaking, have no respect for anyone or anything.

    I personally, will strive to show respect for both homosexual and transsexual people, as long as they will accord me the same treatment.

  • We need more people like you in this world :) In this day and age, being able to respect and tolerate people and things that you don't like is essential, and there's not enough of it.

    Kenny/Lee posted: »

    I firmly believe, that for a person to change from one sex to another, is wrong, just as I believe homosexuality is wrong. Changing one's g

  • How can a circumcised penis look exactly like a vagina? I dont believe im thinking I want some photographic proof but I dont want to look at pic of baby genitals so we have to go by the accounts of others.

    Personally I think circumcision is digusting and shouldn't be done and anyone who does it should be sent to prison. why religious leaders are obsessed with babies gentalia is a mystery to me especially if you believe that the child was created by god why would god do everything right but make the genitals wrong (im talking about in religion not transgender) I personally dislike religion

    Mariana238 posted: »

    They made it indistinguishable from a vagina, gave him hormones that made him have female puberty, he had no idea. If gender is just a so

  • In that case when you get sick dont go to the doctors just wait for your body to reject the cancer for you or for yor rotten teeth to magically fix themselves. Your very small minded I hope you dont have children because with that attitude they wont be able to go to you for advice on modern life

    Kenny/Lee posted: »

    I firmly believe, that for a person to change from one sex to another, is wrong, just as I believe homosexuality is wrong. Changing one's g

  • You should show more respect. Did he say that he opposed medicine and technology just because we weren't given it from the beginning? If that was the case, he wouldn't be on this forum! This is just his opinion, and I think I know him well enough to know that he wouldn't just deny his kids the chance to get help for a serious medical condition.

    In that case when you get sick dont go to the doctors just wait for your body to reject the cancer for you or for yor rotten teeth to magic

  • They did say unless you can change naturally you shouldnt do it, and medicine isn't natural. Also im sure they are happy to watch girl on girl pornography because im sure I saw this poster say they liked jenna jameson and other porn stars, why is homosexuality ok if its for the satisfaction of others in exchange for money but not ok behind closed doors as an act of love

    You should show more respect. Did he say that he opposed medicine and technology just because we weren't given it from the beginning? If tha

  • edited February 2015

    I would want nothing but the very best for my children, like any responsible dad would.
    I cling to traditional values, however, and would want to teach them to do the same, as well as to stand up for their beliefs, even if their beliefs are unpopular.
    That's what a REAL MAN does, he stands by his principles.
    He doesn't change them, just so he can gain the favor of others.

    And thank you for sticking up for me.

    You should show more respect. Did he say that he opposed medicine and technology just because we weren't given it from the beginning? If tha

  • But what if one of them was gay? Im sorry I dont mean to say that your a bad parent but people dont chooses to be different they cant help it if they could why would people commit suicide because they hate themselves for there differences

    Kenny/Lee posted: »

    I would want nothing but the very best for my children, like any responsible dad would. I cling to traditional values, however, and would w

  • edited February 2015

    With all due respect, you do not know anything about me.
    So to assume that I'm a narrow-minded man, because I stand by my principles, is unfounded.
    And your implications, as to what type of dad I would be, are deeply insulting.

    And since I am a Christian man, allow me to share this thought with you.
    "But if one does not look out for his own, especially those of his immediate family, he has disowned the faith, and is worse than an unbeliever," 1 Timothy 5:8. ( Byington Bible.)
    So I take the idea of being a father very seriously.

    In that case when you get sick dont go to the doctors just wait for your body to reject the cancer for you or for yor rotten teeth to magic

  • edited February 2015

    You're being rediculous here. Kenny/Lee simply stated his opinion when it came to sex change. Perhaps he sees it as pointless, but would not object to modern medicine which saves lives. You can't possibly know that he will apply the same logic to EVERYTHING.

    Honestly, You need to find something better to do than assume thing about others.

    They did say unless you can change naturally you shouldnt do it, and medicine isn't natural. Also im sure they are happy to watch girl on gi

  • edited February 2015

    Fair enough

    Edit: I dont need a 2000 year old book to teach me to be a good person and love my family. The bible is condridictive as fuck and has a hateful small minded sentiment. If you edit your posts make it clear because I was sorry before but now I dont give a fuck.

    Kenny/Lee posted: »

    With all due respect, you do not know anything about me. So to assume that I'm a narrow-minded man, because I stand by my principles, is un

  • Well I'd hope that everyone, man or woman, would stand by their principles unless they had a change of heart. If it's what you believe in, then stand by it, no matter how unpopular it may make you. You'd make a very good father.

    Kenny/Lee posted: »

    I would want nothing but the very best for my children, like any responsible dad would. I cling to traditional values, however, and would w

  • edited February 2015

    Honestly, I do believe it is a choice.
    For example, a woman I know, was for years married to a man who abused her very badly.
    After he died, she began living as a lesbian.
    Evidently, she was looking for the tenderness her late husband would not give her, that, and the chance would be less likely that a fellow woman would physically abuse her.
    So she made a choice to live that lifestyle.

    And that is what proves to me, along with other examples like it, that prove to me that it is a choice.
    And incidentally, according to a report I read a few years back, it stated that domestic violence does occurs in homosexual relationships, sometimes even more so than in straight ones.

    But what if one of them was gay? Im sorry I dont mean to say that your a bad parent but people dont chooses to be different they cant help it if they could why would people commit suicide because they hate themselves for there differences

  • edited February 2015

    I was not trying to shove the bible down your throat.
    I was merely using it, to prove my point, that I do take the idea of fatherhood seriously.

    My dad also gave me a good example of what it means to be a good father.
    It was from him, that I learned to how be a man.
    And sharing that scripture with you, is something that he use to do with me growing up.

    Fair enough Edit: I dont need a 2000 year old book to teach me to be a good person and love my family. The bible is condridictive as fuck

  • edited February 2015

    Luke 14:26 – " If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple."

    Apparently you cant love your family and jesus at the same time

    Kenny/Lee posted: »

    I was not trying to shove the bible down your throat. I was merely using it, to prove my point, that I do take the idea of fatherhood serio

  • This esteemed psychologist also forced him to have sex with his brother(might not be relevant but kinda fucked up)

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    Mind giving me a link to this event? I doubt it was identical, I also doubt they recreated his entire likeness to be identical to that of a

  • Hmmm well your brain cells would still have XY chromosomes so you would technically be a man. But even if those magically changed to XX would I be a woman? Yes. Would I mind being called a she? No why would you care? Would I be lesbian? Probably.(my name probably wouldn't change) Would I hate my body? No I would be attracted to female bodies as a hetro man so I would at least in the beginning enjoy it. If being an asshole calling something what it is then yes I am. Will I care how they dress what they do? No. (What do you mean with bodies developing differently to brains one is part of the other)

    Mariana238 posted: »

    So if you were in some car accident, and only your brain survived, so they transplanted it into another body, which happened to be female, w

  • Ok.....

    AWESOMEO posted: »

    There is no tiger/rock/tree/unicorn DNA in there for the brain to develop. Bullshit, I'm Lance Armstrong's missing testicle and no one can tell me otherwise.

  • AWESOMEOAWESOMEO Banned
    edited March 2015

    Let me clear that up:

    You certainly can love Him and your family at the same time. Right after He says that Yeshua relates a metaphor about a man who builds a house without counting the cost and finds that he cannot follow through with what he set out to do. He leaves the house unfinished because he cannot pay what is required. Yeshua is showing us the explanation to His difficult statement - that we must count the cost of discipleship. This is the point of the passage. In order to be a disciple, we must be willing to give up everything for Yeshua. Therefore, if our parents will not follow Him, or even if they disown us for what we believe in, we must still choose Him over them. It is in this sense that we are "hating" our family members who reject Him. This is not easy, and of course it is right that we should love our family members and want our family members to love and follow God. After all, John 4:7-8 says "Beloved, let us love one another for love is from God and everyone that loves is born of God and knows God. The one who does not love does not know God for God is love." And that is only one of many passages commanding us to love others. But despite our love for the people we know, here is the key: if they don't love Yeshua, He must still be our first priority. We must esteem Him more highly than the people we love here on earth and we must love Him more than our own lives. In fact, we must love Him so much that our earthly loves pale in comparison, even to the point of seeming like hate.

    What Yeshua meant by that is that you must love him more than you love your family and even yourself, it would be ridiculous if he really preached for hatred towards one's own family considering the fact that all his teachings were to let people know they need to get along and love each other.

    Luke 14:26 – " If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple." Apparently you cant love your family and jesus at the same time

  • Wait... what??

    Entropino posted: »

    This esteemed psychologist also forced him to have sex with his brother(might not be relevant but kinda fucked up)

  • No seriously, can I get a link to this "research." I'm intrigued.

    Entropino posted: »

    This esteemed psychologist also forced him to have sex with his brother(might not be relevant but kinda fucked up)

  • Don't ruin his dreams!

    ualexen92 posted: »

    Ok.....

  • Because it's easier to discriminate and hate against something one doesn't understand than to try to learn more about it and be accepting.

  • http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer . It should be there (control f thrusting movements)

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    No seriously, can I get a link to this "research." I'm intrigued.

  • Im not taking that shit from someone who said all muslims are murderers because of some lines in there holy book. All holy scripture has messages of hatred and condones killing in the name of god. Its funny how you translate the message in your bible metaphoricaly yet the korran in your opinion is straight up and open to no interpretation at all.

    Enlightened racism

    AWESOMEO posted: »

    Let me clear that up: You certainly can love Him and your family at the same time. Right after He says that Yeshua relates a metaphor abo

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