I only know this name when she's been referenced in other TV shows. Anybody else find it annoying when a show keeps mentioning celebrities? Can the really expect you to know who every one of them is? (That was rhetorical, I don't want to drag this off topic).
Hmmm, personal Doctor was seen running away when Paramedics arrived. Now he's wanted for questioning but has taken to the hills. Something fishy going on there.
Lol 90. I hope that was a typo or a really weird joke that I don't get.
Actually, it technically was a typo. I saw the number on my local news and thought it said 90. I also didn't know he died of a cardiac arrest. Stupid stupid stupid.
But I really have known someone who was around 90.
Hmmm, personal Doctor was seen running away when Paramedics arrived. Now he's wanted for questioning but has taken to the hills. Something fishy going on there.
Hmmm, personal Doctor was seen running away when Paramedics arrived. Now he's wanted for questioning but has taken to the hills. Something fishy going on there.
Hmmm, personal Doctor was seen running away when Paramedics arrived. Now he's wanted for questioning but has taken to the hills. Something fishy going on there.
doubt it, conspiracy is always around when a massive star dies, look at Diana.
Great singer/dancer/entertainer. He inspired me a lot as a performer, and I am very saddened. Sure he never lived his childhood, which made him very odd and um... Some... Word... but from what I understand, he was almost finished with it. It confused most of us, because, what are we to think? Should we feel sorry, should we celebrate his life? should we say good riddance, as one less crazy dude is on this earth? I'm still not sure, but I do know I lost a role model (to an extent), and I lost an inspiration. I can see him moon-walking with Peter Pan to Neverland. You will be missed.
should we say good riddance, as one less crazy dude is on this earth?
To be fair, it's the "crazy dudes" that are willing and able to change the world. There's a reason that genius and madness are so closely related. (Granted, sometimes it leads to Hitlers and Kim Jong Ils).
Well it's hard not have. Gone from "He's never going to be able to do all those shows..." to "He was about to make his comeback...".
Not according to you he wasn't!
To be fair, it's the "crazy dudes" that are willing and able to change the world. There's a reason that genius and madness are so closely related. (Granted, sometimes it leads to Hitlers and Kim Jong Ils).
I would disagree. The difference is that the "great" genii are more noticeable because of their abilities. There are masses of, frankly, mad people throughout the city you live in. When one gets power, then you'll notice it, but just walking past Fred from the Post Office, nobody will know... until he shoots everybody.
Also, Hitler was more of an accident than anything else. A comedy of errors, resulting in a strange man being elected through fear of Communism. It wasn't his 'genius' that made him so bad, in fact he was downright dim. Had Hitler been a genius, we wouldn't have been able to overthrow Nazism.
sorry for that, i'm an historian, you touched a nerve
Oh yeah, and R.I.P. Michael Jackson and good luck to his family.
Well yes, not all geniuses are mad, and not all madmen are geniuses. But the two do collide extremely often. I guess I should have rephrased my post. I meant that it takes a fresh (and sometimes skewed) view of the world to introduce anything new to it. In other words, one shouldn't write somebody off just because they are eccentric.
On the subject of Hitler, I can't help but think that he was just too far gone to display his true intelligence (which would also support the fact that the Allies won). It takes intelligence to manipulate so many minds, and maybe if he had followed a different path, he could have been one of the century's greatest men.
Of course, this is something that's nigh impossible to prove one way or the other. A man of average intellect can still accomplish more than his "mental superiors", and a brilliant man can act downright stupid. This is just the conclusion I've drawn from studying Hitler.
(Also, no apology necessary. It's just refreshing to see a rebuttal that doesn't consist of "lol nub hatler wuznt smrt lrn2germany". And as a historian, you're more likely to be correct than me, a guy who just has an interest in psychological abberations.)
Well yes, not all geniuses are mad, and not all madmen are geniuses. But the two do collide extremely often. I guess I should have rephrased my post. I meant that it takes a fresh (and sometimes skewed) view of the world to introduce anything new to it. In other words, one shouldn't write somebody off just because they are eccentric.
On the subject of Hitler, I can't help but think that he was just too far gone to display his true intelligence (which would also support the fact that the Allies won). It takes intelligence to manipulate so many minds, and maybe if he had followed a different path, he could have been one of the century's greatest men.
Of course, this is something that's nigh impossible to prove one way or the other. A man of average intellect can still accomplish more than his "mental superiors", and a brilliant man can act downright stupid. This is just the conclusion I've drawn from studying Hitler.
(Also, no apology necessary. It's just refreshing to see a rebuttal that doesn't consist of "lol nub hatler wuznt smrt lrn2germany". And as a historian, you're more likely to be correct than me, a guy who just has an interest in psychological abberations.)
Indeed. It's more a question of reasonable deductions than proving the 'truth' which is why historical debate on Nazism still thrives, though in reality it is a reasonably open and shut case in most areas.
Generally, when dealing with Hitler, one must look at how he took to power. Often, the historians (and indeed politicians) just after WWII would make the case that Hitler was a cunning fiend who had mislead them all! Of course, this was more based on convenience than fact, but a case can be made for it. For example, he destroyed SA in favour of winning over the army in summer '34. However, many more aspects in favour of Hitler's cleverness have been overplayed heavily. For example, the supposedly revolutionary propaganda (while very clever) does not seem to have won over as many as some have argued. Indeed, governing by emergency decree (often seen as Hitler's first step to dictatorship) was actually continuing the trend which the Reichstag had seen for the five-six years since the Wall Street disaster; the Catholic centreist 'Zentrumspartei' had ruled by special emergency powers before Nazism even took up momentum.
Obviously, to get a good knowledge of the whole subject will take you about ten well-chosen books and a good few articles in historical journals, but if you're really interested in Nazism/Hitler, the best book to get yourself started is probably "Hitler: 1889-1936 Hubris" by Ian Kershaw. In this book, Kershaw argues (for the first time) that Hitler was not some kind of prodigy, but a weak dictator whose generals often made decisions in the hope of 'working towards Hitler.'
That's extremely interesting. I guess I was under a highly outdated misconception. Thanks for clearing that up, and I'll keep an eye out for that Kershaw book.
(and yeah, sorry folks. The jump from MJ to Hitler, while working as an accidental commentary on the media's view of him circa the first half of the decade, is entirely off-topic.)
Yeah, when Billy's commercials would come on, I would watch them, because he frightened me with his yelling. "Okay, I'll watch the ad, just don't yell at me." lol!
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RIP Fawcett and MJ
She certainly picked the wrong day to die...
Wouldn't surprise me!
I only know this name when she's been referenced in other TV shows. Anybody else find it annoying when a show keeps mentioning celebrities? Can the really expect you to know who every one of them is? (That was rhetorical, I don't want to drag this off topic).
What?!?!
That is just Wrong :mad:
Tell his sister that
Actually, it technically was a typo. I saw the number on my local news and thought it said 90. I also didn't know he died of a cardiac arrest. Stupid stupid stupid.
But I really have known someone who was around 90.
It's a..... Conspiracy!!
Moral of the story is: Be Nice To Your Doctor
doubt it, conspiracy is always around when a massive star dies, look at Diana.
Thats why you should eat an apple a day
To be fair, it's the "crazy dudes" that are willing and able to change the world. There's a reason that genius and madness are so closely related. (Granted, sometimes it leads to Hitlers and Kim Jong Ils).
Not according to you he wasn't!
Ah anyway, RIP
I would disagree. The difference is that the "great" genii are more noticeable because of their abilities. There are masses of, frankly, mad people throughout the city you live in. When one gets power, then you'll notice it, but just walking past Fred from the Post Office, nobody will know... until he shoots everybody.
Also, Hitler was more of an accident than anything else. A comedy of errors, resulting in a strange man being elected through fear of Communism. It wasn't his 'genius' that made him so bad, in fact he was downright dim. Had Hitler been a genius, we wouldn't have been able to overthrow Nazism.
sorry for that, i'm an historian, you touched a nerve
Oh yeah, and R.I.P. Michael Jackson and good luck to his family.
Well yes, not all geniuses are mad, and not all madmen are geniuses. But the two do collide extremely often. I guess I should have rephrased my post. I meant that it takes a fresh (and sometimes skewed) view of the world to introduce anything new to it. In other words, one shouldn't write somebody off just because they are eccentric.
On the subject of Hitler, I can't help but think that he was just too far gone to display his true intelligence (which would also support the fact that the Allies won). It takes intelligence to manipulate so many minds, and maybe if he had followed a different path, he could have been one of the century's greatest men.
Of course, this is something that's nigh impossible to prove one way or the other. A man of average intellect can still accomplish more than his "mental superiors", and a brilliant man can act downright stupid. This is just the conclusion I've drawn from studying Hitler.
(Also, no apology necessary. It's just refreshing to see a rebuttal that doesn't consist of "lol nub hatler wuznt smrt lrn2germany".
Indeed. It's more a question of reasonable deductions than proving the 'truth' which is why historical debate on Nazism still thrives, though in reality it is a reasonably open and shut case in most areas.
Generally, when dealing with Hitler, one must look at how he took to power. Often, the historians (and indeed politicians) just after WWII would make the case that Hitler was a cunning fiend who had mislead them all! Of course, this was more based on convenience than fact, but a case can be made for it. For example, he destroyed SA in favour of winning over the army in summer '34. However, many more aspects in favour of Hitler's cleverness have been overplayed heavily. For example, the supposedly revolutionary propaganda (while very clever) does not seem to have won over as many as some have argued. Indeed, governing by emergency decree (often seen as Hitler's first step to dictatorship) was actually continuing the trend which the Reichstag had seen for the five-six years since the Wall Street disaster; the Catholic centreist 'Zentrumspartei' had ruled by special emergency powers before Nazism even took up momentum.
Obviously, to get a good knowledge of the whole subject will take you about ten well-chosen books and a good few articles in historical journals, but if you're really interested in Nazism/Hitler, the best book to get yourself started is probably "Hitler: 1889-1936 Hubris" by Ian Kershaw. In this book, Kershaw argues (for the first time) that Hitler was not some kind of prodigy, but a weak dictator whose generals often made decisions in the hope of 'working towards Hitler.'
Sorry for off-topic everyone.
That's extremely interesting. I guess I was under a highly outdated misconception. Thanks for clearing that up, and I'll keep an eye out for that Kershaw book.
(and yeah, sorry folks. The jump from MJ to Hitler, while working as an accidental commentary on the media's view of him circa the first half of the decade, is entirely off-topic.)
He would've made an excellent voice actor, too.
No, they won't.