Tales of Monkey Island - Characters just messy polygons.
System specs: P4 2.8 Ghz, 1GB RAM, ATI Radeon 9250, all drivers updated, including directx.
Everything starts up fine, but I cannot set the graphics quality higher than 3, and all the characters (LeChuck, Elaine, etc...) look like masses of jumbled polygons. Everything else looks fine, and all the Strong Bad games work fine on my machine, as well.
I've tried just about all the in-game settings, various resolutions, graphics settings 3, 2, and 1. No luck. The background objects look great, the characters look like crud.
Any suggestions?
Everything starts up fine, but I cannot set the graphics quality higher than 3, and all the characters (LeChuck, Elaine, etc...) look like masses of jumbled polygons. Everything else looks fine, and all the Strong Bad games work fine on my machine, as well.
I've tried just about all the in-game settings, various resolutions, graphics settings 3, 2, and 1. No luck. The background objects look great, the characters look like crud.
Any suggestions?
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The game will not allow me to go above 3, I only get 1, 2 or 3 as options.
The game crashed in the following two scenarios:
Graphics set to 1, resolution 640x480, 32-bit color depth.
Graphics set to 3, resolution 1024x768, 16-bit color depth.
I know 16-bit isn't supposed to work, but thought I'd try it for thoroughness.
Again, surely this still exceeds your minimum specifications?
I'll give the Omega drivers a shot and let you know what happens.
Estel,
Yeah, my system plays Half-Life 2 - at a pretty high quality - as smooth as glass, but isn't up to handling Monkey Island? This is a bit difficult to believe.
Thanks, both.
-D.
I will send an email to tech support in the morning. I don't want a refund, I want to play this game.
I'll also continue tweaking settings on the video card and see if I run across anything.
Thanks.
I don't want to advertise my own thread, but just ask you whether your problem is the same as mine, so would you mind looking at these screenies:
http://g.imagehost.org/0885/grafikfehler.jpg
http://h.imagehost.org/0881/grafikfehler_even_more_impressing.jpg
Are these the same?
Would be "good" to know someone else having the problem!
Sorry for not being able to help you, though
Strange thing, I found the original cd that came with my graphics card and installed the original drivers from that disk. This time the characters (and anything the characters interact with) looked great, but there was no background, floor, walls, etc. The characters looked like they were floating in an empty void. I then downloaded the driver from the website and I got the messed up characters again.
I will revert back to the ATI drivers and post a screen shot, if I can. Thanks.
-D.
Same issue, half the poly's are showing, backgrounds show up fine, just character sprites ain't showing up properly.
Most likely guess as to why its broken, probably because ATI dropped all support and new drivers for older cards below like the 9800's a year or so back, and somewhere in dev of ToMI they used something that the older card drivers don't support.
Continuing to experiment with this. I'll let you know if I come up with anything that works.
Hope this posts correctly.
Anyone running that card with Vista should be aware that ATi didn't/doesn't support it with Vista and that it's somewhat buggy with Vista (from experience).
Edit: I might just install this on my other computer. I have to reinstall the OS on that one first, but the graphic card is only a year old and still supported. The setup just isn't as ideal for gaming as the one with the ATI 8500DV graphic card.
If you're on Windows XP I would suggest removing your drivers completely (just a normal uninstall, then a reboot), then installing either the latest, or those directly before, and trying again. Though I'm guessing you've probably tried that, I personally ran screaming from the ATi ship some time ago (9800 Pro was the last card for me), due to similar polygon issues in other games some time ago.
Most interestingly Catalyst 6.11 make no mention of the 9250 in the release notes, at all. ( See: 6.11's Release Notes.) Not as a display of bias against ATi, but simply to make the point, that is worrying.
Might be worth finding the CD that came with the drive (if applicable) and finding out which version was on that. Granted, there may be bugs on it too, but it'd still be interesting to know if the new code is killing TMI.
Well, I have the same problem too. But I have the 9200 and XP Home...
I'm running this game on an ATI 9600 with the latest drivers and all the graphics are fine.
The 9600 should be pretty cheap nowadays, especially since ATI have just discontinued support. It might be an idea if you see if you can get your hands on one of these if you don't want to spend out for a more up-to-date card.
I have the same specs as him but a radeon 9200. Characters are a mess. Backgrounds are perfect and game runs smoothly. Also only have detail level to 3.
I hope someone gets an answer... i too am not interested in a refund and just want to play the game!
9250 is a branch off series from the 9200 if memory serves. Neither are well supported these days, and they don't even appear in releases for some time.
Just to try to narrow it down again, 9200/9250s are having issues? The 9600 still has support from the latest Catalyst drivers (6.11), if anyone has something between the 9250 and the 9500 (but not the 9500 because it's supported too
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Just found this, trawling through some notes here. 6.11 doesn't mention the support, but the release notes here do. I would recommend trying this driver as it states it supports the FireStream products (9250 is a FireStream -- 9200 isn't! so it again seems to lack support, but it may be worth a shot, notably 9.6 is higher than 6.11, so there is probably some support in the middle for the 9200s).
So much for using the tool that they presented on the main page
It's annoying that the latest driver for my video card is from 2006
Also annoying as sam n max worked fine, so i hoped tomi would too.
Perhaps i should just biy a new card :P Any suggestions?
For one, I have Radeon HD 2600 XT, and it runs ToMI perfectly on a Graphics Quality 9 in 1280x1024. Actually, it still plays pretty much everything I throw at it, some graphic-intense games are only playable in 1024x768 though (Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena, for example). It's also not discontinued yet, meaning new drivers are still officially supporting this card.
It should also be cheap as dirt these days.
Someone here will hint you on what to buy if you're going for quality rather than cost, I'm sure.
That's the latest driver for the 9250, I'll have a poke around through their archives (if they still exist) to see if one exists for the 9250. I just found out I don't have a 9250 here anymore, and nobody nearby does, and if they do they're using it for basic 2D workstations things, rather than any form of gaming -- they're stated they were running "9.4 or something around that".
I would upgrade from the 9200 if you can/want.
-- You're right, I did forget to ask if people were using the 9250 Firestorm or the AGP 9250. If you are using the old card (we're talking 3+ years ago I believe, the big hint is it's AGP and not PCI) then you may not get it to even install, but I did have a 9000 Pro running Catalyst 8.somethings before, but I recall having to extract the drivers and mess with files to get that up and running.
In all seriousness I would look at a 7xxx or cheap 8xxx NVidia card. It seems to be largely driver related, but they seem to have less issues with the games I play over the Radeon (admittedly, again, this falls back to the 9800 Pro some time ago, but there is a more recent Radeon in the house -- in a Mac).
I'll put it out there for Will to consider: could the polygons be caused by the lack of throughput by the older Radeons? I remember the 9000 Pro would suffer considerably in FPS games because from the 8xxx -> 9xxx (below, say, 9700); the card would lag badly due to limited pipelines.
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ATi's archive seems to be too difficult to navigate without resorting to changing numbers in the URL by hand, so that idea's pretty much out
If i have to upgrade so be it. As for the card, something under $200 would be good. I'm not really into my hardcore pc 3D gaming - so as long as it plays TOMI and I could get one for under $100 that would be even better.
Lets face it, i had to upgrade back in 1997 to play CMI, and then again for escape.
My only fear is I get a new cheaper card, and my problem then escalates to some of the problems other people in this forum are facing where they get nothing! I think i should be okay though...
Quicktime is a little fussy since I made the switch, but I'm willing to put up with it in order to play Monkey Island!
Which version of the Omega drivers? I have this problem too (radeon 9200), but when i tried the omega drivers the game didn't start at all
Any chance you could tell is which drivers/ anything else you did. A lot of us really would love to be able to play without this problem asap.
It didn't make a difference for me. :P
New video card it is. If anyone has the 9200 and they can get something to work, please post it here with detail.
I bought Ati HD3650 now and everything works good. It 'll be interesting to know if anyone got it work with 9200 tho. Im sure that there is many frustrated people here who wants to play the game with current setup.