How about Gared X potato? Imagine the drama!
Potato: "I love you Gared"
Gared: "I love you too potato"
BUT THEN COTTER WALKS IN
Cotter: "P...potato!!! I THOUGHT WE HAD SOMETHING SPECIAL!!!"
I think the problem people have is less with the ~6 years gap and more about Talia's age. As in, if Talia was 20 and Gared was 26, nobody would complain. That's why people are okay with Mira/Morgryn even if the gap is wider; because Mira is on her late teens, not on her early teens like Talia.
I'm saying I understand, not that I agree. I don't ship Gared or Talia (or Sylvi) with anyone but I also don't think her being 14 is an issue in Westeros.
I don't know how someone can be okay with the Sansa/Littlefinger ship and not with Talia/Gared ship since Talia and Sansa are about the same age (at least on the books Sansa is 14).
Predictable, even considering all Mira/Morgrin Sansa/Littlefinger shippers and "ooh, but it's all cool just because good ol' times and ASOIAF" sort of folks out there. And i'd rather it stayed that way, though.
I thought of Talia and Ethan as 12-13, considering how Ethan is treated by the adult characters. They refer to him as a boy, so he is not close to 16, or they'd call him a man. Sylvi, I think is about the same age, maybe 13-14.
That's a great and valid point. I actually forgot about that.
That would make Talia 10-12 if Ethan is still considered a boy until 16, but girls are considered woman at first blood so Talia would be younger than 12 or right at the cusp of it, Ryon about 4-6, Sylvi would be 9-12, meaning Cotter is 15-17, same age as Gared most likely and Finn would maybe be 24 due to his size, voice and fact he looks older than anyone else we've seen (besides Asher and Rodrick)
I thought of Talia and Ethan as 12-13, considering how Ethan is treated by the adult characters. They refer to him as a boy, so he is not close to 16, or they'd call him a man. Sylvi, I think is about the same age, maybe 13-14.
I think the problem people have is less with the ~6 years gap and more about Talia's age. As in, if Talia was 20 and Gared was 26, nobody wo… moreuld complain. That's why people are okay with Mira/Morgryn even if the gap is wider; because Mira is on her late teens, not on her early teens like Talia.
I'm saying I understand, not that I agree. I don't ship Gared or Talia (or Sylvi) with anyone but I also don't think her being 14 is an issue in Westeros.
I don't know how someone can be okay with the Sansa/Littlefinger ship and not with Talia/Gared ship since Talia and Sansa are about the same age (at least on the books Sansa is 14).
Nobody talks about bloody weddings here, Talia won't marry a lowborn and the free folk don't marry much anyway.
Would Talia somehow have a… more premature crush on dad's pigfarmerborn potatofaced sqire anyway he won't come back or he will die as a deserter.
I don't have anything against Silvy/Gared, she isn't a fragile flower like, say, Sansa or Robb's Jeyne, Silvy is a spearwife, it won't be like an older dude takes advantage of her age and no shame for her in a bit of unwed cuddling. It's just really bad timing for cuddles and not much chemistry. And it's Telltale GoT with no tits or even treats of rape for 5 episodes, so Gared/Silvy is not happening.
How about Gared X potato? Imagine the drama!
Potato: "I love you Gared"
Gared: "I love you too potato"
BUT THEN COTTER WALKS IN
Cotter: "P...potato!!! I THOUGHT WE HAD SOMETHING SPECIAL!!!"
Claiming the first night is more of a Joff-ish thing to do (also can't remember this being a thing in Westeros), i've been thinking Ramsay would more likely marry Mom, claim their lands, kill her next day and then torture Talia or (after her last older brother's death) marry Talia and claim Forrester lands, like with lady Hornwood.
They do see them as women grown enough to marry and to have children after they flowered. Take a look at the Customs page of the Wiki for re… moreference. On Talia's case, her being so petite, a pregnancy could be really risky to her so that adds to the pile of reasons why she shouldn't marry so early, even if technically she could in Westeros. There are a few other problems with marrying her to a defector of the Night's Watch, like the political problem you pointed out, and also Ramsay might want to (illegally) claim the right to the first night.
It just seems to be the most popular justification that pedo/ephebophiles were medieval norm because forced economically-driven child marriages, so let the love flourish, guise, it ok.
Claiming the first night is more of a Joff-ish thing to do (also can't remember this being a thing in Westeros), i've been thinking Ramsay w… moreould more likely marry Mom, claim their lands, kill her next day and then torture Talia or (after her last older brother's death) marry Talia and claim Forrester lands, like with lady Hornwood.
Roose claimed the first night of the miller's wife (and killed the miller) and she got pregnant. That's where Ramsay came from.
It is illegal in Westeros, but then again so is flaying.
I think in the book Tyrion is really torn about his feelings for Sansa. That is, he's very attracted to her but feels that shouldn't be. Her feelings towards him are crystal clear. She hates all Lannisters for what they did to her family, and she's disgusted by his looks. I wish Sansa could see past the physical, but I totally understand why she'd resent Tyrion. Then again, Tyrion wasn't the one who did any of the horrible things to her family.
Gared works his ass off to try to satisfy her high-born tastes, can't manage it, and she ends up leaving him for a wealthier man? Do we know that Talia is a snob or is that a thing people are assuming just because she was born into a noble house?
That's a great and valid point. I actually forgot about that.
That would make Talia 10-12 if Ethan is still considered a boy until 16, bu… moret girls are considered woman at first blood so Talia would be younger than 12 or right at the cusp of it, Ryon about 4-6, Sylvi would be 9-12, meaning Cotter is 15-17, same age as Gared most likely and Finn would maybe be 24 due to his size, voice and fact he looks older than anyone else we've seen (besides Asher and Rodrick)
Gared works his ass off to try to satisfy her high-born tastes, can't manage it, and she ends up leaving him for a wealthier man? Do we know that Talia is a snob or is that a thing people are assuming just because she was born into a noble house?
Tyrion is still a Lannister and he never bets against his family. And he is in King's Landing, so Sansa's dreams of getting far away from Lannisters to the sunny and friendly Highgarden are ruined and she stays a hostage. And she might be afraid of giving a birth to a freak (and a Lannister) and maybe dying during childbirth (don't remember i she knows Tyrion's story). Sansa's tastes aren't the biggest problem here.
I think in the book Tyrion is really torn about his feelings for Sansa. That is, he's very attracted to her but feels that shouldn't be. Her… more feelings towards him are crystal clear. She hates all Lannisters for what they did to her family, and she's disgusted by his looks. I wish Sansa could see past the physical, but I totally understand why she'd resent Tyrion. Then again, Tyrion wasn't the one who did any of the horrible things to her family.
Did you read the books? Her disgust of his appearance is mentioned several times in her sections. Also, he's far less attractive in the books than Peter Dinklage. For one thing, he's far more disfigured in the books and has heterochromia...
Tyrion is still a Lannister and he never bets against his family. And he is in King's Landing, so Sansa's dreams of getting far away from La… morennisters to the sunny and friendly Highgarden are ruined and she stays a hostage. And she might be afraid of giving a birth to a freak (and a Lannister) and maybe dying during childbirth (don't remember i she knows Tyrion's story). Sansa's tastes aren't the biggest problem here.
Just how old do you think Gared is? He could be just out of his teens for all you know. His age range is 18-20. Talia is petite, but she' most likely in her mid-teens herself.
Just how old do you think Gared is? He could be just out of his teens for all you know. His age range is 18-20. Talia is petite, but she' most likely in her mid-teens herself.
Did you read the books? Her disgust of his appearance is mentioned several times in her sections. Also, he's far less attractive in the books than Peter Dinklage. For one thing, he's far more disfigured in the books and has heterochromia...
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I would ship this harder than I ship Rhysha lol. I would pay 5 bucks for a dlc telling us the adventures of Gared and his lover potato.
I think the problem people have is less with the ~6 years gap and more about Talia's age. As in, if Talia was 20 and Gared was 26, nobody would complain. That's why people are okay with Mira/Morgryn even if the gap is wider; because Mira is on her late teens, not on her early teens like Talia.
I'm saying I understand, not that I agree. I don't ship Gared or Talia (or Sylvi) with anyone but I also don't think her being 14 is an issue in Westeros.
I don't know how someone can be okay with the Sansa/Littlefinger ship and not with Talia/Gared ship since Talia and Sansa are about the same age (at least on the books Sansa is 14).
I thought of Talia and Ethan as 12-13, considering how Ethan is treated by the adult characters. They refer to him as a boy, so he is not close to 16, or they'd call him a man. Sylvi, I think is about the same age, maybe 13-14.
That's a great and valid point. I actually forgot about that.
That would make Talia 10-12 if Ethan is still considered a boy until 16, but girls are considered woman at first blood so Talia would be younger than 12 or right at the cusp of it, Ryon about 4-6, Sylvi would be 9-12, meaning Cotter is 15-17, same age as Gared most likely and Finn would maybe be 24 due to his size, voice and fact he looks older than anyone else we've seen (besides Asher and Rodrick)
Wait. There's a Sansa/Littlefinger ship?
Who said the x had to lead to an official marriage?
No,all the Potatoes belong to Cotter.
Claiming the first night is more of a Joff-ish thing to do (also can't remember this being a thing in Westeros), i've been thinking Ramsay would more likely marry Mom, claim their lands, kill her next day and then torture Talia or (after her last older brother's death) marry Talia and claim Forrester lands, like with lady Hornwood.
It just seems to be the most popular justification that pedo/ephebophiles were medieval norm because forced economically-driven child marriages, so let the love flourish, guise, it ok.
Roose claimed the first night of the miller's wife (and killed the miller) and she got pregnant. That's where Ramsay came from.
It is illegal in Westeros, but then again so is flaying.
Never saw it, I'm going by what TwentyGoodmen said.
Oh that, i thought it happened just because Roose wanted to punish them, not by right, my mistake.
But... It's Game of Thrones.
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gared x bacon
Sorry, Gared and Cotter, but Bacon x Potatoes is the bestest pairing ever
[NSFW, too hot]
I think in the book Tyrion is really torn about his feelings for Sansa. That is, he's very attracted to her but feels that shouldn't be. Her feelings towards him are crystal clear. She hates all Lannisters for what they did to her family, and she's disgusted by his looks. I wish Sansa could see past the physical, but I totally understand why she'd resent Tyrion. Then again, Tyrion wasn't the one who did any of the horrible things to her family.
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Gared works his ass off to try to satisfy her high-born tastes, can't manage it, and she ends up leaving him for a wealthier man? Do we know that Talia is a snob or is that a thing people are assuming just because she was born into a noble house?
Doesn't look like there's any onion on those home fries. 5/10, would eat but not be entirely satisfied.
Neither. Both Talia and Sylvi are like 12 wtf
Edit: Okay, maybe not 12, but they look young and isn't Gared like 25?
Ryon is confirmed to be 7, I believe in unused audio Sylvi is 13
Silvy is 13, Talia is 14-15, Gared is 18-21
They're just assuming.
I don't see the comparison either. It just makes more sense then Dany and Jorah to me.
Talia is demanding IMO, but she's more demanding of a person's character. Which can only be a good thing. She'd keep whoever she marries honest.
Tyrion is still a Lannister and he never bets against his family. And he is in King's Landing, so Sansa's dreams of getting far away from Lannisters to the sunny and friendly Highgarden are ruined and she stays a hostage. And she might be afraid of giving a birth to a freak (and a Lannister) and maybe dying during childbirth (don't remember i she knows Tyrion's story). Sansa's tastes aren't the biggest problem here.
Sylvi is just a child.
Welcome to Game of Thrones. Insert deal with it gif
Not in Game of Thrones.
Nah neither.
Did you read the books? Her disgust of his appearance is mentioned several times in her sections. Also, he's far less attractive in the books than Peter Dinklage. For one thing, he's far more disfigured in the books and has heterochromia...
Why do you have to be right tho?!
I mean Gwynn and Elena aren't half bad.. But they don't have the jon snow lions mane
why would be, it dosent count as a big deal in game of thrones universe
This is so fucked up, thats just wrong on so many levels, a kid dating an adult. No just no delete this god forsaken thread.
Just how old do you think Gared is? He could be just out of his teens for all you know. His age range is 18-20. Talia is petite, but she' most likely in her mid-teens herself.
Its still wrong on many levels, and 18 year old dating someone in mid teens? No just no, how dare you defend something as messed up as this.
Not saying it isn't a problem, but still if she could look past his ugliness, she would have too many reasons not to want him.
Yes.
She isn't considered a child in Game of Thrones uniiverse.
If you waited about ten years that would barely be considered an age gap.
Is it Cluke all over again?
This thread creeps me out, why do some people feel the need to defend a very young teenager dating a grown man?