Jane seems like an evil bitch. Even if she helped Clem and the others escape, she condemned Troy to a horrible death, and dealt an unimaginably painful blow first. No matter what a bastard Troy was, I'm not sure he deserved to have his genitals destroyed by a bullet in point blank range and be chewed to death by walkers, becoming one shortly after. Jane could have just shot him in the head if she wanted him dead so badly. Now Jane is going on to tell Clementine that everyone she's become close to will die and that she ought to just abandon them? Jane is reaching the point of no redemption.
I think you misunderstand what a psychopath is. You probably think all psychopaths are murderers, or do other such things. Psychopathy is just a mental disorder that is quite prevalent, and causes less empathy and the ability to feel less emotions, and the emotions you do feel are in big pangs. In fact a lot of psychopaths make great politicians, Lawyers, and Businessmen. A lot aren't killers that kill o n whim. In fact I probably do have a few psychopath friends.
The reason Troy was shot in the dick was a combination of needing a distraction to get some of the walkers away/not noticing them, and probably a bit of crazy.
Jane seems like an evil bitch. Even if she helped Clem and the others escape, she condemned Troy to a horrible death, and dealt an unimagina… morebly painful blow first. No matter what a bastard Troy was, I'm not sure he deserved to have his genitals destroyed by a bullet in point blank range and be chewed to death by walkers, becoming one shortly after. Jane could have just shot him in the head if she wanted him dead so badly. Now Jane is going on to tell Clementine that everyone she's become close to will die and that she ought to just abandon them? Jane is reaching the point of no redemption.
Very true that providing the walkers with a meal was an effective distraction, but you could tell by the way Jane deceived Troy before shooting him that she is bad news. She has a very devious and deceitful nature. Not traits that nurture survival with a group, hence her trying to tear Clementine apart from her friends.
The reason Troy was shot in the dick was a combination of needing a distraction to get some of the walkers away/not noticing them, and probably a bit of crazy.
Chuck said that Clementine would die IF Lee and his group continued on without preparing her for the future, which Lee did shortly after. Clementine will be fine as long as she stays lucky. The fact that she's even alive still is a miracle. We can only hope Clem lives at least a somewhat full life, as safely and happily as she can. Maybe the worst will soon be over for her. We can only hope...
The original group did fell apart, more than half of the members died. The only ones that are left are Clem, Kenny, and maybe Christa, so I don't really think that's a good example. Though I understand your point.
I thought the exact same thing.. And she didn't seem weird to me, just a bit of a 'I don't really wanna care about you because everyone dies' attitude.
Spoiler alert : everyone dies. Seriously though, Jane kind of reminds me of Molly. She likes to run around in the shadows, all ninja-like … moreand sneaky, and she even looks similar to Molly(with a different hair color and hair style). She also seems to enjoy being alone, like Molly. And no one seems to know much about her. Hey, maybe she's Molly. :D ....I can hope.
I think you misunderstand what a psychopath is. You probably think all psychopaths are murderers, or do other such things. Psychopathy is ju… morest a mental disorder that is quite prevalent, and causes less empathy and the ability to feel less emotions, and the emotions you do feel are in big pangs. In fact a lot of psychopaths make great politicians, Lawyers, and Businessmen. A lot aren't killers that kill o n whim. In fact I probably do have a few psychopath friends.
She will do what she has to do to survive, and has lost much of her humanity.
Also, this is undoubtedly some foreshadowing. I think you will be given a choice between doing something for your survival, or doing something for the benefit of the group that is risky.
I kind of like Jane. She's survived for this long, seemingly on her own (I'm sure she had a group at some point but they found her by herself). Smearing zombie guts on me is honestly how I would be walking around for the majority of the apocalypse. I also love how she manipulated Carver's guy so efficiently, she's obviously quick on her feet. I think she will really like Clem, or at least respect her, and take her under her wing. A different kind of role model, she's tougher than Luke, but also more clever and thinks things through better than Kenny. I'm interested to see how this all plays out. And I really hope we don't have to lose too many people again, although I'm not as attached to any of them as I was to Lee. (other then Clem, obviously)
I like Jane; in a setting like that, you can't blame her for putting survival above everything else. Well, at least I don't. But I also don't think Clem is the type to leave her friends behind to save her own ass. It's a matter of personality, I guess.
Also those teasers tend to be kind of inaccurate anyway.
I think Jane means that they couldn't live because they don't have the will to live. Sarah's state when Carlos got bitten, That pregnant woman state that she is pregnant and Alvin died and of course Kenny, in the teaser, I didn't see a glimpse of Sarita.. (I hope she lives)
Not sure if it's TellTale hint but it's a zombie apocalypse so it's not difficult to come to that conclusion..
Also our group consists of a pregnant lady, one eyed man and possibly a one armed lady. (Not to mention a child that has just lost her dad -not helped by her screaming and giving the group away- and doesn't know how to look after herself if we find her..) So Jane kinda has a point.. Luke, Jane, Bonnie and Mike are basically the stronger members of the group. Nick's alive in my save but he doesn't think before he acts and Kenny is clearly going insane -and with only one eye now.
I did hope we would see more of the 400 days characters / some of them would come with us but instead it was just small glimpse of each. =/
See? This is what I hate with this forum. An unpopular opinion and you've got youself 6 downvotes.
Personally I Think Jane, Bonnie, Luke and maybe even Kenny got what it takes to survive. Rebecca, Sarita and Sarah on the other hand..
Well she is kinda right. Nearly everyone in that group is completely useless. Alvin was useless, the pregnant women was useless, nick and sarah are not only useless but create way more trouble then their worth. Sarita is also useless. Luke and Kenny are not useless and sarahs dad isn't useless in very specific situations, but most of the group are just simply useless.
Um, you also forget about Glenn from the first episode of the first season by Telltale, as he is alive through the TV series
Glenn (fro… morem Telltale's The Walking Dead: Season One: Episode One: A New Day) http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Glenn_(Video_Game)
Glenn (from the TV Series) http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Glenn_Rhee_(TV_Series)
maybe because she has experience. the group clem was with befor feel apart, now thw gruo she is with now is falling apart. what jane said I going to happen already happened and is happening right now.
jane was probably wth multiple groups before but they all fell apart and she is trying to protect clem. maybe jane sees clem as a younger her so she is just guiding clem so she can survive.
although I could be wrong but I think I make a point. and honestly I trust jane, she may seem a little off at sometimes but she looks like she knows what she is doing. she is already doing to things clem already knew, 1)keeping her hair short and 2) the zombie gut thing.
and for all we know she could have been alone for a full 2 years, and that can change a person.
Very true that providing the walkers with a meal was an effective distraction, but you could tell by the way Jane deceived Troy before shoot… moreing him that she is bad news. She has a very devious and deceitful nature. Not traits that nurture survival with a group, hence her trying to tear Clementine apart from her friends.
Jane gives me the same vibe Molly did.
A survivor.
She will do what she has to do to survive, and has lost much of her humanity.
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Also, this is undoubtedly some foreshadowing. I think you will be given a choice between doing something for your survival, or doing something for the benefit of the group that is risky.
I kind of like Jane. She's survived for this long, seemingly on her own (I'm sure she had a group at some point but they found her by hersel… moref). Smearing zombie guts on me is honestly how I would be walking around for the majority of the apocalypse. I also love how she manipulated Carver's guy so efficiently, she's obviously quick on her feet. I think she will really like Clem, or at least respect her, and take her under her wing. A different kind of role model, she's tougher than Luke, but also more clever and thinks things through better than Kenny. I'm interested to see how this all plays out. And I really hope we don't have to lose too many people again, although I'm not as attached to any of them as I was to Lee. (other then Clem, obviously)
I like Jane; in a setting like that, you can't blame her for putting survival above everything else. Well, at least I don't. But I also don'… moret think Clem is the type to leave her friends behind to save her own ass. It's a matter of personality, I guess.
Also those teasers tend to be kind of inaccurate anyway.
I don't think she is weird. She is a survivor.
So... are you calling Lee "Weird" too? Because everyone says she is weird because of the guts thing... but Lee did it first.
No idea, but Jane seems a bit weird, don't trust anyone in this game really anymore, we don't even know what really happened about the cabin crew before they left carvers camp
Seeing as how TWD always goes, comics, TV series and games, I highly doubt more than 3 or 4 of our current survivors will make it to next season. My bet is Clem, Luke, Rebecca and Sarah will make it. Everyone else, including Rebecca's baby, will die.
I never decide in advance. I let the actions of people speak for themselves. Most of my actions are based on an equation of "my general idea of this person" + "this persons most recent action". You never know whats going to happen until you do, so I just the story unfold and make my actions as I go with it. I have to say I like Jane too and where her character arc is headed, but nothing's certain. My gut tells me her lone wolf type is just another way of saying "selfish bitch" and "traitor"... I guess it all depends on where I want to end up. I dont really play Clem as "Clem"; I'm imagining Clem being me and I make the deciscion based on what *I* would have done in the situations we're facing. I though Luke was really cool until he fucked up, got caught and suddenly began talking about leaving people (read: Kenny) behind. Kenny is an ass, but for all his faults, he is charming and rather likeable, and I can really understand his desire to act fast and hard. At the start of this episode, when we were all tied up in the van, I agreed with him on all points. I actually stayed behind when Kenny was beating the crap out of Bill just for "moral support". Can't say I regret that.
These days, a lot of people believe that anyone who isn't whiny, lazy, useless, self-defeating, or a drama whore is some sort of psychopath, whether the person meets the diagnostic criteria for Antisocial Personality Disorder or not. :P
The doctor was taking sexual advantage of Molly, so she paid him back as soon as she was able. Pity the doctor was unaware of her actions, but "c'est la mort" as my French cousins would say.
Jane was taking sexual advantage of Troy, yet she shoots him in the groin. If she did so to cause a distraction, then one round in the belly from 2 metres would have accomplished the same result for much less risk. I'm no expert, however shooting him in the groin indicates a revenge motive, yes? Perhaps Troy's technique was closer to rape than sex? Jane's final conversation with Troy was one final ploy to get close enough for her little revenge
Lol when I first saw "Jane" I was almost positive that she was Molly. Hell after the episode ended...I'm still not completely sure that it i… moresn't her.
They look incredibly familiar and have similar back-stories as well. "Distant loner with possible psychotic tendencies" sums it up rather nicely.
Anybody else think the scene with Troy and "Jane" was eerily similar to that scene with Molly and that doctor from Crawford?
Well she's one of those who believes what they say is the right thing. It's actually not very good advice. Think of all of the time Clementine could have died if it weren't for other people.
I don't think she believes that being an asshole is a good thing, she probably learned from experience that most groups tend to fall apart (in the ZA). She probably recognizes herself in Clem, that's why I think she gives her this advice.
Isn't it ironic how in Episode 3 of Season 1, the homeless guy tells Clem will never make it and everyone will eventually die... Please tell me I wasn't the only one who noticied this
Um, you also forget about Glenn from the first episode of the first season by Telltale, as he is alive through the TV series
Glenn (fro… morem Telltale's The Walking Dead: Season One: Episode One: A New Day) http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Glenn_(Video_Game)
Glenn (from the TV Series) http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Glenn_Rhee_(TV_Series)
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Luke- Ice cream
Kenny- Pizza
Hot Wings- Christa
Glenn (from Telltale's The Walking Dead: Season One: Episode One: A New Day) http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Glenn_(Video_Game)
Glenn (from the TV Series) http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Glenn_Rhee_(TV_Series)
If you think you're their "friend", you don't.
A survivor.
She will do what she has to do to survive, and has lost much of her humanity.
Also, this is undoubtedly some foreshadowing. I think you will be given a choice between doing something for your survival, or doing something for the benefit of the group that is risky.
She'd abandon Clem if she needed to in order to save herself.
They look incredibly familiar and have similar back-stories as well. "Distant loner with possible psychotic tendencies" sums it up rather nicely.
Anybody else think the scene with Troy and "Jane" was eerily similar to that scene with Molly and that doctor from Crawford?
Also those teasers tend to be kind of inaccurate anyway.
Also our group consists of a pregnant lady, one eyed man and possibly a one armed lady. (Not to mention a child that has just lost her dad -not helped by her screaming and giving the group away- and doesn't know how to look after herself if we find her..) So Jane kinda has a point.. Luke, Jane, Bonnie and Mike are basically the stronger members of the group. Nick's alive in my save but he doesn't think before he acts and Kenny is clearly going insane -and with only one eye now.
I did hope we would see more of the 400 days characters / some of them would come with us but instead it was just small glimpse of each. =/
jane was probably wth multiple groups before but they all fell apart and she is trying to protect clem. maybe jane sees clem as a younger her so she is just guiding clem so she can survive.
although I could be wrong but I think I make a point. and honestly I trust jane, she may seem a little off at sometimes but she looks like she knows what she is doing. she is already doing to things clem already knew, 1)keeping her hair short and 2) the zombie gut thing.
and for all we know she could have been alone for a full 2 years, and that can change a person.
maybe tis means we will get the episode faster.
So... are you calling Lee "Weird" too? Because everyone says she is weird because of the guts thing... but Lee did it first.
Jane was taking sexual advantage of Troy, yet she shoots him in the groin. If she did so to cause a distraction, then one round in the belly from 2 metres would have accomplished the same result for much less risk. I'm no expert, however shooting him in the groin indicates a revenge motive, yes? Perhaps Troy's technique was closer to rape than sex? Jane's final conversation with Troy was one final ploy to get close enough for her little revenge
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