I agree. The complaining is fine but I find it a lot now. So much hype and people are disappointed. I don't see why people buy the game if they don't like it or complain about a bunch of things. It was a quality episode for me 9/10. Sure it has its flaws but I don't usually complain and I'm a pessimistic person who doesn't like a LOT of things, but this is amazing. I know you, me, and others who support this opinion are disagreed with, and its fine with me. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I think calling them out is only contributing to this pointless banter. I have said my opinion about this and I'm not going to again... Unless it continues. So farewell for now and good day.
To me there's only one tiny problem they should have polished. NICK.
Either He was just there, in the background and said total 12 lines, or he was dead and no one reacted one tiniest bit. Not even Luke! That was my biggest problem.
Im okay mostly if he gets those 12 lines, but in my canon, he fucking died, and it feels like Nick mostly fell through time crack from Doctor Who and was erased from existence. I that lazy.
We could of course speculate that either Luke saw Walker Nick and shot it, or somebody told him earlier and he got over it fast. But i think some one could have said SOMETHING, He still was an DETERMINANT character, give me some consequences TT, or... be "lazy"
This.
I agree with most of it..nick is potential character
Although im a bit skeptical ep4 will be great,
if they use the same writing formula which is laziness
S2 has a lot more character compare to s1
(s1 survivor, s2 new group, 400 days guys) Which means
that Alot of character background and development needs to be explored
And they couldnt do that or flat out didnt want to
That imo is either laziness or incompetence
If i say TT is "lazy"
To me there's only one tiny problem they should have polished. NICK.
Either He was just there, in the backgr… moreound and said total 12 lines, or he was dead and no one reacted one tiniest bit. Not even Luke! That was my biggest problem.
Im okay mostly if he gets those 12 lines, but in my canon, he fucking died, and it feels like Nick mostly fell through time crack from Doctor Who and was erased from existence. I that lazy.
We could of course speculate that either Luke saw Walker Nick and shot it, or somebody told him earlier and he got over it fast. But i think some one could have said SOMETHING, He still was an DETERMINANT character, give me some consequences TT, or... be "lazy"
They still can fix this in Ep4, lets hope!
Well I for one think that many complaints are valid this time around. After the first episode of S2 came out, I defended Telltale's choices in the story; they may not have been going in the direction people wanted, but like you said, it's Telltale's story. But now it's like they are not even following through with the story they have been building, so many things are out of place or don't make sense. In episode 2 things started to get weird- Carlos and Rebecca changed their minds about Clem for no reason, not enough interaction/characterization with the cabin group, the group suddenly trusted her completely, almost everyone reacted the same to her no matter how they were treated by Clem in the past- wasn't Sarah showing Clem the gun the only substantial difference depending on how you treated her in the past? No one else even got a line variation.
I forgave these things though because I thought ep2 was amazing anyway, and I trusted that Telltale would address the problems in future episodes. But that didn't happen. Instead episode 3 drops even more from the previous episodes.
The complaints have a solid basis this time around that can be pointed out; it's not just "Meh, I just liked S1 better." As much as you love Kenny you have to realize that ep3's strong focus on him derailed other character's growth and potential, they never had their moments to shine and many people still do not have a strong opinion on the cast one way or another. I haven't seen the "luke is wasted potential" thread, but you have to admit that his return seems underwhelming, especially in light of Carver's statement about him in the last episode and all the debate that rose from that among the fans. But nothing ever came of it, no one was proven wrong or right about him, there was no new developments, insight, or twists that rise from the situation. Instead it's "oops he got caught!" then suddenly Carver's wrath is on Kenny. So it makes the whole "where is Luke" thing feel pretty pointless when it had previously been a huge deal.
I don't want to believe Telltale is just being lazy now, but I can see why many people are drawing that conclusion when things that have been deliberately built up are just dropped for no reason.
You're not alone it's been bugging me too. I keep seeing the same posts over and over again and it's too much. I find there's too much hate in these threads right now.
1. The Luke threads are all hating on how his character is being wasted and how useless he is (which he isn't -_-)
2. The Kenny posts (some) say that he's overshadowing all the other S2 characters because we've known him longer and he's been a fan favourite (love Kenny too don't get me wrong)
3. The short episode complaints are only because we've been waiting for what seems like forever to play the next exciting episode. The trouble is people are having so much fun playing it when it comes out and it goes by so fast that we think it's short (especially compared to the wait for the next episode.)
I understand a few of these threads but why so so many? Kind of getting old fast.
You're not alone it's been bugging me too. I keep seeing the same posts over and over again and it's too much. I find there's too much hate … morein these threads right now.
1. The Luke threads are all hating on how his character is being wasted and how useless he is (which he isn't -_-)
2. The Kenny posts (some) say that he's overshadowing all the other S2 characters because we've known him longer and he's been a fan favourite (love Kenny too don't get me wrong)
3. The short episode complaints are only because we've been waiting for what seems like forever to play the next exciting episode. The trouble is people are having so much fun playing it when it comes out and it goes by so fast that we think it's short (especially compared to the wait for the next episode.)
I understand a few of these threads but why so so many? Kind of getting old fast.
Their not lazy they just got to much things on their hands and so they should calm down and finish what they started(Season 2 and TWAU) and then continue to work on Borderlands and GoT.
Although it's ok to criticize some of their actual flaws besides the story (such as awkward model movement in a few scenes and reusing Clem's sewing scene audio when they could have just recorded some new audio, and Sarita's scream at the end not even being her voice actor's scream, it's actually from a girl in episode three of season one), but yeah, telltale deserves a break. Everyone is giving them a hard time right now but as long as Nick Breckon writes the next one, the distaste will probably level down a little bit.
Their not lazy they just got to much things on their hands and so they should calm down and finish what they started(Season 2 and TWAU) and then continue to work on Borderlands and GoT.
What you have to understand is that the majority of people on these forums range from young to incredibly young. This sort of complaining (whining) just comes from immaturity. Go to forums for other games that seem to attract a very young audience and you'll see the same thing. And yes, there are older people who enjoy this game too but on the forums, they are in the minority.
The new writer is absolutely terrible and caused many problems for this episode. I hope he is replaced next episode. He clearly was only briefed on the previous episodes and never actually played them.
This is why they should sign writers into CONTRACTS so they don't leave mid season. Retarded.
The new writer is absolutely terrible and caused many problems for this episode. I hope he is replaced next episode. He clearly was only bri… moreefed on the previous episodes and never actually played them.
This is why they should sign writers into CONTRACTS so they don't leave mid season. Retarded.
The writers of TWDG have specifically said in interviews that they have changed the writing as a result of player reaction (ie the Larry choice) and that was their intention. People who are voicing their opinion are trying to tell the writers what is and isn't working, that is the whole point of the episodic model, so we can have our voices heard and change the series for the better in small but significant ways.
TT just have too many characters and they just keep adding them.
In S1 they kept good balanced how many character were and there was time to get knowing them.
S2 we have, Nick, Alvin, Carlos, Sarita, Sarah and Carver. They all should have more screen time and we should have get to knowing them better. And they either got killed or get Nicks fate and were forgotten.
This.
I agree with most of it..nick is potential character
Although im a bit skeptical ep4 will be great,
if they use the same writin… moreg formula which is laziness
S2 has a lot more character compare to s1
(s1 survivor, s2 new group, 400 days guys) Which means
that Alot of character background and development needs to be explored
And they couldnt do that or flat out didnt want to
That imo is either laziness or incompetence
Yes I really hate when people complain about Luke for the same reasons and others. He really is a good character and he's great to Clem. I know it's their own opinion but he really hasn't done anything that bad. He's done more good than bad imo so shouldn't that be enough?
I hate when people complain about luke
-he could have easily left, instead he doesnt sleep or eat and risks his life finding the group
- he admits to his mistakes
-and come on, its hard now to find a really nice character
Oh, I'm sure that they do take players' opinions into account. The players are the customers after all. However, that is not THE WHOLE POINT of episodic gaming as was claimed in the post I responded to.
The writers of TWDG have specifically said in interviews that they have changed the writing as a result of player reaction (ie the Larry cho… moreice) and that was their intention. People who are voicing their opinion are trying to tell the writers what is and isn't working, that is the whole point of the episodic model, so we can have our voices heard and change the series for the better in small but significant ways.
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To me there's only one tiny problem they should have polished. NICK.
Either He was just there, in the background and said total 12 lines, or he was dead and no one reacted one tiniest bit. Not even Luke! That was my biggest problem.
Im okay mostly if he gets those 12 lines, but in my canon, he fucking died, and it feels like Nick mostly fell through time crack from Doctor Who and was erased from existence. I that lazy.
We could of course speculate that either Luke saw Walker Nick and shot it, or somebody told him earlier and he got over it fast. But i think some one could have said SOMETHING, He still was an DETERMINANT character, give me some consequences TT, or... be "lazy"
They still can fix this in Ep4, lets hope!
I agree with most of it..nick is potential character
Although im a bit skeptical ep4 will be great,
if they use the same writing formula which is laziness
S2 has a lot more character compare to s1
(s1 survivor, s2 new group, 400 days guys) Which means
that Alot of character background and development needs to be explored
And they couldnt do that or flat out didnt want to
That imo is either laziness or incompetence
I forgave these things though because I thought ep2 was amazing anyway, and I trusted that Telltale would address the problems in future episodes. But that didn't happen. Instead episode 3 drops even more from the previous episodes.
The complaints have a solid basis this time around that can be pointed out; it's not just "Meh, I just liked S1 better." As much as you love Kenny you have to realize that ep3's strong focus on him derailed other character's growth and potential, they never had their moments to shine and many people still do not have a strong opinion on the cast one way or another. I haven't seen the "luke is wasted potential" thread, but you have to admit that his return seems underwhelming, especially in light of Carver's statement about him in the last episode and all the debate that rose from that among the fans. But nothing ever came of it, no one was proven wrong or right about him, there was no new developments, insight, or twists that rise from the situation. Instead it's "oops he got caught!" then suddenly Carver's wrath is on Kenny. So it makes the whole "where is Luke" thing feel pretty pointless when it had previously been a huge deal.
I don't want to believe Telltale is just being lazy now, but I can see why many people are drawing that conclusion when things that have been deliberately built up are just dropped for no reason.
1. The Luke threads are all hating on how his character is being wasted and how useless he is (which he isn't -_-)
2. The Kenny posts (some) say that he's overshadowing all the other S2 characters because we've known him longer and he's been a fan favourite (love Kenny too don't get me wrong)
3. The short episode complaints are only because we've been waiting for what seems like forever to play the next exciting episode. The trouble is people are having so much fun playing it when it comes out and it goes by so fast that we think it's short (especially compared to the wait for the next episode.)
I understand a few of these threads but why so so many? Kind of getting old fast.
Because they don't listen.
Apologists will be the death of this series.
This is why they should sign writers into CONTRACTS so they don't leave mid season. Retarded.
In S1 they kept good balanced how many character were and there was time to get knowing them.
S2 we have, Nick, Alvin, Carlos, Sarita, Sarah and Carver. They all should have more screen time and we should have get to knowing them better. And they either got killed or get Nicks fate and were forgotten.
Mind you I loved the last episode. But seriously people can give their opinions.