Maybe she's suggesting that Clem should leave with her alone and leave everybody else at the camp cause 'their all gonna die'
Idk, just something I thought of.
First, let me just say what's actually relevant to the thread. Firstly, if it turns out to be a prophetic kind of thing, then it's not really a subtle hint. Aside from that, I don't think TellTale would just spell things out like that. As for what I think of it, I think there's more to it than just "Come on, let's just leave these assholes behind!" There is a logic to it, especially since a lot of people have talked at length about what a bunch of losers the cabin group are. It's just funny how people have suddenly gotten really defensive of them, but hey, that's a good thing. It means we've really warmed up to them. So basically, there's nothing to really say about it yet since we don't know the context, and we'll have to wait.
Okay, now that that's out of the way, time for a little spiel...
You know, I hate to pull the gender card, but I'm willing to bet every fucking cent that I have that if Jane was a male character you wouldn't see even half of this "omg, they're so evil, they're clearly going to leave Clem behind (even though Jane helped the group to escape when she could have left them behind and nobody has any real reason to think she'd abandon us just yet), I don't trust them!" Rather, the act of leaving Troy to get eaten alive would be widely acknowledged as a badass moment (which it was for me, anyway, because fuck Troy) and the character himself would be called a badass dark hero with the willingness to do what needs to be done. Case in point... good ol' Nate, an interesting character who does horrible things like Jane, is (to be fair) reviled sometimes, and then held up as a friggin' god the rest of the time.
Now I'm seeing the reverse for Jane. Now, to be fair (again, because I'm nice like that), I'm only basing this off of this thread and a select few other posts, and I'm in no way saying my word is law. I am, however, saying that this is an extremely common thing and I can't help but feel if this is another example. I guess what annoys me so much is that I constantly see all this stuff about being tough, losing your good nature, being a survivor and all that other stuff within this fandom, going as far as to justify leaving an innocent to get eaten alive if they must. But now it's a horrible thing? Why? Because the dude lost his nuts in the process? Don't get me wrong, it is a horrible thing, even if the douche deserved it, but it's interesting how the justifications have just stopped.
Yeah, yeah, it's not everybody who says this stuff, I know, but it's still very common and a general theme in the subject matter. Now Jane comes along, who, like Molly, Lilly, and Christa before her, gets shit on because she doesn't kowtow to the players often enough and is fully independent (and no, this was going on for Lilly even before she shot Carley/Doug). Meanwhile, male asshole characters who are meant to be seen as the villains are fan favorites. I'm beginning to think there's something to the idea that Carley was so loved because she never gave Lee a hard time, and thus didn't challenge the male players on anything.
And I think that'll wrap my end up on this subject. Can you tell I like to hear the sound of typing on a keyboard?
First, let me just say what's actually relevant to the thread. Firstly, if it turns out to be a prophetic kind of thing, then it's not reall… morey a subtle hint. Aside from that, I don't think TellTale would just spell things out like that. As for what I think of it, I think there's more to it than just "Come on, let's just leave these assholes behind!" There is a logic to it, especially since a lot of people have talked at length about what a bunch of losers the cabin group are. It's just funny how people have suddenly gotten really defensive of them, but hey, that's a good thing. It means we've really warmed up to them. So basically, there's nothing to really say about it yet since we don't know the context, and we'll have to wait.
Okay, now that that's out of the way, time for a little spiel...
You know, I hate to pull the gender card, but I'm willing to bet every fucking cent that I have that if Jane was a male character you wouldn't see… [view original content]
Jane is an awesome character. She reminds me of Carol. When she shot Troy in the nuts all I was thinking was '' It's okay Troy, just look at the flowers,'' (Boom!!!)
Spoiler alert : everyone dies. Seriously though, Jane kind of reminds me of Molly. She likes to run around in the shadows, all ninja-like … moreand sneaky, and she even looks similar to Molly(with a different hair color and hair style). She also seems to enjoy being alone, like Molly. And no one seems to know much about her. Hey, maybe she's Molly. :D ....I can hope.
Clem is resourceful and tough, but I think she is safest/ in the best state when in a group. I've wondered about it too... Whether Clem would be better off on her own. Maybe in a few years, but definitely not now.
The ZA is all about survival of the fittest and whatnot, but it would be such a lonely world if you chose to go your own way. Your whole life would be so empty. For someone as young as Clem, it would definitely get to her.
When the question arises of abandoning the 'weaklings', honestly I don't think we will get to a point where we can leave them behind. They'll probably die off before such a decision would ever have to be made. By the end of the season I see the group being whittled down to the 'strongest' (Clem, Kenny, Jane, perhaps Luke) and the 400 days cast.
Jane is an awesome character. She reminds me of Carol. When she shot Troy in the nuts all I was thinking was '' It's okay Troy, just look at the flowers,'' (Boom!!!)
She's so clever. At the point she reveals this info, her only way out was collaborating with our group. And after Troy's been, uh, taken care of, she does her own thing.
It remains to be seen if she IS an asshole, but I don't like her all this much right now..
Jane is indeed ruthless but she's not an asshole,why would she bother explained about the walker guts stuff? when she could've just slipped out alone using the same trick while Clem's group just shoot their way out and will create a diversion for her
She's clever,and she has faith on Clementine,so I really doubt she'll just ditch her in a bad situation without a strong reason.Even in the preview you can see them gonna work together,so we should just wait and see how the story turns out before drawing any conclusion.
She's so clever. At the point she reveals this info, her only way out was collaborating with our group. And after Troy's been, uh, taken car… moree of, she does her own thing.
It remains to be seen if she IS an asshole, but I don't like her all this much right now..
I still don't think it's safe to be near someone with that kind of attitude. Jane's obviously a shell of who she once was, and anything beyond the necessity of survival has clearly become incomprehensible to her.
Jane FTW. And they all really gonna die, I didn't like this group from the day i met them. Luke is the only one who can take care of himself but he's too weak emotionally. So, He's either to toughen up emotionally, Or He'll end up dead like them.
I agree with what some other have mentioned that "They're all going to die, Clementine. Don't let them pull you down with them.", if meant to be foreshadowing, is a little too straight-forward. TTG actually does a pretty good job with their subtle foreshadowing, in my opinion.
Jane reminds me of a twisted version of Michonne. She's badass, she's smart, she can take care of herself, and she knows that other people will just slow her down/get her killed. I think that Jane, like Michonne, eventually realized that she DOES need people to survive. (Maybe this was why she was creeping around Carver's camp?) But unlike Michonne, who grew to love everyone in her group and put her life on the line for any one of them, Jane still thinks that people will pull her down, so she'll only join with people that she deems worthy. My guess is Clem is one of these people, and Jane sees the rest of the group as liabilities, so she wants to ditch them fast.
I think Jane will try to make Clem think the same way - if Clem continues with her current group, she's gonna get killed. If she goes with Jane alone, she'll survive.
See? This is what I hate with this forum. An unpopular opinion and you've got youself 6 downvotes.
Personally I Think Jane, Bonnie, Luke and maybe even Kenny got what it takes to survive. Rebecca, Sarita and Sarah on the other hand..
Seeing as how TWD always goes, comics, TV series and games, I highly doubt more than 3 or 4 of our current survivors will make it to next season. My bet is Clem, Luke, Rebecca and Sarah will make it. Everyone else, including Rebecca's baby, will die.
I don't really know what to say about her, we don't know much about her other than she's smart and a badass... We'll get to know her better in episode 4 though.
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Maybe she's suggesting that Clem should leave with her alone and leave everybody else at the camp cause 'their all gonna die'
Idk, just something I thought of.
First, let me just say what's actually relevant to the thread. Firstly, if it turns out to be a prophetic kind of thing, then it's not really a subtle hint. Aside from that, I don't think TellTale would just spell things out like that. As for what I think of it, I think there's more to it than just "Come on, let's just leave these assholes behind!" There is a logic to it, especially since a lot of people have talked at length about what a bunch of losers the cabin group are. It's just funny how people have suddenly gotten really defensive of them, but hey, that's a good thing. It means we've really warmed up to them. So basically, there's nothing to really say about it yet since we don't know the context, and we'll have to wait.
Okay, now that that's out of the way, time for a little spiel...
You know, I hate to pull the gender card, but I'm willing to bet every fucking cent that I have that if Jane was a male character you wouldn't see even half of this "omg, they're so evil, they're clearly going to leave Clem behind (even though Jane helped the group to escape when she could have left them behind and nobody has any real reason to think she'd abandon us just yet), I don't trust them!" Rather, the act of leaving Troy to get eaten alive would be widely acknowledged as a badass moment (which it was for me, anyway, because fuck Troy) and the character himself would be called a badass dark hero with the willingness to do what needs to be done. Case in point... good ol' Nate, an interesting character who does horrible things like Jane, is (to be fair) reviled sometimes, and then held up as a friggin' god the rest of the time.
Now I'm seeing the reverse for Jane. Now, to be fair (again, because I'm nice like that), I'm only basing this off of this thread and a select few other posts, and I'm in no way saying my word is law. I am, however, saying that this is an extremely common thing and I can't help but feel if this is another example. I guess what annoys me so much is that I constantly see all this stuff about being tough, losing your good nature, being a survivor and all that other stuff within this fandom, going as far as to justify leaving an innocent to get eaten alive if they must. But now it's a horrible thing? Why? Because the dude lost his nuts in the process? Don't get me wrong, it is a horrible thing, even if the douche deserved it, but it's interesting how the justifications have just stopped.
Yeah, yeah, it's not everybody who says this stuff, I know, but it's still very common and a general theme in the subject matter. Now Jane comes along, who, like Molly, Lilly, and Christa before her, gets shit on because she doesn't kowtow to the players often enough and is fully independent (and no, this was going on for Lilly even before she shot Carley/Doug). Meanwhile, male asshole characters who are meant to be seen as the villains are fan favorites. I'm beginning to think there's something to the idea that Carley was so loved because she never gave Lee a hard time, and thus didn't challenge the male players on anything.
And I think that'll wrap my end up on this subject. Can you tell I like to hear the sound of typing on a keyboard?
Totally this! I even think Jane said that as a friendly reminder,not as a suggestion to leave and become a selfish psychopath
Are we going to have a Vernon situation cuz she seems like wanted to take her away
Jane is an awesome character. She reminds me of Carol. When she shot Troy in the nuts all I was thinking was '' It's okay Troy, just look at the flowers,'' (Boom!!!)
I think everyone's a bit of a psychopath in the zombie apocalypse.
Idk, they do have different faces. I don't know, what do you guys think?
Clem is resourceful and tough, but I think she is safest/ in the best state when in a group. I've wondered about it too... Whether Clem would be better off on her own. Maybe in a few years, but definitely not now.
The ZA is all about survival of the fittest and whatnot, but it would be such a lonely world if you chose to go your own way. Your whole life would be so empty. For someone as young as Clem, it would definitely get to her.
When the question arises of abandoning the 'weaklings', honestly I don't think we will get to a point where we can leave them behind. They'll probably die off before such a decision would ever have to be made. By the end of the season I see the group being whittled down to the 'strongest' (Clem, Kenny, Jane, perhaps Luke) and the 400 days cast.
That episode is so sad
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yes it was sad, but great acting too. They did a great job
Touche.
If the stranger didn't come along to fuck their shit up, he would have been fine, though :P
She's so clever. At the point she reveals this info, her only way out was collaborating with our group. And after Troy's been, uh, taken care of, she does her own thing.
It remains to be seen if she IS an asshole, but I don't like her all this much right now..
And molly, kinda
She's clever,and she has faith on Clementine,so I really doubt she'll just ditch her in a bad situation without a strong reason.Even in the preview you can see them gonna work together,so we should just wait and see how the story turns out before drawing any conclusion.
I ain't trustin' no Jane ma ass!
"Ben no offense but have you lost your motherfucking mind ?"
I still don't think it's safe to be near someone with that kind of attitude. Jane's obviously a shell of who she once was, and anything beyond the necessity of survival has clearly become incomprehensible to her.
Jane is really awesome, but I`m not able to leave my friends behind just because Jane says this.
Jane FTW. And they all really gonna die, I didn't like this group from the day i met them. Luke is the only one who can take care of himself but he's too weak emotionally. So, He's either to toughen up emotionally, Or He'll end up dead like them.
I agree with what some other have mentioned that "They're all going to die, Clementine. Don't let them pull you down with them.", if meant to be foreshadowing, is a little too straight-forward. TTG actually does a pretty good job with their subtle foreshadowing, in my opinion.
Jane reminds me of a twisted version of Michonne. She's badass, she's smart, she can take care of herself, and she knows that other people will just slow her down/get her killed. I think that Jane, like Michonne, eventually realized that she DOES need people to survive. (Maybe this was why she was creeping around Carver's camp?) But unlike Michonne, who grew to love everyone in her group and put her life on the line for any one of them, Jane still thinks that people will pull her down, so she'll only join with people that she deems worthy. My guess is Clem is one of these people, and Jane sees the rest of the group as liabilities, so she wants to ditch them fast.
I think Jane will try to make Clem think the same way - if Clem continues with her current group, she's gonna get killed. If she goes with Jane alone, she'll survive.
Wouldn't it be sweet irony if JANE was the only one who ended up dying in the next episode?
That'd be something
Maybe not even Luke if he remains as ill/tired as he was in Episode 3.
I really don't care what she thinks.
I'm staying with the group.
Gotta trust the beard. IT'S RULE FOR ME. XD
Kenny lived through a season, so why not him too?
I ain't trustin' no beard. But I am trustin' the stache
I don't really know what to say about her, we don't know much about her other than she's smart and a badass... We'll get to know her better in episode 4 though.
Don't trust the beard? ;-; That's okay, the stache is still awesome.
I quite like Jane. I would consider leaving with her if she asked me. Just because I need some character development I'm not getting this season.