It was right for Kenny to kill Carver, especially after the beaten he put on him. I do find it funny that everyone thinks it was too "Brutal… more". The guy was dead by the 2nd or 3rd hit. If anything Kenny took it too easy on him. You want brutal? Tie him to a chair for few hours and torture the shit outta him. If anyone deserves that, it's Carter.
* That doesn't mean that they deserve to die. Nobody deserves to die, because death is the end of life, and taking life away is pretty bad t… moreo me. That person can no longer live anymore, just because they were themselves. Sure they're bad people, but that doesn't mean that death is the answer to all you're problems. Death is absolute, and after someone is dead, they aren't coming back. They are still human, and killing them makes you like them. You could say you killed him to stop the killing, but that still only adds on to the killing. There has to be a more diplomatic, and peaceful way of solving the problem, instead of just killing the person and being done with it.
Most of the people on this thread have said he deserved it, and that he does need to die. You're points are right, but you guys are taking killing a bit too easily. IE
Troy hits Clem in the face. Everyone wants him dead.
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And as far as wanting everyone who's ever sinned against the group my character is in, dead, that does not apply to me.
And quite frankly, lumping me in that category is unfair.
So allow me to explain my position.
When Lilly killed Carly, I found that leaving on the side of the road was punishment enough.
I showed that I did not approve of what she did, and left her to fend for herself.
Whether or not if she lived or died, her fate was in her own hands from that point on.
Not mine.
When Vernon stole the boat, I wanted him punished for it.
But realizing that there probably would not be enough time to get Clementine back, and catch up to Vernon, who could've been anywhere by the time Kenny and I found the boat gone, I let it go and opted to head out into the countryside.
When Bonnie betrayed the group, I knew that I wouldn't be so quick to trust her in episode 3.
Which is reasonable.
But I did not want her dead.
If she murdered a member of the group, then it would be a different story, but alas she did not.
As far as Troy goes, I wanted Kenny to beat the crap out of him for hurting Clementine.
Violence against children is wrong.
And whoever beats on a child, that person deserves to get their ass whipped.
And like I said before, Carver was to dangerous to be kept alive.
And I did not find anything redeemable about him.
And since he showed no remorse, nor repentance for the things he did, I saw no basis to forgive him.
I am aware. I didn't say you're viewpoint was invalid. We both have our own opinions, and obviously mine is the unpopular one.
I love when I post unpopular opinions, and get down votes, and the person I'm countering has the same amount except in up votes! I guess I'll always be in the minority... I was more or less just stating my own viewpoint as well.
Just to clarify I'm not saying I believe Kenny lacks his humanity. Just making a comparison between Carvers ruthlessness and Kenny's questionable slipping state of mind. I love Kenny, and I don't want to see him lose his humanity.
If Kenny didn't have " a shred of humanity left in him," he wouldn't have taken the rap for that walkie-talkie.
And subsequently the horren… moredous beating that followed.
Kenny still has his humanity.
If he didn't, he wouldn't have gone to such great lengths to protect Clementine, as he has.
Nor would he have tried to rescue the group back at the lodge in episode 2.
These are things that Carver would never have done.
And don't even get me started about Troy!
Neither man had any decency in them.
I liked that you mentioned the fact that Kenny didn't make anyone watch.
In fact, when speaking to Clementine, Kenny urged her to not watch.
Whether or not Clementine watched, was all up to the individual player.
The player bares the responsibility for whatever decision they made.
If Kenny had not killed Carver, he would come back to capture the group once again.
Now, about Kenny killing him in a too brutal way, it … morewas a personal thing, Carver had blinded Kenny's left eye for fuck's sake, and Kenny didn't forced anyone to watch.
So yeah, I don't think it was wrong at all
Just to clarify I'm not saying I believe Kenny lacks his humanity. Just making a comparison between Carvers ruthlessness and Kenny's questionable slipping state of mind. I love Kenny, and I don't want to see him lose his humanity.
I am aware. I didn't say you're viewpoint was invalid. We both have our own opinions, and obviously mine is the unpopular one.
I love whe… moren I post unpopular opinions, and get down votes, and the person I'm countering has the same amount except in up votes! I guess I'll always be in the minority... I was more or less just stating my own viewpoint as well.
Blades, take my upvote for taking a stand for your morals, unpopular though your opinion may be. I myself disagree, and wanted to kill Carver (though not in as brutal a way as Kenny did) to ensure that he couldn't continue to take the lives of others. But I can understand not wanting to kill him. Killing is serious business, as you said, and not to be done lightly to even the worst of people given exactly how much you're taking away from them.
Alright Porky .
In this case I'm calling him William, because that's his first name.
For me killing is bad no matter what. No matter h… moreow necessary, I would try to avoid killing. William is human like you and me, he's not a monster, he's a mortal human. We make mistakes, we... Stray from the path, but that doesn't mean we end it. Life is a precious thing, and taking it away from somebody is horrible. We don't know what lies beyond death, so we must cherish life as it lasts. No matter how bad a person is, killing isn't right.
I will always forgive him, because forgiveness is a good thing. I would hate not to be forgiven. We don't know the full story of what happened to William. He could be mentally challenged, a complete psycho, something may have happened to him as a kid, a traumatizing event, or it's just the way he is. You can't change people from what they are, so you have to accept them.
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yeah thats not what Heathen means, not being of the 3 monotheistic religious groups Christian, Jewish, or Muslim, does not make one not religious or uncivilized...
I don't think number count is what we can use as comparison between these historical figures and Carver. It's a state of mind. In my opinion a state of mind in which a person in power has no regard for his fellow man but is enamored with said power and control of others. In this case, I'd say Carver is just as bad as Stalin and other dictators.
the history you think you know isnt correct, the modern definition of Heathen is someone not of the monotheist religions that is its historical context. the definition you chose to use, is derogatory, i dont expect a apology matter of fact i hope you keep this argument going so everyone here can see what you actually are
I know the history of the word. I also know in modern definition, it also applys to "uncivilized behavior, or lacking culture."
And I kno… morew that punctuation is key when trying to sound "smrt, lelz."
As I read, I see around four punctual errors. D+.
Words can have more than one definition, isn't THAT crazy? I learned that in, what, second grade?
Also, in first grade, I learned that you should capitalize the first letter in a sentence. Especially when trying to get your "point" across and make your opponent look like a "bigot."
In any rate, I've grown tired of this squabble. Look up "heathen," you may be suprised to know there's a few definitions to the word.
the history you think you know isnt correct, the modern definition of Heathen is someone not of the monotheist religions that is its histori… morecal context. the definition you chose to use, is derogatory, i dont expect a apology matter of fact i hope you keep this argument going so everyone here can see what you actually are
Ok, I've had time to cool off. So, I apologise for being a dickhead earlier. I do not apologise for using heathen to describe Kenny's actions in that scene though, in fact, I still stand by that.
Just please try and understand I do not appreciate when somebody insults my intelligence, it REALLY irks me. Your definition was correct, as was mine. So, I'll leave it at that.
Words can have more than one definition, isn't THAT crazy? I learned that in, what, second grade?
Also, in first grade, I learned that yo… moreu should capitalize the first letter in a sentence. Especially when trying to get your "point" across and make your opponent look like a "bigot."
In any rate, I've grown tired of this squabble. Look up "heathen," you may be suprised to know there's a few definitions to the word.
After reading this discussion, I have to sympathize with you in some respects.
I do not like my intelligence to be insulted either.
And if a person insults my manhood, or my family, they're in for a peck of trouble!
However, over the years, I've been teaching myself to respond in a more dignified way, when it comes to insults like these.
Even though those types of remarks have a lot of sting to them.
When someone would insult me like that, I would immediately start having a shouting match with them.
However, I'm trying to be more calm, when responding.
And when it comes to family, the way I feel about it is, "You got a problem with my family, you got a problem with me buddy!"
But I digress.
Ok, I've had time to cool off. So, I apologise for being a dickhead earlier. I do not apologise for using heathen to describe Kenny's action… mores in that scene though, in fact, I still stand by that.
Just please try and understand I do not appreciate when somebody insults my intelligence, it REALLY irks me. Your definition was correct, as was mine. So, I'll leave it at that.
Thanks for the reply and the up vote! The down votes didn't bother me much but I really appreciate it Rock. I can see that killing Carver can be necessary, but I just wish there was a better option then killing him. I can't blame Kenny for what he did though. After his eye, I guess Kenny was just getting revenge. Still, I think Carver was dead a few hits before, and a shot to the head would have been easier.
Blades, take my upvote for taking a stand for your morals, unpopular though your opinion may be. I myself disagree, and wanted to kill Carve… morer (though not in as brutal a way as Kenny did) to ensure that he couldn't continue to take the lives of others. But I can understand not wanting to kill him. Killing is serious business, as you said, and not to be done lightly to even the worst of people given exactly how much you're taking away from them.
If you watch carefully, you can tell he was dead after the first blow.
It doesn't take much to severely injure, let alone kill a person.
For example, Christopher Reeves, ( Who played Superman back in the 70's), became paralyzed after falling from a horse.
According the the video I saw, Reeves was riding around an indoor obstacle course, when all of a sudden the horse halted as they were nearing a jump.
Reeves fell straight forward off the horse, landing on his head, and sadly the rest is history.
Another example of how easy it is to get badly injured, I myself happened to be moving some heavy equipment at work.
Now the way your suppose to lift is with you're legs, NOT your back, NEITHER rotate your spine.
Cause of being in a hurry, and plus not thinking about what I was doing, I ended up hurting my back real good.
As a result, after going to my chiropractor, I was told not lift anything heavy for the next couple, if I didn't to make things much worse.
I still went to work, but my work performance was hindered because of my injury.
It doesn't take much to get injured, or killed.
One little accident, is sometimes all it takes.
Depending on what the person's doing at the time, of course.
Thanks for the reply and the up vote! The down votes didn't bother me much but I really appreciate it Rock. I can see that killing Carver ca… moren be necessary, but I just wish there was a better option then killing him. I can't blame Kenny for what he did though. After his eye, I guess Kenny was just getting revenge. Still, I think Carver was dead a few hits before, and a shot to the head would have been easier.
I don't think number count is what we can use as comparison between these historical figures and Carver. It's a state of mind. In my opinion… more a state of mind in which a person in power has no regard for his fellow man but is enamored with said power and control of others. In this case, I'd say Carver is just as bad as Stalin and other dictators.
I agree that Carver was a very 1 dimensional evil character. The Dairy Farmers were interesting villains, and the Stranger was a sad villain. But Carver, he was just a villain for the sake of being a villain.
I think a worse punishment would have been Kenny writing a story about carver, where carver's character actually had some development and we… more got to actually see some lightness AND evil, rather than the 1 dimensional, lame villain that telltale gave us. who cares what kenny did do him?
Ok, I've had time to cool off. So, I apologise for being a dickhead earlier. I do not apologise for using heathen to describe Kenny's action… mores in that scene though, in fact, I still stand by that.
Just please try and understand I do not appreciate when somebody insults my intelligence, it REALLY irks me. Your definition was correct, as was mine. So, I'll leave it at that.
With all due respect, since I'm the one who created this forum, let's please try to keep things civil.
I did not create the forum so people can fight with, nor insult one another.
I created this forum, so we could calmly discuss a subject, about a questionable moral decision, made by a videogame character.
So I'm going to ask, that we please put our differences aside here.
As you can see, he's trying to end things in peaceful manner.
So let's let bygones be bygones.
True.
But like those men, he had a very unsacred view of human life.
That's why keeping ones mind focused on good, decent things is so important.
What we feed our minds on, has a strong baring on how we act, and react, to situations/ struggles that come our way.
That's a lesson my Dad taught me growing up.
Smart man!
It's ok.
If people have different opinions and wish to debate them, that does not bother me.
Sometimes I rather enjoy a good debate, especially if it involves an intriguing subject.
Just as long as mutual respect is shown.
saying their should be mutual respect does not mean their is mutual respect, i called a bigot out on their remark. ClemInTime not only didnt apologized for it but they reiterated their bigoted stance then has the audacity to say that we should be mutually respectable towards each other.
It's ok.
If people have different opinions and wish to debate them, that does not bother me.
Sometimes I rather enjoy a good debate, especially if it involves an intriguing subject.
Just as long as mutual respect is shown.
Even is someone doesn't like the way another person said something, that doesn't mean a person has to get rude with them.
Nor resort to insults.
Someone who is truly tactful, does not resort to such things.
And by not doing so, not only shows respect towards the other person, but also shows self-respect.
Now I cannot make anyone show respect for anyone else.
But what I can ask is for people to at least be civil.
And since I'm the one who created this forum in the first place, I do have a right to ask such.
And now, with all due respect, let's drop it.
And move on!
Like I said before, let's let bygones be bygones.
saying their should be mutual respect does not mean their is mutual respect, i called a bigot out on their remark. ClemInTime not only didnt… more apologized for it but they reiterated their bigoted stance then has the audacity to say that we should be mutually respectable towards each other.
Kenny killing Carver was humane in a technical way.
If he never did that, imagine all the people he would kill next? All the people that would suffer at the hands of him, children even.
Just like the man himself says, "Killing one in order to save many is part of survival. It's one of the tough decisions that a weaker person couldn't make."
The 'weaker person' being Luke, sadly. So, in a way, Carver predicted his death... wow.
Maybe not right, but necessary. Preferably just with a bullet to the head though.
He was a bastard who would've killed more people, probably raped Rebecca, tortured Carlos (and potentially Alvin), beat Kenny half-blind, smacked kids about (or instructed it happen), and would probably have come after the group again.
no thanks, i will continue calling bigots out on their bigoted behavior. and you didn't create this forum white knight; you created this thread..why are you even jumping into a conversation you dont know shit about? your making excuses for a bigot to continue their bigotry, is that the type of person you are?
Even is someone doesn't like the way another person said something, that doesn't mean a person has to get rude with them.
Nor resort to ins… moreults.
Someone who is truly tactful, does not resort to such things.
And by not doing so, not only shows respect towards the other person, but also shows self-respect.
Now I cannot make anyone show respect for anyone else.
But what I can ask is for people to at least be civil.
And since I'm the one who created this forum in the first place, I do have a right to ask such.
And now, with all due respect, let's drop it.
And move on!
Like I said before, let's let bygones be bygones.
I actually can't blame him for killing Carver. Even if he killed him violently, I couldn't blame him for snapping. Carver took out his eye. I mean Kenny was being really stupid when he cursed at Carver, but Carver almost killed him as a response.. Personally, Kenny had every right to kill Carver the way he did.
I meant to say thread.
And you're correct, it was not my conversation, and I in hindsight, should not have gotten involved.
And I apologize.
But I also respect him for standing by what he believes to be right, as doing so takes inner strength.
And also the fact that he apologised for getting ill-tempered.
And plus, everyone has their own opinion on something, whether people agree with it or not.
That's called individuality.
And after all, Kenny is only a videogame character.
Not a real person!
Even though I like his character, and will defend him and why I like him, I don't start calling people bigots and whatnot.
If I disagree with what they're saying, I'll do so, giving the reasons why, but still doing so in a civil and respectful manner.
Even though this was originally cause there was a disagreement over the meaning of what a certain word meant, the principle of not needing to resort to insults when disagreeing with another person, still apply.
And I stand by that principle.
Plus, this thread that I created, was not asking about a videogame character persay, nor was it asking about proper word definition, but rather was asking a question regarding a questionable moral decision.
And how ones see it.
Do they believe it was right/ necessary?
Or not?
And seeing why others felt the way they do.
But anyway, back to the Carver incident.
The fact that Carver provoked Kenny into killing him, shows just how evil he really was.
He knew that doing so, Kenny would be playing into his hands, cause Kenny would be stooping to his level.
Carver wanted him to do so, as he knew he would be taking Kenny down with him, morally speaking.
That is totally demented!
Kenny, before then, had never killed out of revenge.
Yes he had killed to survive, but that is a different reason all together.
Not saying that Carver did not need to be killed.
But the reason why Kenny did it, raises highly questionable moral implications.
Though that is not to say Kenny is a bad man.
After all, Rick tore a guy's jugular vein out with his teeth, to save his son.
And he's still trying to do the right thing.
So I have a feeling, Kenny will still try to do the right thing, while being brutal when he to be.
no thanks, i will continue calling bigots out on their bigoted behavior. and you didn't create this forum white knight; you created this thr… moreead..why are you even jumping into a conversation you dont know shit about? your making excuses for a bigot to continue their bigotry, is that the type of person you are?
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Carver* :P
I was more or less just stating my own viewpoint.
And as far as wanting everyone who's ever sinned against the group my character is in, dead, that does not apply to me.
And quite frankly, lumping me in that category is unfair.
So allow me to explain my position.
When Lilly killed Carly, I found that leaving on the side of the road was punishment enough.
I showed that I did not approve of what she did, and left her to fend for herself.
Whether or not if she lived or died, her fate was in her own hands from that point on.
Not mine.
When Vernon stole the boat, I wanted him punished for it.
But realizing that there probably would not be enough time to get Clementine back, and catch up to Vernon, who could've been anywhere by the time Kenny and I found the boat gone, I let it go and opted to head out into the countryside.
When Bonnie betrayed the group, I knew that I wouldn't be so quick to trust her in episode 3.
Which is reasonable.
But I did not want her dead.
If she murdered a member of the group, then it would be a different story, but alas she did not.
As far as Troy goes, I wanted Kenny to beat the crap out of him for hurting Clementine.
Violence against children is wrong.
And whoever beats on a child, that person deserves to get their ass whipped.
And like I said before, Carver was to dangerous to be kept alive.
And I did not find anything redeemable about him.
And since he showed no remorse, nor repentance for the things he did, I saw no basis to forgive him.
I am aware. I didn't say you're viewpoint was invalid. We both have our own opinions, and obviously mine is the unpopular one.
I love when I post unpopular opinions, and get down votes, and the person I'm countering has the same amount except in up votes! I guess I'll always be in the minority... I was more or less just stating my own viewpoint as well.
Just to clarify I'm not saying I believe Kenny lacks his humanity. Just making a comparison between Carvers ruthlessness and Kenny's questionable slipping state of mind. I love Kenny, and I don't want to see him lose his humanity.
I liked that you mentioned the fact that Kenny didn't make anyone watch.
In fact, when speaking to Clementine, Kenny urged her to not watch.
Whether or not Clementine watched, was all up to the individual player.
The player bares the responsibility for whatever decision they made.
I can definitely appreciate that.
Fair enough.
Blades, take my upvote for taking a stand for your morals, unpopular though your opinion may be. I myself disagree, and wanted to kill Carver (though not in as brutal a way as Kenny did) to ensure that he couldn't continue to take the lives of others. But I can understand not wanting to kill him. Killing is serious business, as you said, and not to be done lightly to even the worst of people given exactly how much you're taking away from them.
Those men killed millions of people while Carver killed maybe one or two hundred people. Just stating facts
Despite the fact that I LOVED Carver's death (I stayed and watched
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."
Your reply to ralo229. And you can see what I was going to say below
Close enough lol
I know the history of the word. I also know in modern definition, it also applys to "uncivilized behavior, or lacking culture."
And I know that punctuation is key when trying to sound "smrt, lelz."
As I read, I see around four punctual errors. D+.
I don't think number count is what we can use as comparison between these historical figures and Carver. It's a state of mind. In my opinion a state of mind in which a person in power has no regard for his fellow man but is enamored with said power and control of others. In this case, I'd say Carver is just as bad as Stalin and other dictators.
the history you think you know isnt correct, the modern definition of Heathen is someone not of the monotheist religions that is its historical context. the definition you chose to use, is derogatory, i dont expect a apology matter of fact i hope you keep this argument going so everyone here can see what you actually are
Words can have more than one definition, isn't THAT crazy? I learned that in, what, second grade?
Also, in first grade, I learned that you should capitalize the first letter in a sentence. Especially when trying to get your "point" across and make your opponent look like a "bigot."
In any rate, I've grown tired of this squabble. Look up "heathen," you may be suprised to know there's a few definitions to the word.
Ok, I've had time to cool off. So, I apologise for being a dickhead earlier. I do not apologise for using heathen to describe Kenny's actions in that scene though, in fact, I still stand by that.
Just please try and understand I do not appreciate when somebody insults my intelligence, it REALLY irks me. Your definition was correct, as was mine. So, I'll leave it at that.
After reading this discussion, I have to sympathize with you in some respects.
I do not like my intelligence to be insulted either.
And if a person insults my manhood, or my family, they're in for a peck of trouble!
However, over the years, I've been teaching myself to respond in a more dignified way, when it comes to insults like these.
Even though those types of remarks have a lot of sting to them.
When someone would insult me like that, I would immediately start having a shouting match with them.
However, I'm trying to be more calm, when responding.
And when it comes to family, the way I feel about it is, "You got a problem with my family, you got a problem with me buddy!"
But I digress.
I'm happy to see things were resolved.
Thanks for the reply and the up vote! The down votes didn't bother me much but I really appreciate it Rock. I can see that killing Carver can be necessary, but I just wish there was a better option then killing him. I can't blame Kenny for what he did though. After his eye, I guess Kenny was just getting revenge. Still, I think Carver was dead a few hits before, and a shot to the head would have been easier.
If you watch carefully, you can tell he was dead after the first blow.
It doesn't take much to severely injure, let alone kill a person.
For example, Christopher Reeves, ( Who played Superman back in the 70's), became paralyzed after falling from a horse.
According the the video I saw, Reeves was riding around an indoor obstacle course, when all of a sudden the horse halted as they were nearing a jump.
Reeves fell straight forward off the horse, landing on his head, and sadly the rest is history.
Another example of how easy it is to get badly injured, I myself happened to be moving some heavy equipment at work.
Now the way your suppose to lift is with you're legs, NOT your back, NEITHER rotate your spine.
Cause of being in a hurry, and plus not thinking about what I was doing, I ended up hurting my back real good.
As a result, after going to my chiropractor, I was told not lift anything heavy for the next couple, if I didn't to make things much worse.
I still went to work, but my work performance was hindered because of my injury.
It doesn't take much to get injured, or killed.
One little accident, is sometimes all it takes.
Depending on what the person's doing at the time, of course.
What I meant was, is that Carver had the same basic mindset as these men.
Maybe
Carvers punishment xD
I agree that Carver was a very 1 dimensional evil character. The Dairy Farmers were interesting villains, and the Stranger was a sad villain. But Carver, he was just a villain for the sake of being a villain.
so in other words you dont apologise, lets just stick with you being a dick-head and leave it at that..
I guess, but at least he wasn't based on race when he killed people.
With all due respect, since I'm the one who created this forum, let's please try to keep things civil.
I did not create the forum so people can fight with, nor insult one another.
I created this forum, so we could calmly discuss a subject, about a questionable moral decision, made by a videogame character.
So I'm going to ask, that we please put our differences aside here.
As you can see, he's trying to end things in peaceful manner.
So let's let bygones be bygones.
True.
But like those men, he had a very unsacred view of human life.
That's why keeping ones mind focused on good, decent things is so important.
What we feed our minds on, has a strong baring on how we act, and react, to situations/ struggles that come our way.
That's a lesson my Dad taught me growing up.
Smart man!
Ok, it's never been a problem before.
It's ok.
If people have different opinions and wish to debate them, that does not bother me.
Sometimes I rather enjoy a good debate, especially if it involves an intriguing subject.
Just as long as mutual respect is shown.
Out of curiosity, what would you say would've been brutal enough?
saying their should be mutual respect does not mean their is mutual respect, i called a bigot out on their remark. ClemInTime not only didnt apologized for it but they reiterated their bigoted stance then has the audacity to say that we should be mutually respectable towards each other.
Even is someone doesn't like the way another person said something, that doesn't mean a person has to get rude with them.
Nor resort to insults.
Someone who is truly tactful, does not resort to such things.
And by not doing so, not only shows respect towards the other person, but also shows self-respect.
Now I cannot make anyone show respect for anyone else.
But what I can ask is for people to at least be civil.
And since I'm the one who created this forum in the first place, I do have a right to ask such.
And now, with all due respect, let's drop it.
And move on!
Like I said before, let's let bygones be bygones.
I'm sure someone has beaten me to this already, but hey...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzVFugFcUto
Kenny killing Carver was humane in a technical way.
If he never did that, imagine all the people he would kill next? All the people that would suffer at the hands of him, children even.
Just like the man himself says, "Killing one in order to save many is part of survival. It's one of the tough decisions that a weaker person couldn't make."
The 'weaker person' being Luke, sadly. So, in a way, Carver predicted his death... wow.
Maybe not right, but necessary. Preferably just with a bullet to the head though.
He was a bastard who would've killed more people, probably raped Rebecca, tortured Carlos (and potentially Alvin), beat Kenny half-blind, smacked kids about (or instructed it happen), and would probably have come after the group again.
no thanks, i will continue calling bigots out on their bigoted behavior. and you didn't create this forum white knight; you created this thread..why are you even jumping into a conversation you dont know shit about? your making excuses for a bigot to continue their bigotry, is that the type of person you are?
I actually can't blame him for killing Carver. Even if he killed him violently, I couldn't blame him for snapping. Carver took out his eye. I mean Kenny was being really stupid when he cursed at Carver, but Carver almost killed him as a response.. Personally, Kenny had every right to kill Carver the way he did.
I meant to say thread.
And you're correct, it was not my conversation, and I in hindsight, should not have gotten involved.
And I apologize.
But I also respect him for standing by what he believes to be right, as doing so takes inner strength.
And also the fact that he apologised for getting ill-tempered.
And plus, everyone has their own opinion on something, whether people agree with it or not.
That's called individuality.
And after all, Kenny is only a videogame character.
Not a real person!
Even though I like his character, and will defend him and why I like him, I don't start calling people bigots and whatnot.
If I disagree with what they're saying, I'll do so, giving the reasons why, but still doing so in a civil and respectful manner.
Even though this was originally cause there was a disagreement over the meaning of what a certain word meant, the principle of not needing to resort to insults when disagreeing with another person, still apply.
And I stand by that principle.
Plus, this thread that I created, was not asking about a videogame character persay, nor was it asking about proper word definition, but rather was asking a question regarding a questionable moral decision.
And how ones see it.
Do they believe it was right/ necessary?
Or not?
And seeing why others felt the way they do.
But anyway, back to the Carver incident.
The fact that Carver provoked Kenny into killing him, shows just how evil he really was.
He knew that doing so, Kenny would be playing into his hands, cause Kenny would be stooping to his level.
Carver wanted him to do so, as he knew he would be taking Kenny down with him, morally speaking.
That is totally demented!
Kenny, before then, had never killed out of revenge.
Yes he had killed to survive, but that is a different reason all together.
Not saying that Carver did not need to be killed.
But the reason why Kenny did it, raises highly questionable moral implications.
Though that is not to say Kenny is a bad man.
After all, Rick tore a guy's jugular vein out with his teeth, to save his son.
And he's still trying to do the right thing.
So I have a feeling, Kenny will still try to do the right thing, while being brutal when he to be.