Oh? If only you would point out these sloppy and inconsistent arguments instead of snarking I might learn the error of my ways!
Or continue the snark. I'm actually perversely entertained by it.
You made a post essentially saying Kenny's hypocrisy shouldn't be singled out because these other characters are hypocrites too.
I replied with why Kenny is being singled out. Because Kenny is disliked and I gave reasons why he's disliked.
You ignore all that and return to pointing the finger back at Luke (and also being hostile towards me, but that okay. We you can't all be bastions of maturity and decency and humility like I am).
Are you.... serious? You can't be.
One of the first points I adressed was that the content of this thread itself wasn't actually wrong, b… moreecause Kenny is a hypocrite. Did you just find that out?
I only came here to prove why this pick and smash was unfair. Which I successfully did.
Since then you ranted on and proceeded to indirectly call me fake and we technically argued about three topics at the same time due to your lack of responses to each one of them. It felt like playing Mario 64 all over again.
It's okay, girl
Are you dense?
You made a post essentially saying Kenny's hypocrisy shouldn't be singled out because these other characters are hypocrite… mores too.
I replied with why Kenny is being singled out. Because Kenny is disliked and I gave reasons why he's disliked.
You ignore all that and return to pointing the finger back at Luke (and also being hostile towards me, but that okay. We you can't all be bastions of maturity and decency and humility like I am).
Are you dense?
You made a post essentially saying Kenny's hypocrisy shouldn't be singled out because these other characters are hypocrite… mores too.
I replied with why Kenny is being singled out. Because Kenny is disliked and I gave reasons why he's disliked.
You ignore all that and return to pointing the finger back at Luke (and also being hostile towards me, but that okay. We you can't all be bastions of maturity and decency and humility like I am).
I don't think it's so much the actual doing of it, but more that Kenny is laying the blame hard on Clem for something he himself did in S1.
I can fully understand him not being able to kill his gf and someone else having to do it. In this case though it seems he doesn't even fathom that the hard thing had to be done.
I think they established that with the Duck thing. Yeah, it's always easy for Kenny to do the hard thing as long as it's not someone he cares about. In his defense, that probably would be hard for anyone.
You do realize it's a game, and Kenny isn't an actual person right?
Also if he was a real person he's actually realistic. How many of you would feel the exact same with killing a stranger versus killing someone you love?
Firstly, Kenny was trapped with Larry so he had all the right to kill him in order to save everyone inside. However, Kenny is an adult and can take responsibility for his actions.
Secondly, accept it or not, Clementine is a fucking kid that has no right to cut someone's arm just because she can! If Sarita died there then Kenny wouldn't blame Clementine for not saving Sarita.
Isn't what? Isn't relevant to what I was saying? Yes, that is the first reasonable thing you've said in a while.:)
I'll indulge this Luke tangent for a bit,
Luke was neglectful with his nookie break: Yup
Luke makes lame excuses when called out on his nookie break: Oh yes.
Luke constantly calls out Kenny's perhaps rash and creepy behavior: Agreed. But I'm kinda with Luke when it comes to Kenny, but I'll just go with the interpretation of Luke was also being a bitch about it for the sake of me not really being interested in arguing about luke.
Okay. So how is Kenny still the asshole after episode 4 season 2? How about because of Kenny's actions and behavior from season 1 episode 1 onwards, up to and including Season 2 episode 4. What about Luke's actions? If Luke is bad, then he's the chlamydia compared Kenny's full blown AIDS.
Edit: Actually, I was a bit unfair in the previous paragraph. Kenny didn't appear to be so bad in 1.01. He was butting heads with Larry and Larry was an even bigger asshole. Kenny's dick nature didn't start to appear until 1.02.
Also, I was never hostile. I made a comment on how you made a good first impression and how quicky it went away.
If you can't handle that on the internet you're probably not as mature as you think.
I wish that there was an option to tell Kenny that he did the exact same thing with Larry when he blames you...
Clem: Hey don't blame me, someone here have to have the balls to do it... DOES THAT REMIND YOU ANYONE?!
Err, no. If you haven't noticed I've been disregarding your attempts to bring it back to Luke because Luke is not really that relevant to what I was trying to say. Unless there's 2 seasons worth of Luke being a shithead i missed.
You: Others did bad things too. Kenny shouldn't be singled out.
Me: Kenny is singled out because this.
???
Us: Now we enter enter an era of mutual understanding!
Uh, kay?
I agree, but that's about everything you've done so far. Who doesn't know why Kenny is disliked? How does that change my initial point?
Are you implying that if I list reasons why Luke is disliked this argument is over?
It's because he wasn't nice to Clementine... The people on here cry about people who are meanies like that. People are like "Clementine should be able to tell Kenny to fuck off". I'd love it if that option was there, and Kenny reacts by blowing her away... Could you imagine the uproar?? Oh it would be glorious, and hilarious.
Err, no. If you haven't noticed I've been disregarding your attempts to bring it back to Luke because Luke is not really that relevant to wh… moreat I was trying to say. Unless there's 2 seasons worth of Luke being a shithead i missed.
You: Others did bad things too. Kenny shouldn't be singled out.
Me: Kenny is singled out because this.
???
Us: Now we enter enter an era of mutual understanding!
And just because we've had to deal with Kenny longer it frees Luke of his own mistakes and faults? No.
Thanks for finally proving my point. You've admitted that Luke can sometimes be a clown who makes excuses and is perfectly capable of being a Benish fuck up.
And just because we met Luke a week ago it means he gets a pass while Kenny gets death wishes? You're blinded by hatred. There's not much to say about this.
Isn't what? Isn't relevant to what I was saying? Yes, that is the first reasonable thing you've said in a while.:)
I'll indulge this Luke… more tangent for a bit,
Luke was neglectful with his nookie break: Yup
Luke makes lame excuses when called out on his nookie break: Oh yes.
Luke constantly calls out Kenny's perhaps rash and creepy behavior: Agreed. But I'm kinda with Luke when it comes to Kenny, but I'll just go with the interpretation of Luke was also being a bitch about it for the sake of me not really being interested in arguing about luke.
Okay. So how is Kenny still the asshole after episode 4 season 2? How about because of Kenny's actions and behavior from season 1 episode 1 onwards, up to and including Season 2 episode 4. What about Luke's actions? If Luke is bad, then he's the chlamydia compared Kenny's full blown AIDS.
Edit: Actually, I was a bit unfair in the previous paragraph. Kenny didn't appear to be so bad in 1.… [view original content]
There you go again. Pointless, unimportant details being brought up.
Since when does the fact that Kenny has had more time to shine than … moreLuke means it's right what I've been saying is not all along?
You: Kenny is singled out because of this.
Me: How does that change anything? Every character could be singled out. No one is perfect.
You: Repeat what you said three more times and adopt a passive agressive personality.
You know the main difference between us? I'm being rational and fair. You're the one who went on a "Fuck Kenny hope u die hahaha" rampage. You can't be taken seriously when you behave like that.
No one is perfect. Kenny is less perfect than most, and he's a dick about it. This is why Kenny is rightfully singled out over the others. The end.
This train of thought can't be that difficult to follow, can it?
And just because we've had to deal with Kenny longer it frees Luke of his own mistakes and faults? No.
Thanks for finally proving my poin… moret. You've admitted that Luke can sometimes be a clown who makes excuses and is perfectly capable of being a Benish fuck up.
And just because we met Luke a week ago it means he gets a pass while Kenny gets death wishes? You're blinded by hatred. There's not much to say about this.
It's because he wasn't nice to Clementine... The people on here cry about people who are meanies like that. People are like "Clementine sh… moreould be able to tell Kenny to fuck off". I'd love it if that option was there, and Kenny reacts by blowing her away... Could you imagine the uproar?? Oh it would be glorious, and hilarious.
That's where you're really puzzling. You admitted that Luke and Kenny are both douchebags that have their faults which I give you credit for. After that, everything was pure nonsense like pretty much the rest so far.
"Kenny is worse because of reasons, and I said so. Deal with it."
Do you really expect a non Kenny hater to believe this?
But if Sarita made it out of the herd and then subsequently died from her bite wound and infection, you can be damned sure Kenny would be the first (and only) one to say: "Fucking hell Clementine you stupid little kid! You had a hatchet, you know what to do - why the hell didn't you cut of her arm before it was too late"
Sarita dying (at least without Clem chopping her arm off) was a 100% certainty - not so with Larry.
Firstly, Kenny was trapped with Larry so he had all the right to kill him in order to save everyone inside. However, Kenny is an adult and c… morean take responsibility for his actions.
Secondly, accept it or not, Clementine is a fucking kid that has no right to cut someone's arm just because she can! If Sarita died there then Kenny wouldn't blame Clementine for not saving Sarita.
But I did say fuck Kenny and his various jerkass actions. Is that why you sort of flipped the lid? My usage of the word fuck? Would it have been better if I used "screw" instead? Actually, it might have. I admit I have a foul mouth.
I bet you would take me less seriously if was all, "A pox on Kenny and his lack of empathy." And that might have been construed as me wishing death on him, instead of merely rashy balls.
Listen, not everyone who hates certain characters would actually like to kill them. See: Larry. For most who had conflicts with Kenny in season 1, came to a head because they refused to kill Larry.
You know the main difference between us? I'm being rational and fair. You're the one who went on a "Fuck Kenny hope u die hahaha" rampage. You can't be taken seriously when you behave like that.
Lol! I didn't say fuck kenny hope you die hahaha.
But I did say fuck Kenny and his various jerkass actions. Is that why you sort of flipp… moreed the lid? My usage of the word fuck? Would it have been better if I used "screw" instead? Actually, it might have. I admit I have a foul mouth.
I bet you would take me less seriously if was all, "A pox on Kenny and his lack of empathy." And that might have been construed as me wishing death on him, instead of merely rashy balls.
Listen, not everyone who hates certain characters would actually like to kill them. See: Larry. For most who had conflicts with Kenny in season 1, came to a head because they refused to kill Larry.
No, I expect those who would defend Kenny to actually defend Kenny.
"Kenny is worse because of reasons and I said so. Deal with it."? Where the hell do you get this? Are you purposefully interpreting what I say in the worst possible way?
Was what I said about Kenny untrue or inaccurate? Then argue that instead of implying I just luurve Luke or whatever.
That's where you're really puzzling. You admitted that Luke and Kenny are both douchebags that have their faults which I give you credit for… more. After that, everything was pure nonsense like pretty much the rest so far.
"Kenny is worse because of reasons, and I said so. Deal with it."
Do you really expect a non Kenny hater to believe this?
I would tell Luke to go piss on a tree or say hi to the devil for me, because that's just a hilarious thing for Clem to say. See, now you kinda want to see that, don't you. Not as rational as you thought you were, huh.
Seriously, I didn't mean to upset you by saying fuck Kenny for being bossy. I genuinely apologize.
I thought you were smart enough to understand that was simply me summarizing what's been going on so far.
Why wouldn't I take you serious… morely? And the last thing I mind is the fucks. What had a bitter taste is the message those fucks were making across.
I don't particularly like Luke and I still didn't tell him to go piss on a tree or say hi to the devil for me.
Because I'm rational.
You still don't get it. Could you please tell me how I'm defending Kenny?
I'm defending the fact that he's being treated unfairly. If this thread was about how many hypocrites we've come across and explaining how each one of them is one I would've given it an upvote and say "Good one".
You still don't get this either. What you're saying about Kenny is true, for the most part. What's childish and wrong is acting like he's the biggest parasite ever simply because you have an agenda against him.
No, I expect those who would defend Kenny to actually defend Kenny.
"Kenny is worse because of reasons and I said so. Deal with it."? Whe… morere the hell do you get this? Are you purposefully interpreting what I say in the worst possible way?
Was what I said about Kenny untrue or inaccurate? Then argue that instead of implying I just luurve Luke or whatever.
Lol! Okay, captain rational.
I would tell Luke to go piss on a tree or say hi to the devil for me, because that's just a hilarious thing … morefor Clem to say. See, now you kinda want to see that, don't you. Not as rational as you thought you were, huh.
Seriously, I didn't mean to upset you by saying fuck Kenny for being bossy. I genuinely apologize.
I agree that he is a total self-obsessed hypocrite and always has been. I just want to give him one minute of understanding. I can't imagine having to put down my son like with Duck so I give him that, but that's all.
I don't think it's so much the actual doing of it, but more that Kenny is laying the blame hard on Clem for something he himself did in S1. … more
I can fully understand him not being able to kill his gf and someone else having to do it. In this case though it seems he doesn't even fathom that the hard thing had to be done.
Exhibit A of why I wish Kenny wasn't in this season. Everything has become about him. Kenny was fine until Clementine showed up because he's more important than anyone.
Kenny is both well written and well performed. There's no denying Kenny wouldn't be nearly so famous (or infamous, depending on your POV) without Gavin Hammon's characterization, which can go from loveable to hateful and back again in the blink of an eye.
Do you get that I've been arguing it's *fair *to consider Kenny worse than the other supporting cast? Do you get in order to support this, I have to give reasons. The reasons I gave were examples of Kenny's bad behavior.
Perhaps you rather I approached this by making up excuses for Luke's behavior? Because you rather spend time ragging on Luke? I notice you took the effort to post image macros against Luke and always trying to redirect the ire towards Luke. Maybe I'm not the one with the agenda.
You still don't get it. Could you please tell me how I'm defending Kenny?
I'm defending the fact that he's being treated unfairly. If thi… mores thread was about how many hypocrites we've come across and explaining how each one of them is one I would've given it an upvote and say "Good one".
You still don't get this either. What you're saying about Kenny is true, for the most part. What's childish and wrong is acting like he's the biggest parasite ever simply because you have an agenda against him.
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You ignoring my comment about Luke thus causing us to switch the topic again isn't? I must be very stupid.
Heh, I bet you are.
Are you dense?
You made a post essentially saying Kenny's hypocrisy shouldn't be singled out because these other characters are hypocrites too.
I replied with why Kenny is being singled out. Because Kenny is disliked and I gave reasons why he's disliked.
You ignore all that and return to pointing the finger back at Luke (and also being hostile towards me, but that okay. We you can't all be bastions of maturity and decency and humility like I am).
Uh, kay?
I agree, but that's about everything you've done so far. Who doesn't know why Kenny is disliked? How does that change my initial point?
Are you implying that if I list reasons why Luke is disliked this argument is over?
I wish that there was an option to tell Kenny that he did the exact same thing with Larry when he blames you...
Clem: Hey don't blame me, someone here have to have the balls to do it... DOES THAT REMIND YOU ANYONE?!
Also, I was never hostile. I made a comment on how you made a good first impression and how quicky it went away.
If you can't handle that on the internet you're probably not as mature as you think.
I don't think it's so much the actual doing of it, but more that Kenny is laying the blame hard on Clem for something he himself did in S1.
I can fully understand him not being able to kill his gf and someone else having to do it. In this case though it seems he doesn't even fathom that the hard thing had to be done.
You do realize it's a game, and Kenny isn't an actual person right?
Also if he was a real person he's actually realistic. How many of you would feel the exact same with killing a stranger versus killing someone you love?
Firstly, Kenny was trapped with Larry so he had all the right to kill him in order to save everyone inside. However, Kenny is an adult and can take responsibility for his actions.
Secondly, accept it or not, Clementine is a fucking kid that has no right to cut someone's arm just because she can! If Sarita died there then Kenny wouldn't blame Clementine for not saving Sarita.
Isn't what? Isn't relevant to what I was saying? Yes, that is the first reasonable thing you've said in a while.:)
I'll indulge this Luke tangent for a bit,
Luke was neglectful with his nookie break: Yup
Luke makes lame excuses when called out on his nookie break: Oh yes.
Luke constantly calls out Kenny's perhaps rash and creepy behavior: Agreed. But I'm kinda with Luke when it comes to Kenny, but I'll just go with the interpretation of Luke was also being a bitch about it for the sake of me not really being interested in arguing about luke.
Okay. So how is Kenny still the asshole after episode 4 season 2? How about because of Kenny's actions and behavior from season 1 episode 1 onwards, up to and including Season 2 episode 4. What about Luke's actions? If Luke is bad, then he's the chlamydia compared Kenny's full blown AIDS.
Edit: Actually, I was a bit unfair in the previous paragraph. Kenny didn't appear to be so bad in 1.01. He was butting heads with Larry and Larry was an even bigger asshole. Kenny's dick nature didn't start to appear until 1.02.
FUCK KENNY
Fuck Clementine. Kenny was doing just fine until her, and her band of misfits showed up at the lodge.
Oh, is that all you did?
No need to get defensive, guy. I am okay with it it, like I said. You're cool with me, kid.:)
You all love playing a little girl. Guess what, a little girl probably isn't going to stand up to a grown man with a gun in his hand.
Err, no. If you haven't noticed I've been disregarding your attempts to bring it back to Luke because Luke is not really that relevant to what I was trying to say. Unless there's 2 seasons worth of Luke being a shithead i missed.
You: Others did bad things too. Kenny shouldn't be singled out.
Me: Kenny is singled out because this.
???
Us: Now we enter enter an era of mutual understanding!
What are you talking about??? 100% of everything Kenny has done is from the writing. If you don't like him, take it up with the writers.
It's because he wasn't nice to Clementine... The people on here cry about people who are meanies like that. People are like "Clementine should be able to tell Kenny to fuck off". I'd love it if that option was there, and Kenny reacts by blowing her away... Could you imagine the uproar?? Oh it would be glorious, and hilarious.
There you go again. Pointless, unimportant details being brought up.
Since when does the fact that Kenny has had more time to shine than Luke means it's right what I've been saying is not all along?
You: Kenny is singled out because of this.
Me: How does that change anything? Every character could be singled out. No one is perfect.
You: Repeat what you said three more times and adopt a passive agressive personality.
And just because we've had to deal with Kenny longer it frees Luke of his own mistakes and faults? No.
Thanks for finally proving my point. You've admitted that Luke can sometimes be a clown who makes excuses and is perfectly capable of being a Benish fuck up.
And just because we met Luke a week ago it means he gets a pass while Kenny gets death wishes? You're blinded by hatred. There's not much to say about this.
No one is perfect. Kenny is less perfect than most, and he's a dick about it. This is why Kenny is rightfully singled out over the others. The end.
This train of thought can't be that difficult to follow, can it?
You know the main difference between us? I'm being rational and fair. You're the one who went on a "Fuck Kenny hope u die hahaha" rampage. You can't be taken seriously when you behave like that.
What? What makes you think I giving Luke a pass? How is anything I said freeing Luke from his mistakes?
Clem did stand up to Carver who is far more dangerous than Kenny.
In fact, you can argue with pretty much everyone in the game except Ken.
He wouldn't have the balls to point a gun at Clementine, let alone pull the trigger.
But, if the tables were flipped...
BOOM!
That's where you're really puzzling. You admitted that Luke and Kenny are both douchebags that have their faults which I give you credit for. After that, everything was pure nonsense like pretty much the rest so far.
"Kenny is worse because of reasons, and I said so. Deal with it."
Do you really expect a non Kenny hater to believe this?
But if Sarita made it out of the herd and then subsequently died from her bite wound and infection, you can be damned sure Kenny would be the first (and only) one to say: "Fucking hell Clementine you stupid little kid! You had a hatchet, you know what to do - why the hell didn't you cut of her arm before it was too late"
Sarita dying (at least without Clem chopping her arm off) was a 100% certainty - not so with Larry.
this*
Lol! I didn't say fuck kenny hope you die hahaha.
But I did say fuck Kenny and his various jerkass actions. Is that why you sort of flipped the lid? My usage of the word fuck? Would it have been better if I used "screw" instead? Actually, it might have. I admit I have a foul mouth.
I bet you would take me less seriously if was all, "A pox on Kenny and his lack of empathy." And that might have been construed as me wishing death on him, instead of merely rashy balls.
Listen, not everyone who hates certain characters would actually like to kill them. See: Larry. For most who had conflicts with Kenny in season 1, came to a head because they refused to kill Larry.
I thought you were smart enough to understand that was simply me summarizing what's been going on so far.
Why wouldn't I take you seriously? And the last thing I mind is the fucks. What had a bitter taste is the message those fucks were making across.
I don't particularly like Luke and I still didn't tell him to go piss on a tree or say hi to the devil for me.
Because I'm rational.
No, I expect those who would defend Kenny to actually defend Kenny.
"Kenny is worse because of reasons and I said so. Deal with it."? Where the hell do you get this? Are you purposefully interpreting what I say in the worst possible way?
Was what I said about Kenny untrue or inaccurate? Then argue that instead of implying I just luurve Luke or whatever.
Are you for realz?
Lol! Okay, captain rational.
I would tell Luke to go piss on a tree or say hi to the devil for me, because that's just a hilarious thing for Clem to say. See, now you kinda want to see that, don't you. Not as rational as you thought you were, huh.
Seriously, I didn't mean to upset you by saying fuck Kenny for being bossy. I genuinely apologize.
You still don't get it. Could you please tell me how I'm defending Kenny?
I'm defending the fact that he's being treated unfairly. If this thread was about how many hypocrites we've come across and explaining how each one of them is one I would've given it an upvote and say "Good one".
You still don't get this either. What you're saying about Kenny is true, for the most part. What's childish and wrong is acting like he's the biggest parasite ever simply because you have an agenda against him.
Do I? Unlike you, I don't go that far with a flawed video game character. Ohhh but you're so mature.
Aww. I was just trying to correct you but thanks for apologizing, hon.
I agree that he is a total self-obsessed hypocrite and always has been. I just want to give him one minute of understanding. I can't imagine having to put down my son like with Duck so I give him that, but that's all.
Why wouldn't she? She's knows Kenny wouldn't shoot her, unless you think him capable of that.
Exhibit A of why I wish Kenny wasn't in this season. Everything has become about him. Kenny was fine until Clementine showed up because he's more important than anyone.
This isn't an equatable comparison at all. Larry was an IMMEDIATE threat to the group. Sarita obviously was not.
So no, he was not being hypocritical. He was still wrong to say what he did, but it was not hypocritical at all.
Smart money is on you thinking that Kenny is poorly written just because you personally don't like him..
Kenny is both well written and well performed. There's no denying Kenny wouldn't be nearly so famous (or infamous, depending on your POV) without Gavin Hammon's characterization, which can go from loveable to hateful and back again in the blink of an eye.
Do you get that I've been arguing it's *fair *to consider Kenny worse than the other supporting cast? Do you get in order to support this, I have to give reasons. The reasons I gave were examples of Kenny's bad behavior.
Perhaps you rather I approached this by making up excuses for Luke's behavior? Because you rather spend time ragging on Luke? I notice you took the effort to post image macros against Luke and always trying to redirect the ire towards Luke. Maybe I'm not the one with the agenda.