As for the rest of what you've said, you're dismissing people without giving them a chance. As you said, the only difference is the thread title and some more posts. If you are inclusive to guests as you and other lounge members have prided yourselves on, and if the old threads are inactive as you say they are, then why is this a problem?
But this isn't just merging threads like about release dates, your merging communities. Communities that may not be comfortable with being p… moreushed involuntairly into whole new communities, that may not like eachother, that may even argue with eachother. That is not fair and will break all of those originally peaceful communities.
Where I disagree is that I don't think keeping it around really harms anyone. It may hurt your pride a little, but that can happen from a negative post. I've seen more hurt over unfriendly posts than downvotes. I just think that if we're allowed to express approval of an idea with upvotes, we should be allowed to express disapproval with downvotes. I think it makes it more fair and honest. I think they should remove all voting if they're going to remove downvotes. I think if a person is willing to take all the praise that people want to give them (in the form of upvotes), they should be willing to take the opposite. Why have voting at all? That's pretty much my point. Just lose the whole system.
Personally, I don't like getting/giving downvotes, but I'm just trying to be objective. I think they do serve a purpose. I don't think everyone necessarily wants to take the time to list the reasons they disagree because that can lead to a long, drawn-out debate that some people may not have the time/interest for. I think we should instead devalue the power of upvotes/downvotes. They're not that big of a deal. They just tally the number of people who agree/disagree with your post. We shouldn't put anymore stock into it than that. I pretty much have learned to ignore them at this point. Otherwise, just lose the voting entirely. I understand why you disagree and your reasons are valid, in my opinion. I just think if we're objectively considering what's fair, it should be all or nothing with the voting.
I think removing anonymity would discourage the mean-spirited trolls who downvote people en masse, and would lead to more honest voting and more discussion. That's my idea for a compromise. I have no idea how hard that would be to implement though (Disqus, a commenting system for news articles does it).
I see your point, I'll tell you the difference:
Upvotes only express positive feedback, they can't be intended to hate someone or disagre… moree with him, that's why there is no thing called "upvote troll", people LOVE getting upvotes, or they just don't care.
Downvotes are not the same, they express negative feedback, weather it's hate or disagreement, some people will ALWAYS be hurt by it, therefore, it's existence will always cause harm.
And you can't tell people to go because something annoys them, they have friends they bonded with here, and removing it wouldn't cause harm to anyone.
Downvotes are useless because you can always just reply and say: "I disagree, here's why:" instead of click it, always.
That's how I see it at least.
An opinion cannot be wrong. Plus, here is it so you know what everybody means:
* ok its obvious things won't be the same and jennifer w… moreill not justify why she did it and nothing will change but i think something needs to be done with her like the other mods and whoever is in charge of the site have a chat with her about why it happened it really can't go un-ignored anyway hopefully things can be like they were before
* rest my case and call for your demotion. If anyone had half the ounce of courage and determination I had, they would too. This is clearly abuse of power.
* People are starting to hate you and tension is mounting. I gave clear arguments and pointed out facts
* Then YOU decide for selfish reasons to move us ONCE AGAIN after everything the lounge has been through, to a pointless thread that has NOTHING to do with us for NO VALID REASONS.
* Its unfair to be punished for YOUR own personal issue.
* You went against ev… [view original content]
"she needs to realize that people will hate her in this cruel world, and you can't just leave because someone is giving you shit!"
Those are the words of a bully. Disgusting. She has free will, and she can do what she likes.
I'm quite sure if the people in this thread would have discussed the manner peacefully, there'd been a resolution which would have made everyone happy. This hatred leads to nothing.
I'm personally disapointed in how everything went down. I mean, Jennifer thought she was helping by merging those threads, and now she has … morefaced so much ridicule that she wants to quit being a mod? She wasn't at fault here, she had no idea how strong the bonds on the FotD thread were and what she did when merging. So should we blame her? No. She was just trying to do her job. Sorry my fellow FotD friends, but that's how I feel about it.
I'm quite sure if the people in this thread would have discussed the manner peacefully, there'd been a resolution which would have made everyone happy. This hatred leads to nothing.
You're comparing an issue involving global politics to a concentrated Telltale Games forums... Are you completely incapable of logical thinking? Do you not see the difference?
There was no emotional instability coming from Jennifer. She was obviously just fed up with the petty kids trying to make her feel bad. Yes, if this was a much more serious situation maybe I'd agree with you on the notion that you should always try and pull through.
Also... Did you seriously just label Palestine a nation of terrorists? "Go fuck yourself".
The fuck? A BULLY?!
You lost all reason, this is a cruel fucking world, I'm presenting the issues of the present, there's a whole motherf… moreucking nation of terrorists that wants me dead for no reason, and you're calling me a bully?
You're twisting my words, I never forced her to stay, she can go, I'm saying what I think, and it's true, if she wants to stay then you people need to realize that the world won't adapt to you emotional stability, it goes the other way.
Don't educate me on free will, this is the only thing I know about, and I can say that without doubting it.
So please, give me a fucking break, I'm not a bully, this is bullshit.
She didn't of course, but then again, she just left didn't she? And it proved my point, her sanity was pretty messed with right there, and she left because she didn't want to sacrifice her sanity for this place, but that's ok, I don't force her to.
You think this world isn't cruel enough? Look at Israel, where I live, and tell me how uncruel this world is, grow some awareness.
I didn't revere to this as "TWD universe", this world is more cruel than the one in TWD, at least there the enemy isn't as intelligent, and as evil.
She was not obligated to sacrifice her fucking 'sanity' for us. She was meant to simply moderate. And she did.
And no, as much as you mig… moreht want it to be... We're not living in the TWD universe. We're on a forum with a shitty community. I'm sure she has better things to do than take shit from children.
...Why would they? It was just a thread merging and nothing more. They generally trust us to do our job.
Unless you are referring to Jenn… moreifer leaving and not the thread merging, in which case we have a mod forum that Telltale staff sometimes talk to us on - usually the community manager Puzzlebox, who herself is formerly a volunteer moderator.
She didn't of course, but then again, she just left didn't she? And it proved my point, her sanity was pretty messed with right there, and s… morehe left because she didn't want to sacrifice her sanity for this place, but that's ok, I don't force her to.
You think this world isn't cruel enough? Look at Israel, where I live, and tell me how uncruel this world is, grow some awareness.
I didn't revere to this as "TWD universe", this world is more cruel than the one in TWD, at least there the enemy isn't as intelligent, and as evil.
I went home back from school and missed the bus, this one girl standing next to me got pissed and yelled at the driver that she wishes him to get cancer.
Cancer. For a goddamn bus she missed.
So yeah, this world is cruel, it comes in a variety of ways, politics or badly educated kids, even in here people that bully others.
You're comparing an issue involving global politics to a concentrated Telltale Games forums... Are you completely incapable of logical think… moreing? Do you not see the difference?
There was no emotional instability coming from Jennifer. She was obviously just fed up with the petty kids trying to make her feel bad. Yes, if this was a much more serious situation maybe I'd agree with you on the notion that you should always try and pull through.
Also... Did you seriously just label Palestine a nation of terrorists? "Go fuck yourself".
I replied to you two times with valid arguments, yet you choose not to give a statement to those. Look on page 4, there is a long list with the hateful stuff that's been said.
I'll let someone else explain. I'm not going to worthlessly argue with you for any longer. Why are you not prepared to comply with us and change things?
that may even argue with eachother.
That's what the report button exists for.
As for the rest of what you've said, you're dismis… moresing people without giving them a chance. As you said, the only difference is the thread title and some more posts. If you are inclusive to guests as you and other lounge members have prided yourselves on, and if the old threads are inactive as you say they are, then why is this a problem?
I'm personally disapointed in how everything went down. I mean, Jennifer thought she was helping by merging those threads, and now she has … morefaced so much ridicule that she wants to quit being a mod? She wasn't at fault here, she had no idea how strong the bonds on the FotD thread were and what she did when merging. So should we blame her? No. She was just trying to do her job. Sorry my fellow FotD friends, but that's how I feel about it.
Nah, she doesn't have to fucking deal with children over the internet. It's not worth her time.
And I have to say this... Palestine is not a nation of terrorists. Hamas are the terrorists. Your nation is bombing the fuck out of hundreds of innocent people daily.
I'm just showing you the extreme cases.
You want a smaller example? Ok then!
I went home back from school and missed the bus, this one… more girl standing next to me got pissed and yelled at the driver that she wishes him to get cancer.
Cancer. For a goddamn bus she missed.
So yeah, this world is cruel, it comes in a variety of ways, politics or badly educated kids, even in here people that bully others.
I just want to say again how utterly disappointed i am with some of the members in this community, Who cares about your stupid thread. Nobody, it does **NOT **justify bullying. I am sick and tired of the same stupid shit, the entitlement they expressed was laughable. I hope Jennifer comes back. She shouldn't be bullied out of her Mod Job. Absolutely disgusting behavior.
Just think, if we (the FotD community) reacted differently, we would be talking over there right now instead of addressing our disapointment at this sad turn of events.
Just think, if we (the FotD community) reacted differently, we would be talking over there right now instead of addressing our disapointment at this sad turn of events.
I replied to you two times with valid arguments, yet you choose not to give a statement to those. Look on page 4, there is a long list with the hateful stuff that's been said.
Opinions are not equal to facts. An opinion is something that is always subjective, hence cannot be wrong. 2+2=5 isn't an opinion. An opinion might be that One Piece is a bad Manga. It's not right or wrong, it's just a subjective impression.
I think it's best to leave this community for a while...
It's bad enough that one mod left, but now comments are being deleted. (When you start joking (not bad jokes like Kenny) or making a point)
See ya.
Sorry, I phrased it wrong, it's not all of them I know.
Are you kidding me? Where do you live? You know that the media is full of shit, right?
There are 2 sides to the story, I had to fucking hide in a bomb shelter every day because they threaten my being with multiple bombings, day and night.
They were digging tunnels that led to kindegradens, and wanted to suicide bomb those places.
They are hanging their children from their little shirts on open windows just so we won't fucking bomb the shit out of Gaza.
They put their kids' lives on the line to save their own pathetic asses!
But that's ok, ignorance is something I can understand, the media is manipulating you people because the US is in the wrong about the situation, and they don't want to confess their mistakes.
Nah, she doesn't have to fucking deal with children over the internet. It's not worth her time.
And I have to say this... Palestine is no… moret a nation of terrorists. Hamas are the terrorists. Your nation is bombing the fuck out of hundreds of innocent people daily.
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It's their job to delete offensive comments.
That's what the report button exists for.
As for the rest of what you've said, you're dismissing people without giving them a chance. As you said, the only difference is the thread title and some more posts. If you are inclusive to guests as you and other lounge members have prided yourselves on, and if the old threads are inactive as you say they are, then why is this a problem?
Where I disagree is that I don't think keeping it around really harms anyone. It may hurt your pride a little, but that can happen from a negative post. I've seen more hurt over unfriendly posts than downvotes. I just think that if we're allowed to express approval of an idea with upvotes, we should be allowed to express disapproval with downvotes. I think it makes it more fair and honest. I think they should remove all voting if they're going to remove downvotes. I think if a person is willing to take all the praise that people want to give them (in the form of upvotes), they should be willing to take the opposite. Why have voting at all? That's pretty much my point. Just lose the whole system.
Personally, I don't like getting/giving downvotes, but I'm just trying to be objective. I think they do serve a purpose. I don't think everyone necessarily wants to take the time to list the reasons they disagree because that can lead to a long, drawn-out debate that some people may not have the time/interest for. I think we should instead devalue the power of upvotes/downvotes. They're not that big of a deal. They just tally the number of people who agree/disagree with your post. We shouldn't put anymore stock into it than that. I pretty much have learned to ignore them at this point. Otherwise, just lose the voting entirely. I understand why you disagree and your reasons are valid, in my opinion. I just think if we're objectively considering what's fair, it should be all or nothing with the voting.
I think removing anonymity would discourage the mean-spirited trolls who downvote people en masse, and would lead to more honest voting and more discussion. That's my idea for a compromise. I have no idea how hard that would be to implement though (Disqus, a commenting system for news articles does it).
Yes it can.
Hey, he's not bully. We're not bullies. It was her decision to leave.
I'm quite sure if the people in this thread would have discussed the manner peacefully, there'd been a resolution which would have made everyone happy. This hatred leads to nothing.
If you talk about Hitler here, I'm gonna agree with you
You're telling me. Reading those comments was like stepping on broken glass ;-;
You're comparing an issue involving global politics to a concentrated Telltale Games forums... Are you completely incapable of logical thinking? Do you not see the difference?
There was no emotional instability coming from Jennifer. She was obviously just fed up with the petty kids trying to make her feel bad. Yes, if this was a much more serious situation maybe I'd agree with you on the notion that you should always try and pull through.
Also... Did you seriously just label Palestine a nation of terrorists? "Go fuck yourself".
She didn't of course, but then again, she just left didn't she? And it proved my point, her sanity was pretty messed with right there, and she left because she didn't want to sacrifice her sanity for this place, but that's ok, I don't force her to.
You think this world isn't cruel enough? Look at Israel, where I live, and tell me how uncruel this world is, grow some awareness.
I didn't revere to this as "TWD universe", this world is more cruel than the one in TWD, at least there the enemy isn't as intelligent, and as evil.
Great post indeed. Upvote.
Our conversation is gone @aldimon !! Over at new "Clem's slap real title".
Yeah I was talking about Jennifer.
LOL! Stop comparing global politics to this, it's fucking hilarious!
Nice, explain it with pictures instead with valid arguments.
Don't you start now ,sonny!!
Because it was classified as trolling obviously
I'm just showing you the extreme cases.
You want a smaller example? Ok then!
I went home back from school and missed the bus, this one girl standing next to me got pissed and yelled at the driver that she wishes him to get cancer.
Cancer. For a goddamn bus she missed.
So yeah, this world is cruel, it comes in a variety of ways, politics or badly educated kids, even in here people that bully others.
I replied to you two times with valid arguments, yet you choose not to give a statement to those. Look on page 4, there is a long list with the hateful stuff that's been said.
I'll let someone else explain. I'm not going to worthlessly argue with you for any longer. Why are you not prepared to comply with us and change things?
Dafuq?
I agree with you man. I'm disappointed too.
Explain to me how an opinion can be wrong. Please.
Nah, she doesn't have to fucking deal with children over the internet. It's not worth her time.
And I have to say this... Palestine is not a nation of terrorists. Hamas are the terrorists. Your nation is bombing the fuck out of hundreds of innocent people daily.
I just want to say again how utterly disappointed i am with some of the members in this community, Who cares about your stupid thread. Nobody, it does **NOT **justify bullying. I am sick and tired of the same stupid shit, the entitlement they expressed was laughable. I hope Jennifer comes back. She shouldn't be bullied out of her Mod Job. Absolutely disgusting behavior.
I think it's best to leave this community for a while...
It's bad enough that one mod left, but now comments are being deleted. (When you start joking (not bad jokes like Kenny) or making a point)
See ya.
Just think, if we (the FotD community) reacted differently, we would be talking over there right now instead of addressing our disapointment at this sad turn of events.
Because she merged it with othe two dead(recently revived)threads.
They got butthurt their thread got Merged...
I know right? I wish things could have turned out differently.
It can be wrong because it's not a fact.
I'll look, even though I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about..
Haha. So true. See? Sometimes the downvotes serve a really good purpose. :-)
Opinions are not equal to facts. An opinion is something that is always subjective, hence cannot be wrong. 2+2=5 isn't an opinion. An opinion might be that One Piece is a bad Manga. It's not right or wrong, it's just a subjective impression.
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You are such a sweetheart....
Hopefully the mods will delete the troll ^ comment. If I can't joke ,apparently others can now >:| pouty face
Well then, she's gone now isn't she?
Sorry, I phrased it wrong, it's not all of them I know.
Are you kidding me? Where do you live? You know that the media is full of shit, right?
There are 2 sides to the story, I had to fucking hide in a bomb shelter every day because they threaten my being with multiple bombings, day and night.
They were digging tunnels that led to kindegradens, and wanted to suicide bomb those places.
They are hanging their children from their little shirts on open windows just so we won't fucking bomb the shit out of Gaza.
They put their kids' lives on the line to save their own pathetic asses!
But that's ok, ignorance is something I can understand, the media is manipulating you people because the US is in the wrong about the situation, and they don't want to confess their mistakes.