Movement is GOOD: Yes! Rights blacks are deprived of finally being brought to proper authorities' attention! It's also a good way for promoting safe protesting, rather than outbreaks of violence. It's such a winning situation!
Movement is BAD: Many activists thrive upon the media and it's news. The media outlets are paid by views on their page, so hey! We have a nice little movement going on here! Better fuel the fire for more money!
Made up case- An African American minority is pulled over by the police. He's told get out of the car for being suspected of a hit and run. What does the minority do? Stays in his car, pleading that he shouldn't have to get out of his car for the authorities to ensure he's not a hazard. Enforcers surround the vehicle, telling him to keep his hands in visibility. What he should not do is reach for an item without informing the officers; hey man, you could have a gun down there. What he should do is allow them to perform a full body and vehicle search, resulting in less drama and complications.
Let's say the man reaches between the seat without informing the arms drawn police officers. "Hands in the air!" They scream, but he continues to reach. A round is fired, the man is hit in a critical area.
There's your story, now let's be the media about it:
Title: Black Man Shot By Police Officer
Article Summary: African American (First, Last) was shot and thrown from his vehicle on (date). Witnesses say they saw the police officer forcibly throwing the victim to the floor as he pleaded for mercy. A bullet was fired into the man's head, after ruthlessly beating him. The bullet of course killing him upon impact.
They make it up, people. Stop justifying your acts with the internet.
The problem with it is that it serves to further separate people from each other - and that's the problem when you put a racial name before a movement.
It was the same thing with "Whites only" resturants, bathrooms, and etc. Such things served to separate people, and it was good that such things were put a stop too.
But now in the 21st century, we have things like all black churches, and all black news stations, all black TV shows, and yet nobody sees a problem with it. But yet if you dare to have an all whites anything, people immediately start screaming racism.
Why can't people just get the fact that ALL lives matter? It DOES NOT MATTER what your skin color, racial, or social background is.
England doesn't have a problem with racial discrimination. So why the hell do such problems persist here in America?
Personally, I think a lot of people will claim racial persecution - and that's not to say that racial persecution isn't legitimate - because they think they deserve special rights. In other words, it appeals to their sense of entitlement.
All lives matter, regardless of race, ethnicity, religion or sexual orientation. We are sadly at war with one another. People protesting over everything and creating havoc. Children growing up and seeing this on a daily bases. Can't even go to the store without trouble. I agree, there are some individuals that abuse power and have become corrupted individuals but please....pulling out the race card only makes it worse....
There is a freaking protest going on in a city just 45 minutes from my house because of this bs. I never thought this would ever happen in my lifetime, yet here it is....
These are difficult times. I'm all up for voices being heard. Everyone working together to solve problems but to shoot innocent people down? Blow up nightclubs? Place hateful and derogatory words into our minds and everyday vocabulary? Blame EVERYTHING on race?
My wife is black. She was appalled at the news and all the protest occurring. This can only hurt. Create more issues and continue adding gas to the fire. We all need to come together as ONE-not in separate categories-but as one group and overcome this disgusting hate that is looming over our heads. She and I agree that this needs to happen; we'd hate for our three young girls to grow up in a world that targets individuals, labels and immediately create chaos. To fear going outside or BEING YOURSELF! What happened? Are we really going to let a few bad eggs ruin what we've struggled to overcome for years? To be better than our ancestors and their decisions?
All lives matter. And we need to all stand together and show this.
You're pretty fucking ignorant if you think that "article summary" applies to all people who are being beaten and killed by police just because of their skin colour.
Movement is GOOD: Yes! Rights blacks are deprived of finally being brought to proper authorities' attention! It's also a good way for promot… moreing safe protesting, rather than outbreaks of violence. It's such a winning situation!
Movement is BAD: Many activists thrive upon the media and it's news. The media outlets are paid by views on their page, so hey! We have a nice little movement going on here! Better fuel the fire for more money!
Made up case- An African American minority is pulled over by the police. He's told get out of the car for being suspected of a hit and run. What does the minority do? Stays in his car, pleading that he shouldn't have to get out of his car for the authorities to ensure he's not a hazard. Enforcers surround the vehicle, telling him to keep his hands in visibility. What he should not do is reach for an item without informing the officers; hey man, you could have a gun down there. What he should do is allow the… [view original content]
Agreed. We need to stop identifying ourselves by our race or gender. Police brutality affects everyone, and turning it into a racial issue when it isn't is only going to divide races further.
The problem with it is that it serves to further separate people from each other - and that's the problem when you put a racial name before … morea movement.
It was the same thing with "Whites only" resturants, bathrooms, and etc. Such things served to separate people, and it was good that such things were put a stop too.
But now in the 21st century, we have things like all black churches, and all black news stations, all black TV shows, and yet nobody sees a problem with it. But yet if you dare to have an all whites anything, people immediately start screaming racism.
Why can't people just get the fact that ALL lives matter? It DOES NOT MATTER what your skin color, racial, or social background is.
England doesn't have a problem with racial discrimination. So why the hell do such problems persist here in America?
Personally, I think a lot of people will claim racial persecution - and that's not to say that racial persecution isn't le… [view original content]
Another thing that we need to remember is that policeman are basically just average citizens who want to get paid for doing their job, and be able to go home to their families at the end of the day, safe and sound.
Just like the average citizen, they aldo have the right, both legally and ethically, to protect themselves from harm. Their lives are just as important as the people they are payed to serve and protect.
Yes there are crooked cops, and yes there are people on the police force who have absolutely no business being there. There are people on the police force who should be in jail for the stuff that they do.
But there are also honest cops who do their jobs for the right reasons. People that actually want to make a difference. That is not to say that they do their job perfectly, nevertheless their intentions are good.
Just because there is one rotten apple, does not mean that the entire barrel is spoiled. Or just because maybe a man acted in poor character, that does not mean that his son is going to follow in his footsteps.
Plus, they deserve respect because they're doing a job that most people are not willing to do. They are willing to Serve and Protect others, which means putting their lives on the line for other people. Most people are not willing to do that!
It is a shame that policemen in general get blamed no matter what they do. Every choice, and decisions they make, is always wrong.
The way I see it, before anyone dares to pass judgement on somebody else, they should first think about what if it was them in that position, what they would have done.
There's an old saying, "Don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes."
Agreed. We need to stop identifying ourselves by our race or gender. Police brutality affects everyone, and turning it into a racial issue when it isn't is only going to divide races further.
There is a blm rally outside my house RIGHT NOW, I wasnt expecting it and ironically because of the aggression in their voices and the amount of inaudible screaming I legit thought it was some kind of lynch mob
Im in england they dont need to act this way, why the fuck are they hanging off americas coat tails
Nope, if you'd bother to read what I said instead of being insulted, it's the media's exaggeration. Hence:
Article
Summary.
In fact this whole write was to point out what you're doing right now, and that's making a big deal out of something that's not. What the internet says, is NOT what actually happened. Believe it.
You're pretty fucking ignorant if you think that "article summary" applies to all people who are being beaten and killed by police just because of their skin colour.
Criticism of BLM is fine, but please make it to where your criticisms add to genuine discussion. Please don't make pointless additions to the thread with jokes or memes, and keep your criticisms in the form of actual discussions instead.
Also, judging by comments I've seen, I need to remind people to read the Community Guide to Decency. Criticism is perfectly fine, but it should be expressed in a civil manner and should attempt to add to a genuine discussion.
An auspicious time. I wound up in a BLM march today. It was a pretty intense experience, but I have a bit more respect for the movement now.
AMA, If you like.
Also, judging by comments I've seen, I need to remind people to read the Community Guide to Decency. Criticism is perfectly fine, but it should be expressed in a civil manner and should attempt to add to a genuine discussion.
damn he's onto me, i better switch over to blind's account and ban him
(Alright - now that I'm back in my Blind Sniper account, how should I go about banning him?)
Chinese care the least about the lives of Chinese though, heck even during the 2nd Sino Japanese war the Communist and Nationalist Chinese can be considered more responsible for more deaths of Chinese than the evil Japanese invaders. Heck I think 900,000 Chinese enlisted in the Japanese Army even and a lot of Chinese viewed the Japanese invasion as a way to end the decades long Civil War that had been going on and off since the Empire was over thrown. Of course the CCP and Taiwan will refuse to admit all that. lol
Chinese care the least about the lives of Chinese though, heck even during the 2nd Sino Japanese war the Communist and Nationalist Chinese c… morean be considered more responsible for more deaths of Chinese than the evil Japanese invaders. Heck I think 900,000 Chinese enlisted in the Japanese Army even and a lot of Chinese viewed the Japanese invasion as a way to end the decades long Civil War that had been going on and off since the Empire was over thrown. Of course the CCP and Taiwan will refuse to admit all that. lol
I kind of differ to most of the points raised in this thread, although 'all lives matter', I don't like the idea of 'removing' what identifies our races, colours etc and just treating us all as the 'one' human. Truth is, we ARE different, many black folk live very different lives to whites and vice versa simply based on upbringing, social statuses and so forth. This is just a basic truth many find hard to grasp.
I personally believe the solution to the problem of racism isn't removing the idea of race itself, but respecting these differences we have. Everyone is unique, every race is unique and has its own distinct features, or even place in the world and society. It's just how life is, I don't think we should remove these social barriers, but alter them (drastically of course) to respect the beauty of our differences. If that makes sense.
In my opinion, treating all races as a whole is rather asinine, and a concept I don't believe will ever work in this world.
Respect culture, respect religion, respect appearance, as cheesy as it sounds we're all on this world together but we are all still uniquely different...and THAT is what should be respected.
Martin Luther King would be rolling in his grave if he saw those people. It really seems that they are fulelling racial tensions for some political gain I'm surprised there are many people that don't see it.
Race is irrelevant, its just few genes that determine melanin gene expression in skin melanocytes of epidermis if we are talking about black people. Thats all. How is it relevant in the modern world?
I kind of differ to most of the points raised in this thread, although 'all lives matter', I don't like the idea of 'removing' what identifi… morees our races, colours etc and just treating us all as the 'one' human. Truth is, we ARE different, many black folk live very different lives to whites and vice versa simply based on upbringing, social statuses and so forth. This is just a basic truth many find hard to grasp.
I personally believe the solution to the problem of racism isn't removing the idea of race itself, but respecting these differences we have. Everyone is unique, every race is unique and has its own distinct features, or even place in the world and society. It's just how life is, I don't think we should remove these social barriers, but alter them (drastically of course) to respect the beauty of our differences. If that makes sense.
In my opinion, treating all races as a whole is rather asinine, and a concept I don't believe will eve… [view original content]
We marched and chanted a mile to a central intersection. There was photo ops, more sloganeering and general protest. Pretty calm, happy atmosphere. As one of the few white guys, I got a couple dirty looks, but people were otherwise pleased to have me.
Things heated up when some assholes came to throw bottles and hit a teen girl in the head. They were chased and roughed up by some people, but order was restored pretty quickly by the march leaders. the relationship between the black community and police here is pretty good, so there were no problems on that front.
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Movement is GOOD: Yes! Rights blacks are deprived of finally being brought to proper authorities' attention! It's also a good way for promoting safe protesting, rather than outbreaks of violence. It's such a winning situation!
Movement is BAD: Many activists thrive upon the media and it's news. The media outlets are paid by views on their page, so hey! We have a nice little movement going on here! Better fuel the fire for more money!
Made up case- An African American minority is pulled over by the police. He's told get out of the car for being suspected of a hit and run. What does the minority do? Stays in his car, pleading that he shouldn't have to get out of his car for the authorities to ensure he's not a hazard. Enforcers surround the vehicle, telling him to keep his hands in visibility. What he should not do is reach for an item without informing the officers; hey man, you could have a gun down there. What he should do is allow them to perform a full body and vehicle search, resulting in less drama and complications.
Let's say the man reaches between the seat without informing the arms drawn police officers. "Hands in the air!" They scream, but he continues to reach. A round is fired, the man is hit in a critical area.
There's your story, now let's be the media about it:
Title: Black Man Shot By Police Officer
Article Summary: African American (First, Last) was shot and thrown from his vehicle on (date). Witnesses say they saw the police officer forcibly throwing the victim to the floor as he pleaded for mercy. A bullet was fired into the man's head, after ruthlessly beating him. The bullet of course killing him upon impact.
They make it up, people. Stop justifying your acts with the internet.
The problem with it is that it serves to further separate people from each other - and that's the problem when you put a racial name before a movement.
It was the same thing with "Whites only" resturants, bathrooms, and etc. Such things served to separate people, and it was good that such things were put a stop too.
But now in the 21st century, we have things like all black churches, and all black news stations, all black TV shows, and yet nobody sees a problem with it. But yet if you dare to have an all whites anything, people immediately start screaming racism.
Why can't people just get the fact that ALL lives matter? It DOES NOT MATTER what your skin color, racial, or social background is.
England doesn't have a problem with racial discrimination. So why the hell do such problems persist here in America?
Personally, I think a lot of people will claim racial persecution - and that's not to say that racial persecution isn't legitimate - because they think they deserve special rights. In other words, it appeals to their sense of entitlement.
All lives matter, regardless of race, ethnicity, religion or sexual orientation. We are sadly at war with one another. People protesting over everything and creating havoc. Children growing up and seeing this on a daily bases. Can't even go to the store without trouble. I agree, there are some individuals that abuse power and have become corrupted individuals but please....pulling out the race card only makes it worse....
There is a freaking protest going on in a city just 45 minutes from my house because of this bs. I never thought this would ever happen in my lifetime, yet here it is....
These are difficult times. I'm all up for voices being heard. Everyone working together to solve problems but to shoot innocent people down? Blow up nightclubs? Place hateful and derogatory words into our minds and everyday vocabulary? Blame EVERYTHING on race?
My wife is black. She was appalled at the news and all the protest occurring. This can only hurt. Create more issues and continue adding gas to the fire. We all need to come together as ONE-not in separate categories-but as one group and overcome this disgusting hate that is looming over our heads. She and I agree that this needs to happen; we'd hate for our three young girls to grow up in a world that targets individuals, labels and immediately create chaos. To fear going outside or BEING YOURSELF! What happened? Are we really going to let a few bad eggs ruin what we've struggled to overcome for years? To be better than our ancestors and their decisions?
All lives matter. And we need to all stand together and show this.
simply because black lives are the focus of the problem right now.
You're pretty fucking ignorant if you think that "article summary" applies to all people who are being beaten and killed by police just because of their skin colour.
Because they believe they are more threatened currently and need to spread that problem all around.
Agreed. We need to stop identifying ourselves by our race or gender. Police brutality affects everyone, and turning it into a racial issue when it isn't is only going to divide races further.
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Another thing that we need to remember is that policeman are basically just average citizens who want to get paid for doing their job, and be able to go home to their families at the end of the day, safe and sound.
Just like the average citizen, they aldo have the right, both legally and ethically, to protect themselves from harm. Their lives are just as important as the people they are payed to serve and protect.
Yes there are crooked cops, and yes there are people on the police force who have absolutely no business being there. There are people on the police force who should be in jail for the stuff that they do.
But there are also honest cops who do their jobs for the right reasons. People that actually want to make a difference. That is not to say that they do their job perfectly, nevertheless their intentions are good.
Just because there is one rotten apple, does not mean that the entire barrel is spoiled. Or just because maybe a man acted in poor character, that does not mean that his son is going to follow in his footsteps.
Plus, they deserve respect because they're doing a job that most people are not willing to do. They are willing to Serve and Protect others, which means putting their lives on the line for other people. Most people are not willing to do that!
It is a shame that policemen in general get blamed no matter what they do. Every choice, and decisions they make, is always wrong.
The way I see it, before anyone dares to pass judgement on somebody else, they should first think about what if it was them in that position, what they would have done.
There's an old saying, "Don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes."
There is a blm rally outside my house RIGHT NOW, I wasnt expecting it and ironically because of the aggression in their voices and the amount of inaudible screaming I legit thought it was some kind of lynch mob
Im in england they dont need to act this way, why the fuck are they hanging off americas coat tails
Nope, if you'd bother to read what I said instead of being insulted, it's the media's exaggeration. Hence:
Article
Summary.
In fact this whole write was to point out what you're doing right now, and that's making a big deal out of something that's not. What the internet says, is NOT what actually happened. Believe it.
Really? I thought this was just preying on racist alt-right stereotypes and memes.
And Star Wars, for whatever reason...
Criticism of BLM is fine, but please make it to where your criticisms add to genuine discussion. Please don't make pointless additions to the thread with jokes or memes, and keep your criticisms in the form of actual discussions instead.
Also, judging by comments I've seen, I need to remind people to read the Community Guide to Decency. Criticism is perfectly fine, but it should be expressed in a civil manner and should attempt to add to a genuine discussion.
An auspicious time. I wound up in a BLM march today. It was a pretty intense experience, but I have a bit more respect for the movement now.
AMA, If you like.
What happened?
The BLM idiots have done nothing for black people. They are a violent, disruptive group that needs to disperse.
Great cause, Mediocre execution.
@AshleyC1
Are...are you and Blind Sniper the same person?
Of course not! Don't be silly!
damn he's onto me, i better switch over to blind's account and ban him
all lives matter except chinese, even tho i am half blood chinese
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He's not completely right imo, but he's definitely not wrong on many points.
(Alright - now that I'm back in my Blind Sniper account, how should I go about banning him?)
I was joking ._.
Nonsense - you know too many secrets now, and you must pay for that!
Muhahaha!
Not if I kill myself first, I won't!
Well this escalated quickly :P
Ah, what a day...
Don't worry, I'm not really gonna kill myself.
Blind, ya still gonna ban me?
If so, I'm sorry
Eh, what? I was joking the whole time, just as you were.
Wow. We got awesome senses of humor!
Chinese care the least about the lives of Chinese though, heck even during the 2nd Sino Japanese war the Communist and Nationalist Chinese can be considered more responsible for more deaths of Chinese than the evil Japanese invaders. Heck I think 900,000 Chinese enlisted in the Japanese Army even and a lot of Chinese viewed the Japanese invasion as a way to end the decades long Civil War that had been going on and off since the Empire was over thrown. Of course the CCP and Taiwan will refuse to admit all that. lol
nah chinese eat dogs and i hate that much with passion
I kind of differ to most of the points raised in this thread, although 'all lives matter', I don't like the idea of 'removing' what identifies our races, colours etc and just treating us all as the 'one' human. Truth is, we ARE different, many black folk live very different lives to whites and vice versa simply based on upbringing, social statuses and so forth. This is just a basic truth many find hard to grasp.
I personally believe the solution to the problem of racism isn't removing the idea of race itself, but respecting these differences we have. Everyone is unique, every race is unique and has its own distinct features, or even place in the world and society. It's just how life is, I don't think we should remove these social barriers, but alter them (drastically of course) to respect the beauty of our differences. If that makes sense.
In my opinion, treating all races as a whole is rather asinine, and a concept I don't believe will ever work in this world.
Respect culture, respect religion, respect appearance, as cheesy as it sounds we're all on this world together but we are all still uniquely different...and THAT is what should be respected.
Martin Luther King would be rolling in his grave if he saw those people. It really seems that they are fulelling racial tensions for some political gain I'm surprised there are many people that don't see it.
Race is irrelevant, its just few genes that determine melanin gene expression in skin melanocytes of epidermis if we are talking about black people. Thats all. How is it relevant in the modern world?
Dogs are just the tip of the iceberg. This is what actually disturbs me the most. http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/23/asia/china-organ-harvesting/
they are fucking sick literally it's better to be dead than red anyways
We marched and chanted a mile to a central intersection. There was photo ops, more sloganeering and general protest. Pretty calm, happy atmosphere. As one of the few white guys, I got a couple dirty looks, but people were otherwise pleased to have me.
Things heated up when some assholes came to throw bottles and hit a teen girl in the head. They were chased and roughed up by some people, but order was restored pretty quickly by the march leaders. the relationship between the black community and police here is pretty good, so there were no problems on that front.
me after reading all the "#AllLivesMatter" comments