I'm curious about the presence of beer at Monroe.
* Why did they have so much beer and did they also have an Ice maker?
* Were the lea… moreders and perhaps the citizens of Monroe perpetually drunk?
* Did the presence and tolerance of alcohol in Monroe contribute to incidents such as the Mobjack massacre?
Had Sarah lived past the Observation Deck Defense and maybe even the Russian Shotout, who do you think she would've sided with in the in-group disputes, if anyone?
I believe that she would've sided with whatever Clementine does, as Clem is essentially her closest friend by that point, or at least figure of some sort. If Clem can hypothetically not influence this in your scenario, then...I don't know? Sarah was hit by Carver and says she doesn't ever want to hurt someone, but then again she lost her father and has no guideline necessarily, then possibly join the rest of the group that randomly feels bad for Arvo after what he does (there's no justification for giving Arvo the mercy they did, especially when Arvo wouldn't reciprocate the favor of not being stolen from in my canon story). So it's really a tough choice as it's quite hard to predict Sarah's morals, but I definitely would not imagine her leaving Clem, A.J., Kenny, and Jane.
Had Sarah lived past the Observation Deck Defense and maybe even the Russian Shotout, who do you think she would've sided with in the in-group disputes, if anyone?
...I guess?
At the very least, everyone's motivations would be more unified and understandable, not to mention Kate would get to show what she's made of.
I was only saying that, because the possibility of a scene where you have to comfort a dying child could be a good one
it's not one that has happened in a telltale game yet
I found it in an older thread where @lilacbloom posted it as part of a little comic. And yes, it's the latest entry in my funny/weird faces line--were you not here when I did the Jane-faced Clem one?
I found it in an older thread where @lilacbloom posted it as part of a little comic. And yes, it's the latest entry in my funny/weird faces line--were you not here when I did the Jane-faced Clem one?
What do you think of Conrad post episode 3? I think he's easily becoming one of my favorites this season. The only mistake was the writing of him in the first episode and making him determinant because it limits his character development and potential but I sincerely hope there is a way to keep him around for how ever long we want. It would be an interesting touch
Can someone convey if episode 3 is improved to my standards without spoiling? I'm sure OP of this thread knows what I'm talking about, but for anyone else:
Is Clementine still dark, impulsive, and unchanged by decisions? I would love to know this because she's primarily what I care about in this series, and god damn, season 3 has blemished her character very much so. I'm not even sure I want to play the rest of this season, I'd prefer to keep my seasons 1 and 2 mindset and pretend season 3 isn't canon.
Is Javier's family still annoying as usual?
How is the plot and writing in general? Good or bad? I thought episodes 1 and 2 were pretty damn bad.
How long is the episode generally?
Do you believe it's worth playing? Will it save the season?
Just some quick questions I have, and I'm sure some people saw the leaked episode already, but please refrain from spoilers in case I take interest in actually playing it. If it's bad, I guess I'll be playing seasons 1 and 2 perpetually for my life, because they're the only seasons that always make me smile, and for fucks sake, they didn't ruin Clem's character of all.
Hey there, Spodes! I've been stewing over the episode for a bit, so I think I can answer your questions.
Her situation is somewhat explained here and the few times she gets like that are justified, for the most part. Though there is one line that seriously made me groan. As for the decisions, I wanna say I don't think so.
Depends on what you found annoying about them, to be honest, but no. In fact, let's just say that Kate and especially Gabe use their screentime to be a little more understandable/endearing. But again, that's just me. Also, while David is sure to be a mixed to positive experience collectively, I'm not really sure what to say about Javier himself other than he does things. And that's as much as I can say with or without spoilers, unfortunately; gonna need to think about that one quite a bit to form any real opinion.
For those who weren't apathetic to begin with, yes, it has improved. Imo, not only does it address many of the issues with the first episode to some extent, but the story itself fulfilled my wishes quality-wise and then some.
I've heard an estimate of anywhere between 70 and 90 minutes, depending on your choices. I personally feel the pacing is pretty good despite that, though.
Eeh...that depends on the individual, unfortunately. I have seen a somewhat negative comment or two that mentioned the dialogue being cringeworthy in places and the storytelling being constant to the point of feeling busy when it's all said and done.
So, generally an improvement, but how much so (as elements or as a whole) is up to you to decide.
Can someone convey if episode 3 is improved to my standards without spoiling? I'm sure OP of this thread knows what I'm talking about, but f… moreor anyone else:
* Is Clementine still dark, impulsive, and unchanged by decisions? I would love to know this because she's primarily what I care about in this series, and god damn, season 3 has blemished her character very much so. I'm not even sure I want to play the rest of this season, I'd prefer to keep my seasons 1 and 2 mindset and pretend season 3 isn't canon.
* Is Javier's family still annoying as usual?
* How is the plot and writing in general? Good or bad? I thought episodes 1 and 2 were pretty damn bad.
* How long is the episode generally?
* Do you believe it's worth playing? Will it save the season?
Just some quick questions I have, and I'm sure some people saw the leaked episode already, but please refrain from spoilers in case I take interest in actually playing it. If it's bad,… [view original content]
I think Episode 3 is an improvement from the first two episodes, but it's still lacking a lot. Clementine is pretty limited in this episode and nothing really changes about her. There are some cool scenes with her though. It's definitely a lot more focused on Javier's family than Clem unfortunately. I think his family is a lot less annoying but then again this episode is primarily focused on David and Javier so there isn't a lot of Kate or Gabe. The plot is okay. I think a lot of theories about this episode came true so therefore the plot isn't as exciting, but it's still interesting enough to see where it goes. The writing is alright in my opinion. Some lines may seem cheesy but I didn't really notice any awful writing. The episode is short. It's about an hour and 30 minutes which was the length of the first episode. I think you should wait and see for yourself if it's worth playing tbh. I think it's interesting enough to play story wise but there are quite a few turn offs. I would say the short episode length is something that would keep me from playing and the fact that there is no character development really. Unfortunately only a few characters get the most screen time, while other characters are just off screen which is really frustrating. If this episode did have equal screen time for everyone and was longer than I would definitely suggest playing it.But this episode focuses more on plot rather than character.
Can someone convey if episode 3 is improved to my standards without spoiling? I'm sure OP of this thread knows what I'm talking about, but f… moreor anyone else:
* Is Clementine still dark, impulsive, and unchanged by decisions? I would love to know this because she's primarily what I care about in this series, and god damn, season 3 has blemished her character very much so. I'm not even sure I want to play the rest of this season, I'd prefer to keep my seasons 1 and 2 mindset and pretend season 3 isn't canon.
* Is Javier's family still annoying as usual?
* How is the plot and writing in general? Good or bad? I thought episodes 1 and 2 were pretty damn bad.
* How long is the episode generally?
* Do you believe it's worth playing? Will it save the season?
Just some quick questions I have, and I'm sure some people saw the leaked episode already, but please refrain from spoilers in case I take interest in actually playing it. If it's bad,… [view original content]
Her situation is somewhat explained here and the few times she gets like that are justified, for the most part. Though there is one line that seriously made me groan. As for the decisions, I wanna say I don't think so.
Well god damnit, looks like Clem is going to be ruined this season...which could've been avoided if they simply made her the playable character only honestly, then we'd have determinant Eli, non-edgy remarks, etc.
Depends on what you found annoying about them, to be honest, but no. In fact, let's just say that Kate and especially use their screentime to be a little more understandable/endearing. But again, that's just me.
Oh, I found Kate and Gabe to be annoying as hell, especially when Kate wants to smoke weed, run to an obviously dead Mariana (I'm sure Mari didn't want them to run to her in this situation), and in general I just don't find her character very enjoyable, Gabe is just edgy and incompetent (Kate is also incompetent, but not as much).
For those who weren't apathetic to begin with, yes, it has improved. Imo, not only does it address many of the issues with the first episode to some extent, but the story itself fulfilled my wishes quality-wise and then some.
Hmm, I kinda want to play the episode, but then again they haven't fixed Clementine which is what I honestly care about most, so who knows. It's depressing to see Clem in her state, and I condemn most of her behavior this season, it's not warranted as well, so it all just piles up. I don't know why the writers thought making Clementine a cliche """badass""" this season was a good idea, she aspired much more in season 2, but seems to have no real showing of maturity in this season compared to the others, it's simply just...abysmal.
I've heard an estimate of anywhere between 70 and 90 minutes, depending on your choices. I personally feel the pacing is pretty good despite that, though.
An hour and thirty minutes isn't bad, but...70? I'm guessing you'd have to really rush through to attain that, but I search everything and do any action I can to extend the time each playthrough, even when I know what it does, so hopefully it's sustainable. Even in season 2 the episodes felt quite long, but that was due to there not being as many long puzzles probably, but I was fine with season 2 regardless of the -30 minutes sometimes, plus they also went over that 1 hour 30 minute mark multiple times. Eh, we'll see if season 3 can improve it just a bit so it's consistently long, but then again, I haven't played it myself so I'm not going to judge just yet regarding this subject.
Eeh...that depends on the individual, unfortunately. I have seen a somewhat negative comment or two that mentioned the dialogue being cringeworthy in places and the storytelling being constant to the point of feeling busy when it's all said and done.
I actually believe the "cringey dialogue" thing, it's not something I discuss much, but most notably when Clem says "We're all victims", that was just so damn out of character in her voice, it did make me cringe a bit. Also Javier has this emotion, but for me it's hard to feel it when I don't care about his family, so there probably will be some cringey dialogue here and there. I did find some of the teaser trailer cringy when he was about to kill Badger, which I'm guessing is a determinant choice.
So, generally an improvement, but how much so (as elements or as a whole) is up to you to decide.
Yeah, I expected an improvement from episodes 1 and 2, but with Clementine not showing improvement of her actual character, I don't think I want to play season 3 at all...and I feel like they're never going to put her back on track. There's too much wrong with Clem this season in my opinion for me to want to play it, from the character model, to her out-of-character self, it's sad to see the forced transition, and I'd much rather end my canon story at season 2 where she was still that happy, moral, adorable, responsible, mature, etc. (I could go on for a long ass time okay) person who didn't wake up, murder someone out of impusle, and want someone to cover up. Actually shit, I just noticed I'm ranting, not going to further this. Sorry for the essay.
Hey there, Spodes! I've been stewing over the episode for a bit, so I think I can answer your questions.
* Her situation is somewhat ex… moreplained here and the few times she gets like that are justified, for the most part. Though there is one line that seriously made me groan. As for the decisions, I wanna say I don't think so.
* Depends on what you found annoying about them, to be honest, but no. In fact, let's just say that Kate and especially Gabe use their screentime to be a little more understandable/endearing. But again, that's just me. Also, while David is sure to be a mixed to positive experience collectively, I'm not really sure what to say about Javier himself other than he does things. And that's as much as I can say with or without spoilers, unfortunately; gonna need to think about that one quite a bit to form any real opinion.
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Clementine is pretty limited in this episode and nothing really changes about her.
:^(, yeah probably not playing this.
I read the rest of your response though, and it looks like they threw "character development" and "hubs" out of the equation mostly. I kind of want to try the episode out, but then again, I'd have to start actually thinking about season 3 as a canon story, because right now I've played seasons 1 and 2 not too long ago (weeks/1 month ago?), and that's still fresh in my mind, I also had a happy Kenny ending in which they discarded him as an unimportant character completely, so much that I honestly didn't feel too much emotion/didn't even tear when he was dying. Kenny's death was simply too quick and forced for me to care, but in a way, he's alive for me since I'm still in seasons 1 and 2's canon story, and season 3 is that one extra child that no one gives a damn about. I don't really know where I'm going with this or if it made any sense, anyways, thanks for the response.
I think Episode 3 is an improvement from the first two episodes, but it's still lacking a lot. Clementine is pretty limited in this episode … moreand nothing really changes about her. There are some cool scenes with her though. It's definitely a lot more focused on Javier's family than Clem unfortunately. I think his family is a lot less annoying but then again this episode is primarily focused on David and Javier so there isn't a lot of Kate or Gabe. The plot is okay. I think a lot of theories about this episode came true so therefore the plot isn't as exciting, but it's still interesting enough to see where it goes. The writing is alright in my opinion. Some lines may seem cheesy but I didn't really notice any awful writing. The episode is short. It's about an hour and 30 minutes which was the length of the first episode. I think you should wait and see for yourself if it's worth playing tbh. I think it's interesting enough to play story wise bu… [view original content]
I see you responded while I was editting out a few issues, but whatever.
I don't know why the writers thought making Clementine a cliche """badass""" this season was a good idea
Because it's what they saw the fans wanted since Season 2 began and they just took it to a logical extreme.
most notably when Clem says "We're all victims", that was just so damn out of character in her voice, it did make me cringe a bit.
Oh trust me, the line I alluded to isn't much better, likely shoutout/continuity or not.
I did find some of the teaser trailer cringy when he was about to kill Badger, which I'm guessing is a determinant choice.
It is. I don't think that's spoiling anything, especially given the context of what that entails.
Yeah, I expected an improvement from episodes 1 and 2, but with Clementine not showing improvement of her actual character, I don't think I want to play season 3 at all...and I feel like they're never going to put her back on track. There's too much wrong with Clem this season in my opinion for me to want to play it, from the character model, to her out-of-character self, it's sad to see the forced transition, and I'd much rather end my canon story at season 2 where she was still that happy, moral, adorable, responsible, mature, etc. (I could go on for a long ass time okay) person who didn't wake up, murder someone out of impusle, and want someone to cover up. Actually shit, I just noticed I'm ranting, not going to further this. Sorry for the essay.
It's fine. Personally, aside from that one line and maybe another moment or two I may have forgotten, those aspects are relatively played down, so there's that much.
Her situation is somewhat explained here and the few times she gets like that are justified, for the most part. Though there is one line tha… moret seriously made me groan. As for the decisions, I wanna say I don't think so.
Well god damnit, looks like Clem is going to be ruined this season...which could've been avoided if they simply made her the playable character only honestly, then we'd have determinant Eli, non-edgy remarks, etc.
Depends on what you found annoying about them, to be honest, but no. In fact, let's just say that Kate and especially use their screentime to be a little more understandable/endearing. But again, that's just me.
Oh, I found Kate and Gabe to be annoying as hell, especially when Kate wants to smoke weed, run to an obviously dead Mariana (I'm sure Mari didn't want them to run to her in this situation), and in general I just don't find her character very enjoyable, Gabe is just edgy and incompetent (… [view original content]
Is Clementine still dark, impulsive, and unchanged by decisions? I would love to know this because she's primarily what I care about in this series, and god damn, season 3 has blemished her character very much so. I'm not even sure I want to play the rest of this season, I'd prefer to keep my seasons 1 and 2 mindset and pretend season 3 isn't canon.
I don't think so, at least not in my opinion. Without saying too much she does explain why she feels the way she does in the episode which kinda justifies it, but I saw that more as the writers having no idea how to scrub that dirty spot clean from the previous episodes. She's roughly the same but she doesn't swear at least, unless you want her to, which is a big improvement for me. If she was a 'Janiac' the first two episodes then I'd say she's definitely more like Kenny in ep3. Sort of.
Is Javier's family still annoying as usual?
There's a determinant scene you can get in EP3 which gives Gabe some admirability which I liked. Kate sort of... 180's almost. In a well written way imo.
How is the plot and writing in general? Good or bad? I thought episodes 1 and 2 were pretty damn bad.
Much better. It's still a bit meandering at times like in S2 but it has actual purpose to the meandering. It's still not S1 level but it's at least going somewhere interesting and much less predictable.
How long is the episode generally?
About 85/90 mins.
Do you believe it's worth playing? Will it save the season?
I can't answer if it will save the season. I'd say not really, the damage the first two episodes made has already been done but they made an admirable effort to try and eliminate the problems of them. I'd definitely say it's worth playing yourself, you might end up hating it but I expected nothing from it and I actually found myself enjoying it.
Can someone convey if episode 3 is improved to my standards without spoiling? I'm sure OP of this thread knows what I'm talking about, but f… moreor anyone else:
* Is Clementine still dark, impulsive, and unchanged by decisions? I would love to know this because she's primarily what I care about in this series, and god damn, season 3 has blemished her character very much so. I'm not even sure I want to play the rest of this season, I'd prefer to keep my seasons 1 and 2 mindset and pretend season 3 isn't canon.
* Is Javier's family still annoying as usual?
* How is the plot and writing in general? Good or bad? I thought episodes 1 and 2 were pretty damn bad.
* How long is the episode generally?
* Do you believe it's worth playing? Will it save the season?
Just some quick questions I have, and I'm sure some people saw the leaked episode already, but please refrain from spoilers in case I take interest in actually playing it. If it's bad,… [view original content]
If she was a 'Janiac' the first two episodes then I'd say she's definitely more like Kenny in ep3. Sort of.
Which is ironic, considering Kenny was far more foul-mouthed from what I observed.
There's a determinant scene you can get in EP3 which gives Gabe some admirability which I liked.
Determinant? Not sure which one you're referring to, but I'm pretty sure that opening cemented his place in my eyes.
It's still a bit meandering at times like in S2 but it has actual purpose to the meandering.
I'd say not really, the damage the first two episodes made has already been done but they made an admirable effort to try and eliminate the problems of them.
Fucking A Agreed! Just couldn't put it words.
I expected nothing from it and I actually found myself enjoying it.
Is Clementine still dark, impulsive, and unchanged by decisions? I would love to know this because she's primarily what I care about in this… more series, and god damn, season 3 has blemished her character very much so. I'm not even sure I want to play the rest of this season, I'd prefer to keep my seasons 1 and 2 mindset and pretend season 3 isn't canon.
I don't think so, at least not in my opinion. Without saying too much she does explain why she feels the way she does in the episode which kinda justifies it, but I saw that more as the writers having no idea how to scrub that dirty spot clean from the previous episodes. She's roughly the same but she doesn't swear at least, unless you want her to, which is a big improvement for me. If she was a 'Janiac' the first two episodes then I'd say she's definitely more like Kenny in ep3. Sort of.
Is Javier's family still annoying as usual?
There's a determinant scene you can get in E… [view original content]
Which is ironic, considering Kenny was far more foul-mouthed from what I observed.
True, Lee swore quite a bit undeterminantly but he taught Clementine not to do it regardless who is saying it. Clementine even picks him up on his swearing at times, and let's be honest, if she had to do the same for Kenny I think the episodes would be A LOT longer haha.
Determinant? Not sure which one you're referring to, but I'm pretty sure that opening cemented his place in my eyes.
The second last choice, the one with Kate. I've never really liked him but I do like how he acted in that scene.
Just gonna comment a bit here..
If she was a 'Janiac' the first two episodes then I'd say she's definitely more like Kenny in ep3. Sor… moret of.
Which is ironic, considering Kenny was far more foul-mouthed from what I observed.
There's a determinant scene you can get in EP3 which gives Gabe some admirability which I liked.
Determinant? Not sure which one you're referring to, but I'm pretty sure that opening cemented his place in my eyes.
It's still a bit meandering at times like in S2 but it has actual purpose to the meandering.
I'd say not really, the damage the first two episodes made has already been done but they made an admirable effort to try and eliminate the problems of them.
Fucking A Agreed! Just couldn't put it words.
I expected nothing from it and I actually found myself enjoying it.
Semi-opposite, but that's just me.
Because it's what they saw the fans wanted since Season 2 began and they just took it to a logical extreme.
I thought she was depicted quite badass since season 2 actually, suturing her own laceration, getting shot, going on a genocide of walkers at the age of 11, etc. Clem was already there, she attained being cool but not trying to fit the whole cliche Hollywood "badass" persona, it was fucking perfect, but now it's gone too far, sadly.
I see you responded while I was editting out a few issues, but whatever.
I don't know why the writers thought making Clementine a clic… morehe """badass""" this season was a good idea
Because it's what they saw the fans wanted since Season 2 began and they just took it to a logical extreme.
most notably when Clem says "We're all victims", that was just so damn out of character in her voice, it did make me cringe a bit.
Oh trust me, the line I alluded to isn't much better, likely shoutout/continuity or not.
I did find some of the teaser trailer cringy when he was about to kill Badger, which I'm guessing is a determinant choice.
It is. I don't think that's spoiling anything, especially given the context of what that entails.
Yeah, I expected an improvement from episodes 1 and 2, but with Clementine not showing improvement of her actual character, I don't think I want to play season 3 at all...and I feel… [view original content]
I don't think so, at least not in my opinion. Without saying too much she does explain why she feels the way she does in the episode which kinda justifies it, but I saw that more as the writers having no idea how to scrub that dirty spot clean from the previous episodes. She's roughly the same but she doesn't swear at least, unless you want her to, which is a big improvement for me. If she was a 'Janiac' the first two episodes then I'd say she's definitely more like Kenny in ep3. Sort of.
Well she still acts the same, that's not good, honestly they could've gotten away with it by conveying she felt horrible what she did to Eli actually, and that she's never murdered someone before, and try to talk to Javier more so she can not be "as dark", but from what I've heard, it seems like she just says why she's pissed but still is pissed, which is kind of defeating the purpose.
There's a determinant scene you can get in EP3 which gives Gabe some admirability which I liked. Kate sort of... 180's almost. In a well written way imo.
Please tell me they don't allude the Gabe + Clem shit, please. I wish they would've never implied it, even as a joke, because holy fuck the community took that horribly, fucking disgusting.
Much better. It's still a bit meandering at times like in S2 but it has actual purpose to the meandering. It's still not S1 level but it's at least going somewhere interesting and much less predictable.
Hmm, with Clem still being the same more or less, this still puts me off from actually wanting to play the game...I wasn't even excited for its release honestly, that is episode 3. This is actually the first TWDG I've bought because I loved the first seasons very much, but this has turned into a huge disappointment (in case you're wondering, I got the first two seasons for free through Twitch Prime, but watched the series before that a few years back, I forgot many things so it was still a rather new experience).
About 85/90 mins.
I'm okay with 1 hour and 30 minute episodes honestly, even season 2 feels quite long but not too long, so hopefully they can keep this up, but even if they do, it's going to be a shorter season (and probably their worst).
I can't answer if it will save the season. I'd say not really, the damage the first two episodes made has already been done but they made an admirable effort to try and eliminate the problems of them. I'd definitely say it's worth playing yourself, you might end up hating it but I expected nothing from it and I actually found myself enjoying it.
Eh, like I've said in a different comment, I'm hesitant to play it because I've recently played seasons 1 and 2 again, and I don't want that feeling to go away; I'd much prefer season 3 just be that child that never happened in a way.
Is Clementine still dark, impulsive, and unchanged by decisions? I would love to know this because she's primarily what I care about in this… more series, and god damn, season 3 has blemished her character very much so. I'm not even sure I want to play the rest of this season, I'd prefer to keep my seasons 1 and 2 mindset and pretend season 3 isn't canon.
I don't think so, at least not in my opinion. Without saying too much she does explain why she feels the way she does in the episode which kinda justifies it, but I saw that more as the writers having no idea how to scrub that dirty spot clean from the previous episodes. She's roughly the same but she doesn't swear at least, unless you want her to, which is a big improvement for me. If she was a 'Janiac' the first two episodes then I'd say she's definitely more like Kenny in ep3. Sort of.
Is Javier's family still annoying as usual?
There's a determinant scene you can get in E… [view original content]
Which is ironic, considering Kenny was far more foul-mouthed from what I observed.
True, Lee swore quite a bit undeterminantly but h… moree taught Clementine not to do it regardless who is saying it. Clementine even picks him up on his swearing at times, and let's be honest, if she had to do the same for Kenny I think the episodes would be A LOT longer haha.
Determinant? Not sure which one you're referring to, but I'm pretty sure that opening cemented his place in my eyes.
The second last choice, the one with Kate. I've never really liked him but I do like how he acted in that scene.
Depending on who I ask this may be a silly question, but I never got my head around how new people you meet in any of these games call the zombies 'Walkers' by default nearly - I never understood how it would be the official name for them in ALMOST every group you encounter, in almost every community. You might meet a random character for 4 minutes and they see one and go "Oh crap! It's a Walker!" I guess I don't pay attention enough or I'm just a noob in canon Walking Dead. I just thought it would occasionally be different every often for other people no?
--- This is probably asked a lot so I apologise ---
Exactly. Still, notice how she goes from sewing up her arm after determinately catching Alvin on his language to determinately drinking with Jane behind Kenny's back after teasing her about "making it" with Luke. It's a progression that timeskips made all the more apparent.
Because it's what they saw the fans wanted since Season 2 began and they just took it to a logical extreme.
I thought she was depict… moreed quite badass since season 2 actually, suturing her own laceration, getting shot, going on a genocide of walkers at the age of 11, etc. Clem was already there, she attained being cool but not trying to fit the whole cliche Hollywood "badass" persona, it was fucking perfect, but now it's gone too far, sadly.
Actually, people call them many things, Javier says "muertos", most people in the game call them "walkers" of course, but I've seen Luke in season 2 and others call them "lurkers". People have called them many different names, but it appears "walkers" has been the preferred and most widespread word in the game (not sure about comics/TV show since I don't watch them, but the game uses the comic's universe, so who knows).
Depending on who I ask this may be a silly question, but I never got my head around how new people you meet in any of these games call the z… moreombies 'Walkers' by default nearly - I never understood how it would be the official name for them in ALMOST every group you encounter, in almost every community. You might meet a random character for 4 minutes and they see one and go "Oh crap! It's a Walker!" I guess I don't pay attention enough or I'm just a noob in canon Walking Dead. I just thought it would occasionally be different every often for other people no?
--- This is probably asked a lot so I apologise ---
We know Conrad had a kid that probably died (doubt he's missing) and his wife died it appears as well. Francine was Conrad's girlfriend, but who knows how long they were together, but I'd guess about two years or so.
Yeah, hubs don't exist in this episode unfortunately and the characters don't really get any personal development with the exception of a few. Nonetheless, I think the characters are still interesting even though we don't know a lot about them. I still want to invest my time into seeing how they relate to the plot.
Clementine is pretty limited in this episode and nothing really changes about her.
:^(, yeah probably not playing this.
I read the … morerest of your response though, and it looks like they threw "character development" and "hubs" out of the equation mostly. I kind of want to try the episode out, but then again, I'd have to start actually thinking about season 3 as a canon story, because right now I've played seasons 1 and 2 not too long ago (weeks/1 month ago?), and that's still fresh in my mind, I also had a happy Kenny ending in which they discarded him as an unimportant character completely, so much that I honestly didn't feel too much emotion/didn't even tear when he was dying. Kenny's death was simply too quick and forced for me to care, but in a way, he's alive for me since I'm still in seasons 1 and 2's canon story, and season 3 is that one extra child that no one gives a damn about. I don't really know where I'm going with this or if it made any sense, anyways, thanks for the response.
We know Conrad had a kid that probably died (doubt he's missing) and his wife died it appears as well. Francine was Conrad's girlfriend, but who knows how long they were together, but I'd guess about two years or so.
When Jane and Clem are scavenging the two corpses in season 2 (you find Sarah's glasses soon after), what does Clementine do with the bullet she finds? Is it ever utilized?
Nothing. Someone mentioned last year that the bullets are still in your inventory at the end of the episode despite you finding them non-determinantly and Jane mentioning they might come in handy later. I have an obvious theory about that that actually coincides too well with later developments to not have some truth to it.
When Jane and Clem are scavenging the two corpses in season 2 (you find Sarah's glasses soon after), what does Clementine do with the bullet she finds? Is it ever utilized?
Damn. It'd be nice if you needed that cartridge in the finale, loading it in, choosing who you care about most (but then again, shooting Kenny subsequently after letting Jane die wouldn't work...maybe you could leave him instead, I dunno, it's all hypothetical regardless).
Nothing. Someone mentioned last year that the bullets are still in your inventory at the end of the episode despite you finding them non-det… moreerminantly and Jane mentioning they might come in handy later. I have an obvious theory about that that actually coincides too well with later developments to not have some truth to it.
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good lord, boy, is that what I think it is in your avatar?
mmm, yeah. but maybe have it so it's possible to let her die from blood loss.
Yeah, it's the Hero and the sociopath being interrupted AtLA style.
...I guess?
At the very least, everyone's motivations would be more unified and understandable, not to mention Kate would get to show what she's made of.
I'm curious about the presence of beer at Monroe.
Wait, that was beer Norma was drinking?
Had Sarah lived past the Observation Deck Defense and maybe even the Russian Shotout, who do you think she would've sided with in the in-group disputes, if anyone?
Aye, and Randall too
I believe that she would've sided with whatever Clementine does, as Clem is essentially her closest friend by that point, or at least figure of some sort. If Clem can hypothetically not influence this in your scenario, then...I don't know? Sarah was hit by Carver and says she doesn't ever want to hurt someone, but then again she lost her father and has no guideline necessarily, then possibly join the rest of the group that randomly feels bad for Arvo after what he does (there's no justification for giving Arvo the mercy they did, especially when Arvo wouldn't reciprocate the favor of not being stolen from in my canon story). So it's really a tough choice as it's quite hard to predict Sarah's morals, but I definitely would not imagine her leaving Clem, A.J., Kenny, and Jane.
I was only saying that, because the possibility of a scene where you have to comfort a dying child could be a good one
it's not one that has happened in a telltale game yet
dare I ask the source?
and why is that your avatar if you hate Jane so much? you being ironic or somethin?
True, though Duck comes kinda close
I found it in an older thread where @lilacbloom posted it as part of a little comic. And yes, it's the latest entry in my funny/weird faces line--were you not here when I did the Jane-faced Clem one?
Oh, so it's not porn?
Got a link to the thread/comic?
I asked you about that one too, ya don't remember?
Unfortunately for you, no. Though that gives me an idea...
Anyway, I can't seem to find the whole thang right now, so ask again later.
Also, that one came from a forum discussing mods. I picked it because it was creepy.
What do you think of Conrad post episode 3? I think he's easily becoming one of my favorites this season. The only mistake was the writing of him in the first episode and making him determinant because it limits his character development and potential but I sincerely hope there is a way to keep him around for how ever long we want. It would be an interesting touch
Can someone convey if episode 3 is improved to my standards without spoiling? I'm sure OP of this thread knows what I'm talking about, but for anyone else:
Just some quick questions I have, and I'm sure some people saw the leaked episode already, but please refrain from spoilers in case I take interest in actually playing it. If it's bad, I guess I'll be playing seasons 1 and 2 perpetually for my life, because they're the only seasons that always make me smile, and for fucks sake, they didn't ruin Clem's character of all.
Easily in my top 4/3. I think the execution of the choice where he became determinate was definitely hamfisted and too much, though.
Hey there, Spodes! I've been stewing over the episode for a bit, so I think I can answer your questions.
Her situation is somewhat explained here and the few times she gets like that are justified, for the most part. Though there is one line that seriously made me groan. As for the decisions, I wanna say I don't think so.
Depends on what you found annoying about them, to be honest, but no. In fact, let's just say that Kate and especially Gabe use their screentime to be a little more understandable/endearing. But again, that's just me. Also, while David is sure to be a mixed to positive experience collectively, I'm not really sure what to say about Javier himself other than he does things. And that's as much as I can say with or without spoilers, unfortunately; gonna need to think about that one quite a bit to form any real opinion.
For those who weren't apathetic to begin with, yes, it has improved. Imo, not only does it address many of the issues with the first episode to some extent, but the story itself fulfilled my wishes quality-wise and then some.
I've heard an estimate of anywhere between 70 and 90 minutes, depending on your choices. I personally feel the pacing is pretty good despite that, though.
Eeh...that depends on the individual, unfortunately. I have seen a somewhat negative comment or two that mentioned the dialogue being cringeworthy in places and the storytelling being constant to the point of feeling busy when it's all said and done.
So, generally an improvement, but how much so (as elements or as a whole) is up to you to decide.
I think Episode 3 is an improvement from the first two episodes, but it's still lacking a lot. Clementine is pretty limited in this episode and nothing really changes about her. There are some cool scenes with her though. It's definitely a lot more focused on Javier's family than Clem unfortunately. I think his family is a lot less annoying but then again this episode is primarily focused on David and Javier so there isn't a lot of Kate or Gabe. The plot is okay. I think a lot of theories about this episode came true so therefore the plot isn't as exciting, but it's still interesting enough to see where it goes. The writing is alright in my opinion. Some lines may seem cheesy but I didn't really notice any awful writing. The episode is short. It's about an hour and 30 minutes which was the length of the first episode. I think you should wait and see for yourself if it's worth playing tbh. I think it's interesting enough to play story wise but there are quite a few turn offs. I would say the short episode length is something that would keep me from playing and the fact that there is no character development really. Unfortunately only a few characters get the most screen time, while other characters are just off screen which is really frustrating. If this episode did have equal screen time for everyone and was longer than I would definitely suggest playing it.But this episode focuses more on plot rather than character.
Well god damnit, looks like Clem is going to be ruined this season...which could've been avoided if they simply made her the playable character only honestly, then we'd have determinant Eli, non-edgy remarks, etc.
Oh, I found Kate and Gabe to be annoying as hell, especially when Kate wants to smoke weed, run to an obviously dead Mariana (I'm sure Mari didn't want them to run to her in this situation), and in general I just don't find her character very enjoyable, Gabe is just edgy and incompetent (Kate is also incompetent, but not as much).
Hmm, I kinda want to play the episode, but then again they haven't fixed Clementine which is what I honestly care about most, so who knows. It's depressing to see Clem in her state, and I condemn most of her behavior this season, it's not warranted as well, so it all just piles up. I don't know why the writers thought making Clementine a cliche """badass""" this season was a good idea, she aspired much more in season 2, but seems to have no real showing of maturity in this season compared to the others, it's simply just...abysmal.
An hour and thirty minutes isn't bad, but...70? I'm guessing you'd have to really rush through to attain that, but I search everything and do any action I can to extend the time each playthrough, even when I know what it does, so hopefully it's sustainable. Even in season 2 the episodes felt quite long, but that was due to there not being as many long puzzles probably, but I was fine with season 2 regardless of the -30 minutes sometimes, plus they also went over that 1 hour 30 minute mark multiple times. Eh, we'll see if season 3 can improve it just a bit so it's consistently long, but then again, I haven't played it myself so I'm not going to judge just yet regarding this subject.
I actually believe the "cringey dialogue" thing, it's not something I discuss much, but most notably when Clem says "We're all victims", that was just so damn out of character in her voice, it did make me cringe a bit. Also Javier has this emotion, but for me it's hard to feel it when I don't care about his family, so there probably will be some cringey dialogue here and there. I did find some of the teaser trailer cringy when he was about to kill Badger, which I'm guessing is a determinant choice.
Yeah, I expected an improvement from episodes 1 and 2, but with Clementine not showing improvement of her actual character, I don't think I want to play season 3 at all...and I feel like they're never going to put her back on track. There's too much wrong with Clem this season in my opinion for me to want to play it, from the character model, to her out-of-character self, it's sad to see the forced transition, and I'd much rather end my canon story at season 2 where she was still that happy, moral, adorable, responsible, mature, etc. (I could go on for a long ass time okay) person who didn't wake up, murder someone out of impusle, and want someone to cover up. Actually shit, I just noticed I'm ranting, not going to further this. Sorry for the essay.
:^(, yeah probably not playing this.
I read the rest of your response though, and it looks like they threw "character development" and "hubs" out of the equation mostly. I kind of want to try the episode out, but then again, I'd have to start actually thinking about season 3 as a canon story, because right now I've played seasons 1 and 2 not too long ago (weeks/1 month ago?), and that's still fresh in my mind, I also had a happy Kenny ending in which they discarded him as an unimportant character completely, so much that I honestly didn't feel too much emotion/didn't even tear when he was dying. Kenny's death was simply too quick and forced for me to care, but in a way, he's alive for me since I'm still in seasons 1 and 2's canon story, and season 3 is that one extra child that no one gives a damn about. I don't really know where I'm going with this or if it made any sense, anyways, thanks for the response.
I see you responded while I was editting out a few issues, but whatever.
Because it's what they saw the fans wanted since Season 2 began and they just took it to a logical extreme.
Oh trust me, the line I alluded to isn't much better, likely shoutout/continuity or not.
It is. I don't think that's spoiling anything, especially given the context of what that entails.
It's fine. Personally, aside from that one line and maybe another moment or two I may have forgotten, those aspects are relatively played down, so there's that much.
I don't think so, at least not in my opinion. Without saying too much she does explain why she feels the way she does in the episode which kinda justifies it, but I saw that more as the writers having no idea how to scrub that dirty spot clean from the previous episodes. She's roughly the same but she doesn't swear at least, unless you want her to, which is a big improvement for me. If she was a 'Janiac' the first two episodes then I'd say she's definitely more like Kenny in ep3. Sort of.
There's a determinant scene you can get in EP3 which gives Gabe some admirability which I liked. Kate sort of... 180's almost. In a well written way imo.
Much better. It's still a bit meandering at times like in S2 but it has actual purpose to the meandering. It's still not S1 level but it's at least going somewhere interesting and much less predictable.
About 85/90 mins.
I can't answer if it will save the season. I'd say not really, the damage the first two episodes made has already been done but they made an admirable effort to try and eliminate the problems of them. I'd definitely say it's worth playing yourself, you might end up hating it but I expected nothing from it and I actually found myself enjoying it.
Just gonna comment a bit here..
Which is ironic, considering Kenny was far more foul-mouthed from what I observed.
Determinant? Not sure which one you're referring to, but I'm pretty sure that opening cemented his place in my eyes.
Fucking A Agreed! Just couldn't put it words.
Semi-opposite, but that's just me.
True, Lee swore quite a bit undeterminantly but he taught Clementine not to do it regardless who is saying it. Clementine even picks him up on his swearing at times, and let's be honest, if she had to do the same for Kenny I think the episodes would be A LOT longer haha.
The second last choice, the one with Kate. I've never really liked him but I do like how he acted in that scene.
I thought she was depicted quite badass since season 2 actually, suturing her own laceration, getting shot, going on a genocide of walkers at the age of 11, etc. Clem was already there, she attained being cool but not trying to fit the whole cliche Hollywood "badass" persona, it was fucking perfect, but now it's gone too far, sadly.
Well she still acts the same, that's not good, honestly they could've gotten away with it by conveying she felt horrible what she did to Eli actually, and that she's never murdered someone before, and try to talk to Javier more so she can not be "as dark", but from what I've heard, it seems like she just says why she's pissed but still is pissed, which is kind of defeating the purpose.
Please tell me they don't allude the Gabe + Clem shit, please. I wish they would've never implied it, even as a joke, because holy fuck the community took that horribly, fucking disgusting.
Hmm, with Clem still being the same more or less, this still puts me off from actually wanting to play the game...I wasn't even excited for its release honestly, that is episode 3. This is actually the first TWDG I've bought because I loved the first seasons very much, but this has turned into a huge disappointment (in case you're wondering, I got the first two seasons for free through Twitch Prime, but watched the series before that a few years back, I forgot many things so it was still a rather new experience).
I'm okay with 1 hour and 30 minute episodes honestly, even season 2 feels quite long but not too long, so hopefully they can keep this up, but even if they do, it's going to be a shorter season (and probably their worst).
Eh, like I've said in a different comment, I'm hesitant to play it because I've recently played seasons 1 and 2 again, and I don't want that feeling to go away; I'd much prefer season 3 just be that child that never happened in a way.
Oh yeah, I did hear about that.
Depending on who I ask this may be a silly question, but I never got my head around how new people you meet in any of these games call the zombies 'Walkers' by default nearly - I never understood how it would be the official name for them in ALMOST every group you encounter, in almost every community. You might meet a random character for 4 minutes and they see one and go "Oh crap! It's a Walker!" I guess I don't pay attention enough or I'm just a noob in canon Walking Dead. I just thought it would occasionally be different every often for other people no?
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Exactly. Still, notice how she goes from sewing up her arm after determinately catching Alvin on his language to determinately drinking with Jane behind Kenny's back after teasing her about "making it" with Luke. It's a progression that timeskips made all the more apparent.
Do they ever specify the nature of Conrad and Francine's relationship? If so, how about how long they've been together?
Actually, people call them many things, Javier says "muertos", most people in the game call them "walkers" of course, but I've seen Luke in season 2 and others call them "lurkers". People have called them many different names, but it appears "walkers" has been the preferred and most widespread word in the game (not sure about comics/TV show since I don't watch them, but the game uses the comic's universe, so who knows).
We know Conrad had a kid that probably died (doubt he's missing) and his wife died it appears as well. Francine was Conrad's girlfriend, but who knows how long they were together, but I'd guess about two years or so.
Yeah, hubs don't exist in this episode unfortunately and the characters don't really get any personal development with the exception of a few. Nonetheless, I think the characters are still interesting even though we don't know a lot about them. I still want to invest my time into seeing how they relate to the plot.
I don't think they explicitly say but during the hostage situation it's noticeable that they were together.
Yeah, that's the real reason I decided to ask, alongside wondering what the relationship itself was. Take that as you will.
When Jane and Clem are scavenging the two corpses in season 2 (you find Sarah's glasses soon after), what does Clementine do with the bullet she finds? Is it ever utilized?
Nothing. Someone mentioned last year that the bullets are still in your inventory at the end of the episode despite you finding them non-determinantly and Jane mentioning they might come in handy later. I have an obvious theory about that that actually coincides too well with later developments to not have some truth to it.
Damn. It'd be nice if you needed that cartridge in the finale, loading it in, choosing who you care about most (but then again, shooting Kenny subsequently after letting Jane die wouldn't work...maybe you could leave him instead, I dunno, it's all hypothetical regardless).