Well I can now agree 100%....releasing the PC Demo was bad...I blame @mostlypoptarts as I told her it was a bad idea. Oh well at least I can say the game is damn smooth on my PC,
This is, like, the one time I wish hadn't spoiled myself on purpose, but then, I don't even know if the leaks are real. I'm excited to see the game in the next week, I just wish I had the cash on me to buy it on Switch day 1.
It's very easy to datamine the game using the PC files. Like you don't even have to be a great hacker to do it.
I have no idea where people got episode 2 from though, not even I could find that shit and I looked through everything ep1 related (my pc can't run the game so i didn't care about spoiling myself) unless they somehow managed to obtain the full game's files.
I do think it was silly of Telltale not to delete parts of the data that go beyond the demo though. Because a lot of that stuff could have been deleted and it wouldn't have fucked up the demo at all (or at least rename some stuff). Hopefully they take more care for future reference, since it is a shame that it's spread beyond just private convos now.
Bro this is like the only safe place from spoilers rn. Like I’m actually getting kinda nervous because one of the spoilers I did see (I wish… more I didn’t and I wasn’t even looking for leaks) was apparently from episode 2. Like how tf are people already getting this shit, is steam really that open to data mining (or whatever tf it’s called).
Like imma have to go live in a hole until all of S4 is out.
It's very easy to datamine the game using the PC files. Like you don't even have to be a great hacker to do it.
I have no idea where peop… morele got episode 2 from though, not even I could find that shit and I looked through everything ep1 related (my pc can't run the game so i didn't care about spoiling myself) unless they somehow managed to obtain the full game's files.
I do think it was silly of Telltale not to delete parts of the data that go beyond the demo though. Because a lot of that stuff could have been deleted and it wouldn't have fucked up the demo at all (or at least rename some stuff). Hopefully they take more care for future reference, since it is a shame that it's spread beyond just private convos now.
Perhaps, but i'm pretty sure they extended the original plan for the demo's release.
You know, If I hadn't seen the actual images, I would have thought it would be funny if it turned out Telltale was just trolling everyone because they know people datamine the games (so like they changed names and stuff just to fuck with people)
it was silly of Telltale not to delete parts of the data that go beyond the demo though.
This explains why the file size of the demo was so big. I was really surprised to see that it was like 2.5GB for just 15-20 minutes of gameplay.
Perhaps, but i'm pretty sure they extended the original plan for the demo's release.
You know, If I hadn't seen the actual images, I woul… mored have thought it would be funny if it turned out Telltale was just trolling everyone because they know people datamine the games (so like they changed names and stuff just to fuck with people)
Hope it’s not much of a spoiler, but according to reddit, achievement/trophy illustrations are making it’s return. No more lame numbered achievements, yeah!!!
If this turns out to be true, this little nice sweet touch will TAKE US BACK to good old 2013
Cant wait to watch the episodes when they come out but will buy them letter and maybe the collection on stream if price is reduced . only a few more days left
Welp like I said, the PC demo wasnt released because major leaks would happen, but you fellas kept pushing Telltale to release a 10 minute demo of gameplay you already saw. Now look where we are. Good job bois.
If you think what was found in the demo was bad, just wait till the full season comes out.
I don't even think Telltale can get rid of any spoilers in that.
It's different with the demo because you didnt actually need all the extra info for the game to run (since we only played 20mins of it), but someone who has downloaded the entire season can potentially find future episode content as it's added in.
Welp like I said, the PC demo wasnt released because major leaks would happen, but you fellas kept pushing Telltale to release a 10 minute demo of gameplay you already saw. Now look where we are. Good job bois.
After the season comes out there shouldnt be much of a problem of future content, atleast nothing as major as the entire first episode like this demo did. Problem here is the demo is basically all of episode 1 but changed so it ends early, when in reality its the whole episode tucked in the files, wont be surprised if someone manages to get the whole episode running before release.
Its still just annoying, I knew this would happen. I wish Telltale just didnt release that demo at all, it was so obvious they wouldnt take the right steps to make sure content past the demo wouldnt be present.
If you think what was found in the demo was bad, just wait till the full season comes out.
I don't even think Telltale can get rid of any… more spoilers in that.
It's different with the demo because you didnt actually need all the extra info for the game to run (since we only played 20mins of it), but someone who has downloaded the entire season can potentially find future episode content as it's added in.
After the season comes out there shouldnt be much of a problem of future content, atleast nothing as major as the entire first episode like … morethis demo did. Problem here is the demo is basically all of episode 1 but changed so it ends early, when in reality its the whole episode tucked in the files, wont be surprised if someone manages to get the whole episode running before release.
Its still just annoying, I knew this would happen. I wish Telltale just didnt release that demo at all, it was so obvious they wouldnt take the right steps to make sure content past the demo wouldnt be present.
You might be right actually, now that I think of it I think they only input most of the important data when the next episode is actually due (so we download it during actual release)
I still find the demo stuff silly though. Like when I was looking through the data there was literally a folder for the choices. That could have been removed and would not have affected the demo (it's coding for the screen that shows up at the end of the episode - so it wouldn't have messed with the first choice we see in the demo since it's not an actual action prompt.)
After the season comes out there shouldnt be much of a problem of future content, atleast nothing as major as the entire first episode like … morethis demo did. Problem here is the demo is basically all of episode 1 but changed so it ends early, when in reality its the whole episode tucked in the files, wont be surprised if someone manages to get the whole episode running before release.
Its still just annoying, I knew this would happen. I wish Telltale just didnt release that demo at all, it was so obvious they wouldnt take the right steps to make sure content past the demo wouldnt be present.
In General Chat I have a post about making a Pact with Telltale to never again do a PC Demo...please check it and post that you agree...I feel so guilty over this situation.
In General Chat I have a post about making a Pact with Telltale to never again do a PC Demo...please check it and post that you agree...I feel so guilty over this situation.
In General Chat I have a post about making a Pact with Telltale to never again do a PC Demo...please check it and post that you agree...I feel so guilty over this situation.
im just surprised there's not any backlash for a mobile version not being introduced , glad i've got a switch im looking forward to seeing how much an episode costs on the nintendo store; or are we getting the full product at a set price (and releasing the episodes as and when?)
This is not the first time this has happened. It happened with S2 and ANF. You’d think they’d figure out how to not have major spoilers in the files by now.
Don't feel guilty.
The problem wasn't the demo releasing on PC. The problem was Telltale being careless enough to leave in the uneeded files for the entire episode.
That's hardly your fault, tbh.
It's not your fault that Telltale left a bunch of needless stuff in the PC demo. Or that the demo itself is apparently just the full episode but with a restriction to prevent players from playing the rest of the episode.
In General Chat I have a post about making a Pact with Telltale to never again do a PC Demo...please check it and post that you agree...I feel so guilty over this situation.
At least Telltale didn't screw up as badly as Sega and made sure the restriction worked. I can't imagine the chaos that would happen if people ended up accessing the full episode on accident.
It's not your fault that Telltale left a bunch of needless stuff in the PC demo. Or that the demo itself is apparently just the full episode but with a restriction to prevent players from playing the rest of the episode.
This is not the first time this has happened. It happened with S2 and ANF. You’d think they’d figure out how to not have major spoilers in the files by now.
This whole thing reminds of the Captain Spirit/Life is Strange 2 situation, where people datamined the special Captain Spirit demo, which is NOT EVEN INCLUDED IN THE ACTUAL GAME and found lots of data from LiS2.
Captain Spirit is basically a seperate game, but they still found stuff for LiS2, because it's the same engine build they used for LiS2. I think their assets are all saved in their Unreal Engine 4 dev build to make it easier to access them, instead of having two seperate engine builds for the demo and for the actual game, which can be time consuming to manage. They could've prevented that by developing the demo seperate to LiS2 and building it from the ground up with a seperate dev build exclusive to the demo, which only includes code and assets from the demo, but that is sadly time consuming as well and the idea of this kind of intro probably came up way to late in the developement of LiS2 to set up a completely new dev build with its own little dev team just for a demo, so they just developed the Captain Spirit demo at the same time as LiS2 with the same build to save time and money.
Telltale, however, couldn't have seperated the demo from the actual game, because the demo IS the actual beginning of the game. If they removed code from the demo, they would need to put it back in later, which, since the Telltale Tool is arcaic as hell, would've probably caused a lot of problems.
This whole thing reminds of the Captain Spirit/Life is Strange 2 situation, where people datamined the special Captain Spirit demo, which is… more NOT EVEN INCLUDED IN THE ACTUAL GAME and found lots of data from LiS2.
Captain Spirit is basically a seperate game, but they still found stuff for LiS2, because it's the same engine build they used for LiS2. I think their assets are all saved in their Unreal Engine 4 dev build to make it easier to access them, instead of having two seperate engine builds for the demo and for the actual game, which can be time consuming to manage. They could've prevented that by developing the demo seperate to LiS2 and building it from the ground up with a seperate dev build exclusive to the demo, which only includes code and assets from the demo, but that is sadly time consuming as well and the idea of this kind of intro probably came up way to late in the developement of LiS2 to set up a completely new dev build with… [view original content]
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Well I can now agree 100%....releasing the PC Demo was bad...I blame @mostlypoptarts as I told her it was a bad idea. Oh well at least I can say the game is damn smooth on my PC,
I guess we will never see a Telltale demo on PC again lol
This is, like, the one time I wish hadn't spoiled myself on purpose, but then, I don't even know if the leaks are real. I'm excited to see the game in the next week, I just wish I had the cash on me to buy it on Switch day 1.
Money gods, if you're out there...
It's very easy to datamine the game using the PC files. Like you don't even have to be a great hacker to do it.
I have no idea where people got episode 2 from though, not even I could find that shit and I looked through everything ep1 related (my pc can't run the game so i didn't care about spoiling myself) unless they somehow managed to obtain the full game's files.
I do think it was silly of Telltale not to delete parts of the data that go beyond the demo though. Because a lot of that stuff could have been deleted and it wouldn't have fucked up the demo at all (or at least rename some stuff). Hopefully they take more care for future reference, since it is a shame that it's spread beyond just private convos now.
This explains why the file size of the demo was so big. I was really surprised to see that it was like 2.5GB for just 15-20 minutes of gameplay.
Perhaps, but i'm pretty sure they extended the original plan for the demo's release.
You know, If I hadn't seen the actual images, I would have thought it would be funny if it turned out Telltale was just trolling everyone because they know people datamine the games (so like they changed names and stuff just to fuck with people)
I would be so happy if that was the case but I highly doubt it because the leaks just look so legit.
The former.
... did you like the stuff that was happening?
Yes and no.
That's weird, I don't remember was there ever a demo released for season 2 and 3?
I just hope Telltale doesn’t rewrite the story because of the leaks.
@MRSHYGUY45 Supposedly, they once did. I don't remember what game it was but because of the leaks, they slightly changed the course of the plot.
It was supposedly Wolf because everyone predicted the killer was the red hair man.
I just saw that Pete Hawley has an amazing new icon on Twitter.
Disco Broccoli is taking over
Man, Pete Hawley seems like a very sympathetic guy. Can't wait to see where he takes Telltale next.
Not sure if anyone has seen this new teaser posted to Telltale's twitter, so just-in-case, here it is:
https://twitter.com/telltalegames/status/1027212815436664833
Hope it’s not much of a spoiler, but according to reddit, achievement/trophy illustrations are making it’s return. No more lame numbered achievements, yeah!!!
If this turns out to be true, this little nice sweet touch will TAKE US BACK to good old 2013
Cant wait to watch the episodes when they come out but will buy them letter and maybe the collection on stream if price is reduced . only a few more days left
https://giphy.com/gifs/happy-smiling-jeremy-renner-14urMYvFxIKEms
https://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&biw=1280&bih=642&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=vChsW4G5O4qVmwWG1ZLwDA&q=telltale+where+is+the+next+episode+gif&oq=telltale+where+is+the+next+episode+gif&gs_l=img.3...25968.30126.0.31740.9.9.0.0.0.0.624.2479.3-1j2j2.5.0....0...1c.1.64.img..4.0.0....0.gd080dRuoUo#imgrc=KR4-XreokGYxjM:
Welp like I said, the PC demo wasnt released because major leaks would happen, but you fellas kept pushing Telltale to release a 10 minute demo of gameplay you already saw. Now look where we are. Good job bois.
If you think what was found in the demo was bad, just wait till the full season comes out.
I don't even think Telltale can get rid of any spoilers in that.
It's different with the demo because you didnt actually need all the extra info for the game to run (since we only played 20mins of it), but someone who has downloaded the entire season can potentially find future episode content as it's added in.
After the season comes out there shouldnt be much of a problem of future content, atleast nothing as major as the entire first episode like this demo did. Problem here is the demo is basically all of episode 1 but changed so it ends early, when in reality its the whole episode tucked in the files, wont be surprised if someone manages to get the whole episode running before release.
Its still just annoying, I knew this would happen. I wish Telltale just didnt release that demo at all, it was so obvious they wouldnt take the right steps to make sure content past the demo wouldnt be present.
This reminds me of that time Sega accidentally released the entirety of Yakuza 6 in the demo version, LMAO.
But yeah, I hope Telltale learns from this and either only has the files the demo needs in it, or doesn't release a PC demo at all.
You might be right actually, now that I think of it I think they only input most of the important data when the next episode is actually due (so we download it during actual release)
I still find the demo stuff silly though. Like when I was looking through the data there was literally a folder for the choices. That could have been removed and would not have affected the demo (it's coding for the screen that shows up at the end of the episode - so it wouldn't have messed with the first choice we see in the demo since it's not an actual action prompt.)
Well I accidentally got spoiled because people are idiots. Can anyone talk me out of being thoroughly depressed over it
At least the episode will be out in less than a week!
In General Chat I have a post about making a Pact with Telltale to never again do a PC Demo...please check it and post that you agree...I feel so guilty over this situation.
Were you among the people who demanded the demo for PC?
Yes
Well, at least you are sorry
Don't feel guilty.
The problem wasn't the demo releasing on PC. The problem was Telltale being careless enough to leave in the uneeded files for the entire episode.
That's hardly your fault, tbh.
im just surprised there's not any backlash for a mobile version not being introduced
, glad i've got a switch im looking forward to seeing how much an episode costs on the nintendo store; or are we getting the full product at a set price (and releasing the episodes as and when?)
This is not the first time this has happened. It happened with S2 and ANF. You’d think they’d figure out how to not have major spoilers in the files by now.
It's not your fault that Telltale left a bunch of needless stuff in the PC demo. Or that the demo itself is apparently just the full episode but with a restriction to prevent players from playing the rest of the episode.
At least Telltale didn't screw up as badly as Sega and made sure the restriction worked. I can't imagine the chaos that would happen if people ended up accessing the full episode on accident.
Yeah I know, I was one of the people that found the S2 files (on my previous account before I couldn't log in)
I mean, even if they can't take them out, at least rename them to something boring so it's a bit harder to discover lol
This whole thing reminds of the Captain Spirit/Life is Strange 2 situation, where people datamined the special Captain Spirit demo, which is NOT EVEN INCLUDED IN THE ACTUAL GAME and found lots of data from LiS2.
Captain Spirit is basically a seperate game, but they still found stuff for LiS2, because it's the same engine build they used for LiS2. I think their assets are all saved in their Unreal Engine 4 dev build to make it easier to access them, instead of having two seperate engine builds for the demo and for the actual game, which can be time consuming to manage. They could've prevented that by developing the demo seperate to LiS2 and building it from the ground up with a seperate dev build exclusive to the demo, which only includes code and assets from the demo, but that is sadly time consuming as well and the idea of this kind of intro probably came up way to late in the developement of LiS2 to set up a completely new dev build with its own little dev team just for a demo, so they just developed the Captain Spirit demo at the same time as LiS2 with the same build to save time and money.
Telltale, however, couldn't have seperated the demo from the actual game, because the demo IS the actual beginning of the game. If they removed code from the demo, they would need to put it back in later, which, since the Telltale Tool is arcaic as hell, would've probably caused a lot of problems.
If that's the case, then they just should have never released a PC demo. They should have known people would data mine it.