F*** Kenny

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  • edited November 2012
    Wrighty wrote: »
    I agree with you, Larry might have been alive. But is it really worth the risk? After what happened after his last heart attack and the stress he is under now, is it really worth gambling everyone's lives on him being alive? And sure Kenny killed(?) him in a gruesome and traumatising way but theres no other way to do it and they didnt have much time to decide anyway. They obviously reaminate quickly. Anyway it had to be Kenny's place to decide, it involves and affects everyone in the meatlocker. Its not like Lilly could do what needs to be done and you're Lee wasnt going to do the right thing.

    I would like to add:
    he still had consciousness on his first heart attack,I'm pretty sure he had a sharp chest pain.
    now in the meatlocker; he probably had a heart failure, which made his heart stop.

    he might had lived or not but who knows!
  • edited November 2012
    Wrighty, my friend, I really don't want to argue this but,

    MY LEE was doing a heart massage which you just mentioned my Lee wasnt going to do the right thing, when Kenny did his job.

    And come on man, you sound like there is no other possiblity to deal with Larry at his very first seconds of his turning. I mean, I don't suppose he will jump as fast as a tiger to his first victim as soon as his eyes opened again as "dead".

    If they were SURE that he was already dead, yes I was with you. They could take care of him with every God damn way.

    These discussion is pointless as I said somewhere else on forums, that we are all playing different type of games. The thing is all our Kennies Lillies or Carleys are way too different from each other. These are all because of I didn't see Kenny by your way because I never met that guy.

    And believe me, in my playthrough he was just a selfish, shifty and complaining (about everything) and a total unfaithful piece of jerk.

    And about that babbling I was mentioning was those nagging of him about "how they messed up" or "how will they die" or "how he doesn't want everyone on the boat" or bla bla bla bla...
    You might not see these as babbling but for me, his EVERY sentence is nonesense. Last two episodes to me were like wandering around without caring a single word of him. And I'm sure I'll not listen of him on the finale eighter. (Don't ever think I wish him side of me :) Unfortunately I couldn't get rid of him, when I said "I'm going for Clem cause she is like a family to me", he insisted joining me. And whatever I said I couldn't persuade him not to come with me.)

    All the best and good luck on NO TIME LEFT with your Kenny.
    Cheers.
  • edited November 2012
    "selfish, shifty and complaining (about everything) and a total unfaithful piece of jerk."

    "he insisted joining me"

    You call him selfish and shifty and unfaithful and he insists on going on a suicide mission to help you save Clem? What a selfish bastard!

    Also the cop that attacked Lee in ep 1 and the teacher that attacked Kat in ep 2 both jumped up as fast as tigers to start biting, so its safe to assume Larry will again.

    Good luck in ep 5 to you aswell :D
  • edited November 2012
    Wrighty wrote: »
    "selfish, shifty and complaining (about everything) and a total unfaithful piece of jerk."

    "he insisted joining me"

    You call him selfish and shifty and unfaithful and he insists on going on a suicide mission to help you save Clem? What a selfish bastard!

    Also the cop that attacked Lee in ep 1 and the teacher that attacked Kat in ep 2 both jumped up as fast as tigers to start biting, so its safe to assume Larry will again.

    Good luck in ep 5 to you aswell :D

    The cop was there lying for some time. God knows how long Lee was passed out.
    And about Kat, if you turn your back on a possible turner- especially open your neck necessarily- you deserve that instant attack.

    Man, there are many ways to keep someone away from you if you are not sure he is dead(also about to turn) or not. If you are scared to approach him to check if he is dead,I'm sure there are other ways. If it is necessary I would have heap those salt blocks on him- especially on his limbs- than busting his head in front of his daughter, just a simple idea.

    My friend, Kenny decided (?) to come with me but this is not because he has a gentle heart. He is still a selfish, shifty and complaining (about everything) and a total unfaithful piece of jerk.
    He decided to came because I NEVER TREAT HIM AS HE DESERVED. I was always there for him, I tried to protect him and his family and I always did the dirty work for him.
    But what did he do in exchange for? ? ?

    My Lee's only mistake was disagreeing his decisions. And this was enough for him to ruin my life, leaving me behind on many occasions, leaving me to death under fatal danger. What a BRO.

    You can ask me, "So, why did you treat him so gentle?". Then I can simply answer, "I did, cause I'm not like a guy as Kenny is."

    So, it was my succues to have him on board but not because of Kenny's personality (IF THERE IS A SUCCESS IN THIS SITUATION. :))

    Take good care of Clem next week and if you ask me don't trust him while doing it.
    Mark my word.
  • edited November 2012
    SPOILERS FOR TV SERIES SEASON 1-2: I mean, some say that the dead don't reanimate very quickly, like Amy from the TV Series. But remember Shane??? I agree with killing Larry.
  • edited November 2012
    if you told Kenny to go fuck himself he will leave without you. Lol and I took Ben with me so that five seater boat will now only have three people. (Christa, Omid, and Kenny himself.)
  • edited November 2012
    george1120 wrote: »
    if you told Kenny to go fuck himself he will leave without you. Lol and I took Ben with me so that five seater boat will now only have three people. (Christa, Omid, and Kenny himself.)

    Yeah, I know it now, but back then when I was first playing I've choosen being polite (as everytime as with Kenny) while refusing him.
    Guy is a a selfish, shifty and complaining (about everything) and a total unfaithful piece of jerk,
    +++ PLUS +++
    He doesn't see the big picture when he is not wanted

    Man, guess what; I have whole group including Ben.
    And I was desperately desiring going alone!!!
    They just didn't let me be.

    Ben + Kenny...
    I'm doomed, man. I'm really fucked up!

    :D
  • edited November 2012
    dukeleto wrote: »
    The cop was there lying for some time. God knows how long Lee was passed out.
    And about Kat, if you turn your back on a possible turner- especially open your neck necessarily- you deserve that instant attack.

    Man, there are many ways to keep someone away from you if you are not sure he is dead(also about to turn) or not. If you are scared to approach him to check if he is dead,I'm sure there are other ways. If it is necessary I would have heap those salt blocks on him- especially on his limbs- than busting his head in front of his daughter, just a simple idea.

    My friend, Kenny decided (?) to come with me but this is not because he has a gentle heart. He is still a selfish, shifty and complaining (about everything) and a total unfaithful piece of jerk.
    He decided to came because I NEVER TREAT HIM AS HE DESERVED. I was always there for him, I tried to protect him and his family and I always did the dirty work for him.
    But what did he do in exchange for? ? ?

    My Lee's only mistake was disagreeing his decisions. And this was enough for him to ruin my life, leaving me behind on many occasions, leaving me to death under fatal danger. What a BRO.

    You can ask me, "So, why did you treat him so gentle?". Then I can simply answer, "I did, cause I'm not like a guy as Kenny is."

    So, it was my succues to have him on board but not because of Kenny's personality (IF THERE IS A SUCCESS IN THIS SITUATION. :))

    Take good care of Clem next week and if you ask me don't trust him while doing it.
    Mark my word.

    Kat didnt know that dead people reaminate and anyway it shows that people reaminate quickly and jump up.

    Larry was a very strong man, so you would have to heap ALOT of heavy salt licks on him and that would have taken alot of time. You gotta destroy the brain...

    And Kenny came with you on a suicide mission to save Clem because you never treated him as he deserved? That makes absolutely no sense. He is obviously a better man than you give him credit for.

    I would trust Kenny with my life and im sure Clem is in safe hands with him. I bet Lee's life on it :P
  • edited November 2012
    SPOILERS FOR TV SERIES SEASON 1-2: I mean, some say that the dead don't reanimate very quickly, like Amy from the TV Series. But remember Shane??? I agree with killing Larry.

    spoiler tags, remove spaces between the last "spoiler":
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    I mean, some say that the dead don't reanimate very quickly, like Amy from the TV Series. But remember Shane??? I agree with killing Larry.
  • edited November 2012
    Wrighty wrote: »
    Kat didnt know that dead people reaminate and anyway it shows that people reaminate quickly and jump up.

    Larry was a very strong man, so you would have to heap ALOT of heavy salt licks on him and that would have taken alot of time. You gotta destroy the brain...

    And Kenny came with you on a suicide mission to save Clem because you never treated him as he deserved? That makes absolutely no sense. He is obviously a better man than you give him credit for.

    I would trust Kenny with my life and im sure Clem is in safe hands with him. I bet Lee's life on it :P

    Then I'm afraid but your Lee is an "already" dead man. :D

    Just play from the beginning when you finish the game, and not side with Kenny with his decisions.
    I'm not talking about threatening him or trying to kick Duck outside etc etc... I'm talking about general manners- like rationing food, leaving some place or not leaving... Decision type things I'm talking about.

    You will suddenly discover the real Kenny in tears.
    Oh and, I'd like to add and no offense but,
    really really really ".uck Kenny" (he is the MOST irritating man of this game as replies of this thread proves)
    :P
  • edited November 2012
    I'm kinda concerned about the e5 trailer. It shows Kenny again. That's just for the players who did not tell him to go fuck himself right? I'm more than happy to tell Kenny to go fuck himself again but I'd rather just not see that bastard in my game.
  • edited November 2012
    dukeleto wrote: »
    Wrighty, my friend, I really don't want to argue this but,

    MY LEE was doing a heart massage which you just mentioned my Lee wasnt going to do the right thing, when Kenny did his job.

    And come on man, you sound like there is no other possiblity to deal with Larry at his very first seconds of his turning. I mean, I don't suppose he will jump as fast as a tiger to his first victim as soon as his eyes opened again as "dead".

    If they were SURE that he was already dead, yes I was with you. They could take care of him with every God damn way.

    These discussion is pointless as I said somewhere else on forums, that we are all playing different type of games. The thing is all our Kennies Lillies or Carleys are way too different from each other. These are all because of I didn't see Kenny by your way because I never met that guy.

    And believe me, in my playthrough he was just a selfish, shifty and complaining (about everything) and a total unfaithful piece of jerk.

    And about that babbling I was mentioning was those nagging of him about "how they messed up" or "how will they die" or "how he doesn't want everyone on the boat" or bla bla bla bla...
    You might not see these as babbling but for me, his EVERY sentence is nonesense. Last two episodes to me were like wandering around without caring a single word of him. And I'm sure I'll not listen of him on the finale eighter. (Don't ever think I wish him side of me :) Unfortunately I couldn't get rid of him, when I said "I'm going for Clem cause she is like a family to me", he insisted joining me. And whatever I said I couldn't persuade him not to come with me.)

    All the best and good luck on NO TIME LEFT with your Kenny.
    Cheers.

    >Good guy Dukeleto
    >Team Lilly
    >Wishes someone good luck with Kenny
  • edited November 2012
    Kenny went against me in the meat locker and again when it came to stealing from the station wagon. I, Lilly and Clem told him it was wrong but he stole anyways. That fucker is to blame for everything! My only regret is that I missed him when I threw the statue head at him. That's right, I tried to kill that bastard before he tried to salt-lick me!
  • edited November 2012
    Kiel555 wrote: »
    Kenny went against me in the meat locker and again when it came to stealing from the station wagon. I, Lilly and Clem told him it was wrong but he stole anyways. That fucker is to blame for everything! My only regret is that I missed him when I threw the statue head at him. That's right, I tried to kill that bastard before he tried to salt-lick me!

    that was an option? Sweet action!
  • edited November 2012
    Kiel555 wrote: »
    Kenny went against me in the meat locker and again when it came to stealing from the station wagon. I, Lilly and Clem told him it was wrong but he stole anyways. That fucker is to blame for everything! My only regret is that I missed him when I threw the statue head at him. That's right, I tried to kill that bastard before he tried to salt-lick me!

    Same here! I'd have cut my own hand rather than suggest "Kenny should take care of Clem" when I had the option.
  • edited November 2012
    This thread man... KENNY IS A FREAKIN' HERO!!!
  • edited November 2012
    People said Kenny would show his true colours in ep 5 and he did. He showed everyone what kind of man he is: a goddamn hero. :D

    RIP Kenny!
  • edited November 2012
    Indeed Kenny is truly the secondary hero in this epic. Kenny is boss!
  • edited November 2012
    The speech he gives about the people in the house that killed themselves was freakin' awesome. Say what you want about the man, I think that he's always had his head in the right place.
  • edited November 2012
    that was an option? Sweet action!

    Yeah. We both looked at the marble statue at the same time but I was faster! :D
    SaveCarley wrote: »
    Same here! I'd have cut my own hand rather than suggest "Kenny should take care of Clem" when I had the option.

    That sucked having to see Kenny again after telling him to go fuck himself. Still, I did get a chance to try and kill him and called him a bastard so it was not a total loss.

    For the others, you came to the wrong thread to look for sympathy for Kenny. That asshole is responsible for getting us all killed. He even told me that every night Kat gave him shit for being such a dick. Lilly was right again...we can't let one person fuck this up for everyone!
  • edited November 2012
    I dunno, the way my game played out - I can't hate him anymore.
  • edited November 2012
    Hai guys
  • edited November 2012
    DreadMagus wrote: »
    I dunno, the way my game played out - I can't hate him anymore.

    Yeah, my playthrough gave me some serious sympathy for Kenny.

    I was never particularly mad with Kenny so much as I felt he was coded very terribly. I usually sided with him because, a lot of the time, he was just straight up right. When he was being irrational or shortsighted I disagreed with him; this brings up the issue that for every Kenny Point you gain by having his back, you lose five billion for disagreeing with him in even the most minor of ways.

    It was really frustrating, building up a friendship with Kenny and then having the gentle house of cards that is his friendship meter come tumbling down because I forgot to say "bless you" after he sneezed.

    Seriously.
  • edited November 2012
    You know I never liked the guy. Because of his neverlasting needs and because he complained about anything after all the things I've done for him.

    But I MUST give him his right, and I must admit maybe he might not be that bad at all. NOT BECAUSE he did something which needs to be done by courage but because he did THAT without knowing all the reason for bad happenings are because of himself. If he knew whole story(who the "stranger" is and why he is doing these) and then went for it, it was meaningless to me. But without knowing the whole truth, I guess he at last could manage to make one thing right in his pathetic life.

    By the way, congrats to Wrighty and thestalkinghead ;)
    Sorry, but I still don't like him because he led us to our ending, but I admire him most with his last but meaningles suicidal attempt. (For your information, I was always kind to him, I even didn't threw him the statue)
    One way or another, it was a great story which became more dramatic with Kenny. He played his role well, he doomed us, and that's all. Nonetheless, for one time, for all good, everyone, let's say:
    F.ck Kenny! :D
    (I really don't know what I'm thinking about this guy. Both admire and hatred so much for me. Something like love? I'm scared. :P)
  • edited November 2012
    dukeleto wrote: »
    You know I never liked the guy. Because of his neverlasting needs and because he complained about anything.

    But I MUST give him his right, and I must admit maybe he might not be that bad at all. NOT BECAUSE he did something which needs to be done by courage but because he did THAT without knowing all the reason for bad happenings are because of himself. If he knew whole story(who the "stranger" is and why he is doing these) and then went for it, it was meaningless to me. But without knowing the whole truth, I guess he at last could manage to make one thing right in his pathetic life.

    By the way, congrats to Wrighty and thestalkinghead ;)
    Sorry, but I still don't like him because he led us to our ending, but I admire him most with his last but meaningles suicidal attempt. (For your information, I was always kind to him, I even didn't threw him the statue)
    One way or another, it was a great story which became more dramatic with Kenny. He played his role well, he doomed us, and that's all. Nonetheless, for one time, for all good, everyone, let's say:
    F.ck Kenny! :D
    (I really don't know what I'm thinking about this guy. Both admire and hatred so much for me. Something like love? I'm scared. :P)

    Okay? :)
  • edited November 2012
    KennyTWD wrote: »
    Okay? :)

    Okay, he is not a bad guy at all, like Wrighty and thestalkinghead already mentioned. I already admit it.
    But this doesn't change the fact that everybodies life in this game screwed because of him not only by one time but more. I was blaming him for Larry, and now this? These are to much for me to sympathy for him. I just pity for him for his mistakes, and I'll always remember him with his debts, failures, and with his bad temper which made him look worse than he is in real.
  • edited November 2012
    I see no reason to have sympathy for him. There's a moment when he realises what a prick he's been to Ben but he's soon back to himself, threatening Lee and thinking about smashing your head in with a bust. When he told me to leave I did it without a second thought.
  • edited November 2012
    can he still hate you at that point (in the loft/attic)? In mine, on the sofa Kenny pretty much says he's over it now. Even though he did spend quite some time hating Lee.
  • edited November 2012
    dukeleto wrote: »
    Okay, he is not a bad guy at all, like Wrighty and thestalkinghead already mentioned. I already admit it.
    But this doesn't change the fact that everybodies life in this game screwed because of him not only by one time but more. I was blaming him for Larry, and now this? These are to much for me to sympathy for him. I just pity for him for his mistakes, and I'll always remember him with his debts, failures, and with his bad temper which made him look worse than he is in real.



    ...i AM Kenny.
  • edited November 2012
    can he still hate you at that point (in the loft/attic)? In mine, on the sofa Kenny pretty much says he's over it now. Even though he did spend quite some time hating Lee.

    I guess it is fair to judge him with his existance during the journey. I mean, he had a very strong role in this story which made him unforgettable.
    I don't blame him for what he has done anymore, as he is a virtual character. But I accepted his existance as a MUST. "He is like this, he is like that.." well well, everybody has their own point on him. But the constant fact is he stood on where he should stand , he played his role well(to me, as a trouble magnet).
    I think, Telltale deliberately made him sacrifice himself as they were already knowing Kenny must pay his debts.
    KennyTWD wrote: »
    ...i AM Kenny.

    You are alive!!! I didn't throw that statue at you, you know that don't you?
    Come here, sit and feel free to have a drink, besides it is the best thing you can do during Z apocalypse :P
  • edited November 2012
    John W. wrote: »
    Yeah, my playthrough gave me some serious sympathy for Kenny.

    I was never particularly mad with Kenny so much as I felt he was coded very terribly. I usually sided with him because, a lot of the time, he was just straight up right. When he was being irrational or shortsighted I disagreed with him; this brings up the issue that for every Kenny Point you gain by having his back, you lose five billion for disagreeing with him in even the most minor of ways.

    It was really frustrating, building up a friendship with Kenny and then having the gentle house of cards that is his friendship meter come tumbling down because I forgot to say "bless you" after he sneezed.

    Seriously.

    LOL.

    So much this.

    When he sacrificed himself for Ben in my game I was kind of torn between bemusement and sadness. Sadness because he was the last of the original group to die besides Clementine and Lee but bemusement because he is such a giant ass hypocrite. He hates Ben the whole game and then he hates on his wife for killing herself and all he cares about is pragmatism like getting a boat or killing Larry because he might be infected and then all of a sudden he's like SUICIDE CHARGE INTO A MILLION ZOMBIES EVEN THOUGH BENS ALREADY DEAD BECAUSE I ALSO WANT TO DIE BUT IT'S TOTALLY NOT SUICIDE BECAUSE I HATE SUICIDE...

    Part of me really wanted to grab that gun off Kenny and shoot Ben and then proceed to beat him to death with it... The zombies took my satisfaction away... :(
  • edited November 2012
    Eh, gotta give props to that guy. My slight dislike for the way he is turned into indifference and a bit of admiration because of what he did for Ben, my favorite character. He finally decided to show me his good side, and we were kinda starting to get along after I apologized for losing my temper with him in the attic. Too bad he didn't show me that earlier, I spent most of the game on his bad side...

    And I don't know about you guys, but I'm kinda getting sick of every single person we meet dying or disappearing in the game. I know it's TWD, and it's that idea of no one being safe that drew me into reading the comics in the first place, but I think that since it's a game and we get more emotionally invested because we're actually interacting with the characters, I believe that in season 2 it's gonna be a lot harder to get attached to any character we meet after every single person (not including Clemmy) we cared about in season 1 either died or had an unknown fate. Not being able to get attached to anyone would kinda suck D:

    But don't mind me, watching the characters I cared about constantly dying just got me a bit frustrated at TWD in general.
  • edited November 2012
    I was totally p*ssed with Kenny, after saving his son, feeding him, supporting Kenny and his family for long, just because I didn't killed Larry with him, he holded a grudge against me and left me to death twice. I even told him to "f*ck off" in episode 4, although I replayed it later to bring him to die in episode 5. :D
    He becomes better in episode 5 if we can bring him along us, which is still possible if we have sided with his family, although not with him for the whole game.
    In the end, my opinion about him is more or less the same he has about me: I don't like him but I recognize he stood for some moral principles when helping finding Clementine, at least. Definetively not my hero but I'm not so p*ssed with him after episode 5. Took him some time to become a team player but he ends as one.
  • edited November 2012
    Josec wrote: »
    I was totally p*ssed with Kenny, after saving his son, feeding him, supporting Kenny and his family for long, just because I didn't killed Larry with him, he holded a grudge against me and left me to death twice. I even told him to "f*ck off" in episode 4, although I replayed it later to bring him to die in episode 5. :D
    He becomes better in episode 5 if we can bring him along us, which is still possible if we have sided with his family, although not with him for the whole game.
    In the end, my opinion about him is more or less the same he has about me: I don't like him but I recognize he stood for some moral principles when helping finding Clementine, at least. Definetively not my hero but I'm not so p*ssed with him after episode 5. Took him some time to become a team player but he ends as one.

    Epic agree.
  • edited November 2012
    He could have, should have survived. He didn't have to take as much time putting down Ben before following Lee up the ladder.

    He pissed me off severely but I still feel that his dead was pretty much needless.
  • edited November 2012
    chaz99 wrote: »
    He could have, should have survived. He didn't have to take as much time putting down Ben before following Lee up the ladder.

    He pissed me off severely but I still feel that his dead was pretty much needless.

    Maybe he just couldn't take anymore... I mean, Ben.
    He mistreated him for all that time, and so maybe Kenny couldn't stand the idea of killing him and just then going on...
    Maybe he just got tired of their desperate survival. He ventured even being a big disappointment to Lee, and he let it go. Maybe, in the end he came to a conclusion like "Nah, he is already dead in any case" or after thinking of Lee's condition...He just couldn't. Who knows why?
    The thing is he completely gave up.
  • edited November 2012
    It's funny seeing everyone saying "Kenny's a bastard!" one minute and then "Kenny's such a hero!" the next.
  • edited November 2012
    dukeleto wrote: »
    Maybe he just couldn't take anymore... I mean, Ben.
    He mistreated him for all that time, and so maybe Kenny couldn't stand the idea of killing him and just then going on...
    He ventured even being a big disappointment to Lee. But I think in the end he came to a conclusion like "Nah, he is already dead inany case" . Maybe he just got tired. Or thought Lee won't be there soon... Who knows?
    He completely gave up, in my opinion.

    He gave up a long time before this moment, if we're being honest. If you don't understand why he was the way he was, you don't understand simple human emotion; his wife killed herself, his only friend had to kill his son because he couldn't do it himself (in my playthrough, at least). After their deaths, he pursued the dream resolution of a magical boat that would see them all safely into paradise with an obsession bordering on delusion. Truth be told, Kenny died with his son and his wife in the Georgian countryside.

    Also I am really shocked and impressed that a video game is so deep and complex and rich that I can actually say things like that about one of the characters. God I love TTG.
  • edited November 2012
    It's funny seeing everyone saying "Kenny's a bastard!" one minute and then "Kenny's such a hero!" the next.

    I don't think anyone up there is saying, "He is such a hero." :)
    People who doesn't like Kenny -like me- is about a confession that Kenny wouldn't be that bad. Some admiration for him and that's all.
    Please understand this now. I EVEN didn't throw that statue at him, and I managed him to understand his fault on Ben with my choices.
    It was not Kenny, who was all good by himself. But it was LeeMe.
    John W. wrote: »

    Also I am really shocked and impressed that a video game is so deep and complex and rich that I can actually say things like that about one of the characters. God I love TTG.

    Same here.
  • edited November 2012
    I can appreciate the comments you guys are posting. I've had a strong dislike for Kenny ever since the meat locker incident. Then the strong dislike grew to hatred after the first or second time he left me to die...I don't recall. I didn't have Ben in e5. I take care of traitors right away.

    I think Kenny finally realized what a jackass he's been and in a fit of self-loathing jumped through the hole in the roof to give Christa a boost out. It was nice that he saved Christa from a predicament that he caused but it was too little too late.

    I resent Kenny for so many things even more so when he could have just taken a few supplies, loaded up his truck with his family and been on his merry shortly after we met Mark. Maybe our group still would not have survived but at least we would have faced these challenges as a team not a divided clusterfuck.

    I gained no repect for Kenny when he died. Rather, I thought, it's about fucking time.
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