Child Kills Grandmother After Playing Grand Theft Auto

edited September 2013 in General Chat
http://www.businessinsider.com/boy-shoots-grandmother-louisiana-2013-8?op=1

Very sad.

Games with extremely realistic, sadistic depictions of violence aren't suitable for children. Heck, I am uncomfortable with this stuff. Don't enjoy it one bit. Whether the games allow players to take part in ultra realistic thrill shootings, stabbings or other torture, etc. I think we need to recognize that this material CAN be bad for young players.

What do you all think?
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  • edited August 2013
    Yeah, it was totally the game's fault. Not bad parenting, not irresponsible gun ownership, it was totally because he played a game.
  • edited August 2013
    I played Mario and that caused me to jump on my pet turtles. Poor Sheldon :(
  • edited August 2013
    Yeah, it was totally the game's fault. Not bad parenting, not irresponsible gun ownership, it was totally because he played a game.

    Yes, those things aren't good either, but it's the games fault either way.
  • edited August 2013
    Ribs wrote: »
    Yes, those things aren't good either, but it's the games fault either way.

    I'd thought its pretty easy for parents to stop an 8 year old playing a game that's not age rated for them if they wanted to.
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited August 2013
    Game is rated M, yet safely in the hands of a child less than half the necessary age.

    But, what the heck, guns are obviously rated E. Noooooo problem there.

    Although police associated the killing with the video game, questions remain over the .38 caliber handgun used, which belonged to Smothers.

    I'm not reading this article as if it's just from another country. This is a different world entirely. Guns don't kill people. Video games kill people.
  • edited August 2013
    If you say guns people kill people one more time, I will shoot you and you will coincidentally die.
  • edited August 2013
    Video games had nothing to do with it...
    No child should have access to a loaded gun full stop and them blaming it on a Videogame instead of lack of proper supervision is insulting...
  • edited August 2013
    Who the fuck even has a loaded gun, not on safety, in posession? Fuck, if you keep a gun to ward of burglars, you take it off safety at that point, not at all times. There's a fucking reason there's safety on these things.

    People who are so irresponsible with guns should never have guns in the first place.
  • edited August 2013
    Blaming the access to the gun would be blaming people. We can't do that. So videogames!
  • edited August 2013
    People really should remember though that guns don't kill people, bullets do.
  • edited August 2013
    Wow. Yet another instance of how GTA ruins real lives.

    It's times like these when I wish ESRB ratings would actually account for something and be used.
  • edited August 2013
    Zeruis wrote: »
    Wow. Yet another instance of how GTA ruins real lives.

    It's times like these when I wish ESRB ratings would actually account for something and be used.

    Then buy a Xbox One with Kinect now. It will scan you and block access to violent videogames if you are too young, your blood pressure is to high or if you have thoughts about killing your family.
    Xbox One. Now reading your thoughts.
  • edited August 2013
    I think it's the fact that they were living in a town named Slaughter. I mean, really.
  • edited August 2013
    I think it's the fact that they were living in a town named Slaughter. I mean, really.

    It was named after the patron saint Sgt Slaughter.
  • edited August 2013
    The comments under the article are great.
    Exactly. I remember when every time as a young scoundrel after playing Worms Armageddon on my sweet Pentium III, I was swinging around from ninja ropes while throwing exploding sheep and terrorizing the unaware populace.

    All the cool kids did it back then though.
  • edited August 2013
    While the whole thing is a tragedy thing that happened, there are so many factors that go into this that it's hard to react in anything other than a 'eh'.

    - The kid had access to a gun. Seriously, America? Is this a thing you're OK with, allowing kids to have access to weapons? C'mon, you're smarter than this.

    - The 8-year old kid was playing GTAIV, an M rated game. Need I say more?

    - "'Grand Theft Auto IV,' a realistic game that [...]awards points to players for killing people". WRONG. Grand Theft Auto hasn't had a points system since it made the leap to 3D - it's had money instead. Get your facts straight, dammit.
  • edited August 2013
    While the whole thing is a tragedy thing that happened, there are so many factors that go into this that it's hard to react in anything other than a 'eh'.

    - The kid had access to a gun. Seriously, America? Is this a thing you're OK with, allowing kids to have access to weapons? C'mon, you're smarter than this.

    - The 8-year old kid was playing GTAIV, an M rated game. Need I say more?

    - "'Grand Theft Auto IV,' a realistic game that [...]awards points to players for killing people". WRONG. Grand Theft Auto hasn't had a points system since it made the leap to 3D - it's had money instead. Get your facts straight, dammit.

    NO WE'RE NOT. NO WE FUCKlNG AREN'T. Go sit in the corner. You have no clue how stupid and evil we've gotten.
  • edited August 2013
    NO WE'RE NOT. NO WE FUCKlNG AREN'T. Go sit in the corner. You have no clue how stupid and evil we've gotten.
    I'm... sorry for giving you so much credit?

    *Goes and sits in the corner, wearing a Dunce's hat*
  • edited August 2013
    der_ketzer wrote: »
    The comments under the article are great.

    God dammit, now I feel like playing Worms Armageddon again.
  • edited August 2013
    Ribs wrote: »
    Yes, those things aren't good either, but it's the games fault either way.

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  • edited August 2013
    I played Metal Gear Solid as a kid now I hide in boxes and have diarrhea.
  • edited August 2013
    Playing Leisure Suit Larry gave me herpes.
  • VainamoinenVainamoinen Moderator
    edited August 2013
    coolsome wrote: »
    I played Metal Gear Solid as a kid now I hide in boxes and have diarrhea.

    That's what you get from too much MGS.
  • edited August 2013
    GTA poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and delivered a plague upon our houses!
  • edited August 2013
    GaryCXJk wrote: »
    God dammit, now I feel like playing Worms Armageddon again.

    Available on Steam including fixes to make it run on modern hardware.
    coolsome wrote: »
    I played Metal Gear Solid as a kid now I hide in boxes and have diarrhea.
    Now I'm afraid to play Snake Eater 3D. Thanks Coolsome.
    coolsome wrote: »
    GTA poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and delivered a plague upon our houses!

    I fucking KNEW it. How can stay calm with all this evidence. Burn all the copies of this game. Burn them all! especially the digital copies!
  • edited August 2013
    That article had so much bullshit I got an air freshener for my computer afterwards.
  • edited August 2013
    I played Kirby a lot, and now I suck.
    der_ketzer wrote: »
    Available on Steam including fixes to make it run on modern hardware.

    Already had it, got it for free for pre-ordering Worms Revolution.
  • edited August 2013
    I agree with what has been said here, no child should have easy access to weapons, and parents should only buy these types of video games if their child is responsible enough to not replicate the actions in the game in real life.

    I realize I am also under 17 but the only reason I got to play The Last of Us and Walking Dead is because my parents thought I was responsible enough for them, but seriously? An 8 year old plays Grand Theft Auto? That's crazy.

    The worst thing about this is, now people are going to use this article against videogames.
  • edited August 2013
    I played Mortal Kombat 1 and 2 on Snes at like 5 and I turned out fine.
  • edited August 2013
    coolsome wrote: »
    I played Mortal Kombat 1 and 2 on Snes at like 5 and I turned out fine.
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  • edited August 2013
    coolsome wrote: »
    I played Mortal Kombat 1 and 2 on Snes at like 5 and I turned out fine.

    I don't know what you definition of fine is.... but it is wrong.

    :D
  • edited August 2013
    Everyone knows books are the cause of this violence. Bet he read one just before the killing!
  • edited August 2013
    The terrorists who bombed the World Trade Center all coincidentally played Airplane Simulator: Kill Whitey Edition beforehand.
  • edited August 2013
    The terrorists who bombed the World Trade Center all coincidentally played Airplane Simulator: Kill Whitey Edition beforehand.

    Hey they banned every Flight Simulator game with the WTC in it here after 9/11.
    Or at least they removed them from stores.
  • JenniferJennifer Moderator
    edited August 2013
    When I was working at Wal-Mart I had a mother with a young son yell at me because I told her that Grand Theft Auto III wasn't suitable for her child. "Just sell me the game and mind your own business."

    There's a reason ratings exist, but unfortunately parents choose to ignore them. It is sad that it happened, but this is definitely a case of bad parenting for letting him play a game that's meant for people more than twice his age and for keeping a gun loaded when not in use.

    I just wish the media wasn't so quick to jump on the blame game for sensational headlines. What they should be doing is spreading the word about the ESRB and what the ratings mean, and why it's important for parents to use them as guidelines. Not pointing at the game's mere existence as the reason that this shooting happened.
  • edited August 2013
    Parents fault for letting him buy the game in the first place. The parents should be the ones going to jail. It's not the kids fault from GTA. Grand theft auto is quite fun, but in real life situations like this?? Well For one it is the parents fault for the kid playing a game that is rated Mature 17+ game so blame the parents not the games.
  • edited August 2013
    All these comments about age ratings and how the kid shouldn't have had access to the game...

    ...we DO realize that a human being who happens to be under 17 years of age playing a game rated "M" by the ESRB does not, in fact, magically transform them into a pscyhopath, right?

    Because it doesn't.

    Kids can watch R-rated films, kids can play M-rated games, kids can listen to Explicit albums, and they can come out completely sane and normal, not being warped by some magical force that breaks the minds of those under some arbitrary age gate.
    GaryCXJk wrote: »
    People really should remember though that guns don't kill people, bullets do.
    Bullets don't kill people, internal bleeding and heart failure does.
  • edited August 2013
    Internal bleeding and heart failure doesn't kill people, God kills people.

    We should sue the church.
  • JenniferJennifer Moderator
    edited August 2013
    Kids can watch R-rated films, kids can play M-rated games, kids can listen to Explicit albums, and they can come out completely sane and normal, not being warped by some magical force that breaks the minds of those under some arbitrary age gate.
    Some kids can. But the ratings are there for a reason.

    The brain is still developing up until you are 25 (and especially up to 17, which is why these kind of age ratings are in place), so some kids just don't have the thought process required to separate violent entertainment from reality.

    These kind of ratings should be used as a guideline for kids who get mad easily, those with behavioral problems, or those who have a hard time differentiating reality from fantasy.

    Parents need to know their kids so they can know if their kids are at risk for behavior like this. And if they are at risk for behavior like this, they shouldn't have access to violent entertainment.
  • edited August 2013

    Bullets don't kill people, internal bleeding and heart failure does.

    Ozzie Mandrill kills people.
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