The mods should get paid for putting up with this stuff.
Yes! Yes!
which happens to be a "appreciation thread" outlined in the guidelines lol
I really wanted that appreciation thread bit in there - having witnessed two violent appreciation thread outbreaks for various franchises in here - and am still happy that it made the cut. Guidelines are not the bill of rights though. We're going by the spirit of these rules, not the letter. An "appreciation thread" is a topic mainly driven by mere expressions of sympathy towards one character or another. That's what we thought makes bad discussion material. That doesn't mean we're going to close every thread that veers in that direction or even bears the name. It's just that we've had times in which two dozen appreciation threads ruled the first page of certain subforums, and three years ago, the situation was so bad that Jake himself snarkily commented on how shitty things had become.
Of course people can, must and will show their appreciation for certain characters. On this forum however, maybe we also want a tad more from members as well. And that's about it concerning the appreciation thread rule.
Speaking about threads getting derailed. Isn't that what all three of you are doing? having a fight about a thread which has completely nothing to do with suggestions for the forums?
Agreed; and the more aggressive forms of thread derailing (see, errr, forum guidelines) will have to be reprimanded a bit more in the future. There is one central form of "protest" against the validity of a thread that members should employ: DON'T POST IN THAT THREAD.
How come the users who derailed the thread are not banned yet?
Because if the member in question "just" posts disruptive gifs, immediately getting out the ban hammer would seem to be exaggerated action, that's why. In ye olde times, we had an infraction system just for these situations... in here, we have the ban hammer. The going gets tough right now, it's true, but that doesn't mean that our natural disposition towards leniency shouldn't apply any more.
That means YOU, Crixus. You're not "good friends" with us, and at this rate you never will be.
He meant the mods of 'that other' forum. I deleted that entire conversation though, because it was completely disruptive and senseless here.
The mods should get paid for putting up with this stuff.
Citrix: Threats, seriously? I don't follow the TWD forums, but in my opinion here … morein general talk you come off as worse than Shaundi.
EDIT: Cleaned up language. It just annoys me to no end what's become of this place. Maybe we need a break TTG foru-COMMUNITY.
Can you not read man I was on about the other forums........... Jesus! Don't worry I ain't looking to be your friend pal. Also nice to see you're censoring the competition, Like I said Nazi state
OK, I think we've had enough of the insults and GIFs in this place. Knock it off or start facing the consequences.
That means YOU, Crixus. … moreYou're not "good friends" with us, and at this rate you never will be.
And while we don't get paid, this place isn't without its (rare) perks.
(Left over from the E3 where TWD was announced and not just a random "here mods, have something awesome that no-one else can have", before you ask)
Other forum? Oh. Oops. In that case, I retract my statement due to misunderstanding the context. Apologies.
That doesn't mean you get to call us Nazis though. You're not gonna win ANY friends if you keep saying stuff like that.
The reason that line of discussion was removed was, as Vain said, because it was very disruptive. It was also pretty off-topic, so if we can try and steer this back to actual "Suggestions on how to improve the forums" rather than insults, that'd be appreciated.
I'm calling the strictness on this forum akin to that in a totaliterian state such as a nazi state, hardly implying that you personally hold nazi views and yes ok fair enough.
Other forum? Oh. Oops. In that case, I retract my statement due to misunderstanding the context. Apologies.
That doesn't mean you get to ca… morell us Nazis though. You're not gonna win ANY friends if you keep saying stuff like that.
The reason that line of discussion was removed was, as Vain said, because it was very disruptive. It was also pretty off-topic, so if we can try and steer this back to actual "Suggestions on how to improve the forums" rather than insults, that'd be appreciated.
The problem is, with the tools we have at the moment we either come across as too harsh or too soft, and we've all seen what happens when we're too soft - complete chaos in TWD section. If we come across as being a bit of a "Nazi state" (and lord do I hate that phrase), then it's only because we're trying to emulate an old-time sheriff, bringing law to the lawless. Once we've done that and can trust people to behave better, we'll ease off.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to swap my avatar's hat for a Stetson.
Not for me to tell moderators how to do their job, but if you acquiesce or placate passive-aggressive attention-seekers or let them influence your decisions you'll never hear the end of it. They will constantly generate awful, tedious, menial work for you to do and view you as their personal Secret Police to disappear posters they don't like.
Your only recourse is get rid of them or let the community shame them into oblivion.
Also, what happened to a certain other poster mods (I'm not naming since apparently you don't like that) but this person was banned once. and then brags that "Oh I talked to support and they unbanned me" and now considers mods to be their own police. Even made a thread calling out the mods and nothing.....
Not for me to tell moderators how to do their job, but if you acquiesce or placate passive-aggressive attention-seekers or let them influence … moreyour decisions you'll never hear the end of it. They will constantly generate awful, tedious, menial work for you to do and view you as their personal Secret Police to disappear posters they don't like.
Your only recourse is get rid of them or let the community shame them into oblivion.
They will constantly generate awful, tedious, menial work for you to do and view you as their personal Secret Police to disappear posters they don't like.
Yeah, some people have tried that. They're not around any more. Remember that mods always have to assess the situation they're called onto. If the reporting party turns out to be the major asshole, mods act accordingly.
Also, what happened to a certain other poster mods (I'm not naming since apparently you don't like that) but this person was banned once. and … morethen brags that "Oh I talked to support and they unbanned me" and now considers mods to be their own police. Even made a thread calling out the mods and nothing.....
@Vainamoinen yeah, this person was bragging about it. They said they contacted support and was posting under the same name. But then I guess they did eventually get banned because they just used a different account.
They will constantly generate awful, tedious, menial work for you to do and view you as their personal Secret Police to disappear posters they… more don't like.
Yeah, some people have tried that. They're not around any more. Remember that mods always have to assess the situation they're called onto. If the reporting party turns out to be the major asshole, mods act accordingly.
Surprises aplenty.
"Oh I talked to support and they unbanned me"
Did that ever happen?!
Can whoever closed Robert Morgan's thread please reopen it? It was a decent thread for a while and it seems a shame that a few argumentative assholes (guilty...) caused it to be closed. Maybe just delete all the arguing and, if necessary, just sink the thread or something? I promise I'll stop posting there!
The topic tried hard to shoehorn a religious controversy into a game with hardly any religious references (and so was off topic to begin with), we'd have to delete 80% and 100+ replies and the only remaining on topic comments consist of exactly one letter. Just as the 'race of Clementine' threads, these topics will always go down in irreversible flames and no healthy discussion will ever come from them. The worst of the posters are of course those who continuously comment on where the thread is going to end up.
§1.3 If you think a certain topic is not worth discussing, don't try to destroy the ongoing discussion. Just refrain from posting in that thread.
I honestly wish TTG would move Telltale Talk/General Chat back to the front of the forum. Exactly why does TWD, Fable and Tales from the Borderlands which is a recently announced game need to be taking up most of the page?
I'm speaking as a decently longtime community member. Please give us polls back.. This is serious. We have been told by staff before that polls would return eventually, but it's been MONTHS. They were an extremely fun and effective way to engage the community.
I want this to be noticed, sorry about the bold. I don't think anybody here would really object to polls returning before episode 2 of either series. Please pay your website designers for a day to add a polling function, it's ridiculous we even have to ask for it given how popular it used to be.
One thing that I don't think has been mentioned that's a bit annoying with the way the new foru-COMMUNITY works is that if you click the link to go to the first unread post in a thread, you an URL post fixed with "/new". If you then close the tab or browser and reopen it later, you still have the same URL, but instead on being on the page you were last, you're back on the first page of the thread.
A other thing is that if you read the posts in a new thread the thread link stops being marked in bold so that it's easy to tell which threads you've read. This doesn't happen with older threads which you've previous visited though, which is pretty annoying.
I thought PR people were supposed be more..friendly..PR. It seems only time I see puzzlebox, is her on twitter responding a thousand times a day to people. I actually say a guy "director of PR" in tell tale respond back to an award they won. "Director of PR" sounds like a important title. Expect they don't do anything
The only PR they care about is that with gaming magazines. Talking over their fans to talk about the game. I thought PR were supposed calm people down and reassure. Saying 'We're working hard" is exact message we got 2 months ago. Nothing has changed. Seriously hire a real team, if you want be taken seriously.
...This is a user created thread though. I'd be surprised if anyone higher up than us community mods read it. I could be wrong since I only came to this thread after becoming a Mod in December.
...This is a user created thread though. I'd be surprised if anyone higher up than us community mods read it. I could be wrong since I only came to this thread after becoming a Mod in December.
So this is something that should be pretty quick and easy to fix.
For the private discussion thing, whenever you're trying to PM a person with a space in their name, the default Recipient line only uses the part of the name before the space. So if I go to send, say, Darth Marsden a message from his profile, the Recipient line always reads "Darth" instead of "Darth Marsden."
To make sure that the message goes through to "Darth Marsden" and not just "Darth," I have to retype the name in the Recipient line. It's only a mild annoyance once I realized it but newer members may not be aware that this is the reason why their PMs to mods aren't getting through.
So this is something that should be pretty quick and easy to fix.
For the private discussion thing, whenever you're trying to PM a person w… moreith a space in their name, the default Recipient line only uses the part of the name before the space. So if I go to send, say, Darth Marsden a message from his profile, the Recipient line always reads "Darth" instead of "Darth Marsden."
To make sure that the message goes through to "Darth Marsden" and not just "Darth," I have to retype the name in the Recipient line. It's only a mild annoyance once I realized it but newer members may not be aware that this is the reason why their PMs to mods aren't getting through.
I feel like these issues are never going to be fixed, the website staff (not including the mods obviously) disappeared, and like the polls will probably never return. The activity feed is a genuine clusterfuck, I mean who doesn't love hovering over each individual icon to read comments one by one in no clear order?!
You would think Telltale would care enough about us to fix these kind of issues. Did website development suddenly become rocket science?! They're directing people to this site at the end of their games now! You had this site in beta for months! Everything should work now! The old forum worked far better than this, it makes me sick. You guys forced this website change on us, so at least have the courtesy to follow through and pay your web devs enough to fix these issues. I know you guys are busy making games, but a lot of people use this site! It's embarrassing how little you seem to care! No offense, but Kevin obviously doesn't care about this one bit, he saw what happened to this place and he never ever wanted to come back.
That probably depends on what you mean by "near." Even Kevin expressed that it was something he wanted to have return to the site, but given how long it took them to come up with this solution to deal with the "new comment" business, well...
Okaay...so there's been a new 'changing pages' bar as well as a "Mark comments as read" button. I don't think I ever use that...
Oh the oth… moreer hand, since there's been new implements to the site, can we expect polls to return sometime in the near future?
The marking of comments read once you've read them is actually a pretty big deal. It was one of the reasons why a lot of users left, because it was hard to tell what you had already read. (Not the only reason they left, alas.)
It's good to see they are implementing some changes, The "mark comments as read" could be useful. Hopefully soon they will add support for different time zones to be displayed.
Actually, it looks like there are still some problems with that comment marking button. On the threads where I pressed it, it appears that even the new unread posts a day later are now no longer considered new. Halfway. That is, the new posts still have their new post border, but there's no indication that the thread has new posts, and no button to go to the next new post. I guess we'll see if this straightens itself out.
There should be a way to ignore specific users, just click a button and you don't see anything they post anymore. It would really help with people who aren't necessarily breaking any rules, but are just being annoying or stupid.
There should be a way to ignore specific users, just click a button and you don't see anything they post anymore. It would really help with people who aren't necessarily breaking any rules, but are just being annoying or stupid.
There should be a way to ignore specific users, just click a button and you don't see anything they post anymore. It would really help with people who aren't necessarily breaking any rules, but are just being annoying or stupid.
Comments
Yes! Yes!
I really wanted that appreciation thread bit in there - having witnessed two violent appreciation thread outbreaks for various franchises in here - and am still happy that it made the cut. Guidelines are not the bill of rights though. We're going by the spirit of these rules, not the letter. An "appreciation thread" is a topic mainly driven by mere expressions of sympathy towards one character or another. That's what we thought makes bad discussion material. That doesn't mean we're going to close every thread that veers in that direction or even bears the name. It's just that we've had times in which two dozen appreciation threads ruled the first page of certain subforums, and three years ago, the situation was so bad that Jake himself snarkily commented on how shitty things had become.
Of course people can, must and will show their appreciation for certain characters. On this forum however, maybe we also want a tad more from members as well. And that's about it concerning the appreciation thread rule.
Agreed; and the more aggressive forms of thread derailing (see, errr, forum guidelines) will have to be reprimanded a bit more in the future. There is one central form of "protest" against the validity of a thread that members should employ: DON'T POST IN THAT THREAD.
Because if the member in question "just" posts disruptive gifs, immediately getting out the ban hammer would seem to be exaggerated action, that's why. In ye olde times, we had an infraction system just for these situations... in here, we have the ban hammer. The going gets tough right now, it's true, but that doesn't mean that our natural disposition towards leniency shouldn't apply any more.
He meant the mods of 'that other' forum. I deleted that entire conversation though, because it was completely disruptive and senseless here.
Can you not read man I was on about the other forums........... Jesus! Don't worry I ain't looking to be your friend pal. Also nice to see you're censoring the competition, Like I said Nazi state
Other forum? Oh. Oops. In that case, I retract my statement due to misunderstanding the context. Apologies.
That doesn't mean you get to call us Nazis though. You're not gonna win ANY friends if you keep saying stuff like that.
The reason that line of discussion was removed was, as Vain said, because it was very disruptive. It was also pretty off-topic, so if we can try and steer this back to actual "Suggestions on how to improve the forums" rather than insults, that'd be appreciated.
I'm calling the strictness on this forum akin to that in a totaliterian state such as a nazi state, hardly implying that you personally hold nazi views and yes ok fair enough.
The problem is, with the tools we have at the moment we either come across as too harsh or too soft, and we've all seen what happens when we're too soft - complete chaos in TWD section. If we come across as being a bit of a "Nazi state" (and lord do I hate that phrase), then it's only because we're trying to emulate an old-time sheriff, bringing law to the lawless. Once we've done that and can trust people to behave better, we'll ease off.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to swap my avatar's hat for a Stetson.
Calling out single members on this forum for whatever: BAD FORM.
The 'bullying talk' on this thread will stop immediately.
Not for me to tell moderators how to do their job, but if you acquiesce or placate passive-aggressive attention-seekers or let them influence your decisions you'll never hear the end of it. They will constantly generate awful, tedious, menial work for you to do and view you as their personal Secret Police to disappear posters they don't like.
Your only recourse is get rid of them or let the community shame them into oblivion.
Also, what happened to a certain other poster mods (I'm not naming since apparently you don't like that) but this person was banned once. and then brags that "Oh I talked to support and they unbanned me" and now considers mods to be their own police. Even made a thread calling out the mods and nothing.....
Yeah, some people have tried that. They're not around any more. Remember that mods always have to assess the situation they're called onto. If the reporting party turns out to be the major asshole, mods act accordingly.
Surprises aplenty.
Did that ever happen?!
@Vainamoinen yeah, this person was bragging about it. They said they contacted support and was posting under the same name. But then I guess they did eventually get banned because they just used a different account.
I have ENOUGH of this thread being used for voicing petty feuds.
I'll clean it up once more, but PLEASE take your verbal trash out of this forum.
Can whoever closed Robert Morgan's thread please reopen it? It was a decent thread for a while and it seems a shame that a few argumentative assholes (guilty...) caused it to be closed. Maybe just delete all the arguing and, if necessary, just sink the thread or something? I promise I'll stop posting there!
Ah, thanks, we're good.
The topic tried hard to shoehorn a religious controversy into a game with hardly any religious references (and so was off topic to begin with), we'd have to delete 80% and 100+ replies and the only remaining on topic comments consist of exactly one letter. Just as the 'race of Clementine' threads, these topics will always go down in irreversible flames and no healthy discussion will ever come from them. The worst of the posters are of course those who continuously comment on where the thread is going to end up.
I honestly wish TTG would move Telltale Talk/General Chat back to the front of the forum. Exactly why does TWD, Fable and Tales from the Borderlands which is a recently announced game need to be taking up most of the page?
I'm speaking as a decently longtime community member. Please give us polls back.. This is serious. We have been told by staff before that polls would return eventually, but it's been MONTHS. They were an extremely fun and effective way to engage the community.
I want this to be noticed, sorry about the bold. I don't think anybody here would really object to polls returning before episode 2 of either series. Please pay your website designers for a day to add a polling function, it's ridiculous we even have to ask for it given how popular it used to be.
Seriously mods, do you just let members call you out? Like this post right here
Seriously? I won't name the user, but this is somebody who should have already been banned. I will direct you to that post however
http://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/56311/the-kenny-thread-inevitable-spoilers-within/p6
One thing that I don't think has been mentioned that's a bit annoying with the way the new foru-COMMUNITY works is that if you click the link to go to the first unread post in a thread, you an URL post fixed with "/new". If you then close the tab or browser and reopen it later, you still have the same URL, but instead on being on the page you were last, you're back on the first page of the thread.
A other thing is that if you read the posts in a new thread the thread link stops being marked in bold so that it's easy to tell which threads you've read. This doesn't happen with older threads which you've previous visited though, which is pretty annoying.
I thought PR people were supposed be more..friendly..PR. It seems only time I see puzzlebox, is her on twitter responding a thousand times a day to people. I actually say a guy "director of PR" in tell tale respond back to an award they won. "Director of PR" sounds like a important title. Expect they don't do anything
The only PR they care about is that with gaming magazines. Talking over their fans to talk about the game. I thought PR were supposed calm people down and reassure. Saying 'We're working hard" is exact message we got 2 months ago. Nothing has changed. Seriously hire a real team, if you want be taken seriously.
Seems tell tale is not ready for big time.
...That doesn't have much to do with forum improvement, but... OK?
...This is a user created thread though. I'd be surprised if anyone higher up than us community mods read it. I could be wrong since I only came to this thread after becoming a Mod in December.
All I'm saying is. They will never read it. Because Tell Tale has lost it's soul.
So this is something that should be pretty quick and easy to fix.
For the private discussion thing, whenever you're trying to PM a person with a space in their name, the default Recipient line only uses the part of the name before the space. So if I go to send, say, Darth Marsden a message from his profile, the Recipient line always reads "Darth" instead of "Darth Marsden."
To make sure that the message goes through to "Darth Marsden" and not just "Darth," I have to retype the name in the Recipient line. It's only a mild annoyance once I realized it but newer members may not be aware that this is the reason why their PMs to mods aren't getting through.
Yeah, that is kind of weird. For now, I suggest that users just PM a mod individually from going to any Mod's profile and click "Private Discussion."
I hope that gets fixed soon. I could be wrong, but I think a part of that is due to this version of the forum software using Markdown.
Honest opinion time:.....
I feel like these issues are never going to be fixed, the website staff (not including the mods obviously) disappeared, and like the polls will probably never return. The activity feed is a genuine clusterfuck, I mean who doesn't love hovering over each individual icon to read comments one by one in no clear order?!
You would think Telltale would care enough about us to fix these kind of issues. Did website development suddenly become rocket science?! They're directing people to this site at the end of their games now! You had this site in beta for months! Everything should work now! The old forum worked far better than this, it makes me sick. You guys forced this website change on us, so at least have the courtesy to follow through and pay your web devs enough to fix these issues. I know you guys are busy making games, but a lot of people use this site! It's embarrassing how little you seem to care! No offense, but Kevin obviously doesn't care about this one bit, he saw what happened to this place and he never ever wanted to come back.
Okaay...so there's been a new 'changing pages' bar as well as a "Mark comments as read" button. I don't think I ever use that...
Oh the other hand, since there's been new implements to the site, can we expect polls to return sometime in the near future?
That probably depends on what you mean by "near." Even Kevin expressed that it was something he wanted to have return to the site, but given how long it took them to come up with this solution to deal with the "new comment" business, well...
The marking of comments read once you've read them is actually a pretty big deal. It was one of the reasons why a lot of users left, because it was hard to tell what you had already read. (Not the only reason they left, alas.)
It's good to see they are implementing some changes, The "mark comments as read" could be useful. Hopefully soon they will add support for different time zones to be displayed.
Actually, it looks like there are still some problems with that comment marking button. On the threads where I pressed it, it appears that even the new unread posts a day later are now no longer considered new. Halfway. That is, the new posts still have their new post border, but there's no indication that the thread has new posts, and no button to go to the next new post. I guess we'll see if this straightens itself out.
Just as a generic Public Service Announcement, the glitch causing nested forum posts to be hidden has been fixed.
No posts affected by the glitch were deleted, they were only hidden from view.
I have a suggestion. We need more avatars! I want a Bromid avatar for myself
There should be a way to ignore specific users, just click a button and you don't see anything they post anymore. It would really help with people who aren't necessarily breaking any rules, but are just being annoying or stupid.
Like a block/black list.
Can the new comments be on top or be on the first page like the commenting system in Youtube?
IP BANS. NOW. LIKE, RIGHT NOW.
We've been begging for those for a good while.
I personally think they won't change anything.
EDIT: Actually, forget I said anything. Don't want to unintentionally give people a challenge.
My suggestion is to put the forum design back to how it was before they ruined it last year.
Thanks for popping back solely to say that, MtnPeak.
(But yeah, we all want that)